Massage Parlor Reports

Papa,

Do you know which are the "generic","untraceable" brands of pre-paid cards?

Thanks,

Dirty

[QUOTE=Papa Rotzi;1732819]This is no harder for LE to do on a registered pre-paid card than with a normal credit card. After all these are still co-branded Visa, Mastercard and AMEX cards. Very easy to grab personal info (if it's there, because you registered it so you can do reloads). And then LE drops by your home or office. The card / account gives up the reloads AND also ALL of the transactions: Where, When, How much. Same as a credit card. The ONLY way to avoid this data trail is to toss a pre-paid after it's initial load is used up and buy a new one. More expensive? Yes. Untraceable? Ditto. I have had conversations with D E A, F B I and H o m e l a n d S e c u r i t y and trust me: They HATE pre-paid cards for a reason.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy; 1733005]Papa,

Do you know which are the "generic","untraceable" brands of pre-paid cards?

Thanks,

Dirty[/QUOTE]I literally just bought one at WALMART to do an online purchase I didn't want use my CC for. They cost 3 bucks at a Walmart Money center which is upfront by customer service. Just don't register the card. You can go online and they will send you a card with your name on it but they want ALL your info including SS number. You can however buy it and use it without doing all that. Works fine as I have used them alot for little things and for 3 bucks it can be worth it. If you have any more questions you can PM me about them.

[QUOTE=Papa Rotzi;1732819]This is no harder for LE to do on a registered pre-paid card than with a normal credit card. After all these are still co-branded Visa, Mastercard and AMEX cards. Very easy to grab personal info (if it's there, because you registered it so you can do reloads). And then LE drops by your home or office. The card / account gives up the reloads AND also ALL of the transactions: Where, When, How much. Same as a credit card. The ONLY way to avoid this data trail is to toss a pre-paid after it's initial load is used up and buy a new one. More expensive? Yes. Untraceable? Ditto. I have had conversations with D E A, F B I and H o m e l a n d S e c u r i t y and trust me: They HATE pre-paid cards for a reason.[/QUOTE]I go so far as to have someone else buy these for me, and the prepaid phone that I use to contact the ladies. Not that I am paranoid, but everywhere has a camera on you when you buy these things and believe me face recognition truely works. I am not sure Scottsdale or Phx would go that far, but back east the FBI and locals did a five state bust on the shops that move these girls around.

The ones I give my number to is the prepaid, and same one I put their numbers in.

Hey we all have some special girls number. I still call Lowsa from ANFU and she has been from Cali, to Deleware to Hawaii since ANFU. I just stay in touch because when this talent comes back to valley I want to be first in line.

ANY pre-paid brand card, where you load money on it at the register when you are buying the card, are not initially traceable. What happens (usually) is that in order to "reload" the card after the initial purchase / use, you will need to go and "register" the card with your name, address, etc. I know this is a fact if reloading with a check; not sure about if you reload with more cash, but I think that's the case with cash reload as well. I will make a few phone calls and update if there are corrections to the above.

I use cash most of the time and have not ventured into the pre-paid world. I'm just aware of the nuances based on my occupation.

UPDATE: I need to clarify that what you need to buy are Branded (e.g. Visa, M/c, AMEX) GIFT Cards. Those can typically be loaded up with up to $500 and they are used exactly like a credit or debit card. Use them and toss them once depleted. If you by a "Pre-Paid credit card" you will need to register the card BEFORE you can even use it. Check the packaging that the card is secured in to confirm what you are buying - or ask the cashier as you are checking out.

As to WHY you might use one? Many folks do not like to walk around with that much cash in their pockets all the time; especially if you have a nosey spouse. A Visa card doesn't display how much is available, but $500 in cash sitting on the dresser might create a few questions.

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy; 1733005]Papa,

Do you know which are the "generic","untraceable" brands of pre-paid cards?

Thanks,

Dirty[/QUOTE]

I don't get the logic to use a prepaid at an AMP. Why would you use a prepaid card in lieu of cash at an AMP or any place for that matter, where you can physically exchange "currency". Cash is king. Further, using a prepaid card (or any plastic. Whether debit card or credit card) at an AMP just makes their life difficult. They have to pay the transaction fees and of course then funds are "on the books" for tax purposes and finally, it is just a traceable form of proof that a transaction took place. None of these are good for them (nor you).

