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[QUOTE=NewtonBomb;5137120]If I recall the case correctly. They pretty much hung themselves. The provider talked and all the johns talked. At least the ones that got charged. What do you want to bet theses people all showed up without a lawyer and thought they could outsmart a professional investigator. The police can lie to you, tell you that they have evidence that doesn't exist, and get you to hang yourself.[/QUOTE]Hello Mr / Ms Officer! What Happend? Really? Wow! Well, I remember my crazy uncle Leonard with psychotic tendencies borrowed my phone and refused to give it back to me, now I know why. Pretty simple. Be smart, never talk about what may have happend. Your number is public, your phone has a tendency to be borrowed or you have a graphic imagination and thought you were writing the next Leaving Las Vegas. Good luck Gentlemen!
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[QUOTE=NewtonBomb;5137120]If I recall the case correctly. They pretty much hung themselves. The provider talked and all the johns talked. At least the ones that got charged. What do you want to bet theses people all showed up without a lawyer and thought they could outsmart a professional investigator. The police can lie to you, tell you that they have evidence that doesn't exist, and get you to hang yourself.[/QUOTE]Stupidest thing you can do is offer a statement or answer their questions. Charged with misdemeanors. No lawyer needed if you don't cooperate with their investigation. So what if her / his phone has conversation with them. Is the person dead, raped, or beaten then sorry. We were practicing for the next Leaving Las Vegas, coming out in 2025 keep an eye out for it. Thank you! Bye!
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[QUOTE=PNR2004;5137122]Good advice. Where is the best place to buy a burner phone?[/QUOTE]Walmart or Best Buy. I have an el-cheapo Nokia that I bought at Best Buy and I buy minutes from Net 10 at $25/1000 minutes /30 days, no contract. I buy the minutes on-line so I don't know if the same deal is available on the cards in stores.
I had a flip phone before the current one and really liked it. More convenient to flip it open instead of having to push 2 buttons to unlock the screen before any function. And I didn't have to worry as much about damage. Wish I could find another that would take Net10.
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Sorry but no
[QUOTE=BrickForm;5137729]Hello Mr / Ms Officer! What Happend? Really? Wow! Well, I remember my crazy uncle Leonard with psychotic tendencies borrowed my phone and refused to give it back to me, now I know why. Pretty simple. Be smart, never talk about what may have happend. Your number is public, your phone has a tendency to be borrowed or you have a graphic imagination and thought you were writing the next Leaving Las Vegas. Good luck Gentlemen![/QUOTE]The minute you offer a statement, especially if the statement is a lie, they got you. Lying to lLE is a crime, and if they don't like you or think you are making fun of them or if their ego gets bruised, there are cops that will use all of their investigative powers and try to hem you up. None of the money they will spend to mess with you will come out of their pocket. Don't talk to cops without a lawyer present, and please don't lie to them.
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[QUOTE=NewtonBomb;5138257]The minute you offer a statement, especially if the statement is a lie, they got you. Lying to lLE is a crime, and if they don't like you or think you are making fun of them or if their ego gets bruised, there are cops that will use all of their investigative powers and try to hem you up. None of the money they will spend to mess with you will come out of their pocket. Don't talk to cops without a lawyer present, and please don't lie to them.[/QUOTE]If you are in a room with cops, no statements or talking without lawyer period, in agreement. If they call you and ask about something about a text message about prostitution and happen to use your real day to day phone, like I said you were writing and talking with imaginative powers and thought she was collaborating on a new movie script or at the time the phone wasn't with you. Or simply I don't recall. I am sorry but cops can't go around and bust people on text messages for prostitution, unless you admit you wrote and intended to trade money for sex.
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Burner
[QUOTE=JohneDrama;5137322]Have a different risk. Try explaining to your wifey why you have a 2nd phone hidden.[/QUOTE]Just don't mention the burner before you have surgery Walter. I've been using a burner since I started, so I don't get caught from the SO. From outside investigation I have broken the rules as far as connecting between accounts, etc. Depending what the investigation is for even if you pay everything with cash they can still put your picture from the checkout on the 5 o'clock news unless you buy your minutes wearing a 10 gallon hat. They link the burner phone with minutes bought and check out register cameras. Not that they would go that far for prostitution.
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[QUOTE=MilwaukeeGuyy;5137672]Midpoint is still there, just down the road maybe half a mile. Sucks getting burned for 3, but you made it home.[/QUOTE]When I google search Midpoint Hotel the google images show the same place I was at that is now called Port Motel oddly enough.
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Minutes
[QUOTE=DieselMike;5137860]Walmart or Best Buy. I have an el-cheapo Nokia that I bought at Best Buy and I buy minutes from Net 10 at $25/1000 minutes /30 days, no contract. I buy the minutes on-line so I don't know if the same deal is available on the cards in stores.
I had a flip phone before the current one and really liked it. More convenient to flip it open instead of having to push 2 buttons to unlock the screen before any function. And I didn't have to worry as much about damage. Wish I could find another that would take Net10.[/QUOTE]Hey DM. You may want to use a little more caution when purchasing your minutes. If you purchase them online, you will leave a credit card trail. You can go into WalMart and buy cards with cash to load into your phone. I know that someone will say that they can track the card purchase back to the store and probably pull up a picture of you buying the cards. I'd seriously doubt that they would dig that deep unless there was a murder involved.
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Looks like she has returned on STG.
[QUOTE=CoochieEater;4661002]She's as cute as a button. (God I must be old. Does anyone say that anymore?) Digits for seniors / Sharers.
