[QUOTE=Rafter17;3247258]Does this Kate have a link to her ad, or is she utr?[/QUOTE]Nutbag crazy, IMHO.
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[QUOTE=Rafter17;3247258]Does this Kate have a link to her ad, or is she utr?[/QUOTE]Nutbag crazy, IMHO.
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Well, new to this but want to contribute. Long time in the hobby.
Since my favorite Cougar is not available at the moment (fingers crossed that changes) I decided to get a relaxing massage in Avon. My first visit here.
The massage was very, very nice. Medium pressure how I like. I didn't catch her name, but was tall and nice looking. A little brushing at the end of the massage put a smile on my face and got my hopes up! (I love that unknown when it's the first visit). I left very happy and tipped. 50.
Normally I would only tip. 40 max for this type of service, but she never mentioned tip or anything, so I guess I was in a super generous mood. LOL.
Have fun gents.
[QUOTE=Rafter17;3247258]Does this Kate have a link to her ad, or is she utr?[/QUOTE]If you go see her and call her Kate, she might yank your balls out.
Posted a shorter version in BP advertisers forum, talked to Cougar today, short, very guarded conversation:
Me: hey H_ how you doing?
C: I'm good just walking into the gym.
Me: ok, a lot of people been wondering how you were doing, if you were ok?
C: I'm good, I will talk to you later.
I know it's not much, wish I had more info. Just in case anyone wants to call BullSh*t I did a review on the oThER site, back in 2014, and used to see her every other month. And have had her number since then. No, I will not share in this case, Sorry.
I had asked her one time about her freelancing, why pay the middle man, she said no she was not going to do that. I will try her back in the next week or so.
Hey! If I got her number, was I one of her favorites? Sorry I know I'm an ASS.
[QUOTE=Ceasar160;3246399]Perhaps I was just being light, and trying to have a sense of humor?
As far as being a "true monger" like yourself, I'm sorry that I don't specialize in the same 3 oriental spas as you do. We all have our own desires that in some way sway from one another. While you're probably pretty keen on those spa's, and I'd even consider your advise. I'm fortunate enough to have a job that allows me to travel, and monger all over the country. Sometimes oriental spas, but that's not usually my thing. I typically like independent catches. Just my little amateur opinion. .[/QUOTE]That term has not been used for awhile now. And I've traveled and swayed both ways between the independent catches and the Asian spas across this fruited plains of ours. And found I like the experience of the Asian Spas compared to the independent catches. It's the process of going in, stripping down and wrapping a towel around you while you're escorted to the shower room by your host. You have a short stay in the sauna, while she prepares the shower room, and then lay face down while she washes you and scrubs you all over. Another short stay in the sauna to warm up while she cleans the shower room before taking your hand and leading you back to the room. The lights are low and there is some music playing. You relax back down on the table. Maybe get a little massage before the flip. Or sometimes a little foreplay down your back before flipping for the main course. And you get your choices of whom you want to be with whereas you don't have that with the independent catches.
And that's where the funk and funky can come into play. Never had to worry about that at the spas. It was all about the funky, funky. All that sweat and hot towels. Never got that from an independent. Maybe a chilly babywipe in turn.
Just my Trve Monger opinion based on my years of experience.
[QUOTE=Ebauche;3247210]Technically, "Oriental," when applied to racial descriptions, refers to East Asians (stereotypically thought of as Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mongolian, SE Asians, etc.), whereas "Asian" is a much broader but more politically correct term that also includes South Asians (Indians, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, etc.) and most of the Arab & Persian / Gulf States peoples.[/QUOTE]Not sure where your from but oriental is not a excepted term any more. Not to mention it sounds dumb.
Guys,
Please ignore all my NEGATIVE post about Kate. She is an absolute professional and legit. I made shit up cause she turned down my advance and assholes then also followed my lead thinking she is like many of the other nasty women out there. Kate, is a smart, safe, and professional.
[QUOTE=Tonycacg;3247950]Guys,
Please ignore all my NEGATIVE post about Kate. She is an absolute professional and legit. I made shit up cause she turned down my advance and assholes then also followed my lead thinking she is like many of the other nasty women out there. Kate, is a smart, safe, and professional.[/QUOTE]Some reason I'm getting a weird vibe about this post. Why the sudden change of heart?
