"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Tc9869;3126513]Two and a half weeks ago I met a wonderful girl on SA. The date seemed to go really well. I got a little concerned when she mentioned she joined the site because of a friend who does all online arrangements, and then her saying she'd need time to get comfortable with being intimate, but she ultimately agreed to the "sugar for sugar" concept and said she'd wait for an allowance until getting physical. The following weekend she had an art show, so we did some light texting throughout the week but that was it.

That Thursday I asked when I could see her again, and she responded "to be honest I don't think SA is for me, I'm looking for a means for fun and aid in expenses, but not necessarily 'prostitute' LOL".

I responded "alright".

She came back with "I enjoyed meeting you, though. Thanks for the experience LOL".

"LOL. I enjoyed meeting you too. Wish things had been different haha. You're really nice and possibly the most beautiful girl I've seen on there: D".

"You were a nice guy too. I lucked out meeting you on the first try haha. Perhaps give me a few days to think about my moral standing? LOL".

"LOL, sure. For what it's worth, I don't think of you that way at all. And I meant what I said about taking it as slow as you want".

"Well thanks".

I didn't text again until she was at the art gallery showing pieces. I engaged in a normal friendly manner (asking for pics of her art she was selling, she's really good). She randomly injected into the conversation she was having her birth control shot the following week. I asked if that meant I got to see her again, and she said she hoped so. I asked if she wanted to just grab lunch and then take it from there and she responded with "not saying we have to do this Saturday, but I've been craving a swimming pool lately. It would be fun to get a hotel and get tipsy in the tub LOL".

"LOL does that mean what I think it means? ".

"oh daddy, indeed it does".

Point of this part was basically to show 1) playing the nice guy can absolutely work and 2) give you an idea what her demeanor has been like. Now is where I'm unsure how to proceed.

She had to cancel that Saturday for a funeral. We rescheduled for today. I noticed last night she blocked my main account on Facebook (seemed odd, as I'd never sent a friends request or anything). From a second account, I saw she is now in a relationship as of three days ago. Seems reasonable to suspect this relationship was the actual reason for the cancellation Saturday. I've never had a SB with a boyfriend, and I'm not sure if / how I should proceed. Many of you mention not seeing a SB if she's not exclusive, but I've also seen the idea of being accepting of her having a bf because it shows confidence etc. However, I can't even inquire without making it obvious I was snooping. I'm absolutely going to proceed with today because she's fun and extremely sexy (does some light modeling etc. , very skinny with a C cup), but I'd like this to be a regular thing (maybe 3-4 times a month) and I'm tempted to say giving away I was snooping or mentioning I know what she's trying to hide is just going to cause an issue and push her away. In reality I have no misconceptions of her leaving her bf for a sd or money, but I'm really more concerned with her keeping secrets from me.[/QUOTE]Keep it simple bud.

We pay, or gift, a hot young babe so that we have access to her body and all her holes.

If you're looking for a girlfriend, the bowl is not the place to look.

See her, fuck her good, and get back to your life and she goes back to hers.

Hi,

I have been a long time silence reader of this forum. I have been in the bowl for over two years now and found two young girls that I stuck with for a long time. I have recently moved to Austin and have been lining up a few 'prospects' in that area for a few meetups next week. I haven't discussed about 'sugar' with anyone yet nor did they bring it up yet. Does anyone have any experience at this location? Trying to get an idea on the normal expectations on sugar since this place is more expensive than where I was before. Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;3124892]In my perusing of Tinder and CL I've run across the scam of sending you to a verification site a bunch of times. This was the first time I've seen it on SA and seemed to be for SA's background verification. There were several strange things about her profile. Her ethnicity was listed as Native American, but her pic is a pale white blonde. Her profile talks about looking for a long term relationship, but her first message is asking me to get together to be an "nsa sex buddy" at a luxury hotel she's staying at. That's always a red flag for a scammer. The 3rd tip off is that her grammar was just a touch awkward with strange phrasing of things. Anyway, she of course says to meet I have to get SA's LDS (Local Discreet Stamp of SA). I do notice that SA's background check is with a 3rd party company. Perhaps that company is placing false profiles to scam people into the service.

