MotorCity Mayhem

[QUOTE=Perusing;5820657]Apparently you are an expert on gas prices. I'm wondering how that happened since what you have posted indicates you know little if anything about the matter. Especially in respect to the difference between oil production (that's the drilling for oil part) and the oil refinery part (that's the process that turns the crude oil into gasoline). Then, of course, there are the distribution costs but we'll save that for another day.

I would expect an expert to know, for example, not all oil is the same, there is heavy crude (sour) through ultra-light crude grades (sweet). US oil refineries for the most part are set up to refine the heavy (sour) type crude. This is the type that comes mostly from Russia, Venezuela, Western Canada, Saudia Arabia and other parts of the middle east. Much of the oil produced in the US is too light to refine in US refineries and is therefore exported to refineries that are mostly in Europe.

So the US can produce a trillion barrels a day of light oil and your still going to have to ship it somewhere else to turn it into gasoline. And that oil is still going to be priced based upon the global commodity markets.

Why is this, well, it ain't rocket science, refinery profits! They make more dollars refining the heavy imported oil and they don't give a damn if you like it or not. But they do love gas lighting you!

So if you want to place blame for gas prices at least direct your complaints to the correct department.

US oil production increased significantly during the Obama administration and that trend continued during the Trump presidency, he didn't start it. Gas prices in 2015 were about 2. 45 per gallon down from the high of 3. 64 earlier in his presidency.

Drinking the FOX flavored Koolaid won't make you an expert on anything. Only keeps you as ignorant as those who drink the MSNBC and CNN flavors. And that's where both "sides" of that game want you, congratulations.

Educate yourself my friend, whoever you are listening too isn't helping you much.[/QUOTE]And don't forget those who speculate on oil futures. That is what is currently driving up the prices. Some of these folks are like that dog in up. "squirrell!" except they say HUNTER! SMH.

The only thing that matters is fiscal policy. The republicans are terrible and the democrats are slightly worse. I vote democrat and hope it all collapses a few years sooner, rather than letting it drag out for a few more years.

[QUOTE=HobbyAddict08;5820871]You're the one who claims to be an expert. Not me. Today there is a deficit of 1. 5 million barrels a day coming out of the ground in the USA Compared to pre pandemic. 1. 5 million barrels A DAY less under your boy biden. Don't tell me that doesn't effect the price of gasoline and don't tell me he has nothing to do with it. I don't have cable and don't watch fox or mslsd. You happy with you're biden vote? I'm not your fucking friend either because I can't stand braindead liberals like you.[/QUOTE]It's been my experience that those who lash out with insult and generalizations have little of substance to bring to the table yet still wish to be heard. I'm sensing you're one of them.

So, let's get a few things out of the way. I haven't voted for a Democrat since Jimmy Carter and have never voted for a republican. Biden is a psychopathic neo-con imperialist. In general he's no better than Trump and in some ways he is worse. Certainly neither give a damn about the working class and I'm not interested in supporting anyone who doesn't put them first.

Now back to oil and gas. US oil production dropped because demand dropped due to the Covid-19 pandemic. US Oil production had fallen 3 million barrels per day by May of 2020. At that time, Trump was president, not Biden. Guess superman couldn't find his cape.

Also during this time some wells were tapped and closed down. Oil industry workers were lost, new drilling wasn't pursued and the permits sat on, the transportation and shipping industries were thrown into turmoil. None of this has fully recovered and some is still in disarray.

Oil companies could have keep their workers on and their wells pumping at reduced outputs and even opened new wells until things turned around except for one thing, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PROFITABLE! And the protection of those profits are far more important than any working man or women ever will be to those companies. And if you think that's something that changes when it's a Dem or Rep in charge, you're just foolish.

But slowly US demand rose and is returning to prepandemic levels. US oil production has also increased 2 million barrels per day which is still 1. 4 million short of prepandemic times. And it has nothing to do with Biden restricting drilling or drilling regulations or any of that right-wing talking points garbage. It can be argued that the way Covid was handled is making it more difficult to return to prepandemic conditions. But that mishandling falls as much on the oil industry itself as the government. I would think that everyone by now understands it is large corporate interests (Oil Industry meets that definition) running the government more so than the other way around.

