Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5026549]Naw. Maybe I'm just old and jaded but I expect people that want to give up some ass so men will give them money and buy them shit to actually know or be willing to learn how to please men. If they want lessons on fucking then they can pay me. I seriously don't have the time / energy to fuck with shyness or being coy. I like the flirting and fun texts with a SB, but when it's time to get down to business, I expect her to have eaten her Wheaties and be prepared to spend a couple of dirty, wet, sweaty hours getting busy. From talking to people, it appears that I pay more than average and I always buy presents for my SBs. All of my SBs keep an Amazon wish list that I regularly use ($800-$1000/ mth). So, I'm not some cheap bastard, hoping to find low prices escorts. But younger people act like you're supposed to be happy that they are willing to fuck you and seem unwilling to put in the effort. Then they are shocked when you don't want anything to do with them after one meeting.[/QUOTE]I hear ya.

For me, it is often very hot to help a more or less innocent girl confront the fact that deep down inside, she is a cum craving freak. It isn't always worth the effort, but sometimes it makes for six months or a year of great fucking. I agree that taking charge of a girl takes a lot of work, but again sometimes that work is worthwhile.

And when it comes to the arrangement sites, one thing I've learned is that the most bratty, obnoxious, and entitled sluts on those sites crave a man who can put her in her place.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5026390]I am not sure if she blocked me or just deleted her account, however if someone could check that would help, 26 Brunette in Marysville, her profile name was CC nursing student or something like that.[/QUOTE]I'm not seeing anyone in Marysville with that or a similar profile name.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5027361]I hear ya.

For me, it is often very hot to help a more or less innocent girl confront the fact that deep down inside, she is a cum craving freak. It isn't always worth the effort, but sometimes it makes for six months or a year of great fucking. I agree that taking charge of a girl takes a lot of work, but again sometimes that work is worthwhile.

And when it comes to the arrangement sites, one thing I've learned is that the most bratty, obnoxious, and entitled sluts on those sites crave a man who can put her in her place.[/QUOTE]I don't know. That sounds fun and all, but I don't want to spend the time or effort on that. I usually focus on being a "different" SD and developing honest connections from the jump so things play out well. If a bratty 20 yr tells me she wants the world as her lollipop and I'm supposed to fund the stick when she doesn't even know how to lick, I'm out. But I'm guessing that's where dudes like you can step in and whip them into shape.

Maybe when I'm older I'll put the time and effort in. I know a couple of friends do that and it seems like a lot of effort. But for now, these girls are annoying.

[QUOTE=Bronco62;5027538]I'm not seeing anyone in Marysville with that or a similar profile name.[/QUOTE]I found out a few hours ago what happened, someone contacted her and had asked her how much to meet for an hour, she said she didn't do that and the person told her that SA was really where people went to trade sex for cash, she had thought this was more of a dating site and that makes sense from what she had told me. In one of our talks she said she didn't mine going out but she thought I was about 5 years older that someone she wanted to get really serious with as she was looking to start a family in the next 2-4 years. I was able to verify that she was in fact going to school for what she said and a few other things. There were other things that made me think she really didn't know what SA was and I wish I had been able to spend some time with her as she was by far the most genuine person I ever talked to on SA, probably because she was not there for what 99% of the others are there for. The problem is that because I was on that site for a while she believes I knew exactly what I was on there for and said there will be no more communication between us.

Talk about my luck smh.

Sleepless Serenity.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3b79bb11-6d9f-48dc-8ad0-546f375db091[/URL]

Wanted 1 k per meet.

Ezra pdx.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0ca682f4-4bed-4167-8a28-e418b560bdda[/URL]

This one takes the cake. Wants 2 k to 2. 5 k per meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5d7ce330-f5a8-4bba-a981-ff80fc6d5ac6[/URL]

Chatted her up, agreed to dates and terms but dropped she needs to be paid at dinner.

Um that's going to be a no.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5028005]... she believes I knew exactly what I was on there for and said there will be no more communication between us.

Talk about my luck smh.[/QUOTE]A lot of those girls chicken out or freak out when the implications of what they are doing on that site strike home. Give her a few months and she will probably be tight for money and she might change her mind.

My experience is about a third of the girls on the site chicken out at first but a lot of them end up texting me back. One of my ATFs, the first time we actually met, smoked two bowls in the hotel parking lot before actually meeting me. Which we both thought was funny later on.

