I asked for help and she gave me a hand
[QUOTE=Bseeks]I have been thinking about this for some time, and I wonder if my fellow mongers have an opinion. It seems like a silly thing, which is why I haven't raised it before. Perhaps that will keep the flames to a minimum.
In an AMP, I really enjoy the HJ more than the FS. I like a good bbbj too, but FS just doesn't do it for me as much. Well, then you might say, "you're in luck, because HJ is cheaper". But here's the discussion point. Along with the HJ, I like the full attention, body to body, mouth, other parts, etc. So I want the full treatment, but I am pretty happy if she finishes it manually.
When I have just paid the HJ price, I have often gotten very mediocre, disinterested service, particularly in recent years. it seems like 5 years ago, the HJ was a perfectly acceptable conclusion.
Yes, I can ask her to do it that way, and I have, but it always seems like a strange request and she doesn't understand it.
Maybe I don't even have a question here, but I wonder if other mongers have any similar experience with this issue and if there is a good approach that you could share.
Thanks much.
B.[/QUOTE]I share many of your views and appreciate your post [though perhaps it should be on another board; since the ongoing flame war isn't though, then no reason why this should, I guess].
However, my strong sense is that we. As mongers and as part of the general male population. Are in a distinct minority. [aside: one adult website I belong too sometimes has HJ videos on. Which I really like. But most of the site's members (no pun. They have a comments section) think it's almost gay to watch them and basically seem to say (a) "why would I want to watch what I can do myself" or (be) "why would I want to watch what I had to settle for in HS? ".
Like you, I, too, appreciate a well-performed and intimate handjob with extras (including kissing) and other things as you describe. IMHO, this can be extremely erotic, many times even more so than standard fare. She's has to concentrate on you. She can't just close her eyes and perform (or let you perform on her). She can lay next to you and get really close. Third, when it's popping time. You (and her) get to see the whole show. Now, don't get me wrong, there's a place for BJs and everything else. It's not like I don't do that. But the standard HJ has stood its test in time since high school.
When I began mongering in fact, this is what I almost always got. For a variety of reasons including not knowing that there were other menu items. I think you're right that that this practice has changed some over the last years.
I have also experienced a disinclination by some. But not most. Girls to giving HJs. Mostly, its an economic issue, but also it requires a level of intimacy sometimes that they just don't want to engage in.
My. 02 and I'm glad to have a fellow traveler!
Newspapers don't always report as soon as news breaks
My information may or may not appear in print until the actual sentencing is complete. I only reported what was told to me by a person who has intimate knowledge of what was offered at the pre-sentencing trial. If you will read some of my old intelligence reports my info is on the money. I did not mean to cause any debates. What happened has happened and it is old news. What is needed now is good reports on providers, establishments and what is happening in the market place daily. I refer to it as market place only in the sense that it seems better to make it sound like a commodity since it is a money making business. Most of the owners I knew and working girls or going to be gone for about a year or more. That means I need to go back out and start getting known again. This will then bring back good reports since I have not really reported on any new commodities in a year. Reports will soon be coming in again. Go out and find a good commodity and see how it performs.
The 'market' state - my take
I think the DC market is in a pretty sorry state compared to pre-Black Wednesday. It seems a lot of the good places remain shut down (or subsequently shut, like Sun). There are a few nice girls, but it's harder to find the knock-your-socks-off kind of experience we used to find. Few of the younger girls seem to be coming to DC.
I'll make a couple of points: Aside from the LE situation, I think the Washington Post's decision to stop accepting ads has hurt the business, since people don't know what open, when a new place opens or another closes (aside from reading this forum) and that makes it harder to attract talent. So I'm not sure if there is away for the spas to advertise without getting in hot water.
Also, I don't want to get flamed here, but I think the pricing in DC may also be a factor. If you compare with New York -- the prices are $$ to $$.2 but there is an abundance of young, beautiful talent. Prices have been unchanged for a decade and with inflation and exchnage rates, K-girls may find the trip to DC less rewarding than in the past. They follow the money, like everyone else.
