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[QUOTE=RolfTorren;5106640]I'm really suspicious of the whole Kris Inc. thing. Something just doesn't smell right about it. I've been around long enough to trust my hobbying instincts. Caveat emptor.[/QUOTE]I've been suspicious ever since I saw Cris' first friend, and got nowhere near the performance that was described here, not even close. No way all these girls are as amazing as they're being described to be. I think most of us have caught on to these ads.
There is someone here that is schilling for Cris and team. I am very skeptical of this and there is really no way I visit this group without reports from some 'trusted' individuals on this forum.
[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;5106751]I can understand the feeling. I have seen Cris a few times myself. Don't want to keep reviewing someone if things have stayed the status quo with said provider. Cris does do great customer service IMHO because she updates me on new "inventory" to try. Luckily I have a few burner phones numbers and other discreet emails. Keeps my personal life away from the hobby life.
Cris doesn't give me any kickbacks. I wish that happened. There's only a handful of providers that have given me a quid pro quo.
Those arrangements are the best. Kinda like FWB and I don't have to shell out the big bucks.[/QUOTE]Agree 100% with this guy. I also am not a "schill". You guys can think what you want. The bottom line is 1 thing. CHEMISTRY! If a girl from SDAG or FEC or anybody else does not feel relaxed them YMMV. These girls are not robots. They don't just give you guys great service because you have a pulse and pay the minimum. Learn how to play the game and respect them and ease into it knowing that 2 or 3 sessions down the road is the goal. If you do not have the funds for this hobby go to a spa and get a cheap shitty performance.
I have used all 3 groups in this area and I think long term. There is no such thing as 'kickbacks'.
Grow up stop bitching if you have no money.
Not sure why I am wasting my time helping you guys with so many reviews.
Sheeeeeesh.
[QUOTE=TheDudeInSd;5107331]Agree 100% with this guy. I also am not a "schill". You guys can think what you want. The bottom line is 1 thing. CHEMISTRY! If a girl from SDAG or FEC or anybody else does not feel relaxed them YMMV. These girls are not robots. They don't just give you guys great service because you have a pulse and pay the minimum. Learn how to play the game and respect them and ease into it knowing that 2 or 3 sessions down the road is the goal. If you do not have the funds for this hobby go to a spa and get a cheap shitty performance.
I have used all 3 groups in this area and I think long term. There is no such thing as 'kickbacks'.
Grow up stop bitching if you have no money.
Not sure why I am wasting my time helping you guys with so many reviews.
Sheeeeeesh.[/QUOTE]If you're paying extra for better service, then it's a bit misleading if you leave a good review and you don't indicate that you paid extra and how much extra you tipped.
Tipping is discretionary and I'm not opposed to it but if you leave a good review here, part of the reason you would have received better service is because you left a tip.
As a general rule, I let people know how much of a donation I left and the level of service I received so that people understand why I might have received the service I received.
[QUOTE=TrustyHairlip;5107157]There is someone here that is schilling for Cris and team. I am very skeptical of this and there is really no way I visit this group without reports from some 'trusted' individuals on this forum.[/QUOTE]I have reviewed Cris in this forum and on other sites. She has shared with me that it is her on the photos with the masks as bra and panties. (Not all Asians look alike). One review even said she had D cups and when I saw her and mentioned that review, she even agreed that's exaggerated.
SDAG screening is too personal and I thought this hobby is about discretion and anonymity. There are my favorites at the AMPs since they make me special and I've gotten great service. In terms of tipping (prices) I follow the others reviews and what they've left. I don't put anymore cause I don't want it to be like the housing market hiking prices.
My 2 cents or whatever it's worth. Let's move on from Cris.
[QUOTE=TheDudeInSd;5107331]Agree 100% with this guy. I also am not a "schill". You guys can think what you want. The bottom line is 1 thing. CHEMISTRY! If a girl from SDAG or FEC or anybody else does not feel relaxed them YMMV. These girls are not robots. They don't just give you guys great service because you have a pulse and pay the minimum. Learn how to play the game and respect them and ease into it knowing that 2 or 3 sessions down the road is the goal. If you do not have the funds for this hobby go to a spa and get a cheap shitty performance.
