The Great and Powerful Oz
[QUOTE=Admin2; 1826345]Personally I don't like having the curtain pulled back. I don't want to know my bartenders personal problems, I don't want to know if my mechanic and his wife are having problems.
I accept Dawn's premise that providers are people, I always treat them with respect but when I'm paying the kind of money I pay for a session I expect their complete attention on MY pleasure, that's THE REASON I pay them, so that I can be selfish.
All that being said, yes I take a shower IMMEDIATELY before a session, yes I trim my nails because she's right scratches all up in there are bad news. Yes I respect a providers right to determine her limits and she can make them whatever she wants, this is without qualification, their bodies are THEIR bodies. I just want to know what those limits are before hand so I can determine my limits on voting with my wallet. CBJ only, fine, no BJ at all, fine, no back door action, ok, it's all ok, but I will probably go elsewhere faced with some of the above limitations.
I engage in the hobby because I want drama free pleasure, if I wanted to worry about the fun they are having, well, I've been married twice before. That doesn't mean I don't whip out some of my DATY from time to time but I'm certainly not obligated to do it, I do it if I feel like doing it. None of this doesn't mean I'm not friendly, kind, respectful, because I am, just as I'm friendly kind, respectful with my bartender, barber, mechanic, I'm friendly, kind, respectful with everybody given the chance.
Personally I want to be able to maintain the fantasy that when I'm not with them, they are preparing to be with me. Working out, getting their hair done, nails, shopping for panties, making out with their girlfriends, then when I call they fix their makeup and wait for me with breathless anticipation, because they think I'm so hot that if they didn't have bills to pay they would bang me for free. I know none of that is the truth, I know they have kids, and parent teacher conferences, and menstrual cramps, and bad days, I know all that stuff, I just don't want to hear about it. If I did, I wouldn't play in this arena, it's not that I can't pull, I can, it's that I WANT to be COMPLETELY selfish and I'm paying for that privilege.
Dawn I respect your right to post what you want to in this thread and I applaud honesty at all times however the underlying contempt you have for your customers was very evident in that post. It wouldn't have been your rules that would have put me off if I lived in Cincy. This isn't a flame, I appreciate your candor and there are LOTS of guys that get off being with providers that treat them with contempt, your call volume will most likely increase not decrease with that post.
One other thing, when did "any money that exchanges hands is for time only" actually become real and not a polite fiction to get past ad censors?
Not written in blue, this is A2 the monger, not A2 the godlike presence on the forum posting.
A2[/QUOTE]I agree with A2, I don't want to see the little old man behind the curtain pulling all the levers to keep things running in the hobby of fantasy.
That said, as I have stated before, I believe that if you do your best not to be an smelly ogre and make your provider happy, you will more than likely have a better session. So I do try to shave and shower just before the session, and do keep my nails trimmed to the quick, especially since my best technique is digital stimulation, combined with DATY that leads to squirting orgasms.
As to performing DATY, I usually love it, unless the lady is unclean or has strange eating habits-ladies just a heads up, if you eat a bunch of onions, guess what you will taste like down there. The same is true for guys-some foods have a dramatic impact on how your fluids taste. Onions bad, kiwi and pineapple good.
I like to think I am pretty good at DATY, but have an ulterior motive. I have often been tempted to ask A2 to change my name to Goatboy:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQIoc2FCvc[/url]
Ladies, tie me to your headboard, throw your legs over my shoulders and let me wear you like a feedbag. Goatboy is here to please you.
Dawns comments, read between the lines, they are suggestions.
They should be taken go heart. For the old hands in this hobby I think her words are reminders.
For the younger and greener newbies, pay attention.
A Provider is a woman is a human is a lady. No one should forget respect. No one should treat anyone in a way in which they themselves wouldn't wish to be treated.
I think any provider who has been "providing" for any amount of time will certainly have her appointments she wishes didn't happen. That's in the power of the gentleman, or "boy" who shows up knocking on the door.
There really should be a thread of what guys could and should do before, during, and after an appointment.
You may think your the DATY king, and may be, you might think your a stud because you can go longer than some, but, like she said, she wants respect and deserves it.
She has feelings and there are days she will no doubt dislike the hobby. If your seeing her, or any lady, treat her like a Lady, listen and pay attention to her voice and her body language.