I can understand using a prepaid card for on-line / internet transactions at "questionable" web sites. I've done precisely this several times to purchase my "wang firming" drugs from an Indian pharmacy online. I don't want my credit card out there exposed to fraud (even though you are still only liable for 50$ max by law I'm pretty sure. Often bank policy is 0$ liability).

Bottom line, use cash locally. Use prepaid card online if you want identity and fraud safety.

Shawn,

Thanks, that is helpful info.

Papa,

Don't need to reload. Like you said, as soon as the amount is depleted, I'll just throw it away.

And, it's not a gift card I want, I want the debit card. I found that gift cards, purchased with a credit card, are considered a cash advance, but that a pre-paid debit card is considered a purchase. MUCH higher interest rate with a cash advance.

Thanks for the help, Bud.

Tivo,

Who said anything about using it at an AMP? That's ALWAYS cash.

Thanks guys,

Dirty

I went to an old ATF, Mya called her and someone else answered and book my appt. No big deal, but when I showed up I saw it was that old lady "Gina". She told me to follow her, I asked about Mya and said yes you'll be seen her. Showed me to a room and asked for donation, I was like that's new, and asked how long I'm staying. Had a bad feeling and should've left. But paid my normal fee for 15 min. I waited almost 25 minutes then Mya came in and was buisness like from the start. We had been becoming quite Familiar and friendly over past sessions and I felt she was a real keeper. But this time was all buisness started quick HJ and felt good but very rushed. Told her I wanted more but she just went along like I didn't say anything. I knew it was going to be HJ only, And let go but was very unhappy to say the least.

It was weird, I've been going there for the past year and almost always left happy and Satisfied. I noticed that the few times I left unhappy was when Gina is around, maybe she is just the one pushing for quick releases and more business. Idk but not going back for a long time or never again. Had some great times with Mya. Oh we'll I've been doing some hunting on the streets like the old days and meet some great new regulars on BP also.

[QUOTE=NumberOnePerve; 1731476]Warning to all my other monger friends. Trust me this comes from a very good source inside LE.

Scottdale PD and Phx PD have been working together for several years and I guess due to budget restrictions or maybe they get spotted too easy because the only talk and don't expose themselves because of entrapment laws, they have now started an active credit card search of massage parlors.

In the one I know about, Massage Body Works on Shoen in Scottsdale, they pulled the credit card reciepts and found a. 4 charge for massage and. 6 for tip.

Long and short, they went to guys house, he fessed up and now girl got arrested and he is forced to testify or gets charged. Don't know about you but I don't want LE knocking on my door and asking the little woman if they can talk to me.

Some of these guys are just doing a job, others get their nut jamming you up. Most vice cops thinks this is funny shit and enjoy telling stories of how stupid some of the girls and we are.

Several reasons not to use a credit card.) the girls learn your real name. 2.) If you tip more than massage or equal to the cops are not stupid.

I am not new to this game, and am sure most of you don't need to read this message. Just an FYI what Scottsdale and Phx have teamed up to do.

Hey I'm not paranoid, but I don't park infront either.

A few people know me on this board even though I am new to posting.

I hope I have contributed something worth while other than another good place to hit.

A better name for me would be Torpedodude, has surfaced again.[/QUOTE]So basically Scottsdale is using credit cards receipts to chase mongers? This seems odd since it would not seem likely that an overly large tip would not be probable cause to harass someone, let alone to stick in court. Wouldn't they have to bust the place to get their records and I think they would need a warrant to do that. Also what guy is going to admit he left a big tip because he committed an illegal act? Furthermore why would anyone use any kind of credit card, it's not like you are renting a car. Cash for the most part is untraceable unless the SPD is going to call forensics to check it for fingerprints. Not only do I not want any LE having a paper trail, I don't want the people running the place knowing my name. I live in Chicago and visit Scottsdale frequently and believe me LE here is way harder on the massage shops here than LE in the PHX area, based on my opinion of reading the two boards and visiting PHX area. Getting extra service in Illinois requires more persistence and patience and finally when you have found a decent place, the cops are busting it for either prostitution or some code violation. They never arrest the mongers, too costly and to hard to make stick. I can only think of one occasion in the last 15 years where they arrested two customers, but in this case it was a long and costly sting operation, in general they just keep sending in cops, until one of the ladies makes a mistake then BAM. Or they send in inspectors to find building code violations. When I am out in the PHX area the women are less aprehensive about making it known that more than a massage is offered and per capita there are way more massage places than in the Chicagoland area, so if PHX / SPD LE thinks it is major scourge the way they do in IL, then I think there would be a lot fewer in PHX area. If LE wanted these places closed they would find away to shut the majority of them down without chasing mongers all around the valley to find out why they are such great tippers. This does not mean you should not take precautions in your beautiful state, I basically follow these rules everywhere.