I still hold out some hope that the good times will come back, and maybe some of the old places will reopen, but maybe I'm too optimistic. One thing happening is that some of the girls seem to be at 'agencies' that work out of apartments, and move around a bit. There are a few that advertise on Eros, although I haven't tried any. Maybe that's the future.
[QUOTE=Kimchi]My information may or may not appear in print until the actual sentencing is complete. I only reported what was told to me by a person who has intimate knowledge of what was offered at the pre-sentencing trial. If you will read some of my old intelligence reports my info is on the money. I did not mean to cause any debates. What happened has happened and it is old news. What is needed now is good reports on providers, establishments and what is happening in the market place daily. I refer to it as market place only in the sense that it seems better to make it sound like a commodity since it is a money making business. Most of the owners I knew and working girls or going to be gone for about a year or more. That means I need to go back out and start getting known again. This will then bring back good reports since I have not really reported on any new commodities in a year. Reports will soon be coming in again. Go out and find a good commodity and see how it performs.[/QUOTE]
Cece @ the AMP's name I forgot
Last Saturday, as I had to go to DC to waste my dough on Powerball tickets, I decided to make an extended stay in the city and check out what it had to offer.
Now, I don't remember the name of the place which is really screwed up because I have been there dozens of times.... It was across from a really old theater.
Anyway, this is the 2nd time I had seen Cece. I suppose it's because I asked Mamasan for some with tig-ole-bitties and maybe she's the only one there fitting the bill.
Great TS with the proper attention to the front and back; then, back to the room.
Pretty crappy massage... but who cares? Onto a very good BBBJTCWCIM. This is the 2nd time I had this with her and, once again, she seemed surprised that I let loose in her mouth, but each time I gave her ample notice. Maybe she was unaware that I would provide a Peter North mouth-filling deposit!
Anyway, just as the 1st visit, no 2nds were offered. But, as I have been paying $$$/hour to providers who advertise on the net, my CPP (cost per pop) is about the same. Although I would have loved a 2nd pop, I accepted my fate and left pretty damn happy.
Be good and have fun.
Van
"Kay" from that place on Fl3 next to King Arthur's
It started out good but turned out to be a quick exit.
It'd been a while so I went out to the Little River Spa first. Never been there, Virginia usually sux but figured I'd give it a try anyhoo. Sometimes you can get a deal.
Walk in, middle aged, not particularly attractive lady answers and walks me to a room. Figured if she'd be willing to give me a BBBJWCSIMCWS it'd be worth the trip.
I ask for it she says no way. I asked for a hj she said no but gave me her hand. I put it where it needed to be and said I'd be willing to forego the shower, massage and all the rest of the bs if she'd just provide some conversation, again the response was no way.
At that point I would've settled for an hj w/o clothes (which is definitely doable in Virginia) but she refused to take off anything. Just jumped on the table and started with the oil on the johnson.
I said forget this, and cancelled the work order.
So on to DC
I had several good times at this place but the last few times were forgettable. Very forgettable. I figured I'd give it a try, oily dick and all.
Key opens the door and she seems like a real ****. Grabs my crotch almost immediately after I walk in. Chunky, heavy makeup but with her attitude I figured this could be a good thing. She asked for the tip upfront but when she came in she started with the hj. I'm like whoa wait a minute. As I was removing her hand it was almost like she was desperately trying to get me off so she could say the deal was complete.
Not this vet.
I told her what I wanted, she wanted more $, considering the change in attitude and the fact that the puss didn't look that good (hair trimmed too short for my taste and kid of fat) I cancelled that transaction as well.
So leaving I thought to myself, I just had two chicks touch my bacon torpedo and I still have my 140 (I never pay 160, I always negotiate the price down otherwise these unscrupulous ppl just keep jacking up the prices)
the only problem now is that I'm carrying around this unspent manhood as we speak