[QUOTE=Mortar31;5816524]If Putin was going to do it in 2014 why did he wait until Biden came to office? He knew Trump wouldn't put up with it a would've rallied NATO, something Joe won't do. Check your facts. He stopped offshore drilling leases and stopped fraking and drilling on federal land. That's all fact. You and people like you have elected this. Hope you got what you wanted. What about the border? Is all of that a lie too? Ask CBP and the Americans in border towns. In some cities there were 50 people per day crossing illegally now there are thousands from a dozen different countries. Even the democrats in D. C. Are admitting this. We went from energy independence and exporting more than we imported to being totally dependent on foreign oil. Now Bidens socialist regime is going to Iran, the #1 terrorists supported for oil but only if we totally agree to relax all nuclear development sanctions against them. They're free to develop and expand their capabilities. That put Israel and all of us in danger. Venezuela too. We will be buying from a cruel dictator that abuses his people human rights. Doesn't that hurt your ideas on equality and fair treatment that concern the gender confused left holds dear? The difference between us is that I spent 30 years in the military and the government. I've seen the real world and know the facts. I've seen the evil and the speed that a bad leader can put forward to hurt it own. Save your energy. You're under informed and over opinionated.[/QUOTE]First I'd like to say I had to read your post a second time so I could stand up and salute the text while I read it, VERY well said sir! I would also like to thank you for serving you're country for 30 years.

[QUOTE]If Putin was going to do it in 2014 why did he wait until Biden came to office?[/QUOTE]Putin and leaders like him laugh and Biden. No one fears or respects him like they did Trump. Mark my words (and I hope I'm wrong), the shit will hit the fan in the next 3 years while Joe's still in office. Biden is weak physically and mentally (and he's just getting weaker), he has also made this country weak by firing the people that protect it for not getting vaccinated (Trump would not have done that). Putin is going to keep pushing the envelope and Biden isn't going to do anything but place BS sanctions on him.

[QUOTE]You and people like you have elected this. Hope you got what you wanted.[/QUOTE]"Anyone but Trump," that's what they wanted, I hope they are happy. Trump may have been an asshole but he was doing a great job of running this country. You can't blame Putin for this current inflation, it's all on Biden.

[QUOTE=AIImonger;5816602]One last one.

Your hero.

Do you think the shape of the plane might give it away?

[URL]https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-donor-speech-russia-china-nuclear-apocalypse-1317412/[/URL][/QUOTE]AIImonger you and people like you are really misinformed. You need to listen to a little right news to balance out some of that misleading left news. Here is an example. Recently Biden said he produced more oil in his first year in office then Trump did in his first year in office, that is true. But what the left news doesn't tell you is Trump inherited Obama's and Biden's low production numbers. Trump spent his first year undoing the damage that Obama and Biden did. When Biden took office he inherited Trump's high production numbers, so that's how Biden produced more oil in his first year in office then Trump did in his first year in office. This is how the left news lies or misleads you.

And just an FYI, Trump produced more oil in his first year in office then Obama and Biden did in their last year in office. Yes he ramped up Obama and Biden's low numbers.

I'm not a religious man but I recently stumbled upon a Christian talk radio show called the Bob Dutko show. I find him to be fair with his opinions without being too far right like a Sean Hannity. He's on 103.5 FM from noon to 4 pm M-F. Maybe check it out if you have a free minute or two. And before anyone asks, yes I listen to left news.

I'm starting to think Putin was tricked / goaded into invading. And we are providing just enough support to Ukraine to extract the maximum amount of pain on Russia to erode their resources and morale. We are using Ukrainian lives to further our goals.

[QUOTE=BingGo;5822310]AIImonger you and people like you are really misinformed. You need to listen to a little right news to balance out some of that misleading left news. Here is an example. Recently Biden said he produced more oil in his first year in office then Trump did in his first year in office, that is true. But what the left news doesn't tell you is Trump inherited Obama's and Biden's low production numbers. Trump spent his first year undoing the damage that Obama and Biden did. When Biden took office he inherited Trump's high production numbers, so that's how Biden produced more oil in his first year in office then Trump did in his first year in office. This is how the left news lies or misleads you.

And just an FYI, Trump produced more oil in his first year in office then Obama and Biden did in their last year in office. Yes he ramped up Obama and Biden's low numbers.