1. Always pay with cash to avoid leaving a paper trial and to protect your identity.

2. Bring in only the most you plan to spend in cash and leave your wallet locked and hidden in your car.

3. Avoid parking in front, this is a hobby of discretion.

4. If by the unlikely chance you are there when a raid happens, do not admit to any illegal act or intention, even if LE catches you in the act, which would be unlikely unless you and her were both deaf. The police are there to make arrests, they are not going to cut you a break no matter how honest and nice you are. Most people think that if they straight with LE, that they will get some slap on the hand and a boys will be boys attitude. Big mistake.

So all of that being said. Do not get paranoid but keep in mind even though you think what you are doing is harmless is between two adults, LE does not see it that way. So don't make yourself an easy target.

Good and safe hunting to all you seniors and soon to be seniors.

[QUOTE=Cracker;1736255]So basically Scottsdale is using credit cards receipts to chase mongers? This seems odd since it would not seem likely that an overly large tip would not be probable cause to harass someone, let alone to stick in court.[/QUOTE]No this is not the purpose. If this report is true, it is not probably cause to arrest but you do not need probably cause to harass!

How they have gotten clients to infiltrate referral sites etc is contact the customer and ask about the charge and scare the guy (maybe in front of his wife) to testify against the massage / escort / website assuring him he will not be charged.

In Chicago are they charging massage places with FELONES? They do in Phoenix, and owners have gone to prison (and one committed suicide just before sentencing) In Phoenix if its a massage parlor, independent escort with another, agency (few left) or the Phoenix Goddess Temple its a criminal enterprise felony and every credit card or cash tracked (if records kept) is a money laundering felony. And the charges are tiered which results in the threat of 10++ years in prison if they don't take a plea agreement (lifetime felon but with 12-18 months probation usually).

Even worse, Phoenix (and other cities) can arrest especially escorts with no contact simply because of words on websites I. E. GFE or worse. Solicitation is the same as prostitution in Arizona an if two or more gathered can go after criminal enterprise felonies.

They seem to do this often with the various roundups like R. O. S. E, take them to the Church for rehab stings or with the joint FBI taskforce that does the periodic multi-city stings in many USA cities.

These are great publicity gimmicks that raise millions of dollars of donations to "rescue" groups, police grants etc for "trafficking" They use the child excuse but almost all arrests are private consenting adults.

The gal takes 99. 9% the risk, as there have been no prosecutions for years as far as I know for just customers. But they can be intimataded into turning on gals to based on the threat to have to save themselves.

The stings are not all the time and with the huge number of folks in Arizona the risk to any one gal is low. However felony records and a nightmare has been had for those caught up in the sting. The Last R. O. S. E operation caught 76 gals. The police have pictures and ads in police cars to I'd and often posts from review boards. One in particular. Not this one.

Paid a visit to 4seasons. Wish I would have stayed home. Greeted by a half asian with a nice rack. Paid the 50, got a decent rubdown but only 20 minutes of it. , no table shower. Told it was broke (after I paid). Anyways, she quoted $$ for everything, and HARD negotiated to 120. She took the money out, came back in nekkid. Wow for the bod.

Anyways slipped a cover on and laid flat, I moved for a BJ and she giggled and said no. I was like, WTF. You said everything? She goes, no and points to the vag. Pissed I go On and went to play with the kitty to get myself going and again, told no. Whatever, determined to make the most of it, I mount and goto town. Then I go to suck on some titty, told No louder. Then somebody knocks and yells some unintelligible shit. She pushes up and lets some older gal in, and I'm told to leave.

I'm done with the AMPs burned way to much.

Staying in Scottsdale, looking for a FS AMP, preferably not Chinese or Korean, maybe something a little different out here. Any suggestions? I'd be happy to make recommendations in NYC. BBBJCIM / rimming.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mwolf; 1737971]Staying in Scottsdale, looking for a FS AMP, preferably not Chinese or Korean, maybe something a little different out here. Any suggestions? I'd be happy to make recommendations in NYC. BBBJCIM / rimming.