Good hunting,

Travelin.[/QUOTE]I am not dealing with similar situation on SD4 ME. Interestingly, she is also a Native American. She didn't ask me to verify on any site, but she wants to know full name, where I live etc. Her grammar is also a little weird. Not sure if we are dealing with the same girl. If I were to believe the pics she sent me, she has a banging body with nice bolt-ons.

I found this on another city's SB thread. I hope I know how to post it. Anyway. What's your idea about blocking on SA someone you have started communicating w / outside? I have posted before about using favoriting to keep track of girls. Today I happened on the profile of my newest baby, and I see she hasn't been on SA in 2 weeks. Aahh!

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?12509-Seeking-Arrangements-[/URL](SA)&p=3127507&viewfull=1#post3127507.

[QUOTE=Tc9869;3127451]
Not sure I care, I'm not looking for a serious relationship and the body / sex is unbelievable, [b]I just wish she'd be honest.[/b]


[b]Still not sure how I feel about her seeing another guy and lying to my face about it,[/b] but I think at the end of the day as long as I'm satisfied with our time together I should probably just ignore it.

[/QUOTE]Er, give yer head a shake! Sure any girl is going to "lie" about aspects of her life. Have you given her your real name, real address, real phone number, real place of work, etc. ? If not you are doing the male double standard thing. But it doesn't matter.

As OP have pointed out below, just assume the girl is dating / F*cking other dudes or hooking up at the bars on the weekends. What the heck do you care? Don't be one of those dudes that want to "control" their SBs and define what they can and can't do. Those dudes ought to get married!

So yeah, as long as the sex is great, the drama low and she's not all up in yer bidness, let her private life go.

Look, I think a word should be said about "snooping" on FB. The only reason to do that is to make sure she isn't a druggie, jail bird, wacko or something potentially dangerous. That is it! Period! But guys look at the whole picture and then get critical of what they are finding. I know I use to do that. However, This ain't dating & marriage: it is just about F*cking! All you need to know is that she ain't gunna rob you, hurt you or try to show up at your place of work. The rest of what you "need to know" about her you should get from talking to her!

It took me a while to "compartmentalize" between passion with SBs and passion with SOs. You draw bounds to keep the SB out of the SO world and vice versa. But it took me a while to realize that I need to quit applying "GF" standards to a SB. That relationship is about sex and all I care about a SB is anything that effects her ability to show up, get naked and give me the time of my life. When I'm out of that world THEN I can be critical if a girl is trustworthy, honest, etc as it might pertain to a LTR. But also found I don't need to mix the standards.

[I]Off the soap box[/I]

I haven't seen this issue addressed directly. What should my status be on SA once I have reached an arrangement w / a SB? And, I guess, what should she do or what should I ask of her? My first one specifically wanted an exclusive, which I heard as she to me, but there was likely a reciprocal expectation from her of me. I mostly kept my profile deactivated on SA, but occasionally would get on, message some girls, provide my contact info, and deactivate again. I kept the profile hidden from searches, as that gets you all kinds of time-wasting contacts. Only those girls I messaged or favorited would have a way to find me. I just got into a new arrangement and am deactivated, and saw today that my baby hasn't been on SA for 2 weeks.

I tried to post here from another city's thread about the idea of blocking a girl on SA as soon as you have an external means of communicating w / her (email, text). Don't know if that post will come up, but perhaps you can find it over there if not. The poster's rationale was that he didn't want her keeping track of him and his activities, he wanted to be able to control the info she had. If I did that to my baby, she might be offended, though, right?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3128488]I haven't seen this issue addressed directly. What should my status be on SA once I have reached an arrangement w / a SB? And, I guess, what should she do or what should I ask of her? My first one specifically wanted an exclusive, which I heard as she to me, but there was likely a reciprocal expectation from her of me. I mostly kept my profile deactivated on SA, but occasionally would get on, message some girls, provide my contact info, and deactivate again. I kept the profile hidden from searches, as that gets you all kinds of time-wasting contacts. Only those girls I messaged or favorited would have a way to find me. I just got into a new arrangement and am deactivated, and saw today that my baby hasn't been on SA for 2 weeks.

I tried to post here from another city's thread about the idea of blocking a girl on SA as soon as you have an external means of communicating w / her (email, text). Don't know if that post will come up, but perhaps you can find it over there if not. The poster's rationale was that he didn't want her keeping track of him and his activities, he wanted to be able to control the info she had. If I did that to my baby, she might be offended, though, right?[/QUOTE]If you deactivate your profile a girl can't see your info till its active again. So you play this cat mouse game but what good is it doing you if they can't see your profile for whatever period your deactivated.