I'm not a religious man but I recently stumbled upon a Christian talk radio show called the Bob Dutko show. I find him to be fair with his opinions without being too far right like a Sean Hannity. He's on 103.5 FM from noon to 4 pm M-F. Maybe check it out if you have a free minute or two. And before anyone asks, yes I listen to left news.[/QUOTE]And I read the earning reports of the oil companies. The investors were promised that the new oil fields would become more efficient and become profitable, but after years of slow progress they were tired of setting their money on fire during trumps 3rd year when oil production was highest, oil was cheap and they were losing money pumping inefficient fields. And the environmentalist activist investors from blackrock on top of that.

[QUOTE=Perusing;5821794]It's been my experience that those who lash out with insult and generalizations have little of substance to bring to the table yet still wish to be heard. I'm sensing you're one of them.

So, let's get a few things out of the way. I haven't voted for a Democrat since Jimmy Carter and have never voted for a republican. Biden is a psychopathic neo-con imperialist. In general he's no better than Trump and in some ways he is worse. Certainly neither give a damn about the working class and I'm not interested in supporting anyone who doesn't put them first.

Now back to oil and gas. US oil production dropped because demand dropped due to the Covid-19 pandemic. US Oil production had fallen 3 million barrels per day by May of 2020. At that time, Trump was president, not Biden. Guess superman couldn't find his cape.

Also during this time some wells were tapped and closed down. Oil industry workers were lost, new drilling wasn't pursued and the permits sat on, the transportation and shipping industries were thrown into turmoil. None of this has fully recovered and some is still in disarray.

Oil companies could have keep their workers on and their wells pumping at reduced outputs and even opened new wells until things turned around except for one thing, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PROFITABLE! And the protection of those profits are far more important than any working man or women ever will be to those companies. And if you think that's something that changes when it's a Dem or Rep in charge, you're just foolish..[/QUOTE]It's my experience that people that need a lengthy manifesto two explain something that is simple and obvious is generally full of bullshit. You are one of those people. If you think Biden has nothing to do with the increase in fuel prices and the inflation spike, good for you. Have fun defending it. Also voting for carter is not really something to be proud of. You pick some real winners.

Republicans are in the pocket of big oil and democrats are in the pocket of new technologies. Hate to break it to you but many things are going in the way of new technologies and that is what you call evolution. If you are in a technology field right now trump's tariffs created a massive semiconductor issue. Trump also weakened nato, wanted to be a dictator and many other bad things. On the positive side he did step up some oil production and didn't go around trying to be world police.

[QUOTE=HobbyAddict08;5823272]It's my experience that people that need a lengthy manifesto two explain something that is simple and obvious is generally full of bullshit. You are one of those people. If you think Biden has nothing to do with the increase in fuel prices and the inflation spike, good for you. Have fun defending it. Also voting for carter is not really something to be proud of. You pick some real winners.[/QUOTE]So "simple and obvious" yet you can't explain it. Seems a bit odd. And if your Tds in title means Trump Derangement Syndrome you can't go there with me, the entire Russia-gate fiasco was a total hoax and never bought into it. Didn't need false claims. All he's ever done proves he's a nothing but a huckster. And I have nothing to defend, just watching the river flow by.

[QUOTE=SycloneGs2013;5772528]I wouldn't mind seeing her either she looks like she would be fun.[/QUOTE]To answer your question, because you're a fucking Leech. All you ever do is ask for handouts.

[QUOTE=Perusing;5825628]So "simple and obvious" yet you can't explain it. Seems a bit odd. And if your Tds in title means Trump Derangement Syndrome you can't go there with me, the entire Russia-gate fiasco was a total hoax and never bought into it. Didn't need false claims. All he's ever done proves he's a nothing but a huckster. And I have nothing to defend, just watching the river flow by.[/QUOTE]Nothing to defend and watching the river. You just wrote five paragraphs absolving Biden of any responsibility for high gasoline prices. Anyway I did explain. Polar opposite energy policy from trump's might have something to do with it. 1. 5 million barrels of oil per day less coming out of the ground in the USA Compared to pre pandemic might matter. It's a result of policy. Defending Biden is a lonely place to be.

[QUOTE=WillieRichie;5823066]Just book a room at Hong Kong and go nowhere else. Thats a mongers heaven. Nowhere else compares. Thank me later.[/QUOTE]I will type this really slowly so you can understand (maybe). No one should have to assume what you're talking about. Something as simple as a link when suggesting a place or even a provider helps dearly. Not every member here knows who Amber is just like not every member her knows what Hong Kong is.