Thanks[/QUOTE]You can try USA spa is you like thick Latinas.

[QUOTE=Butter3592;1738238]You can try USA spa is you like thick Latinas.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Umm, how thick? And what is the expected $$$?

This thread is much more interactive than NYC. It's a pleasure to see.

I saw a mention earlier of Vietnamese, Thai and Filipinas. Any of those around? Under 40, preferably.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mwolf; 1738411]Thanks for the info. Umm, how thick? And what is the expected $$$?

This thread is much more interactive than NYC. It's a pleasure to see.

I saw a mention earlier of Vietnamese, Thai and Filipinas. Any of those around? Under 40, preferably.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I don't know anything of the MP scene here, but am curious of West Garden in NYC is still operating? That place was heavenly, even though limited menu! My first AMP experience many moons ago.

[QUOTE=Mwolf; 1738411]Thanks for the info. Umm, how thick? And what is the expected $$$?

This thread is much more interactive than NYC. It's a pleasure to see.

I saw a mention earlier of Vietnamese, Thai and Filipinas. Any of those around? Under 40, preferably.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Mya from USA Spa is who he was referring to. Just search for Mya on backpage. $ for half FLAT. Worth the trip- just don't bother with any others that may be there- Mya is the only one to see.

[QUOTE=RyansWill;1738674]I don't know anything of the MP scene here, but am curious of West Garden in NYC is still operating? That place was heavenly, even though limited menu! My first AMP experience many moons ago.[/QUOTE]They have been many a man's first AMP experience. As close as you can get to the McDonald's of AMPs. I don't know if they are still open, but if they are, I understand the lease is not going to be renewed. Incredibly, I've never been there.

Looked at Mya's ad, too big for me. Staying near old town (?) , must be something around here.

Ryan,

You do know that there is a New York board, don't you?

Dirty

[QUOTE=RyansWill;1738674]I don't know anything of the MP scene here, but am curious of West Garden in NYC is still operating? That place was heavenly, even though limited menu! My first AMP experience many moons ago.[/QUOTE]

"Staying in Scottsdale, looking for a FS AMP, preferably not Chinese or Korean"

If you take the Chinese and Korean out of the mix, your choices are not too great. Knew a nice Viet woman at the place near 32nd and Thomas, but that was 5+ years ago I'd have to guess that the AMPs are at least 85% Korean or Chinese. Always preferred the Koreans.

Off topic: Anybody have recent info on "June"? I see she sometimes works at Midtown, other times Cleopatra's. I think I recognize her from years ago, maybe at Biltmore Clinic, but am not sure.

Any help?

Thanks

Well I have been in PHX for a month working now and this is my summary on parlors visited;

1- Flamingo IL on Thomas. Dede beautiful gal nice rack and ass- lousy attitude way short on time, totally full of herself, told me I was lucky to be allowed to look at her body, will not repeat.

2-the house on Glendale and 50 ave A Touch of Phoenix? I think that is the name- Jenny laotian young and pretty heavy in the ass and thighs but nice and firm, no table shower unfortunately but got a good massage w / HE 60/60 dress and bra off but panties on quoted me 200 for FS and when I said thats way high she said "young body tight pussy"I.

Would repeat.

3- Red Butterfly Massage no address but it is on 34th ave south of Glendale another Jen again no table shower 'whats with a lack of table showers in Phx I know there are plumbers here' nice tits {be- cup} a little cottage cheese on the belly but nice looking China gal moderatley decent massage 60 house / 100 nude CBJ will not repeat but wasnt bad.

4-Oriental Massage- on 24 ave south of Missouri no tableshower but a small Jacuzzi tub which I liked- Pam older Vietnamese gal, claims 35 but I would add 5-10, chuncky gal but firm and nice, very good massage with lots of play, climbed up on the table with me for as close to a GFE session as I have been able to find in Phx. { swear to god Las Vegas has spoiled me} 60/100 for a good session CBJ, lfk doesn't like fiv but DATY was clean, have repeated and might just repeat tonight!

5- Massage-10 which you all know about beautifull korean gal I think there have been enough reviews on this place.

That sums up a month got a few more days of work left. Any body willing to share a real GFE type massage or escort gal please let me know.

