The Rat Trap

[QUOTE=Grapp150;6098542]I have seen Jayda, Kween, and Maya all from WA. All good times, good looking girls, and never issues. Wayne has a system in place and if he is the one giving you a number, then it is his right to tell who can give it out. I see no issues with WA saying that. Not sure why you would have an issue with that?

Grapp150.[/QUOTE]You've also seen Dream and Jamie.

Those two were constant headaches because they refuse to follow the single rule I have, the safety rule.

They were subsequently dropped.

She's brand new. This was her third date. She's naive and asked me to be severely overprotective of her.

When I asked if she understood that she just gave some random member from out of town permission to pass her around she said she did not understand that that is what he meant and wanted me to handle it.

It was not my fuck up to handle.

So I posted a simple quick post to get the attention of pharm and any memory looking to circumvent the system which would get them blocked and put on the ignore list.

I'm not sure if Jayda will be back with me or if she will continue on with pharm or another member.

But especially now with the HOA circling like pathetic little vultures waiting to pounce on the slightest hint of a chance to discredit me by attacking the girls Jayda has to understand it's not all about her and that this is a serious breach.

I also have to question the motives of a visitor leaving the next day for asking if they could pass her around.

A rule carved in granite here is that only the gatekeeper gives numbers.

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6098731]A rule carved in granite here is that only the gatekeeper gives numbers.[/QUOTE]Show us that rule. Please. We showed you the Rules about Trannies and Posting Digits. You decided to ignore and forge ahead.

Don't say protocol or tradition either. I've already explained that part. You removed all the established "rules" when you brought SWs into the mix. Now you want to have firm guidelines? Really?

We'll be waiting for your granite rule from the rules of the Forum.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Grain56;6098648]You certainly have the right to your opinion. I am not questioning "his girls" performance as a provider. I am sure you've had a good time with them.

However, my point is that the girl in question here owns herself and isn't "owned" by WA. If she wants others to share her digits, she 100% has that right. Again, WA does not own her. If she isn't or doesn't want to be solely represented by him, maybe that's a loud signal that she doesn't want him to be her exclusive distributor for some other reason that is well-known by most but may be oblivious to others.

Also remember, she is a human being that can make her own decisions on who can or can't share her digits. If WA doesn't like that fact that she can make that call, then HE needs to cut the ties with her and let her go free. She obviously has no loyalty to WA. She has that right. She found a way to make triple, even quadruple her normal rates and she's going to run with it!.[/QUOTE]I have tried to acquire this beautiful girls digits and I've been told no. I do not understand why we can't share her? I thought that was the point of a UTR. I love ebony women.

Bkoobs.

This is proof positive of a gorilla pimp. A girl gives permission to have her number handed out and the monger is using the same, exact same criteria WhineyAss is using YET He says the number can't be given out. Fuck what the girl says. This is one of the pimp behaviors we warned you about.

Talk about keeping girls from members and messing with their business. This is a prime example of what Whitney's was crying about. As Grain said, WhineyAss is 99% of the problem.

The ONLY problem here is WhineyAss's attempt at being "that guy" is eroded. His reward will get diluted or he won't get it at all. He is showing you who he is.

In other words, WA is these ebony girls "massa" and they must bow to his will? That shit don't work here. This should open everyone's eyes. This guy is fucked up!! Now this is how you destroy a site. Not here a year and BS, lies and deceit follows him.

The girl should dictate who can disperse her number, UNLESS her pimp intercedes. Along with Grain, I challenge anyone to come up with that "rule in granite", where only ONE person is a wg's gatekeeper. We're waiting WhineyAss. You said you'd answer all questions. Why lie about everything?

Stay safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.

Dam Wayne, you really need to give it a rest. This is just too much. I am not a member of the so called HOA. Just somebody that likes to come in and read for a little entertainment and maybe some info.

You are totally getting out of hand with this shit. Some observations I've noticed lately:

First, I doubt very seriously you're paying $250 for these hood rats.

The guy comes on here to defend you saying he saw three of your girls and you correct him that it was actually FIVE of your girls! Kind of creepy you keep track.

You post scenarios where you have to rescue the girls, but they were under YOUR control at the time correct? A hood rat is going to be a hood rat and there is nothing you can do about that.

