The Rat Trap

Because we have changed your behavior. You are now not as aggressive, demeaning and disrespectful towards fellow mongers as you were before you were called out. Thank you.

*Although you may still maintain them, you no longer boast about the registries you kept noting monger activities with the wg's you promote. Thank you.

*You no longer write long, hard to read posts with no breaks between paragraphs. Thank you. BUT you have to learn to stop spacing each sentence.

*You also stopped promoting tranny's on this site. Thank you.
BUT you still try to pimp SW'ERS as UTR's.

You, yes you are still a big liar. You claim you can't see my posts but we all know human nature. You've peeked. LOL! Not only can't you effectively lie to us, you definitely can't lie to yourself. I do understand your logic in my case. The points I bring up are indefensible so what better way to NOT address them than to LIE and PRETEND you don't see them? I been chewing your lying fat ass up here in the Trap so you stick your head in the sand (block me) cause you can't handle the truth.

Riddle me this, what other UTR in any city is agreeable to gangbangs? What you failed to note in your definition of an UTR is limited clientele AND a gang bang throws that out the window. Not surprised, just more of the same from you (lies). AND you didn't know she was a SW'ER and YOU wrote "she only walks her neighborhood and has limited clientele". Either you. Lied then or you're lying now, liar. LOL!!

What a merry-go-round. From sw to gangbang to utr to general. Lies can't be kept straight.

Stay safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6089123]Not sure what the HOA said, actually I do but I'm not going to waste my time unignoring them.

But whatever they wrote it started some interest in Kitty.[/QUOTE]Your Ignorance must be your Bliss. If I were in your shoes, I would never-ever ignore my biggest adversaries.

Speaking of Ignorant Bliss, you keep suggesting that you keep getting called out for passing out digits. No one EVER suggested that you (or anyone else on the Forum) shouldn't ever make posts offering Phone Numbers to Members. Where most of the issues surrounding you arise if from the manner in which you go about doing it. Combined with the endless lies you keep telling and your flip-flopping positions as you are outed. NC just mentioned several other things as well.

Let's take Kitty. You attempted multiple times to Promote SWs as UTR Providers. SWs that you ADMIT are SWs. That is an issue with many members, not just one or two members.

Kitty is an admitted (by you) SW that regularly hangs out / hung out in a Drug House. You first posted about her in the General Threads saying she WALKS and that you claimed that you knew her for a year (although you never reported on her) THEN suddenly decided to move her promotion to the UTR Thread because: 1) you said that she didn't like being known as a SW (that also does GB's) and most importantly, 2) You crave to be a Gatekeeper so desperately, as you apparently see it as the Zenith of your life, that you decided to change your story about her to now being someone that is UTR, simply to match your new narrative.

Those are the types of things that will destroy and, in your case have totally destroyed your Integrity and Credibility. No one knowingly wants to deal with a liar. No one wants to deal with a Pimp on the Forum. No one wants to be told a girl is an UTR (by anyone's definition that knows what a UTR is) Provider when she is actually a SW, an advertiser, a Trap House Girl, a Train-Pulling Gang Banger, etc. No one wants the results of their dates to be scrutinized by you after the fact so you can gain intel on Mongers. No one wants to deal with a Gatekeeper that has had more drama and lies about situations follow his Harem than anyone I can recall in a long time.

You attempted many times for Pimp-Out SWs that commonly walk the streets as someone by telling Members that they need to exclusively Hit You Up for digits to be vetted by you and deals made through you for girls that openly walk the streets and get into stranger's cars all day long. You rarely mention where these SWs could be found in case a Member didn't want to go through your extensive "anti-doosh" (sic) screening process or bypass your involvement in the negotiation in the transaction. Collect all the digits you want, offer them all you want BUT don't require Members to have to Hit You Up to find these SWs.

Remember, when you actually posted a couple times WHERE the SW could be found along with your offer of digits, that no one challenged or commented on your posts? I certainly do.

Hell, I even tried to help you out the other day when you commented on a couple girls with their asses hanging out in the CBJBC area. I asked if you collected their phone numbers when you acknowledged that you also saw them. Since it was known openly where these girls can be found, I actually offered you an opening to now say "HMU" for digits on the Forum where no one would have said a word about it. It was a free gift from me to you to help. I am not above posting helpful tidbits even to both of the Emperors of The Forum, Quasi-Pimp-Quasi.

The biggest problem you have to overcome these days to get where you crave to be (King Gatekeeper / Pimp-Quasi) is more of overcoming the horrendous reputation and total loss of credibility you've carved out for yourself in the Forum from your past antics.

Since one of the purposes of the forum is to employ a level of safety and integrity between members, I think that it's important for members to not only check out the reputation of the Provider that they want to see. It is just as important that someone check out the reputation of the Gatekeeper or digit provider. I think that some of the interest you say has picked up about Kitty has quickly waned once some of the people asking for digits checked out the reputation on the Forum of both you and your Harem. An important part of the exchange of information between members should be openly shared. And has been. LOL.

It is refreshing to see that once you knew you were over a barrel about the truth about to be revealed concerning Kitty's SW past from my visit to the "exclusive" roads she walks, that you did the right thing and try to make amends by finally redacting your lies and tell the truth about Kitty.

There's another member on here that when they were repeatedly called out and proven beyond doubt about all their multiple lies, that all they would do is stack more lies on top of the shit pile and make repeated 3rd grade level insults about age, cognitive abilities and other's mamas. You are kind of right about what a HOA does, it keeps shit form piling up too high. Eventually, the shit gets cleaned up.