[QUOTE=Tc9869;3127451]...as much as I like variety this one plus my girlfriend are going to eat all my time away from the wife.[/QUOTE]SB, plus girlfriend, plus wife? Dude, when do you sleep? J / k. Enjoy it while you can. I'm jealous because at my age, if I can pop the cork once a week, I consider it a very good week, LOL.

Is there a way to construct a link to one's SA profile to allow a POT to pull it up without having to sign up?

[QUOTE=Assaholic;3128784]Is there a way to construct a link to one's SA profile to allow a POT to pull it up without having to sign up?[/QUOTE]Why? If your talking to someone you should be able to seal the deal if she is considering it. I don't undetstand what viewing a profile is going to accomplish if your already talking.

Every major city has an Asian population, which means there will be rooms for karaoke. You pay by the hour. The rooms have big couches, tvs, and loud sound systems. Most also serve food and drinks. Take your baby out to one of these places. Instant date and fc.

If you haven't been to one, make friends with someone who is asian. They can show you the ropes.

My sublease office spot just came to an end. Got caught in the act after hours. Back to hotels.com and public sex until I can figure out a new cost effective fc.

[QUOTE=BikeRider;3126647]I posted a while ago about a new app Beewake that let people book hotel rooms by the hour.

It now has a web interface as well. I did some searching earlier today to see availability. They had rooms in NY, Chicago, and San Fran. None of the available rooms were the Ritz, but in NY they had an Aloft in the financial district. Surprisingly they had nothing in LA, or DC.

They definitely seem to be growing so let's hope they get coverage in more locales soon![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3128179]I found this on another city's SB thread. I hope I know how to post it. Anyway. What's your idea about blocking on SA someone you have started communicating w / outside? I have posted before about using favoriting to keep track of girls. Today I happened on the profile of my newest baby, and I see she hasn't been on SA in 2 weeks. Aahh!

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?12509-Seeking-Arrangements-[/URL](SA)&p=3127507&viewfull=1#post3127507.[/QUOTE]If you block someone, your profile is still visible to other sbs / pots. This presents a problem since many of these sbs / pots have friends in the bowl. If a friend of hers is tracking you, or if she has an alternate hidden profile she's using to keep tabs on you, you may need to explain why you blocked her.

I have enough trouble covering my tracks with my SO. I am more honest with my sbs with regard to other babies, but only if they ask or want to be exclusive. Besides, when they ask you to be exclusive, it provides you with leverage to lower the sugar, but that assumes you would want exclusivity.

[QUOTE=Assaholic;3128784]Is there a way to construct a link to one's SA profile to allow a POT to pull it up without having to sign up?[/QUOTE]I don't think so. If that were possible w / a hot link, then all of the other things we don't want on the site (reverse image searching, for example) would also be true. What I have been doing, b / c I don't want to have my profile up on SA (either b / c I just want to be super safe regarding the SO, or b / c I have a SB I don't want to see it), is to print a PDF of my profile and send it to them by email. That's an excuse to get their emails too.

A while back I posted about two young women who approached me 'civi' and seemed very positive and interested. There was a lot of debate on the thread about the wisdom of my trying to turn them into SBs. I got this msg from one in response to a very innocent, brief inquiry: "yes, we should meet next week for coffee! Just let me know, I would love to chat.)!

Coached by one of my bowl brothers, JoyDrop, the importance of texting to this generation (and the type of texting) has been impressed on me. I am paying attention to that w / my current baby, but thought I would try it with this girl also, so I gave her my sugar #. We M&G today.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3128550]If you deactivate your profile a girl can't see your info till its active again. So you play this cat mouse game but what good is it doing you if they can't see your profile for whatever period your deactivated.[/QUOTE]Indeed, this is true. I was selective with those I contacted. Ideally, those that were online at that moment, as they could get to my profile then. I could also include a message to them explaining the situation, provide my email and offer to email them the profile. No doubt there were many who just ignored my contact b / c it was too much trouble, but I did get some POTs in this way. Some were negative, some liked the fact I was so UTR, which they presumably were too.