I have used all 3 groups in this area and I think long term. There is no such thing as 'kickbacks'.
Grow up stop bitching if you have no money.
Not sure why I am wasting my time helping you guys with so many reviews.
Sheeeeeesh.[/QUOTE]So you're saying if you have a lackluster appointment with a provider, you usually go back 2-3 more times to see if she "warms up"? Sounds like a way to waste a TON of time. Why not only repeat with girls that are good to you right out of the gate? That seems like a much smarter strategy and better use of your time.
Even if you're financially secure enough to waste the cash without worry, who wants to waste all that *time* with mediocre performances in search of the RARE girl who flips from cold fish to porn star after 2-3 visits?
[QUOTE=Wahoo2000;5108253]So you're saying if you have a lackluster appointment with a provider, you usually go back 2-3 more times to see if she "warms up"? Sounds like a way to waste a TON of time. Why not only repeat with girls that are good to you right out of the gate? That seems like a much smarter strategy and better use of your time.
Even if you're financially secure enough to waste the cash without worry, who wants to waste all that *time* with mediocre performances in search of the RARE girl who flips from cold fish to porn star after 2-3 visits[/QUOTE]I don't think that's what he's saying that at all (and this is just how I'm interpreting it, as I read it).
It sounded to me like he was saying that there are folks who mistakenly believe they're going to get a provider's best service, just because they show up. With how roughly some of the ladies get rated, just imagine if they have they're own boards where they rate us. As a collective group, I'd bet that the K--girl, monger (hate that word) group, would probably get lower ratings than the ladies, on average.
So there's a "you get what you give" element, that can take different forms (personality, attitude, prowess, money), but there's effort that people should expect to put in, in order to get that higher level of service.
I also don't believe Dude is suggesting people keep throwing money at bad experiences. That's just stupid.
But, if you have a good time, with a provider you find attractive, and hit it off well with them, then those extra visits can potentially bump you into a higher service tier. I totally agree with this. It's like going to a strip club. 10 guys can get dances from the same dancer, and the range of the dance quality could be all over the place.
So it's like, be prepared to put some effort into making their jobs easier. By and large they're not swooning over us and gossiping to their friends about the 5's & 4's that showed up grungy, in full pussy-destroyer mode.
Writing this made me curious how my reviews on "their board" would be. Hahaha.
I believe I've only seen one report or so on Moon. Is she a hidden gem no one want to talk about. Ha Is she as good as Ash. Sounds like she's much better looking, but how about performance? Looking to see Ash or Moon, any feedback would be great.
[QUOTE=Wahoo2000;5108253]So you're saying if you have a lackluster appointment with a provider, you usually go back 2-3 more times to see if she "warms up"? Sounds like a way to waste a TON of time.
?[/QUOTE]No, I have had a rare bad attitude from a few girls over the years. What I am saying is that it is all about the approach in terms of what service you get. If you go in expecting a robot then it's a crapshoot. If you go in and talk to them for the first 10 minutes to help them relax and feel comfortable around you, show them that you care about them as a person then you will reap the rewards. I'm saying that many of the people on this website are taking the wrong approach therefore they are getting bad results. I typically do not leave negative reviews because I do not want to hurt the girls business. I might not go back and see them again, but I usually will not leave a negative review. There have been many negative reviews where I have gone in and seen the same girl and got spectacular service because my approach was different.
[QUOTE=GdAloha;5108355]I believe I've only seen one report or so on Moon. Is she a hidden gem no one want to talk about. Ha Is she as good as Ash. Sounds like she's much better looking, but how about performance? Looking to see Ash or Moon, any feedback would be great.[/QUOTE]Keeping in mind reviews are, of course, purely subjective, Moon is quickly picking up great reviews, especially in the looks dept (10/9/8/8/9). Performance (8/8/8/7/9).
Ms. Moon.
TER I'd: 354859.
Rating 8. 52.
Looks 8. 8 / Performance 8.
I was planning to see Ash this weekend, but Moon's got me like that meme of the guy walking w / his gf and breaking his neck to look at the one passing them. If I weren't going out of town for the holidays, I'd see both.