[QUOTE=HobbyAddict08;5826513]Nothing to defend and watching the river. You just wrote five paragraphs absolving Biden of any responsibility for high gasoline prices. Anyway I did explain. Polar opposite energy policy from trump's might have something to do with it. 1. 5 million barrels of oil per day less coming out of the ground in the USA Compared to pre pandemic might matter. It's a result of policy. Defending Biden is a lonely place to be.[/QUOTE]I'm not defending Biden. I dispute your claim that it is his energy policies that are responsible for the increases in gas prices. I listed some facts that disprove your claim. But you don't care about those measly kinds of truth, just like the shit-libs didn't care about the truths that disproved the Russiagate bullshit. And that's not a defense of Trump policies. Only a defense of what is true and what isn't. You think Trump is a hero and there are those who say that about Biden and did / do about Obama. You are all disillusioned fools.

Biden didn't stop 1. 5 million barrels of oil from coming out of US soil. You are wrong about that. If you weren't, you'd have the facts to make your claim. But you have nothing but, "it's the libs". That tells me you're more interested in blaming a Political Party than understanding the issues. And like that always has in the past, gets us nowhere. Both the Dems and Reps are tools, you better start understanding who owns the toolbox they live in.

[QUOTE=EdHemlock;5829737]Rae / Raella did this to me 2-3 times. [b]Must run in the family[/b].[/QUOTE]By run in the family do you mean your dad was spineless too?

[QUOTE=JackWalker;5827160]Bring some good reading material. I have booked with Bella and waited over 2 hours after getting inside her room. [/QUOTE]Jesus Fucking Christ guys grow some balls, stop letting these girls shit on you. This is why these girls do this shit, because guys like you act like fucking lap dogs.

The peak daily US price of gas in 2008, under President Bush was $4. 11, adjusted for inflation would be $5. 46.

The link between partisan politics and gas prices is a lie.

80% of all USD has been printed since the pandemic lockdown. Don't be surprised by 500% inflation the next 10 years. That would be an average of 17.5% inflation per year.

[QUOTE=NeilYoung999;5830415]The peak daily US price of gas in 2008, under President Bush was $4. 11, adjusted for inflation would be $5. 46.

The link between partisan politics and gas prices is a lie.[/QUOTE]Seriously what world are you living in? BIDEN is and has been asking every country to steep up and produce more oil. Every country except his own. He's a fkn conman. If you like him your missing a fkn brain. Its all been coming out and your still in denial.

[QUOTE=Nick6789;5830735]80% of all USD has been printed since the pandemic lockdown. Don't be surprised by 500% inflation the next 10 years. That would be an average of 17.5% inflation per year.[/QUOTE]10 k per year.

Is this Nostradamus or Edgar Casey?

[QUOTE=Nick6789;5830735]80% of all USD has been printed since the pandemic lockdown. Don't be surprised by 500% inflation the next 10 years. That would be an average of 17.5% inflation per year.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nick6789;5830735]80% of all USD has been printed since the pandemic lockdown. Don't be surprised by 500% inflation the next 10 years. That would be an average of 17.5% inflation per year.[/QUOTE]This is some seriously dumb shit.

That rate of inflation happened once in our modern history; 1917. The longest sustained period of inflation was the 1970's, for those old enough to remember. Inflation sucks; know what sucks worse? Deflation, as that happens in recessions.

We have a Death of Expertise, as a significant portion of the population thinks that their unfounded opinion is equal to or better than that of industry and studied experts. Over the past 40-50 years, and accelerated in the past 15-20, we have become an Unserious Nation.

[QUOTE=Perusing;5830342]I'm not defending Biden. I dispute your claim that it is his energy policies that are responsible for the increases in gas prices. I listed some facts that disprove your claim. But you don't care about those measly kinds of truth, just like the shit-libs didn't care about the truths that disproved the Russiagate bullshit. And that's not a defense of Trump policies. Only a defense of what is true and what isn't. You think Trump is a hero and there are those who say that about Biden and did / do about Obama. You are all disillusioned fools.

Biden didn't stop 1. 5 million barrels of oil from coming out of US soil. You are wrong about that. If you weren't, you'd have the facts to make your claim. But you have nothing but, "it's the libs". That tells me you're more interested in blaming a Political Party than understanding the issues. And like that always has in the past, gets us nowhere. Both the Dems and Reps are tools, you better start understanding who owns the toolbox they live in.[/QUOTE]No you never gave facts to prove me wrong. 1. 5 million barrels per day less than pre covid. Here's the facts.