[QUOTE=SlowRoller;3247986]Some reason I'm getting a weird vibe about this post. Why the sudden change of heart?[/QUOTE]I posted a review on Katelyn stating that she provided all kinds of services, cause I was pissed and had a shitty day. I have to be real and say that she gives such a good relaxing sensual rubdown, it seems as thought she was into me. I realized after the fact is she is legit and it pissed me off that she is real. Who does not hate being rejected. She knew I posted and called me on it, and I owned it and was a douche move on my part. Instead of creating a new name and making shit up, I decided to me a man and own up to my fuck up, cause as we all know, there are too many drug addicts and nasty women out there. Kate is very sexy and fun, and I should of not pushed the limits. She will not do nude and she will not not do mutual.
If you treat her with respect, she will give you an experience worth every penny.
If you disrespect her limits or keep asking for more, she'll get crazy on you. She has a lot of people saying she's crazy and I'm sure it's the ones who won't take no for an answer. Lets keep this one safe and around for a while.
Just a guy who is manning up and not posting bull shit anymore.
[QUOTE=Hookedonpun;3247890]Not sure where your from but oriental is not a excepted term any more. Not to mention it sounds dumb.[/QUOTE]You did see the words "technically" and "more politically correct," right? That would imply that "Asian" would be the more "accepted" term.
[QUOTE=Tonycacg;3247994]I posted a review on Katelyn stating that she provided all kinds of services, cause I was pissed and had a shitty day. I have to be real and say that she gives such a good relaxing sensual rubdown, it seems as thought she was into me. I realized after the fact is she is legit and it pissed me off that she is real. Who does not hate being rejected. She knew I posted and called me on it, and I owned it and was a douche move on my part. Instead of creating a new name and making shit up, I decided to me a man and own up to my fuck up, cause as we all know, there are too many drug addicts and nasty women out there. Kate is very sexy and fun, and I should of not pushed the limits. She will not do nude and she will not not do mutual.
If you treat her with respect, she will give you an experience worth every penny.
If you disrespect her limits or keep asking for more, she'll get crazy on you. She has a lot of people saying she's crazy and I'm sure it's the ones who won't take no for an answer. Lets keep this one safe and around for a while.
Just a guy who is manning up and not posting bull shit anymore.[/QUOTE]I have never visited Katelyn, or availed myself of her services. I base my judgement of whack-a-doodle-ness based solely on outrageous claims she communicated to me via text & email over a period of time. The crazy is strong with that one, and even if she had reviews indicating full service skills and abilities beyond compare, I would never see her. Granted she's a step up, likely, from obvious scammers, and probably not as certifiable as "she-who-must-not-be-named," but I wouldn't waste a minute or penny on her.
While you are "manning up," are there other reviews you'd like to come clean about, or should we suspect your entire body of work?
[QUOTE=Ebauche;3248181]I have never visited Katelyn, or availed myself of her services. I base my judgement of whack-a-doodle-ness based solely on outrageous claims she communicated to me via text & email over a period of time. The crazy is strong with that one, and even if she had reviews indicating full service skills and abilities beyond compare, I would never see her. Granted she's a step up, likely, from obvious scammers, and probably not as certifiable as "she-who-must-not-be-named," but I wouldn't waste a minute or penny on her.
While you are "manning up," are there other reviews you'd like to come clean about, or should we suspect your entire body of work?[/QUOTE]
Again, I'm trying to come clean that like an immature guy that I am, I got caught up in the moment thinking a provider would fall for a client and I could get more. I was wrong and I was a douche by saying things like that. Go ahead and discredit all my post because guys not me can't get real girls. I've asked that all my post be removed. Again, I fucked up and hurt someone that I should not of.
I was in boxed that someone in here was talking with Kate. Not sure if they were on phone or texting or what but they were accused of being me. Not sure why. Appears she is reaching out to all people that may have said she is cuckoo for cocoa puffs. I saw her then her popularity went up and her sanity went down. Not sure what happened with her but high drama and many negative comments. I'll go with the numbers of negative comments by others and throw her in the done category. Chubby girl that had no attention gets some attention and somehow convinced a guy to reverse his post. OR she is TonyACG. Never saw a reversal like that. Seems rather odd for her to get him to do so when she is supposedly turning people away since she is so busy.
