HJ only for 200 I was quoted not too long ago, nothing else was mentioned. As far as I know that's all there is on the menu.
[QUOTE=Hoorayarai;5739467]Has anyone had a private dance with Ava at Pandoras? If so how was the mileage?[/QUOTE].
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HJ only for 200 I was quoted not too long ago, nothing else was mentioned. As far as I know that's all there is on the menu.
[QUOTE=Hoorayarai;5739467]Has anyone had a private dance with Ava at Pandoras? If so how was the mileage?[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=DirtyFuk;5739444]She is fat and lactating! She squirted in my mouth.
She must be close to 200 lbs.
It is so hot her daddy sends her back to takes loads from men while he collects unemployment.[/QUOTE]If she takes it in the mouth (BBBJCIM) and is good at it 200# is not a deal breaker.
[QUOTE=CoronaLime;5729417]She is nuts. She went off on Instagram for a guys asking for MSOG. She posted this.
If she doesn't want guys to asks for hooker services, she shouldn't charge hooker rates.[/QUOTE]I kind of assumed that ricks dancers don't give extras, so this response isn't a surprise to me.
[QUOTE=KorbenDallas;5740549]If she takes it in the mouth (BBBJCIM) and is good at it 200# is not a deal breaker.[/QUOTE]I've been looking to see what she looks like but can't find shit is she on any insta?
[QUOTE=ManuelPaisa69;5739554]HJ only for 200 I was quoted not too long ago, nothing else was mentioned. As far as I know that's all there is on the menu.
.[/QUOTE]When Pandoras's reopened she was just doing standard, very sensual dancing or HJs. Now YMMV. But I can tell you this, if a dancer comes in to dance just for one of her regular customer for 30 minutes in a private and then leaves, she's not making a lot of money if she just did a 200 HJ. The club rent is more than half of that.
[QUOTE=TheMightyQuinn;5742105]When Pandoras's reopened she was just doing standard, very sensual dancing or HJs. Now YMMV. But I can tell you this, if a dancer comes in to dance just for one of her regular customer for 30 minutes in a private and then leaves, she's not making a lot of money if she just did a 200 HJ. The club rent is more than half of that.[/QUOTE]She's making the whole 200 for that HJ because the customer goes up to the counter and pays for the private room in advance. You then go with her to the room and pay the entire negotiated amount to her, they are two very separate transactions. So your 200 HJ ends up costing you 275 after you've paid the house too.
[QUOTE=TiredFrog;5743086]She's making the whole 200 for that HJ because the customer goes up to the counter and pays for the private room in advance. You then go with her to the room and pay the entire negotiated amount to her, they are two very separate transactions. So your 200 HJ ends up costing you 275 after you've paid the house too.[/QUOTE]Dancers pay the club to work. It's about $100-175 per shift.
See her early and only get her when she's in a good mood. Otherwise, you will have a mediocre experience.
[QUOTE=DapperDavid;5707992]Anybody know Lola's schedule at Pandora?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheMightyQuinn;5743129]Dancers pay the club to work. It's about $100-175 per shift.[/QUOTE]Once a day, not for every customer.
[QUOTE=GoldenDrago;5743319]See her early and only get her when she's in a good mood. Otherwise, you will have a mediocre experience.[/QUOTE]Every Saturday is your best bet from what her IG says. No bad or even mediocre experiences with her yet but. Never say never. It looks like she's splitting her time between pandoras and the old bare aka new sugars.
Does anyone knows what happened to visa from pandoras? They don't promote her on their Instagram account anymore.
[QUOTE=FrankTheDude;5719695]YMMV with sativa. She is hot, but the gps and one-and-done dances has always made me steer clear. When she was a blonde at Pandoras I thought the energy from her stage dances would carry over to the couch dances, but I could not have been more wrong in my own one and done experience with her.[/QUOTE]Is Sativa an AA (possibly Cuban or Puerto Rican also) with a big round ass and awesome shape with a flat stomach and smaller, perky B's maybe? I met her at Sugars last night and she gave off a very friendly vibe. We actually had a decent convo before she brought up any extra activities. After about 20 minutes of chat, we agreed on a dance for $40 and headed to the LDA. But that's where things got flaky. She wanted the $40 upfront and I flat out refused. NEVER going for that again at any club out here. Once I refused she asked if she could see the $40, but this was bullshit since she clearly saw the knot I pulled out as I was tipping on the stage. Mind you, I'm dressed in some nice slacks with a button up shirt and some two-toned custom Italian oxfords and you really think I'm going to bail out on $40? I stood my ground and told her I was good. All she could do is wish me a good evening anyway and we parted ways.