You say these hood rats are your "friends" until they inevitably become hood rats and screw you over like hood rats do. They are not your friends, please don't tell me you're that gullible. And don't think your hood rats are sitting around just waiting for you to send somebody their way. They're doing what hood rats do and either slinging it in the trap or walking. The only difference is they're sure is hell not getting $250 for it.

So dude, just let it go it go. You haven't won and aren't going to win any arguments against the you titled HOA. If you were actually trying to do members a favor you would pimp the girls for what YOU'RE paying (minus commissions of course), not more than we could get an ACTUAL escort or some massage parlor action for. Have you ever compared "your" girls to Orlo's or one of the 'credible' gatekeepers? One of your girls was recently on vacation for prostitution. 2nd prostitution arrest in less than 6 months! Maybe one of the first things you should teach them is how not to get caught up in a sting. Just saying. I have nothing against you, just stop dragging my beloved forum down in the muck. We don't come on here for drama or to be told how to abide to certain protocols. We are grown men and you are not reinventing the wheel, you're just trying to get a free ride from it. Please, just tone it down, lose the ego and it will make it much easier for you and your little harem.

[QUOTE=WHINEYASS380]Jayda has left the building, for now.[/QUOTE]Maybe a smart girl with a keen sense of smell and sight? She can spot a rat and smell BS?

Stay safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.

From the UTR Thread as the Jayda event unfolded:

[QUOTE=PharmHobby;6097915]JAYDA ROUND 2:Last night in Orlando and couldn't resist seeing Jayda again. She is really a sweet kid.... She's just getting started

and granted me permission to share her contact info.

Same requirements as WayneAshley- seniors with 200 posts. No BS or drama please.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6097993]You do not have that permission.[/QUOTE]A real man would have NOT handled this in the manner you did. Instead of lashing out in the Forum openly, you could have sent a DM to Pharm, discussed / debated the reasons this may or may not be a good idea behind the scenes to keep you and him from humiliation. Mostly you. Then allowed him to recant (if he chose to) the offer to help Gatekeep for her like he did after the fact. He seems like a reasonable person.

Instead, you decided to put out a derogatory post towards your adversary / competition. You did this similar type thing to Bertox. I have to wonder behind the scenes if WayneAshley's extensive background checks and thorough verification (which he has said at one time to include getting real personal info via text to verify you) of Pharm was concerning and helped Pharm decide to bow from Jayda, quickly.

Maybe not, just a Tin Hat theory. BUT, he has admitted to doing that intrusive check on you before he shares digits, and this provider admittedly was on Double Secret Verification Protocol. IF you ever meet up with one of "His Girls" and there's a slip up or it goes off the track at some point, you can ALL see how WA rolls in those situations. He's 2 for 2 on this of late. There are other similar situations out there from him too, but let's stick with the current. It's like playing Russian Roulette.

He might have some found decent talent as some have pointed out, but so do a lot of other guys WITHOUT the intrusion of your personal data! Checking onto your Info provider is just as critical as it is a provider's reviews.

[QUOTE=PharmHobby;6098396]Update for the board- Jayda texted me back and said she doesn't want me providing her contact info. Please do not reach out to me for this.[/QUOTE]Sorry you had to experience WA's idea of Gatekeeper. I know you meant no harm. We tried to warn and warn that WA's a Boiling Kettle of Acid. The minute he goes off, he goes off the deep end and spreads his poison. We don't know exactly how it went down, but you could tell that WA was not going to let one of "his girls" stop reporting to him exclusively. Again, sorry.

[QUOTE=Grain56;6098422]RAISED PIMP HAND: Gee. I wonder what made Jayda have a "sudden" change of heart on this. Must have been an awkward conversation to have. Telling her that she can't make a decision about herself on her own. I hope it doesn't cause her to lose business from taking away her ability to expand her network by having others freely share info about her.
Grain 56.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6098921]Jayda has left the building, for now.[/QUOTE]Maybe WA's bragging about (he said he advertises for) the Forum with the girls backfired on him. No one ever says not to show the Forum or talk about it, but many don't go around pushing it on the first date, so to speak. LOL. I am guessing Jayda was shown the Forum where WA could point out what a highly accepted "manager" he is by selective post sharing.