How they have gotten clients to infiltrate referral sites etc is contact the customer and ask about the charge and scare the guy (maybe in front of his wife) to testify against the massage / escort / website assuring him he will not be charged.

Never, never, never "cooperate" or answer LE questions, especially tips you leave on a card. Since when is it illegal to leave a very generous tip

Truly outstanding services? If they tell you that they have you on videotape and if you'll cooperate, they'll be easy on you or let you go,

DON'T BUY IT. THEY ARE LYING TO YOU. It's not against the law to leave big tips. It's not against the law to be stupid with.

Your money. Don't let fear or a guilty conscience cause you serious trouble you don't need. Never, ever admit to anything.

Mongers.

Don't see enough AMP reports, mostly chit chat about prepaid cards and other issues.

Sure would like to see reports about AMPs as opposed to BP experiences.

Just my take on the current reporting.

DN

[QUOTE=Dick North; 1739064]Mongers.

Don't see enough AMP reports, mostly chit chat about prepaid cards and other issues.

Sure would like to see reports about AMPs as opposed to BP experiences.

Just my take on the current reporting.

DN[/QUOTE]Just added 4 reports an hour ago 5:30 I think, don't see them yet.

After all the hoopla about touch, was in the neighbor hood and wanted to to try it out. Parked in the back and was greeted by J. Was shown the room and I got comfortable. Now J walks in and she starts the massage, which I have to say is above average. The leg portion was real good and as I was enjoying myself, She spent the entire time on the massage, came close to the boys a couple of times and knew that I wanted more than a rub, and after my time was up she just said Thank you, had me dress up and ushered me out of the door. When an inquiry was made about extras, she looked confused and said I don't know. Now I am confused.

Did she think I was LE or did I miss the part where a pass phrase was to be used.

[QUOTE=Dick North; 1739064]Mongers.

Don't see enough AMP reports, mostly chit chat about prepaid cards and other issues.

Sure would like to see reports about AMPs as opposed to BP experiences.

Just my take on the current reporting.

DN[/QUOTE]I suggest you join on of the AMP sites for more complete and lengthy descriptions. Fear of LE causes many to be more cautious here.

JMHO, Daz

Busch,

Until you reach senior status, all your reports are monitored by admin prior to posting. There will usually be about a 24 hour delay before your posts show on the board.

Dirty

[QUOTE=Buschman;1739117]Just added 4 reports an hour ago 5:30 I think, don't see them yet.[/QUOTE]

Noble,

Come on guy, you've been around long enough to know that you don't use a pass phrase. While she is doing her rubbing on you, you need to do some rubbing on her too. Ya got to let her know you're friendly! :D

Dirty

[QUOTE=Noblesavage01; 1739372]After all the hoopla about touch, was in the neighbor hood and wanted to to try it out. Parked in the back and was greeted by J. Was shown the room and I got comfortable. Now J walks in and she starts the massage, which I have to say is above average. The leg portion was real good and as I was enjoying myself, She spent the entire time on the massage, came close to the boys a couple of times and knew that I wanted more than a rub, and after my time was up she just said Thank you, had me dress up and ushered me out of the door. When an inquiry was made about extras, she looked confused and said I don't know. Now I am confused.

Did she think I was LE or did I miss the part where a pass phrase was to be used.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy; 1739403]Noble,

Come on guy, you've been around long enough to know that you don't use a pass phrase. While she is doing her rubbing on you, you need to do some rubbing on her too. Ya got to let her know you're friendly! .

Dirty[/QUOTE]But sometimes if they don't take a shine to you or their spidey senses tingle.

4-Oriental Massage- on 24 ave south of Missouri no tableshower but a small Jacuzzi tub which I liked- Pam older Vietnamese gal, claims 35 but I would add 5-10, chuncky gal but firm and nice, very good massage with lots of play, climbed up on the table with me for as close to a GFE session as I have been able to find in Phx. { swear to god Las Vegas has spoiled me} 60/100 for a good session CBJ, lfk doesn't like fiv but DATY was clean, have repeated and might just repeat tonight!

Excellent report! I was surprised about Las Vegas "spoiling" you. I have had nothing but robotic and over priced service there.

Made a visit today and as usual the place was busy. I drew Kandi (sp) but was given the TS by a 'helper' girl. This has happened here before.

Finally Kandi came to the room. Kandi is from China about 5'2", nice natural rack and sweet disposition. Usual routine with all services provided.