[QUOTE=ManuelPaisa69;5751680]Does anyone knows what happened to visa from pandoras? They don't promote her on their Instagram account anymore.[/QUOTE]She's been at Sugars and promotes that on her personal Instagram page. I'm starting to wonder if it has the potential to be the new hot spot.
[QUOTE=UnHungHero2020;5752020]Is Sativa an AA (possibly Cuban or Puerto Rican also) with a big round ass and awesome shape with a flat stomach and smaller, perky B's maybe? I met her at Sugars last night and she gave off a very friendly vibe. We actually had a decent convo before she brought up any extra activities. After about 20 minutes of chat, we agreed on a dance for $40 and headed to the LDA. But that's where things got flaky. She wanted the $40 upfront and I flat out refused. NEVER going for that again at any club out here. Once I refused she asked if she could see the $40, but this was bullshit since she clearly saw the knot I pulled out as I was tipping on the stage. Mind you, I'm dressed in some nice slacks with a button up shirt and some two-toned custom Italian oxfords and you really think I'm going to bail out on $40? I stood my ground and told her I was good. All she could do is wish me a good evening anyway and we parted ways.[/QUOTE]No, she's a white girl.
[QUOTE=ShavedKitties;5753018]No, she's a white girl.[/QUOTE]Are you black? I was told they do that with black guys becuase they don't want to pay. Whenever someone asks for cash up front, I leave.
[QUOTE=ManuelPaisa69;5751680]Does anyone knows what happened to visa from pandoras? They don't promote her on their Instagram account anymore.[/QUOTE]She is on the Sugars page.
[QUOTE=KorbenDallas;5740549]If she takes it in the mouth (BBBJCIM) and is good at it 200# is not a deal breaker.[/QUOTE]She takes it there. Or anywhere.
[QUOTE=ManuelPaisa69;5751680]Does anyone knows what happened to visa from pandoras? They don't promote her on their Instagram account anymore.[/QUOTE]Yup she is at sugars. I talked to her and she said it's more relaxed at sugars. Not sure what that meant😉.
Does anyone have reports of the following dancers at Kittens.
Jackie.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/exoticjackie_/[/URL]
Chloe.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/chloehardcore/[/URL]
Noelle.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/noellebaby_xoxo/[/URL]
Zara.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/zara.moneyyy/[/URL]
I found these posted on the Kittens Instagram.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/thekittenscabaret/[/URL]
Anyone have any interaction with Whitney at Sugars?
[QUOTE=JSnake921;5754763]Yup she is at sugars. I talked to her and she said it's more relaxed at sugars. Not sure what that meant😉.[/QUOTE]Lola stated Sugars was more laid back. Not sure what the dancers are meaning by these comments. Dancers sit around Pandoras like they are bored sometimes. Manager just hangs out at the Cashier station.
[QUOTE=TheMightyQuinn;5755451]Lola stated Sugars was more laid back. Not sure what the dancers are meaning by these comments. Dancers sit around Pandoras like they are bored sometimes. Manager just hangs out at the Cashier station.[/QUOTE]I asked a similar question and got a similar response, but I haven't been there. TBH I still feel some residual yuk factor from the one time I visited DB. What a dive that place was.
Perhaps a field trip is needed:-p.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;5753052]Are you black? I was told they do that with black guys becuase they don't want to pay. Whenever someone asks for cash up front, I leave.[/QUOTE]I am. And I refuse to do that as well.
[QUOTE=EddyWhtwtr;5756074]I asked a similar question and got a similar response, but I haven't been there. TBH I still feel some residual yuk factor from the one time I visited DB. What a dive that place was.
Perhaps a field trip is needed:-p.[/QUOTE]It's way more relaxed. Management basically lets you do whatever. You can touch the girls on stage as much as you want and even out on the floor.
I see you guys looking for some info and I thought I'll post my report on the place. I went a couple weeks back to test the waters and it was definitely much better than the DB of old. All new furniture and stage, much better private area (similar to the one at Pandora's). About the "laid-back" stuff though, the girls were not shy about OTC fun, but I did not get the vibe that anything could happen in the club. Also, the private area was brighter than at Pandora's, so no, I guess?. But then again, YMMV with the time of the day and who you meet. For the curious, I went on a weekend just after 5.