And. Be fn clean and don't stink.
Dawn, baby, I got your back! .
Your beautiful, inside and out.
The tone is always hard to read. It can always be taken the wrong way.
In emails, texts, etc.
First, Admin2, may I broach something that kinda bothered me in your reply?
The first sentence regarding how you don't want to know your bartenders personal problems or if your mechanic and his wife are having problems, I took as you were suggesting that I gossip about unneeded information during an appointment. That is not what I do, it is not my style. Maybe you didn't mean that or didn't mean for it to come across that way.
I have never been one to gossip and I won't ever be that way.
Most recently, I have found out that another provider has been spreading malicious rumors regarding me to hobbyists. What's new about this? Well nothing normally, however I know who the girl is that said what was stated and I have always had respect for her and I have always spoke very highly of her and so I am confused as to why she would do such a thing. It makes me most mad because I almost considered her a friend and I feel like a fool. I've allowed her to get by with a few things, other fabricated stories that weren't as extreme and I let them go, but this was the last straw. She had NO conscience of my children or how I support them or pay my bills, knowing I am a single mother who does everything on her own, when she maliciously started the fabricated rumors regarding me so therefore she has lost any respect that I ever had for her. I'll leave it that because I am not one to dwell on nor cause drama.
She knows who she is as do I and we will leave it at that. I feel like a BIG fool and stupid. I am naive and think everyone else is honest and trusting, but too often I am taught differently and when that happens it is a sad moment.
The cattiness and the malicious attempts to hurt another provider is uncalled for and not needed. I just don't understand why some of the girls do this.
Maybe I never will.
I do not gossip nor spend my time during an appointment talking about useless stuff, unless the gentleman approaches a subject and is truly interested in discussing it.
All the best,
Dawn.
[QUOTE=Admin2; 1826345]Personally I don't like having the curtain pulled back. I don't want to know my bartenders personal problems, I don't want to know if my mechanic and his wife are having problems.
I accept Dawn's premise that providers are people, I always treat them with respect but when I'm paying the kind of money I pay for a session I expect their complete attention on MY pleasure, that's THE REASON I pay them, so that I can be selfish.
All that being said, yes I take a shower IMMEDIATELY before a session, yes I trim my nails because she's right scratches all up in there are bad news. Yes I respect a providers right to determine her limits and she can make them whatever she wants, this is without qualification, their bodies are THEIR bodies. I just want to know what those limits are before hand so I can determine my limits on voting with my wallet. CBJ only, fine, no BJ at all, fine, no back door action, ok, it's all ok, but I will probably go elsewhere faced with some of the above limitations.
I engage in the hobby because I want drama free pleasure, if I wanted to worry about the fun they are having, well, I've been married twice before. That doesn't mean I don't whip out some of my DATY from time to time but I'm certainly not obligated to do it, I do it if I feel like doing it. None of this doesn't mean I'm not friendly, kind, respectful, because I am, just as I'm friendly kind, respectful with my bartender, barber, mechanic, I'm friendly, kind, respectful with everybody given the chance.
Personally I want to be able to maintain the fantasy that when I'm not with them, they are preparing to be with me. Working out, getting their hair done, nails, shopping for panties, making out with their girlfriends, then when I call they fix their makeup and wait for me with breathless anticipation, because they think I'm so hot that if they didn't have bills to pay they would bang me for free. I know none of that is the truth, I know they have kids, and parent teacher conferences, and menstrual cramps, and bad days, I know all that stuff, I just don't want to hear about it. If I did, I wouldn't play in this arena, it's not that I can't pull, I can, it's that I WANT to be COMPLETELY selfish and I'm paying for that privilege.
Dawn I respect your right to post what you want to in this thread and I applaud honesty at all times however the underlying contempt you have for your customers was very evident in that post. It wouldn't have been your rules that would have put me off if I lived in Cincy. This isn't a flame, I appreciate your candor and there are LOTS of guys that get off being with providers that treat them with contempt, your call volume will most likely increase not decrease with that post.
One other thing, when did "any money that exchanges hands is for time only" actually become real and not a polite fiction to get past ad censors?
Not written in blue, this is A2 the monger, not A2 the godlike presence on the forum posting.
A2[/QUOTE]