[QUOTE=TheDudeInSd;5108373]No, I have had a rare bad attitude from a few girls over the years. What I am saying is that it is all about the approach in terms of what service you get. If you go in expecting a robot then it's a crapshoot. If you go in and talk to them for the first 10 minutes to help them relax and feel comfortable around you, show them that you care about them as a person then you will reap the rewards. I'm saying that many of the people on this website are taking the wrong approach therefore they are getting bad results. I typically do not leave negative reviews because I do not want to hurt the girls business. I might not go back and see them again, but I usually will not leave a negative review. There have been many negative reviews where I have gone in and seen the same girl and got spectacular service because my approach was different[/QUOTE]Interesting, does anyone else leave negative reviews?
I do leave negative reviews to warn, us hobbyist, and avoid being ripped off.
[QUOTE=DragonWolf;5108390]Keeping in mind reviews are, of course, purely subjective, Moon is quickly picking up great reviews, especially in the looks dept (10/9/8/8/9). Performance (8/8/8/7/9).
Ms. Moon.
TER I'd: 354859.
Rating 8. 52.
Looks 8. 8 / Performance 8.
I was planning to see Ash this weekend, but Moon's got me like that meme of the guy walking w / his gf and breaking his neck to look at the one passing them. If I weren't going out of town for the holidays, I'd see both.[/QUOTE]I wish I had the funds to see both. Ha I was looking on TER and those reviews on the looks for me thinking who I should see. Those are all some pretty high ratings. Hopefully someone on the board can give some insight between the two. Is Moon giving Ash a run for her money? Decision, decisions.
[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;5108541]Interesting, does anyone else leave negative reviews?
I do leave negative reviews to warn, us hobbyist, and avoid being ripped off.[/QUOTE]Yes I'll leave a bad review, precisely for the reasons you mentioned. Even if someone has the money to blow, most of us hate losing the time to have a crappy session. I thought that's what this board was all about. Sharing the good ones and warning others about the bad ones.
[QUOTE=GdAloha;5108709]I wish I had the funds to see both. Ha I was looking on TER and those reviews on the looks for me thinking who I should see. Those are all some pretty high ratings. Hopefully someone on the board can give some insight between the two. Is Moon giving Ash a run for her money? Decision, decisions[/QUOTE]I think they're very different offerings. Not having seen Moon (yet?) I get the impression that she beats Ash in looks & age (and height haha). Ash, is (from what I've heard) the seasoned pro & an energizer bunny who'll fuck your dick off. Ash also seems to offers a "niche" service, shall we call it.
I'm interested to see what others, who've seen both have to say, and am considering seeing both, this weekend, if I can comfortably afford to do so. Otherwise, it, so far, sounds like either pick is a win.
[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;5108541]Interesting, does anyone else leave negative reviews?
I do leave negative reviews to warn, us hobbyist, and avoid being ripped off.[/QUOTE]Outside of the agency scene, I'd definitely be more prone to leave a negative review, should the need arise, but only to provide any warning to others to help them avoid a potentially bad situation.
If leaving a negative review, I try to be as objective as possible about it.
For the agency ladies, I'm definitely more careful about my reviews. I really try to be objective, because sometimes my disappointment is not finding what I'm looking for, or just having an off day myself and not being able to perform at my best. I have a review of Tatum where I tried to be careful, because I was ultimately disappointed and wouldn't repeat, but I could've easily seen it playing out really well. At the peak of the session, it was great, but anytime I lost momentum, she'd joke that "he" didn't like her, or wasn't attracted to her. It really frustrated me, because it was like she was willing it into existence. I kept telling her to stop saying that, and I think she may have thought I was being playful, but it was really bothering me, and for that reason, I wouldn't risk a repeat, regardless of her positive elements.
I saw a most recent review for a provider who I haven't seen in years, but she was, at the time, easily one of my ATFs. And the review was pretty harsh. I read it thinking, how is such a bad experience even possible, and it seemed like there was a lot of emotion in it. Some reviews just seem mean spirited, and that doesn't help anyone.
If I'm going to mention things I didn't like, I try to point out things I did like, to keep it fair.
I mentioned being more careful on the agency side, because they (the bookers, and to an extent, the ladies) read the reviews, and share that info internally. I'm not looking to burn bridges.