[QUOTE=BrownChocolate;5756245]I see you guys looking for some info and I thought I'll post my report on the place. I went a couple weeks back to test the waters and it was definitely much better than the DB of old. All new furniture and stage, much better private area (similar to the one at Pandora's). About the "laid-back" stuff though, the girls were not shy about OTC fun, but I did not get the vibe that anything could happen in the club. Also, the private area was brighter than at Pandora's, so no, I guess?. But then again, YMMV with the time of the day and who you meet. For the curious, I went on a weekend just after 5.[/QUOTE]I used to have good communication with Visa and she said OTC, in club, sugar managers don't mind, just not blatant. And yes YMMV on the dancer. There was one that I really liked, Kira or something like that (she moved to sugars with Visa from Pandoras), but she doesn't do anything.
FWIW: We of a certain age well remember the Colacurcio clubs. And we would love to have them back--but left alone by the authorities. It remains the impossible dream, at least for now. Times have changed, girls have changed, operations like those are probably gone forever. Law enforcement has more authority than ever before. They also have the RICO statute, which is ultimately what shut down those clubs.
Sugars is small and the attitude is relaxed. Managers are not roaming the floors with flashlights. The majority of the girls are attractive indeed. I have yet to encounter a 6 or below, which wasn't the case at Dancing Bare at all. Sugars is clean and well furnished too. But in my own experience, these girls are not providers at any price. Some of them might be, behind the curtain in a VIP room, or perhaps outside the club? In the lap dance area, it is exceedingly tame compared to olden times. And it adds up in a hurry. $40/ dance or 2. 5 dances for a hundred. The hustle is continuous, as it is at any other club.
At present I can well afford to entertain myself there for an hour when I don't want the fucking hassle of connecting with a proper provider. But I do it with zero expectations. This is not the old Rick's and it probably never will be. You really can't blame the management and staff in wanting to avoid surveillance, arrest, conviction and imprisonment. I prefer to avoid those myself.
I haven't been to Sugars yet but I recently spoke to a former Kittens dancer that moved there. She wants 600 for a CBJ in the VIP and says she doesn't do any extras for under 250 as those are the "going rates. ".
Please tell me she is out of her mind and nobody is actually dropping that kind of dough!
[QUOTE=JSnake921;5756876]I used to have good communication with Visa and she said OTC, in club, sugar managers don't mind, just not blatant. And yes YMMV on the dancer. There was one that I really liked, Kira or something like that (she moved to sugars with Visa from Pandoras), but she doesn't do anything.[/QUOTE]Good to know. I'll test the limits the next time I'm there. But still, girls are hot, and its so much better than DB. I'll take that.
[QUOTE=Asianguy;5757321]I haven't been to Sugars yet but I recently spoke to a former Kittens dancer that moved there. She wants 600 for a CBJ in the VIP and says she doesn't do any extras for under 250 as those are the "going rates. ".
Please tell me she is out of her mind and nobody is actually dropping that kind of dough![/QUOTE]She is definitely out of her mind! But somebody must be, or she wouldn't be asking for it.
I'm not that surprised, to be honest. It's the way things are headed around here. Total absurdity.
Went in to Pandoras yesterday before meeting up with some friends for drinks. I had budgeted for 2 dances $60. I got a lovely dance from Anya, and was hoping to get one from Martina, but she was busy. Simone goes up on stage, then stops for a chat. Soon we are in the back. It is mid-song, and she starts dancing. I am used to strippers I know, who treat me fare, so I just went with it. That song finishes, no words spoken, and she keeps going. As that song finishes, I said we better stop there. They were very typical dances. Boobs out, and grinding. Nothing I would consider extra. I am expecting $30, one song. She tells me "that was 2 songs, that will be $80 please. " I said, "you are kidding?" I open my wallet, and count out $72, all the cash in it. That was good enough for her. This is not my first rodeo, and I should have known better. That will be the last money she gets from me. I will spend my money on dancers who treat me fare. I go to clubs less, and less. There is better entertainment to be had that letting people work you over.
[QUOTE=Leroy69;5758338]Went in to Pandoras yesterday before meeting up with some friends for drinks. I had budgeted for 2 dances $60. I got a lovely dance from Anya, and was hoping to get one from Martina, but she was busy. Simone goes up on stage, then stops for a chat. Soon we are in the back. It is mid-song, and she starts dancing. I am used to strippers I know, who treat me fare, so I just went with it. That song finishes, no words spoken, and she keeps going. As that song finishes, I said we better stop there. They were very typical dances. Boobs out, and grinding. Nothing I would consider extra. I am expecting $30, one song. She tells me "that was 2 songs, that will be $80 please. " I said, "you are kidding?" I open my wallet, and count out $72, all the cash in it. That was good enough for her. This is not my first rodeo, and I should have known better. That will be the last money she gets from me. I will spend my money on dancers who treat me fare. I go to clubs less, and less. There is better entertainment to be had that letting people work you over.[/QUOTE]What's even more insulting is when the dancer forgets ripping you off during future visits.