[QUOTE=ThreadSoul;5029644]Sleepless Serenity.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3b79bb11-6d9f-48dc-8ad0-546f375db091[/URL]

Wanted 1 k per meet.

Ezra pdx.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0ca682f4-4bed-4167-8a28-e418b560bdda[/URL]

This one takes the cake. Wants 2 k to 2. 5 k per meet.[/QUOTE]Well, if they put out like this girl I'd probably go for it:

[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593efc29b144b[/URL]

Although honestly I'd expect a tighter and firmer body for those prices. She isn't half bad, though.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5030771]Well, if they put out like this girl I'd probably go for it:[/QUOTE]Obviously there will be future training sessions to keep her from using so much ice and letting it dilute the drink.

[QUOTE=ThreadSoul;5029644]Sleepless Serenity.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3b79bb11-6d9f-48dc-8ad0-546f375db091[/URL]

Wanted 1 k per meet.

[/QUOTE]She's a former stripper at Rick's. 1000 per meet is standard for those girls. I've been quoted that rate by multiple dancers there no matter what their looks.

She's been on my radar, so I'm glad you saved me some time with the old "I'm going to the restroom" dine-and-dash routine.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5030352][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5d7ce330-f5a8-4bba-a981-ff80fc6d5ac6[/URL]

Chatted her up, agreed to dates and terms but dropped she needs to be paid at dinner.

Um that's going to be a no.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a15a8064-746e-40cc-aeac-0eeddddcb1d9[/URL]

Anyone have any experience with this cutie?

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5032162][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a15a8064-746e-40cc-aeac-0eeddddcb1d9[/URL]

Anyone have any experience with this cutie?[/QUOTE]I have a date set up with her next week. Met her on another SB site. We didn't talk money, let me know if she gives a rate.


(Edit) Now that I think of it, don't ask her for a rate. She told me she's in college because she wants to work for homeland security. I thought that was a little weird (knowing about security clearances), this would disqualify her in a heartbeat. I wouldn't mention exchanging money for sex until we know better.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5030661]A lot of those girls chicken out or freak out when the implications of what they are doing on that site strike home. Give her a few months and she will probably be tight for money and she might change her mind.

My experience is about a third of the girls on the site chicken out at first but a lot of them end up texting me back. One of my ATFs, the first time we actually met, smoked two bowls in the hotel parking lot before actually meeting me. Which we both thought was funny later on.[/QUOTE]I would agree that most will, this girl I doubt it, from what I found out and know from talking to her there really isn't a money issue, parents do well and she has a decent job will going to school, she isn't swimming in money but few people are.

I have noticed since being back on the site there are many women are plain dumb when posting picture, posting pictures with their car license plate visible, or outside their house with house and street name visible, of course this is the best, posting one in their HS cheerleading outfit and they happen to have gone to the school in my town and they live near me.

I noticed an earlier today with a girl posting by a car with the license plate clearly readable.

In my opinion, about half of the "girls" posting are simply fake. I've noticed a couple patterns of those I think are fake:

Models. That should be the first clue that a profile is fake.

Profiles with little to no content created within the last 3 days.

Photos with the sideways red time / date stamp, goes along with profiles with barely any content.

Grainy, burry photos that look like they were scanned from the late 90's.

Photos with a very large white border on the left and right. I see five-to-ten of these a day.

These usually get posted in groups of 10-20 a day (locally), and the "joined date" and "last active" are almost always in the past few days, often on "today's date".

I'm betting that most of these profiles are being created by a group of guys sitting in a hut our poorly built house in some third world country.

I always click the "request them to upload more pictures", "Ask them to verify background" and "Ask them what they're looking for" links. Just to be a pain. LOL.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5032625]... there are many women are plain dumb when posting picture, posting pictures with their car license plate visible...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5032038]She's been on my radar, so I'm glad you saved me some time with the old "I'm going to the restroom" dine-and-dash routine.[/QUOTE]Once I said not on the first date she told me. I am not worth her tome. She a rob.

OK posted on her a while back. I don't need to say more about her other then unless you want to get scammed stay away.

While I did meet her a few times, the amount she has scammed me out of has costed way more time and money then worth it.

Trust me when I say she SA pro at excuses on why she needs money!