[URL]https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCRFPUS2&f=W[/URL]

Within two weeks of taking office biden unleashed a slew of executive orders that limited where drilling can happen, both deny and delaying permits and increasing costs to drill. Here's that bacon.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/biden-suspends-oil-and-gas-drilling-in-series-of.html[/URL]

Even in the midst of an energy crisis he won't drill here. The planet doesn't mind if you drill somewhere else though. Or he's pleasing the leftist kooks in his and you political party. So hes asking the Saudis who said fuck you. Now hes asking Iran and Venezuela. Sound like something bvb trump would do? Don't think so. No trumps not my hero. He was right on energy though. $2. 25 national average the day he left. Been to a pump lately? Oh but it's not his policies. They just magically doubled. TDS is the only thing that can explain someone as blind as you.

[QUOTE=Perusing;5830342]I'm not defending Biden. I dispute your claim that it is his energy policies that are responsible for the increases in gas prices. I listed some facts that disprove your claim. But you don't care about those measly kinds of truth, just like the shit-libs didn't care about the truths that disproved the Russiagate bullshit. And that's not a defense of Trump policies. Only a defense of what is true and what isn't. You think Trump is a hero and there are those who say that about Biden and did / do about Obama. You are all disillusioned fools.

Biden didn't stop 1. 5 million barrels of oil from coming out of US soil. You are wrong about that. If you weren't, you'd have the facts to make your claim. But you have nothing but, "it's the libs". That tells me you're more interested in blaming a Political Party than understanding the issues. And like that always has in the past, gets us nowhere. Both the Dems and Reps are tools, you better start understanding who owns the toolbox they live in.[/QUOTE]No you never gave facts to prove me wrong. 1. 5 million barrels per day less than pre covid. Here's the facts.

[URL]https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCRFPUS2&f=W[/URL]

Within two weeks of taking office biden unleashed a slew of executive orders that limited where drilling can happen, both deny and delaying permits and increasing costs to drill. Here's that bacon.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/biden-suspends-oil-and-gas-drilling-in-series-of.html[/URL]

Even in the midst of an energy crisis he won't drill here. The planet doesn't mind if you drill somewhere else though. Or he's pleasing the leftist kooks in his and you political party. So hes asking the Saudis who said fuck you. Now hes asking Iran and Venezuela. Sound like something bvb trump would do? Don't think so. No trumps not my hero. He was right on energy though. $2. 25 national average the day he left. Been to a pump lately? Oh but it's not his policies. They just magically doubled. TDS is the only thing that can explain someone as blind as you.

[QUOTE=NewGuyNot;5831241]Seriously what world are you living in? BIDEN is and has been asking every country to steep up and produce more oil. Every country except his own. He's a fkn conman. If you like him your missing a fkn brain. Its all been coming out and your still in denial.[/QUOTE]I don't "like" Biden, didn't vote for him either. He's too much of an establishment moderate. But I'll take him over that embarrassment of a President Trump, he's the real con man. I hate Trump. That fuckhead had half the country not trusting the election process. Guy is despicable and should be in prison. Tried to overthrow our democracy. Fuck that guy and the horse he rode in on. The nation has never been more divided and he stoked the fires. I hope he falls down a well.

I voted for a real patriot. Bernie Sanders isn't perfect but he was the only politician with the balls to address the real issues and problems with our system. It makes me sad to think of what we could have had.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5831542]This is some seriously dumb shit.

That rate of inflation happened once in our modern history; 1917. The longest sustained period of inflation was the 1970's, for those old enough to remember. Inflation sucks; know what sucks worse? Deflation, as that happens in recessions.

We have a Death of Expertise, as a significant portion of the population thinks that their unfounded opinion is equal to or better than that of industry and studied experts. Over the past 40-50 years, and accelerated in the past 15-20, we have become an Unserious Nation.[/QUOTE]That will be the average inflation seen in the entire economy and will probably be best reflected in the S&P500 index. More desireable assets will increase more than that and less desireable assets will decrease less than that. The inflation you experience will depend on what aspirations you want in life, the higher your aspirations the more inflation you will see. If you want to live in an apartment and eat hot dogs you'll see much less inflation than someone that wants to buy a vacation rental a Kardashian would want to show off on instagram.