[QUOTE=Ebauche;3248181]I have never visited Katelyn, or availed myself of her services. I base my judgement of whack-a-doodle-ness based solely on outrageous claims she communicated to me via text & email over a period of time. The crazy is strong with that one, and even if she had reviews indicating full service skills and abilities beyond compare, I would never see her. Granted she's a step up, likely, from obvious scammers, and probably not as certifiable as "she-who-must-not-be-named," but I wouldn't waste a minute or penny on her.
While you are "manning up," are there other reviews you'd like to come clean about, or should we suspect your entire body of work?[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=TreeTrunk2016;3248307]I was in boxed that someone in here was talking with Kate. Not sure if they were on phone or texting or what but they were accused of being me. Not sure why. Appears she is reaching out to all people that may have said she is cuckoo for cocoa puffs. I saw her then her popularity went up and her sanity went down. Not sure what happened with her but high drama and many negative comments. I'll go with the numbers of negative comments by others and throw her in the done category. Chubby girl that had no attention gets some attention and somehow convinced a guy to reverse his post. OR she is TonyACG. Never saw a reversal like that. Seems rather odd for her to get him to do so when she is supposedly turning people away since she is so busy.
.[/QUOTE]I think anytime you see drama like this experience says to stay away.
But thanks for the note.
She is now off my list.
Be safe.
Goat.
I'll second that she's nuts. Only saw her one time, and she got offended I told her she talked too much. That woman will not shut up. Made me cash out right there. I left no problem, but that surreal-ly further escalated into her threatening to get my plate number from the landlord's security cameras. And then she kept messaging threats she has contacts in law enforcement. Avoid her.
[QUOTE=Ebauche;3247323]Nutbag crazy, IMHO.
[URL]http://cleveland.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/katelyns-perfect-touch-professional-gentlemen-preferred/34178617[/URL][/QUOTE]
Seems like hit and miss at the AMPs around town. What I have found is that they are all older and about 50% can get a HJ but that is about it.
I hear that the motels down in berea are an easy score and bring in the Chinese girls. I said Oriental and she said I'm not a rug, LOL.
[QUOTE=Tonycacg;3247994]I posted a review on Katelyn stating that she provided all kinds of services, cause I was pissed and had a shitty day. I have to be real and say that she gives such a good relaxing sensual rubdown, it seems as thought she was into me. I realized after the fact is she is legit and it pissed me off that she is real. Who does not hate being rejected. She knew I posted and called me on it, and I owned it and was a douche move on my part. Instead of creating a new name and making shit up, I decided to me a man and own up to my fuck up, cause as we all know, there are too many drug addicts and nasty women out there. Kate is very sexy and fun, and I should of not pushed the limits. She will not do nude and she will not not do mutual.
If you treat her with respect, she will give you an experience worth every penny.
If you disrespect her limits or keep asking for more, she'll get crazy on you. She has a lot of people saying she's crazy and I'm sure it's the ones who won't take no for an answer. Lets keep this one safe and around for a while.
Just a guy who is manning up and not posting bull shit anymore.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoatOhio;3248340]I think anytime you see drama like this experience says to stay away.
But thanks for the note.
She is now off my list.
Be safe.
Goat.[/QUOTE]It looks like everyone has had a negative experience except for the retraction post. Off my list even if she is that good, way to much drama appears to be part of the package for me.
Yeah who knows maybe she threatened that guy and scared him into retracting his posts. I called her up based on one of his old posts saying more was on the menu. After talking to her on the phone I decided not to see her based on my better judgment. Since this was some time ago I can't remember the exact details. But do remember her talking about cops, potential busts and that she some cop cars outside her apt. , etc. Good thing I didn't rely too heavily on that guy's posts.
[QUOTE=Tonycacg;3247994]I posted a review on Katelyn stating that she provided all kinds of services, cause I was pissed and had a shitty day. I have to be real and say that she gives such a good relaxing sensual rubdown, it seems as thought she was into me. I realized after the fact is she is legit and it pissed me off that she is real. Who does not hate being rejected. She knew I posted and called me on it, and I owned it and was a douche move on my part. Instead of creating a new name and making shit up, I decided to me a man and own up to my fuck up, cause as we all know, there are too many drug addicts and nasty women out there. Kate is very sexy and fun, and I should of not pushed the limits. She will not do nude and she will not not do mutual.