I bet she went back on here later on, then SAW all the BS WhineyAshley spews on the Forum. The way he controls his harem and read all about how WA basically took claim for her total existence, heart, body and soul. And a split of the profits.

I am sure she did not take it too well.

Grain 56.

P.S. WhineyAshley is wanting to blame his imagined HOA as the reason one of his girls got the hell out of his Pimp Grip. I would say with all the confidence in the world is that it is due to WA and WA alone.

The trap has been entertaining the past few days I'm not one for internet beef but the recent talk about the latest batch of 'UTR' providers has left me with questions, mainly are these girls really being pimped? For the members that actually saw Kween, Maya or Jayda were the donations set before or after you made contact with the provider? I had a sneaky suspicion with Raven as I reported I've seen her for SW prices before she left town then maybe a month after my post it was reported that she was looking for help in the UTR thread but for a donation almost 3 times more than my SW donation. Like I said I only come to this thread for the entertainment but if these are pimped hos it's an interesting way to run a stable I would think one would have better luck on one of the sites but what do I know I'm not a pimp.

The evidence is in your face. Connect the dots. WG's being offered for $250 hourly as undocumented UTR material. Nothing really against a ho being pimped but don't pimp / simp the monger. We all see it for what it is.

This is how one guy comes on board and attempts to blow established protocols by going against the grain (no pun intended) and doing things his way.

BTW. Still waiting for that "gatekeeper exclusivity" rule. Even though you claim it's written in stone, a simple digital reposting of that rule here will suffice. <crickets.

Stay safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.

[QUOTE=Nightowl21;6099239]Dam Wayne, you really need to give it a rest. This is just too much. I am not a member of the so called HOA. Just somebody that likes to come in and read for a little entertainment and maybe some info.

You are totally getting out of hand with this shit. Some observations I've noticed lately:

First, I doubt very seriously you're paying $250 for these hood rats.

The guy comes on here to defend you saying he saw three of your girls and you correct him that it was actually FIVE of your girls! Kind of creepy you keep track.

You post scenarios where you have to rescue the girls, but they were under YOUR control at the time correct? A hood rat is going to be a hood rat and there is nothing you can do about that.

You say these hood rats are your "friends" until they inevitably become hood rats and screw you over like hood rats do. They are not your friends, please don't tell me you're that gullible. And don't think your hood rats are sitting around just waiting for you to send somebody their way. They're doing what hood rats do and either slinging it in the trap or walking. The only difference is they're sure is hell not getting $250 for it.

So dude, just let it go it go. You haven't won and aren't going to win any arguments against the you titled HOA. If you were actually trying to do members a favor you would pimp the girls for what YOU'RE paying (minus commissions of course), not more than we could get an ACTUAL escort or some massage parlor action for. Have you ever compared "your" girls to Orlo's or one of the 'credible' gatekeepers? One of your girls was recently on vacation for prostitution. 2nd prostitution arrest in less than 6 months! Maybe one of the first things you should teach them is how not to get caught up in a sting. Just saying. I have nothing against you, just stop dragging my beloved forum down in the muck. We don't come on here for drama or to be told how to abide to certain protocols. We are grown men and you are not reinventing the wheel, you're just trying to get a free ride from it. Please, just tone it down, lose the ego and it will make it much easier for you and your little harem.[/QUOTE]Hood rats??

Pretty much don't need to read past that to see who you are.

I don't know where you get,$250 from at all.

None of the UTRs in question have ever been arrested for prostitution.

I pass numbers for a number of SWs, doesn't make them My Girls.

UTRs have always had certain protocols.

And finally.

Much of Carribean Dream's drama played out in the forum for all to see and are the reason for the protocol.

And the funny thing is it was developed in part by someone you just claimed to support.

I will admit that the Hood ***** post was a mistake.

That was explained by an actual friend of the board and respected member.

You seem wholly informed on most of what you're comments on.

05/19/2022. Post #10807.

[QUOTE=WhineyAss380] No One gives out a UTRs number but her gatekeeper...

No One gives out a UTRs number but her gatekeeper Period.

There are security protocols in place that should prevent anyone from getting the number from anyone else...[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, he wrote it. LOL I guess he was in his admin role at the time. LOL!! You can't make this shit up.