The destruction of our manufacturing base is due to our insistence of using the USD as the world reserve currency. We force countries to make deals in USD under threat of violence or sanctions. Now imagine you are a country that takes out a loan of $10 B and have to pay back $12 B eventually. Where does that extra $2 B come from? You have to export $2 B more than you import. Now imagine you are the USA and you are importing more than you export because that is your foreign policy you are forcing on other countries. That means you are buying more things from other countries and selling less things to other countries. The glut of imports decrease prices in the US, the dearth of demand for exports decreases demand for US made things. The only industries that survive are industries that cannot be provided from other countries.

[QUOTE=NewGuyNot;5831241]Seriously what world are you living in? BIDEN is and has been asking every country to steep up and produce more oil. Every country except his own. He's a fkn conman. If you like him your missing a fkn brain. Its all been coming out and your still in denial.[/QUOTE]He has asked US oil companies to ramp up production. Specifically to lower gas prices. They can't, or won't or are trying but it's not as simple as a snap of the fingers and magically oil appears. Don't like Biden, I don't like him either but this isn't one you can hang on him. There are a multitude of reasons US oil production has not been able to return to prepandemic levels, but Biden isn't the one preventing it. Your ilk keep making this claim but offer nothing that supports it. What's been "coming out"? Show us or shut up.

[QUOTE=Nick6789;5831905]The destruction of our manufacturing base is due to our insistence of using the USD as the world reserve currency. We force countries to make deals in USD under threat of violence or sanctions. Now imagine you are a country that takes out a loan of $10 B and have to pay back $12 B eventually. Where does that extra $2 B come from? You have to export $2 B more than you import. Now imagine you are the USA and you are importing more than you export because that is your foreign policy you are forcing on other countries. That means you are buying more things from other countries and selling less things to other countries. The glut of imports decrease prices in the US, the dearth of demand for exports decreases demand for US made things. The only industries that survive are industries that cannot be provided from other countries.[/QUOTE]If you are not familiar already, look into the Petrodollar. Not something most Americans have any knowledge of but it is in serious risk of falling apart and more relevant today than ever. Countries are beginning to seriously fight back against US bullying and it isn't going to bode well for the US. Corporations run this country and are supported by both Dems and Reps who are nothing other than their puppets.

[QUOTE=Nick6789;5831870]That will be the average inflation seen in the entire economy and will probably be best reflected in the S&P500 index. More desireable assets will increase more than that and less desireable assets will decrease less than that. The inflation you experience will depend on what aspirations you want in life, the higher your aspirations the more inflation you will see. If you want to live in an apartment and eat hot dogs you'll see much less inflation than someone that wants to buy a vacation rental a Kardashian would want to show off on instagram.[/QUOTE]I don't agree. Inflation is affecting lower income levels in a very real sense. If you are an apartment dweller you are seeing much higher rents. Food expenses are much higher. It's persons who can least afford it that are getting hurt by this the most.

Now the new mantra from the Democratic party is that inflation is Putin's fault. Most people aren't that dumb. Some are, but the vast majority aren't.

[QUOTE=NeilYoung999;5831674]I don't "like" Biden, didn't vote for him either. He's too much of an establishment moderate. But I'll take him over that embarrassment of a President Trump, he's the real con man. I hate Trump. That fuckhead had half the country not trusting the election process. Guy is despicable and should be in prison. Tried to overthrow our democracy. Fuck that guy and the horse he rode in on. The nation has never been more divided and he stoked the fires. I hope he falls down a well.

I voted for a real patriot. Bernie Sanders isn't perfect but he was the only politician with the balls to address the real issues and problems with our system. It makes me sad to think of what we could have had.[/QUOTE]What was the price of gas when Trump was president? Was Russia attacking Ukraine when Trump was president? Didn't he broker a peace treaty between Israel and Sudan? Wasn't unemployment 3. 5% before the virus? What has Biden done? I personally don't like Trump as a person but he did a lot of good things for this country and others. All democrats did was try and bury the guy because they knew they were about to be exposed. You voted for Sanders? Are you a communist? Go live in Venezuela for a year and let me know how it works out for ya. Papa Be.

What was the price of gas when Trump was president? Are you suggesting that the President controls the entire market?

Was Russia attacking Ukraine when Trump was president? No, do you seriously think Trump would have been able to stop this from happening? Source to back up your claim. But I do know Trump was holding aid hostage unless he was given dirt on Hunter.