If you treat her with respect, she will give you an experience worth every penny.
If you disrespect her limits or keep asking for more, she'll get crazy on you. She has a lot of people saying she's crazy and I'm sure it's the ones who won't take no for an answer. Lets keep this one safe and around for a while.
Just a guy who is manning up and not posting bull shit anymore.[/QUOTE]Keep her around for what. By your post she doesn't do any extras. I'm sure there are other forums where you can go talk about het amazing massage skills.
[QUOTE=Lrkin;3248346]I'll second that she's nuts. Only saw her one time, and she got offended I told her she talked too much. That woman will not shut up. Made me cash out right there. I left no problem, but that surreal-ly further escalated into her threatening to get my plate number from the landlord's security cameras. And then she kept messaging threats she has contacts in law enforcement. Avoid her.[/QUOTE]She's pretty dam ugly too.
[QUOTE=Lrkin;3248346]I'll second that she's nuts. Only saw her one time, and she got offended I told her she talked too much. That woman will not shut up. Made me cash out right there. I left no problem, but that surreal-ly further escalated into her threatening to get my plate number from the landlord's security cameras. And then she kept messaging threats she has contacts in law enforcement. Avoid her.[/QUOTE]My real name is Junior Samples. My license plate and phone number is BR-549. Call Five O on me.
[QUOTE=Tonycacg;3248193]Again, I'm trying to come clean that like an immature guy that I am, I got caught up in the moment thinking a provider would fall for a client and I could get more. I was wrong and I was a douche by saying things like that. Go ahead and discredit all my post because guys not me can't get real girls. I've asked that all my post be removed. Again, I fucked up and hurt someone that I should not of.[/QUOTE]I only visit Cleveland from time to time but damn. Sounds like someone was sending their brethren out to slaughter. At least came clean before too many people went barking up the bat shit tree!
[QUOTE=Goaloh;3251726]My real name is Junior Samples. My license plate and phone number is BR-549. Call Five O on me.[/QUOTE]Goaloh what is the meaning of this post?
There are enuff posts about Katelyn that state she is a wack job. Mongers, you have been warned. Visit her at your own risk. I actually called and talked to her. The first time, her service was 100. I told her I would call back in a week and she jumped to 150. HE for 150. Don't think so. Not going to happen.
[QUOTE=ColdFusion2500;3252186]Goaloh what is the meaning of this post?[/QUOTE]JuniorSamples 549.
[QUOTE=ColdFusion2500;3252186]Goaloh what is the meaning of this post?[/QUOTE]I was responding to his post.
I left no problem, but that surreal-ly further escalated into her threatening to get my plate number from the landlord's security cameras.
[QUOTE=Hookedonpun;3251598]She's pretty dam ugly too.[/QUOTE]The head tilt alone is INSANE.
Anyone try Russian massge by marina on rockside in parma / seven hills area. Can't really find too much info on what is offered, any info to share would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=MustangMogul;3255649]Anyone try Russian massge by marina on rockside in parma / seven hills area. Can't really find too much info on what is offered, any info to share would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Many reviews in this forum. Legit massage only. She will press her titties against you while massaging, but no touchie, no extras. She is very nice and kind.
I miss my Cougar! Anyone hear anything more?
My first time out, I went to the Relax Zone. Got the idea from are-maps. Tried to sign up for a membership there, but it requires an international transaction. Lurking here and elsewhere lead me to believe that it was a lost cause.
Anyway, the Relax Zone. Walked in, said someone would be available in 20 min. Got prepped, they asked if I wanted 60 min, I agreed. I was then asked if I wanted it "hard" or "medium". I chose medium. The massage was okay, first one ever actually.
After 60 min, she said the massage was over. I was really hoping to get the HE. I asked for extra, she left the room. I just kinda sat there. She came back in after few minutes to tell me that the session was over.