Coochie (Still eatin') Eater.
God Bless You All.[/QUOTE]
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Mid Point
[QUOTE=LionWarrior;5138532]When I google search Midpoint Hotel the google images show the same place I was at that is now called Port Motel oddly enough.[/QUOTE]Understand the confusion. A search on maps. [URL]google.com[/URL] shows the motels located as they actually are: Port south of SS and Mid Point north of SS. Addresses are "West Appleton Ave. " which makes it even more confusing considering that SS runs E-W and Appleton is pretty much north-S.
Both places look rather placid during the day. I had occasion to go to Mid Point late hours on a summer night to rescue a girl. HOLY SHIT MOTHER OF GOD WHAT A SCENE! Place was like an anthill with activity. Looked like something from "Cops" or "Live PD". People, cars, guys standing around outside on their phones. All AA, of course, and here's Old White Guy, way out of his element. AA dude pulls up next to my "poised for exit" car and asks what I'm doing there. Engaged him in some polite ghetto trash talk, got asked if I was looking for drugs or pussy. Just told him that I was taking care of some personal business. Very glad to exfil from that site!
Had occasion to talk to a cop at the local precinct and could practically see the eyes get wide over the phone when I told him I had been to Mid Point. They know exactly what goes on there and I got the impression that they leave it alone unless they have to go there for a murder or something. Wow!
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[QUOTE=DomCorazon;5138504]Just don't mention the burner before you have surgery Walter. I've been using a burner since I started, so I don't get caught from the SO. From outside investigation I have broken the rules as far as connecting between accounts, etc. Depending what the investigation is for even if you pay everything with cash they can still put your picture from the checkout on the 5 o'clock news unless you buy your minutes wearing a 10 gallon hat. They link the burner phone with minutes bought and check out register cameras. Not that they would go that far for prostitution.[/QUOTE]One upside to the covid mask thing!
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Dodged that bullet
As I recall in order to see her you had to send her a face picture of yourself, holding a piece of paper with a phone number. She was also caught with $100,000+ cash in the house. Lived in half a duplex across from a school. They made it pretty easy. No thank you, ma'am.
[QUOTE=MkePlayer;5137075]I agree that merely having a phone no in her phone proves nothing. The idea they have to "catch you in the act" is demonstrably false. This has been mentioned a few times before, but in the somewhat famous Beaver Dam case a few years ago they charged the gal with 29 misdemeanor counts and 3 felonies, and charged 12 or 14 men (I forget the exact number) with 29 matching misdemeanor counts, ALL based on phone, computer and written records, and ALL for things that took place 1-3 years previously. Everyone plead guilty. Furthermore, for almost all police stings, there is no "act". Its all charged based on agreeing to pay for a sex act, no act necessary.
I know some guys get annoyed when a provider won't tell exactly what she'll do and for how much prior to meeting. However frustrating that is, it can be a legitimate effort to not say something that could trigger charges if the communication every falls into the hands of LE. You are similarly putting yourself at increased risk by having that kind of conversation.
Gals or guys who keep communications on their phones or computers instead of routinely deleting them are also at increased risk, though a really determined LE can sometimes recover deleted items. In the Beaver Dam case they sent the computers to the state crime lab for forensic analysis and subpoenaed the full email history from google gmail.[/QUOTE]
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Beaver Dam
[QUOTE=NewtonBomb;5137120]If I recall the case correctly. They pretty much hung themselves. The provider talked and all the johns talked. At least the ones that got charged. What do you want to bet theses people all showed up without a lawyer and thought they could outsmart a professional investigator. The police can lie to you, tell you that they have evidence that doesn't exist, and get you to hang yourself.[/QUOTE]If I remember correct that was a bit different and not that difficult for the bust. With that couple they required a personal picture holding a piece of paper with the date and they kept "meticulous records".
A small part from the article to show how the men got caught, charged. Police discovered a safe inside a bedroom closet filled with envelopes of cash, each envelope marked with a date. During the search, police also uncovered more containers filled with cash along with a ledger filled with details including customer names, dates of service, amount of payment and personal notations for special costumes and sexual acts, according to the complaint.
A link to the newspaper report in case you never saw it or curious.
[URL]https://www.fdlreporter.com/story/news/local/2014/09/04/charges-filed-alleged-dodge-county-prostitution-ring/15075393/[/URL]
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Wrong Thread Section?
[QUOTE=LoveSmallPerky;5139183]If I remember correct that was a bit different and not that difficult for the bust. With that couple they required a personal picture holding a piece of paper with the date and they kept "meticulous records".
A small part from the article to show how the men got caught, charged. Police discovered a safe inside a bedroom closet filled with envelopes of cash, each envelope marked with a date. During the search, police also uncovered more containers filled with cash along with a ledger filled with details including customer names, dates of service, amount of payment and personal notations for special costumes and sexual acts, according to the complaint.
A link to the newspaper report in case you never saw it or curious.
[URL]https://www.fdlreporter.com/story/news/local/2014/09/04/charges-filed-alleged-dodge-county-prostitution-ring/15075393/[/URL][/QUOTE]Granted this is all important info that we all should hear and know, shouldn't this be in the general reports, alerts, or whatever the fuck sections? I'm here to find overpriced mediocre hookers who will touch my tiny dick.
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Basically the same
[QUOTE=LionWarrior;5138532]When I google search Midpoint Hotel the google images show the same place I was at that is now called Port Motel oddly enough.[/QUOTE]They look almost identical, LOL. They are basically the same place.