I fell for it one to many times!

No more if you hit her up good luck!

Been doing my homework boys and happy to share, hoping this gets some kudos, and that someone will PM with some good ones!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/12c5b9a1-14f0-4e4c-a574-73a43b838b35[/URL]

Texted a bit, she was short about everything, then when I asked for FaceTime to be sure she was real, she ghosted.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0ff91c11-2727-45cb-9b15-c1038a55939f[/URL]

If she's real then I'll let ya know. Wants 500! Said she prefers to get a hotel and spend a few hours together.

But hasn't set anything in stone! But as we men need to stick together, her body is banging but 500 !?

I'm working on not doing more then 400 shooting for 300 as most girls I met go anywhere from 250 to about 4 max.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f3ac8e12-5910-4444-ad33-72ab560377de[/URL]

Wants 400 ppm for first meet then said she wants 450 after that!? Makes no sense, but may meet up.

She wants coffee date first though.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/57185f5f-a2be-4975-84c0-f741a27e96a5[/URL]

Pics and vid seller don't think she ever has intention on meeting!!

Then there's. Beautifuldiasaterrrr.

Can't attach link since I think she blocked me!

Be warned.

She says she in Oregon even though she originally said wa. After getting her cash app I googled her name and a arrest report pops up with a pic and all. Why was she arrested for burglary!

Also not to mention, the mugshot don't match her posted pics, and also she did FaceTime and she did match the face pics, but those body shots clearly are her, when I asked for proof she hung up on me and blocked me on the site. She said she's stuck in her car for 2 days no gas! LOL what blonde girl with that face and body is so broke she has no gas or place to stay? And she start in on huge sob story right away!!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dbb5d56d-0546-48c5-a5a6-f59335595708[/URL]

Saved one of the best for last!

Met her and she's real!! Also only wants 250 wants to get a room, so I did, what she wanted. Said she only wants once a week maybe twice she asks for 500 a week but settled on 250 first meet met and chilled for a bit then on to the uncovered time which was hot and she swallowed my load. Haven't heard from her since then though so figured I'd share so the rest of you can enjoy if you get lucky!

These are just a few I have found, if you want to share intel on more pm me.

[QUOTE=DJNoName;5034981]
Trust me when I say she SA pro at excuses on why she needs money!
[/QUOTE]Nearly all of the girls I have ever seen from SA or any arrangement site eventually try to hit me up for money over some emergency or other. My general advice is to never, ever give them money under such circumstances, because it won't end well for you. Even doing something as simple as giving a girl an "advance" when I was seeing her the next day (supposedly) typically explodes in my face.

Once any of these girls figure out they can get money from you by just texting you a sob story you can expect that they will be doing so continuously.

I've made this mistake more than once, so all of you out there don't have to.

Reposting form the Bareback thread as it is relevant for this one too.

[QUOTE=DeezNutz17;5031748]Ya know. You are more accurate. Juggling 4-5 wasn't easy but because I was new to it it was definitely fun. But after a while SA became a chore because when you juggle 4-5 and keep them rotating with new ladies it can be a bit much. I burned out and eventually stayed with 1-2 ladies I met on the other site. They don't even post ads. I just text and set up. Easy peasy and I know exactly what to expect. SA is like a new adventure every time and like you said you got to put in more work. Shit. It's damn near like real dating. Only diff is you know you going to be fuckin.[/QUOTE]I have been on SA for over a bit more than two years now.

I had observed that one of SA "issues" is that real SBs (not the serial ones that have been in the site for years and that have several overlapping SDs) have high turnover ratios. In those 2 years I had a rotation of 2-3 SBs, that I see 1-2 times a month. At first I was not looking for new prospects once I was happy with my rotation. However, I had experienced that the best SBs, that can host, fuck for several hours, are truly naughty, are ok with reasonable allowances and drop SA after having 2-3 stable SBs, eventually get as I have been told "an offer they can not refuse" that require them to be exclusive from a competing SD. I had lost so far 4 amazing SBs that have going serious or at least monogamous.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5035465]Once any of these girls figure out they can get money from you by just texting you a sob story you can expect that they will be doing so continuously.

I've made this mistake more than once, so all of you out there don't have to.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. There's a fine line between "sugar baby" and "gold digger". It looks a lot like the line between "discerning sugar daddy" and "chump".