I asked what her name was. She didn't seem to understand me. I asked if her name was Mona (thought that was the code or something from are-maps). She left the room again. I got dressed. Stepped outside the room. The girl taking the money didn't look like the same woman, and didn't seem to understand me much either. It was. 6 for the session. I gave her $. 2 total and said I was going to come back to see her (I thought it might improve my chances next time around). It wasn't a horrible experience, but damn was I looking for that HE.
Any tips on my next visit? I thought about going out to Warren if the next time there is a bust (no pun intended).
[QUOTE=WantsATreat;3256775]My first time out, I went to the Relax Zone. Got the idea from are-maps. Tried to sign up for a membership there, but it requires an international transaction. Lurking here and elsewhere lead me to believe that it was a lost cause.
Anyway, the Relax Zone. Walked in, said someone would be available in 20 min. Got prepped, they asked if I wanted 60 min, I agreed. I was then asked if I wanted it "hard" or "medium". I chose medium. The massage was okay, first one ever actually.
After 60 min, she said the massage was over. I was really hoping to get the HE. I asked for extra, she left the room. I just kinda sat there. She came back in after few minutes to tell me that the session was over.
I asked what her name was. She didn't seem to understand me. I asked if her name was Mona (thought that was the code or something from are-maps). She left the room again. I got dressed. Stepped outside the room. The girl taking the money didn't look like the same woman, and didn't seem to understand me much either. It was. 6 for the session. I gave her $. 2 total and said I was going to come back to see her (I thought it might improve my chances next time around). It wasn't a horrible experience, but damn was I looking for that HE.
Any tips on my next visit? I thought about going out to Warren if the next time there is a bust (no pun intended).[/QUOTE]Answer is the same, practice practice practice. And RTFF there is an answer to every question. But no quick single answer. Good luck, keep practicing and you will find your way. And one last thing, don't over pay, pay for service, not on the cum. (pun intended)
Many mongers on here see a post in a forum, go to the place and expect instant satisfaction because they read a post that someone got a HE. You got to play to pay, go to the place a few times, see the same girl. You might get lucky on the first try, but unlikely. These girls are very careful, especially these new Chinese places. They don't want to go back home to China and make $1. 97 an hour. (I did some research) When I first went to Cuyahoga Falls Chinese massage, no HE at all. But I worked my way up to seeing the same girl and finally hit my jackpot BJ. I also know that FS is not on the menu at all, so won't even try for that.
Since the big bust in Warren a few years back, Tiger and Sun are very careful now. They do not want to get busted and lose their license. Back in the day when Warren had a dozen true AMPs, different story, more relaxed.
[QUOTE=WantsATreat;3256775]My first time out, I went to the Relax Zone. Got the idea from are-maps. Tried to sign up for a membership there, but it requires an international transaction. Lurking here and elsewhere lead me to believe that it was a lost cause.
Anyway, the Relax Zone. Walked in, said someone would be available in 20 min. Got prepped, they asked if I wanted 60 min, I agreed. I was then asked if I wanted it "hard" or "medium". I chose medium. The massage was okay, first one ever actually.
After 60 min, she said the massage was over. I was really hoping to get the HE. I asked for extra, she left the room. I just kinda sat there. She came back in after few minutes to tell me that the session was over.
I asked what her name was. She didn't seem to understand me. I asked if her name was Mona (thought that was the code or something from are-maps). She left the room again. I got dressed. Stepped outside the room. The girl taking the money didn't look like the same woman, and didn't seem to understand me much either. It was. 6 for the session. I gave her $. 2 total and said I was going to come back to see her (I thought it might improve my chances next time around). It wasn't a horrible experience, but damn was I looking for that HE.
Any tips on my next visit? I thought about going out to Warren if the next time there is a bust (no pun intended).[/QUOTE]Since the pigs massaged Relax Zhone a few years back (set up cameras, sent in decoys over a course of several months, couldn't they figure a better way of spending tax payer money, the AMP workers there come voluntarily and work voluntarily because $ converts to a lot in their home currency) they offer extras to trusted and your a far away from Carnegie Hall
[QUOTE=DeskJockey;3257076]Since the pigs massaged Relax Zhone a few years back (set up cameras, sent in decoys over a course of several months, couldn't they figure a better way of spending tax payer money, the AMP workers there come voluntarily and work voluntarily because $ converts to a lot in their home currency) they offer extras to trusted and your a far away from Carnegie Hall[/QUOTE]If they know you, you will get a HE. Been there many times, but to me not worth it. Always get HE, but you fight for a ass rub or tittie squeeze. I spend my money elsewhere.