Didn't he broker a peace treaty between Israel and Sudan? Hell of a job. [URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/24/sudans-political-parties-reject-israeli-normalisation-deal[/URL].

Wasn't unemployment 3. 5% before the virus? Yes, jumped to almost 15% too. ([URL]https://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/national-employment-monthly-update.aspx[/URL]).

What has Biden done? He got the first part of the infrastructure package passed so things like IDK, bridges are not falling down. Roads getting repair.

You voted for Sanders? Are you a communist? I don't think yo would know a communist if one bit you in the ass. Sanders isn't a communist.

Go live in Venezuela for a year and let me know how it works out for ya.

BTW. 500,000 + people died on Trumps watch when the Pandemic hit. 500,000 in 10 - 11 months. Didn't he say go to Easter services. This thing is a hoax.

[QUOTE=NeilYoung999;5831674]I don't "like" Biden, didn't vote for him either. He's too much of an establishment moderate. But I'll take him over that embarrassment of a President Trump, he's the real con man. I hate Trump. That fuckhead had half the country not trusting the election process. Guy is despicable and should be in prison. Tried to overthrow our democracy. Fuck that guy and the horse he rode in on. The nation has never been more divided and he stoked the fires. I hope he falls down a well.

I voted for a real patriot. Bernie Sanders isn't perfect but he was the only politician with the balls to address the real issues and problems with our system. It makes me sad to think of what we could have had.[/QUOTE]Don't know which Joe Biden your talking about. The one that ran as a moderate or the leftist one we have now. The Democratic party is controlled by the Bernie Sanders, AOC wing of the party. I'm an old school moderate myself, but the Democratic party has gone WAY too far left for my tastes.

[QUOTE=NeilYoung999;5831674]I don't "like" Biden, didn't vote for him either. He's too much of an establishment moderate. But I'll take him over that embarrassment of a President Trump, he's the real con man. I hate Trump. That fuckhead had half the country not trusting the election process. Guy is despicable and should be in prison. Tried to overthrow our democracy. Fuck that guy and the horse he rode in on. The nation has never been more divided and he stoked the fires. I hope he falls down a well.

I voted for a real patriot. Bernie Sanders isn't perfect but he was the only politician with the balls to address the real issues and problems with our system. It makes me sad to think of what we could have had.[/QUOTE]I been voting third party or independent for decades. I should have voted for trump though. I love everyone always talking about what an embarrassment trump was. Do you think any world leader respect or listen to Biden? No one in the Middle East will even take his call when he was looking for help with oil. Now he's in Poland today talking about how the USA Need to prepare for food shortages! Hope your pride in Biden stave off that hunger in your belly bruh. Black folk got suckered into voting for Biden, one of the worst mistakes black people made. Looking back now I see how my job and my pay got better under trump. I didn't get a raise yet under Biden but with gas and price of all my expenses feel like I'm getting my pay cut.

Russia dis info about Hunter laptop during the election. New York Times talking about "37 intel experts declare Hunter laptop leak Russian election interference and fake news". Now finally last week New York Times finally saying that it is true after all. And hunter going to be going for tax evasion and theyll be trying to print more shit protecting ol joe. Ain't a single reliable media outlet in this country. US full of nothing but liars and suckers theses days.

I didn't get any raises except for cola for 10 years, then they let me go during covid. Recently they are begging for me to come back with a 33% raise. I will probably go back to work, but I don't need to.

if you haven't gotten a raise, you need to get an offer letter and threaten to leave. there is a recession coming soon when the fed has to raise rates faster to fight inflation. be in the right stocks and your savings will grow in the mean time.

Russia attacking might be good for US based companies compared to european. Comparing stock prices of $X, US Steel, and $MT, ArcelorMittal. Time will tell.

[QUOTE=Nick6789;5840976]I didn't get any raises except for cola for 10 years, then they let me go during covid. Recently they are begging for me to come back with a 33% raise. I will probably go back to work, but I don't need to.

if you haven't gotten a raise, you need to get an offer letter and threaten to leave. there is a recession coming soon when the fed has to raise rates faster to fight inflation. be in the right stocks and your savings will grow in the mean time.[/QUOTE]You right. It's all going to come crashing at some point. Probly sooner than later. I should see what's out there and make a move or use it to get what I want where I'm at. And I shouldn't be yelling at NeilYoung999. Thats what they want. Fight back and forth, or fight black / white. We need to be fighting class warfare not race warfare or political party warfare.