1) Obvious model pictures.

2) Member since = within the last 48 hours.

3) Generic about me section = two sentences or less: "Hi Handsome! I am a young 25 year old looking for a life full of success and luxury. Catch me sipping wine in my free time, snuggled in bed with a movie, or finding new places to explore. ".

4) No account verification.

5) No "seeking" content.

Most likely written by one of the guys who is hired in some third-world country to create fake dating accounts using some social media influencer pictures and post a quote of fake profiles each day. It's a numbers game. They only need 1 sucker to send $500 to pre-book a meet up to pay for their endeavor.

If she looks TGTBT, "she" is.

There are LOTS of real girls listing on SA, but this is not one of them. I guarantee it.

[QUOTE=DelToro;5035678]... I had observed that one of SA "issues" is that real SBs (not the serial ones that have been in the site for years and that have several overlapping SDs) have high turnover ratios.[/QUOTE]This is pretty accurate.

I just consider it part of the game. Where I live (Eastern WA) a lot of the girls on those sites (I am no longer on SA) are there to see if they can make enough money to make a start elsewhere. Which generally puts a pretty low upper limit on how long they will be at it, at least there. Which is unfortunate because some of the very best girls who I've met in the area aren't usually there for very long.

For me, probably fifty percent of the time I only see a girl once, and probably eighty percent of the girls I only see three times or less. Part of that is because I am pretty fussy and don't want to bother with them if they don't meet my standards. So if there is an obvious mental health or substance abuse issue I am out of there. Also, if she is only mediocre in bed or if the chemistry is just not there I'm not likely to repeat either.

I saw the second one on your list late last year under a different profile name. She's legit, though she's had some body gains since. Didn't repeat, but only because of scheduling conflict.

[QUOTE=DJNoName;5035086]Been doing my homework boys and happy to share, hoping this gets some kudos, and that someone will PM with some good ones!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/12c5b9a1-14f0-4e4c-a574-73a43b838b35[/URL]

Texted a bit, she was short about everything, then when I asked for FaceTime to be sure she was real, she ghosted.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0ff91c11-2727-45cb-9b15-c1038a55939f[/URL]

If she's real then I'll let ya know. Wants 500! Said she prefers to get a hotel and spend a few hours together.

But hasn't set anything in stone! But as we men need to stick together, her body is banging but 500 !?

I'm working on not doing more then 400 shooting for 300 as most girls I met go anywhere from 250 to about 4 max.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f3ac8e12-5910-4444-ad33-72ab560377de[/URL]

Wants 400 ppm for first meet then said she wants 450 after that!? Makes no sense, but may meet up.

She wants coffee date first though.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/57185f5f-a2be-4975-84c0-f741a27e96a5[/URL]

Pics and vid seller don't think she ever has intention on meeting!!

Then there's. Beautifuldiasaterrrr.

Can't attach link since I think she blocked me![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5035734]1) Obvious model pictures.

2) Member since = within the last 48 hours.

3) Generic about me section = two sentences or less: "Hi Handsome! I am a young 25 year old looking for a life full of success and luxury. Catch me sipping wine in my free time, snuggled in bed with a movie, or finding new places to explore. ".

4) No account verification.

5) No "seeking" content.

Most likely written by one of the guys who is hired in some third-world country to create fake dating accounts using some social media influencer pictures and post a quote of fake profiles each day. It's a numbers game. They only need 1 sucker to send $500 to pre-book a meet up to pay for their endeavor.

If she looks TGTBT, "she" is.

There are LOTS of real girls listing on SA, but this is not one of them. I guarantee it.[/QUOTE]I find that many of these will reach out to you, I will entertain them with a little back and forth, often they say they are looking for online first then will be open to meet, or they are talking about how they want a visa to come to the US.

I have had a few interactions with some girls on SA who wanted to meet in person and didn't request any money, the only physical activity that took place at those initial meetings were some kissing, afterwards a few went further.

Pic sellers or fake.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ed7b74a3-986d-4244-9ec3-60471ba31a10[/URL]

And.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9214bdd8-731b-4a00-b9e3-64a6cf02f7bd[/URL]

Looking for 4 k a month.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9d1d2934-85fd-4b3f-8b18-2f0eb1587439[/URL]

But don't get discouraged there is plenty of fine SB if you play the game right.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ce4d6fa3-1917-4cfa-bb31-f7cbe6720f06[/URL]

Wanted to let everyone know, she's a thief.