Who else here has fucked Julie? I recently did and I wanted to know if she's just a ***** or what. Just to be clear this was not a business transaction and did not happen at the massage parlor.
Who else here has fucked Julie? I recently did and I wanted to know if she's just a ***** or what. Just to be clear this was not a business transaction and did not happen at the massage parlor.
See post in Ashtabula / Massage parlor / Same old song and dance with new places. Not worth it.
After reading the other posts about Kate I decided to register and tell you a True story based on complete facts. First time seeing was in the Tower. I only frequent a HJ ****** 3-4 times a year. The story I got from her was that she was reported to the landlord for frequent men visitors. That is when she moved to Lakewood. Please Note: The Owners of the building in Lakewood have been warned about Kate that she is a prostititue. Pros·ti·tute noun.
1. a person, in particular a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment. Synonyms: call girl, *****;.
Don't expect her to be there in Lakewood much longer the owner cannot afford to ruin his reputation and all his other businesses in his nice buiding!
There is a reason they call them "Tricks" they know all the tricks and I am not meaning (sex) the devious ones. Like how to upgrade you by making you feel special with compliments. Like a waitress her sole purpose is to sell you upgrades and if she thinks you have the $$$ she will act the way she thinks is best to hook you. She will play the victim like she hates what she does and have you feel sorry to try and rescue her. She also will brag about how much money she makes if she thinks she needs to make you think she is worth more. She will turn down bookings to look like she is in high demand it's all a gimmick.
It started with handjobs aka a massage (not a good massage) The masssage is a ruse you want the jerk off at the end! From the first visit there was a happy ending! Then she after spending more money worked into blow jobs then Full on fucking. (not a good fuck).
If she fucks you it's because she wants to sucker you into spending money and making you think "she cares for you!" She will actually make you feel guilty and claim she has back issues for stress because she is falling in love with you. Then of course if your a good guy buy her 100's of dollars worth of gift cards. Talk you into buying her all kinds of stuff. The money I spent is embarrassing. By then you are hooked on all the lies. Everytime she opens her mouth she lies that's clear by the other posts on this website.
This may sound extreme but this chick is crazy and she knows all the tricks to suck you in! I have seen handjob ****** for years and never have I been suckered until this one. Had I read the other reviews on here I would of read about her and seen she's nuts and that even visiting her would be a huge mistake. (and it was) Hopefully this post will help other. She also sees chicks and does outcalls.
There are pictures of her all over the internet that are from years ago. She looks nothing like that now! Now she posts those photos that are nothing like what she looks like. She has huge store bought Hard titties and a Huge Gut! As you can read the girls are an investment for her being a handjob *****! When she is sucking you in they are on display. Her huge gut is a big turn off. Her shaved pussy is pretty gross as well but hey she's a *****.
She is depressed and extremely moody and as others have said she will blow your phone up. She will start with legit phone calls and questions but it's all part of seeing how much she can suck you in!
The biggest mistake I ever made was seeing this handjob *****. If you want moody and drama that is 100% her! She has days where she can barely function and wants you to help her! Who needs that? Everyday is a different personality!
Once the full sex happened it was a huge disappointment. Very robotic no feelings just going through the motions. Then she "claims" she feels guilty? If you know what a "tar baby" is that's exactly what she is!
She's an operator and hooking you for more time money and attention is Her game. The whole point of a fake massage happy ending is. That is all it is! Not with Kate she is fishing for $$$ and works every angle! If she is talking she is lying! Sad fact!
There have now been 9 or 10 warnings about Kate / Katelyn!
If only I had checked here first I could of saved a ton of cash and Stress in my life. The best thing is personally I don't see them (Happy ending *****) anymore!
But good lord. What drama what a waste of time and money and how dumb was I! If all this makes ypu want to see her good luck but you have been warned!
So who else here has fucked Julie? I did recently and I wanted to know if she does that for all her regular customers or was I lucky. Just to be clear this was not a business transaction and did not happen at the massage parlor.