[QUOTE=Edubbs;5841780]You right. It's all going to come crashing at some point. Probly sooner than later. I should see what's out there and make a move or use it to get what I want where I'm at. And I shouldn't be yelling at NeilYoung999. Thats what they want. Fight back and forth, or fight black / white. We need to be fighting class warfare not race warfare or political party warfare.[/QUOTE]In your post just before this one you said blacks were suckered into voting for Biden / Harris and I couldn't agree more, except to say they weren't the only ones. I don't think Trump would have made much of a difference, however. He, like Biden is no friend of the working class regardless of what he claimed. They're both con-men in their own right. Remember the CARES Act that was suppose to benefit the struggling working folk but somehow instead resulted in benefiting the wealthiest corporations and individuals far more. That wasn't an accident, and Trump signed it even though he said he didn't like the bill.

You are absolutely correct in understanding we need to be fighting on the side of the working class and that's something neither the Dems or Reps are there to do. Their shared goal is to fracture the working class as much as possible in order to prevent that fight! Be well, stay safe.

[QUOTE=Perusing;5843566]In your post just before this one you said blacks were suckered into voting for Biden / Harris and I couldn't agree more, except to say they weren't the only ones. I don't think Trump would have made much of a difference, however. He, like Biden is no friend of the working class regardless of what he claimed. They're both con-men in their own right. Remember the CARES Act that was suppose to benefit the struggling working folk but somehow instead resulted in benefiting the wealthiest corporations and individuals far more. That wasn't an accident, and Trump signed it even though he said he didn't like the bill.

You are absolutely correct in understanding we need to be fighting on the side of the working class and that's something neither the Dems or Reps are there to do. Their shared goal is to fracture the working class as much as possible in order to prevent that fight! Be well, stay safe.[/QUOTE]The only thing we had that was helping the common worker was Unions. Yes Unions. Yet somehow Republicans and their mouth pieces convinced right wing voters that Unions were bad. When NAFTA (engineered by the Papa Bush administration though signed into being by Bill Clinton) was introduced it was a slap at harming Unions nothing more nothing less. After that it was off to the races by shipping any and all manufacturing plants to other countries. We are caught in this conundrum because one side says Unions bad while the other can't get it's act together. While Unionized workers become less and less. Divide and conquer has already occurred we're just waiting for the last shovel full of dirt to be placed on top of the grave of worker rights.

[QUOTE=Sparkeyman;5843603]The only thing we had that was helping the common worker was Unions. Yes Unions. Yet somehow Republicans and their mouth pieces convinced right wing voters that Unions were bad. When NAFTA (engineered by the Papa Bush administration though signed into being by Bill Clinton) was introduced it was a slap at harming Unions nothing more nothing less. After that it was off to the races by shipping any and all manufacturing plants to other countries. We are caught in this conundrum because one side says Unions bad while the other can't get it's act together. While Unionized workers become less and less. Divide and conquer has already occurred we're just waiting for the last shovel full of dirt to be placed on top of the grave of worker rights.[/QUOTE]The average person has no idea how important unions are. Even for non union workers. Unions have gone too far in some cases with stealing money or helping loser drug addicts keep jobs that don't help the company at all. But at the end of the day the benefits outweighs the bad shit. I start looking back and everyone knows Republicans openly fight against unions. Democrats are vocal for unions, but they actions are different from their words. Looking at actions It's like all the politicians have the same goal, they just publicly say different things.

Bottom line is unfortunately your right. It's probably a lost battle, we just about completely buried.

[QUOTE=Rcass503;5845528]Was heading north on Pelham waiting at the light at Van Born on the way to drop off some papers to a car I was selling. Saw a young girl, White in her twenties walking east on Van Born. [b]Something about her walk got my spider sense tingling[/b]. Went to finish what I was originally in the area for a swung back by hoping to get lucky. Sure enough, she had crossed the street and was walking back toward Pelham. Scooped her up, said her name was a few different things Deleted by Admin. BBBJ for four, let me grab her ass (which was cute, more of a butter face otherwise). Dropped off at a trailer park around there. Totally wasn't expecting it, not often in the area, but when I am, I will be looking to repeat.[/QUOTE]Some advice. Post like a grown ass man, no one wants to her about your pee-pee tingling. Same goes for dream and candy.