60 entry and $.2, but then she wanted. 2 for the 'helper' girl.

I obliged only because I felt the service and provider were exceptional.

Kandi leaves for NYC on the 29th if anyone is interested.

She said she has to move because of 'girl rotation'.

DN

Correction on past post! Oriental is located on 7th ave and last night the service was bad enough I got up got dressed and left. Wound up at Flamingo on Glendale 4900 block and spent an hour with bebe older China gal BJ in the jacuzzi cfs in the massage room and finished with massage. Not much training in the massage dept but I got the full hour plus a little overtime.

One other place I visited was a tender touch on central, Helen, mid twenties China gal, good massage skills, with clothes off CBJ, sweet gal good convo with limited english. 60/80, bebe was 60/150.

I would repeat with both.

[QUOTE=Anotheronedown; 1737093]Paid a visit to 4seasons. Wish I would have stayed home. Greeted by a half asian with a nice rack. Paid the 50, got a decent rubdown but only 20 minutes of it. , no table shower. Told it was broke (after I paid). Anyways, she quoted $$ for everything, and HARD negotiated to 120. She took the money out, came back in nekkid. Wow for the bod.

Anyways slipped a cover on and laid flat, I moved for a BJ and she giggled and said no. I was like, WTF. You said everything? She goes, no and points to the vag. Pissed I go On and went to play with the kitty to get myself going and again, told no. Whatever, determined to make the most of it, I mount and goto town. Then I go to suck on some titty, told No louder. Then somebody knocks and yells some unintelligible shit. She pushes up and lets some older gal in, and I'm told to leave.

I'm done with the AMPs burned way to much.[/QUOTE]I have found that $$ is the norm for full service in many places. I have been to Four Seasons many times. It depends on the girl. But when you push them hard on the price, they are not going to be as eager to oblige you.

I plan on having 250 available when I go to spas, but am aware of the spas and the providers who work for less. If I don't have that much to spend, I go to places or see girls where I know FS will be less.

I agree about AMP's. I get better service from the Latina girls, and have had about an 80% satisfaction rate with them. They are more eager for DATY, and touching. Less bullshit. Again some will take less than $$, some want that much. It just depends on the girl, and the spa.

[QUOTE=Dick North; 1739797]Made a visit today and as usual the place was busy. I drew Kandi (sp) but was given the TS by a 'helper' girl. This has happened here before.

Finally Kandi came to the room. Kandi is from China about 5'2", nice natural rack and sweet disposition. Usual routine with all services provided.

60 entry and $.2, but then she wanted. 2 for the 'helper' girl.

I obliged only because I felt the service and provider were exceptional.

Kandi leaves for NYC on the 29th if anyone is interested.

She said she has to move because of 'girl rotation'.

DN[/QUOTE]I wonder if this is the same Kandi I saw 3-4 weeks ago? Did she have some man made C's? If it is then she was Korean but maybe she said she was Chinese. I spoke Korean to her, that is how I confirmed it. I always say something in the language they say is their mother tongue to see if they are just trying to appease me. I have had girls say they are Thai them I speak to them in Thai and they give me a blank look. I liked Kandi a lot but I didn't haven't ever had a helper at Anfu. It will be a shame to see her go, I think her FS at $ was fairly good.

I wanted to thank the Phoenix board for all of the help, it definitely is a much more active board than the NYC. Unfortunately, I got tied down in business and couldn't shake free at all. I'm pretty disappointed because it looks like there are some great options here. Feel free to contact me for NYC info.

Debated which option to choose from last Friday and chose Cody from Just Relax.

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/cody-stop-click-me-_xx-26/22283304[/url]

Pictures are not accurate, may have been taken awhile back but she is very beautiful in person. Paid and was shown to the room, got undressed and on the table. Massage was short but wasn't bad quality (not just light touch that some places do). Reached under with light touch after about ten minutes, then asked me to flip and negotiated. She wanted $$.5 for everything, I told her I had $$ and she was good with that and we were off to the races. Took off her top to reveal her all-natural DDD's, very very nice. Breast play, CBJ, CG, standing Miss and finished in Missionary. She was very vocal, probably to keep things moving along. Cleaned me up and chatted for awhile, she used to work at 99th and Grand before, got me a business card with her cell number on the back, introduced me to Jessi on my way out (who I knew, she went by Summer at 99th and Grand). They suggested a threesome next time, I would repeat with either of them singly, together might be too much.