I over payed, you under delivered. At least remember the customers you scammed!
But it seems the trend at various clubs the newer girls charge $40 for a "basic" dance.
[QUOTE=GinVermo;5757999]She is definitely out of her mind! But somebody must be, or she wouldn't be asking for it.
I'm not that surprised, to be honest. It's the way things are headed around here. Total absurdity.[/QUOTE]I've seen a girl on Instagram who charged like $600 for a half hour, and $1000 for an hour, with no guarantee of extras. She put up a little video fanning out a couple grand of hundred dollar bills that she made. So some suckers are paying up. Ironically the following week she's begging people to donate to her cash app so she can eat and drink.
[QUOTE=Leroy69;5758338]Went in to Pandoras yesterday before meeting up with some friends for drinks. I had budgeted for 2 dances $60. I got a lovely dance from Anya, and was hoping to get one from Martina, but she was busy. Simone goes up on stage, then stops for a chat. Soon we are in the back. It is mid-song, and she starts dancing. I am used to strippers I know, who treat me fare, so I just went with it. That song finishes, no words spoken, and she keeps going. As that song finishes, I said we better stop there. They were very typical dances. Boobs out, and grinding. Nothing I would consider extra. I am expecting $30, one song. She tells me "that was 2 songs, that will be $80 please. " I said, "you are kidding?" I open my wallet, and count out $72, all the cash in it. That was good enough for her. This is not my first rodeo, and I should have known better. That will be the last money she gets from me. I will spend my money on dancers who treat me fare. I go to clubs less, and less. There is better entertainment to be had that letting people work you over.[/QUOTE]I learned to always verify with her what the prices are before anything gets started, even with the couple of girls I see regularly. They sadly don't realize that they lose money from any future visits by scamming like this. Glad you didn't get ripped off for anything more.
[QUOTE=TheMightyQuinn;5742105]When Pandoras's reopened she was just doing standard, very sensual dancing or HJs. Now YMMV. But I can tell you this, if a dancer comes in to dance just for one of her regular customer for 30 minutes in a private and then leaves, she's not making a lot of money if she just did a 200 HJ. The club rent is more than half of that.[/QUOTE]Ava, used to fuck you on the couches a few years ago. She never did BJs at the shop, but in private meetings she could suck a football thru a garden hose. She's says she's on drugs now and only does HJs. She was the best one of the best! Miss those days.
Sorry meant to say "off" drugs now.
[QUOTE=FlyHigh69;5758947]Ava, used to fuck you on the couches a few years ago. She never did BJs at the shop, but in private meetings she could suck a football thru a garden hose. She's says she's on drugs now and only does HJs. She was the best one of the best! Miss those days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FlyHigh69;5759419]Sorry meant to say "off" drugs now.[/QUOTE]She's told me she's cleaned up now too. Good for her. But I miss those OTC sessions.
[QUOTE=Asianguy;5757321]I haven't been to Sugars yet but I recently spoke to a former Kittens dancer that moved there. She wants 600 for a CBJ in the VIP and says she doesn't do any extras for under 250 as those are the "going rates. ".
Please tell me she is out of her mind and nobody is actually dropping that kind of dough![/QUOTE]I busted a nut in Milana at kittens for 250.
She is pretty fat these days.
[QUOTE=Barnie;5759854]I busted a nut in Milana at kittens for 250.
She is pretty fat these days.[/QUOTE]I've never had one say no. Busting-nuts-wise. Sometimes they make you slip on the jimmy hat (which sucks) but the only one who ever said "I can't" was on her period. Skip the gym and get those benjamins, muh nizzles, cause all it takes is = $$ to get that ass.
[QUOTE=MaxPower777;5760124]I've never had one say no. Busting-nuts-wise. Sometimes they make you slip on the jimmy hat (which sucks) but the only one who ever said "I can't" was on her period. Skip the gym and get those benjamins, muh nizzles, cause all it takes is = $$ to get that ass.[/QUOTE]Her blowjobs are the best. BBBJCIM. Sloppy. Drools all over. You can feel it go down her throat. Her eyes tear up nice. She has gotten big.
Still really nice. Her pussy gets wet when she gets her face fucked.
I wonder if her baby daddy knows what she is really doing.