He's showing us how one individuals ego can destroy, dilute and dismantle a good thing. A true ass clown. My granny would say, "he's too big for his britches. ". LOL.

Receipts. I bring receipts with my truths. Where's yours? We're waiting....<crickets>..

Stay safe out there and happy hunting.

[QUOTE=NCHunter;6099959]05/19/2022. Post #10807.

Unfortunately, he wrote it. LOL I guess he was in his admin role at the time. LOL!! You can't make this shit up.

He's showing us how one individuals ego can destroy, dilute and dismantle a good thing. A true ass clown. My granny would say, "he's too big for his britches. ". LOL.

Receipts. I bring receipts with my truths. Where's yours? We're waiting....<crickets>..

Stay safe out there and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]The Wayne guy had a decent white utr, until this clown offered her as a sacrifice to that RPL / Rich5 handjob and Rich knocked her up. TRUE.

No telling how many drug addicted prostitutes Rich has impregnated. They will all come knocking once they run the genealogy report. If he has family / legit kids, I feel for them. Dude is a total embarrassment to himself and the hobby.

[QUOTE=Nightowl21;6099239]Dam Wayne, you really need to give it a rest. This is just too much. I am not a member of the so called HOA. Just somebody that likes to come in and read for a little entertainment and maybe some info.

You are totally getting out of hand with this shit. Some observations I've noticed lately:

First, I doubt very seriously you're paying $250 for these hood rats.

The guy comes on here to defend you saying he saw three of your girls and you correct him that it was actually FIVE of your girls! Kind of creepy you keep track.

You post scenarios where you have to rescue the girls, but they were under YOUR control at the time correct? A hood rat is going to be a hood rat and there is nothing you can do about that.

You say these hood rats are your "friends" until they inevitably become hood rats and screw you over like hood rats do. They are not your friends, please don't tell me you're that gullible. And don't think your hood rats are sitting around just waiting for you to send somebody their way. They're doing what hood rats do and either slinging it in the trap or walking. The only difference is they're sure is hell not getting $250 for it.

So dude, just let it go it go. You haven't won and aren't going to win any arguments against the you titled HOA. If you were actually trying to do members a favor you would pimp the girls for what YOU'RE paying (minus commissions of course), not more than we could get an ACTUAL escort or some massage parlor action for. Have you ever compared "your" girls to Orlo's or one of the 'credible' gatekeepers? One of your girls was recently on vacation for prostitution. 2nd prostitution arrest in less than 6 months! Maybe one of the first things you should teach them is how not to get caught up in a sting. Just saying. I have nothing against you, just stop dragging my beloved forum down in the muck. We don't come on here for drama or to be told how to abide to certain protocols. We are grown men and you are not reinventing the wheel, you're just trying to get a free ride from it. Please, just tone it down, lose the ego and it will make it much easier for you and your little harem.[/QUOTE]Of course he would know, he because hes outside watching.

[QUOTE=PaulAtreides;6100250]The Wayne guy had a decent white utr, until this clown offered her as a sacrifice to that RPL / Rich5 handjob and Rich knocked her up. TRUE.

No telling how many drug addicted prostitutes Rich has impregnated. They will all come knocking once they run the genealogy report. If he has family / legit kids, I feel for them. Dude is a total embarrassment to himself and the hobby.[/QUOTE]Not sure what your problem with Rich has to do with me. But TRUE? You say that with some authority.

What I know is this, an hour after seeing RP469 she hmu to tell me he got t her pregnant.

So TRUE? Really?

I advised her the same as I advise every UTR.

No BBFS. It may get you a couple customers but it will lose you more.

She said she never did BBFS. (, They lie)).

Like I tried to explain to another know if all.

They do what they do. Just because they wrap yours doesn't mean they wrap theirs.

It's up to us to decide if we want that risk.

The Nubian Trinity all seear that they CFS. I honestly believe it of two. The third forgets that we didn't on the first date or second.

After you came unhinged PMing me about how nasty he is for having sex with prostitutes I had to ignore you.

I didn't lose the little white girl
She was just too much self inflicted drama getting instantaneously pregnant and being dropped off by randos in random places. I suspected she was running her own game or had someone else running her on the side. I was right and they were featured here for child trafficking
I dropped her

She actually hmu two or three weeks ago
I'm not interested