Met Sonia tonight at the spa behind Wendys on Scottsdale thick latina with C-titties and a badoga but. Got a h / hr for 40 with a TS which I found unusual as usually you need to purchase an hour to get a TS. Quick rub on the back on the table. You can tell that she has had some training as she did all right. On the flip a little bit of leg rub and then chest rub when she asked me if there was anything else needing massaging whereupon I placed her hand on my johnson. Nice strokes slow and sensual. When I told her I love to kiss pretty women she leaned over and gave me some LFK. Quoted me 120 for a blowjob and I told her that was to much so we proceeded with the handy. Gave her 60 after the deed (which I really like to do I hate having to get up, get the glasses on and find my pants in the middle of the session) cleaned me up a kiss and a hug and I was on my way. This was my first HE with a latina therapist. I will repeat maybe for an hour session.

Allright Gents,

Have to spend the next three weeks in Phx on a corporate exchange thing. Where is the best place for a great massage and great follow up service. Wouldn't mind an independent especially?

D DOg

[QUOTE=Buschman;1744042]Met Sonia Quoted me 120 for a blowjob and I told her that was to much so we proceeded with the handy. Gave her 60 after the deed (which I really like to do I hate having to get up, get the glasses on and find my pants in the middle of the session) cleaned me up a kiss and a hug and I was on my way. This was my first HE with a latina therapist. I will repeat maybe for an hour session.[/QUOTE]In my experience unless the masseuse is top notch with her massage skills, I find paying for more than a half hour not necessary. That extra money could go towards FS, particularly if she has seen you before. Many of my sessions have gone over the 30 minute mark when I pay for a half hour. Most of the Latina girls I have had don't try to rush the sex, or push you away like many of the AMP's I have dealt with.

[QUOTE=Slacker30;1745501]In my experience unless the masseuse is top notch with her massage skills, I find paying for more than a half hour not necessary. That extra money could go towards FS, particularly if she has seen you before. Many of my sessions have gone over the 30 minute mark when I pay for a half hour. Most of the Latina girls I have had don't try to rush the sex, or push you away like many of the AMP's I have dealt with.[/QUOTE]Sonia went ten minutes over on our session! Maybe I will have to switch to the latinas after all. Last night I stopped at four seasons on Glendale Ave and met Jenny / Jenna thick China gal. Overall the session was not bad but not really satisfactory either! She tried to rush me after the HE but I did not let her. Told her I still had ten minutes coming and to work on my scalp or my feet and her reply was: we don't do feet here: WTF. I got the ten minutes but her massage skills are pretty nonexistent one hour session 60/100 for CBJ will not repeat with Jenny.

[QUOTE=NorthScotts2;1740149]I wonder if this is the same Kandi I saw 3-4 weeks ago? Did she have some man made C's? If it is then she was Korean but maybe she said she was Chinese. I spoke Korean to her, that is how I confirmed it. I always say something in the language they say is their mother tongue to see if they are just trying to appease me. I have had girls say they are Thai them I speak to them in Thai and they give me a blank look. I liked Kandi a lot but I didn't haven't ever had a helper at Anfu. It will be a shame to see her go, I think her FS at $ was fairly good.[/QUOTE]That was a girl in training and new to this thing.

Bad thing about Anfu is they do have girls on a circuit and when you find the right one she moves on to NY, Delaware, Hawaii. I have been keeping in touch with one Lousa and she says she will be back Phx someday.

I do worry the feds are going to get Anfu like they did in another sting in the east coast where they busted a five state operation.

I did have the helper experience in a shop in Sun City and not only on the shower but on how to give proper HJ. Only had to give one tip but did increase from .6 to .8 because I am such a kind hearted guy.

Man you have to love the world of beautiful providers over here.

Actually on this trip I am with a Chinese girl I met here three years ago. Even though she is beautiful, does everything for me from dressing me to FS, I still see these hot girls and I want to sneek out for a little side action.

What the hell is wrong with me. I am getting it free, except for my airfare and I want to get some unknown.

I guess that is why I am a level 1 sex addict.

For some of my friends on the site that know me, I did make it, airline lost my luggage after I arrived in Beijing and when I got next city lost it.

I will see all you when I get back and be ready to lose some money to me on the course.
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