[QUOTE=RodStewart;5036391][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ce4d6fa3-1917-4cfa-bb31-f7cbe6720f06[/URL]

Wanted to let everyone know, she's a thief.[/QUOTE]More info please, what type of rob?

Needs gas money or cell phone boll or some shit before meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/600c00f6-d0d9-4c3d-8b61-dc2a97e1ae6d[/URL]

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5036504]Needs gas money or cell phone bill or some shit before meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/600c00f6-d0d9-4c3d-8b61-dc2a97e1ae6d[/URL][/QUOTE]I can't roll my eyes loudly enough over the Internet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4ea51c42-615d-47ef-a80f-d177d8b057f9[/URL]

Anybody meet her?

So, I struck up a text conversation that was quickly taken to another texting app. We'd agreed on a price and duration for a date. I'd given her the hotel and after awhile, she sends me her cashapp and I said that's a deal breaker. She says she won't take cash so I walked away and saved myself from getting scammed. She seemed shocked that SBs would take money and never show up.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/03353e6c-210e-498c-89fa-0123cfd27c07[/URL]

[QUOTE=SEIndyGuy;5041973]So, I struck up a text conversation that was quickly taken to another texting app. We'd agreed on a price and duration for a date. I'd given her the hotel and after awhile, she sends me her cashapp and I said that's a deal breaker. She says she won't take cash so I walked away and saved myself from getting scammed. She seemed shocked that SBs would take money and never show up.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/03353e6c-210e-498c-89fa-0123cfd27c07[/URL][/QUOTE]You posted the link to the message in your inbox, not to her profile.

I don't know if this is appropiate or allowed on this site but.

Is there a review section or site for tinder?

Pm if necessary.

[QUOTE=Router911;5043706]I don't know if this is appropiate or allowed on this site but.

Is there a review section or site for tinder?

Pm if necessary.[/QUOTE]If you search the whole Forum for the word "tinder", most posts are in "Non-Pros", followed by "Escorts". Probably depends on the individual experience where it should go, but there's no Tinder-specific thread.

[QUOTE=Router911;5043706]I don't know if this is appropiate or allowed on this site but.

Is there a review section or site for tinder?

Pm if necessary.[/QUOTE]Even if you do post a review, how does a brother find the lady in question? Isn't the point of Tinder to be dealing from a random deck? Finding someone specific seems to be difficult.

Just curious, any experts out there on bots?

We all hate those "favorite" girls from some third world countries that only a complete idiot would contact. What I noticed is that these do not appear on my "Favorited Me" list until I log on. But as soon as I log on to site, these begin popping up in that feed. Would this be something that SA itself is generating? Or some bot that is hacked into the system?

I don't plan on contacting these girls in any way. I just go and delete the contact. But the geeky curiosity part of me wanted to know.

[QUOTE=Diver6390;5046220]Just curious, any experts out there on bots?

We all hate those "favorite" girls from some third world countries that only a complete idiot would contact. What I noticed is that these do not appear on my "Favorited Me" list until I log on. But as soon as I log on to site, these begin popping up in that feed. Would this be something that SA itself is generating? Or some bot that is hacked into the system?

I don't plan on contacting these girls in any way. I just go and delete the contact. But the geeky curiosity part of me wanted to know.[/QUOTE]That one is simple. They can do a search and SA sorts by who was online first. You don't even have to look at profile, you can simply go down the list and favorite anyone online. I assume that's what they are doing.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5046322]That one is simple. They can do a search and SA sorts by who was online first. You don't even have to look at profile, you can simply go down the list and favorite anyone online. I assume that's what they are doing.[/QUOTE]That would be my first guess. After that it's pretty much just cut and paste with a few clicks.

[QUOTE=Diver6390;5045966]Even if you do post a review, how does a brother find the lady in question? Isn't the point of Tinder to be dealing from a random deck? Finding someone specific seems to be difficult.[/QUOTE]I originally asked because I have a friend who says she sees 4-6 guys a week from tinder. I didn't ask how often she fucks but she gets offered money a lot. I wanted to see if she was actually so popular if there wasnt a forum talking about how successfull guys have been on tinder.

I don't use app myself so no idea how hard or easy it is to meet women.