Grain 56.

P.S.

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6089118]...she doesn't fit the HOA's version of UTR, even though I've never seen them review one or bring one in.

So I know her from a trap house I hung out in for a bit...

...HOA cringe.[/QUOTE]Stupid question.

You say you never seen a UTR Review from me? Well, I've never seen a review from you in the Sugar Baby, Eros, Heather from Cassleberry, Pictures, Truck Stop or BBBJ / BBFS Threads. Why is that?

Stupid question gets legit answer though. It's probably for 2 reasons.

1) It's been a couple of years since I actually did review one in the Forum. I have never been denied receiving UTR digits when I've asked, but rarely do. I could have been on PRitchie's infamous "approved" list if I had just asked. His own words. Look it up. LOL. I even get digits passed to me via DM that I don't ask for. When I have seen one of late, I didn't review as I don't need to promote a girl that is UTR is she is a solid provider. She usually gets enough good press without my 2 cents. Also, that way, creepy Gatekeeper-Quasi's (like you) can't go back to the provider and creepily recap the date and gather intel about me.

2) I usually don't play too much in that sandbox because for every great Gatekeeper, there are too many that are not so great and I don't want to be in the spotlight from a gatekeeper (again, especially from a Gatekeeper-Quasi, like yourself) if something doesn't work out for whatever reason. Think Bertox's recent experience with one of "your girls" where you attempted to get out your heavy Pimp-Quasi hand against him because your girl was a piece of trash that wasted hours of his time. Before you had both sides, you made a decision and had your daggers wagging. Then when he accepted to meet you, you sharted and then attempted to ghost him meeting you by giving him fake addresses. Twice. I prefer Some Advertisers, SWs and lots of UTRs that are not Forum fodder. They do it for the enjoyment of my company as much as for cash. At least that's what I like to think and tell myself. LOL.

P. P.S. I have this question from one of your earlier Kelly Posts. Tell us the truth now, concerning Kelly's "fuckable ass". Is her "fuckable ass", "really fuckable" like you said? I don't think you made that clear. LOL.

Not even going to see what the bitchsplaining HOA has to save.

But everyone should consider what drivers these losers to go so crazy about a member finding easier ways for other members to find pussy on a site dedicated to finding pussy.

All these clowns do is try to force their vision of how the game should be played.

You do you and I'll do pussy.

[QUOTE=WhineyAss380]Again

Not even going to see what the bitchsplaining HOA has to save.

But everyone should consider what drivers these losers to go so crazy about a member finding easier ways for other members to find pussy on a site dedicated to finding pussy.

All these clowns do is try to force their vision of how the game should be played.

You do you and I'll do pussy.[/QUOTE]Are you really this stupid that you don't get it? We are all here for pussy. Let me clarify that, some members, such as yourself are also here for tranny's as you wrote you don't discriminate and even attempted to hand out their numbers here (which you lied about) on the forum. Guess you're doing pussy (You are? You confessed here online "it" ain't working. Your words) and getting done by dick. But I digress.

I personally don't collect numbers but my posts are detailed providing location, costs, description, time of day where wg, etc. Can be found. I've done this in various locations nationwide. I don't beg for attention by recruiting trap ho's and SW'ers palming them off as UTR's just to be that "guy".

There are legit gatekeeper's doing a helluva job connecting members to their contacts with none of the drama WhineyAss380 provides. He's known to collaborate with the wg's he promotes, sets prices and WILL come after you if there's a dispute. He takes the word of a wg over a trusted monger. Just search his previous posts all over this site. He's a shady, shifty, slimy and slanderous character.

Kudos to him for the 1 or 2 connections he's made but all his BS nullifies those actions. He claims not to read these posts but don't be fooled. If you do read his previous posts you'll see his integrity has been compromised as he's been caught lying numerous times. He's checking out these posts and as I said earlier, claims he isn't to avoid addressing these claims. There are receipts. We can see all his past posts. Unless he cleans up his act, hellnever achieve the glory his "fat, unattractive, limp dick" ass (his words) is attempting to achieve.

Remember, no one is against a good plate of wg's contact info. It's that side of BS you serve that comes with it. I see you peeking. LOL.

Stay safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6089921]Not even going to see what the bitchsplaining HOA has to save.

But everyone should consider what drivers these losers to go so crazy about a member finding easier ways for other members to find pussy on a site dedicated to finding pussy.

All these clowns do is try to force their vision of how the game should be played.

You do you and I'll do pussy.[/QUOTE]If you are doing it your way with no regard to the standard protocols or definitions / classes of providers, why did you suddenly "change" promoting your SW from the UTR Thread to General Thread?

The ones you are complaining about are not trying to be Pimp-Quasi or Gatekeeper-Quasi, so there's nothing to force a vision anywhere. People that give reviews and making reports is all I see you being jealous yet paranoid about. You are so worried about your Forum "Status" when you, yourself are your worst enemy. No one is trying to take away your crown as the bottom-feeder Pimp of the Forum.

The only thing I see happening is based on your continued potentially dangerous, intrusive and deceptive behaviors is that you are being called out for lying about the quality of and pedigree of your Stable of Stars.

Grain 56.

P.S.

There must be a common denominator in this factor if you are the ONLY one getting called out about your behavior from your believed-to-exist HOA. Hint: Look in the Mirror for the answer.

From the General Reports Thread:

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6064327]NEW GIRL KITTY: Not sure where to put this one. She's not exactly UTR and not completely SW. More of a Hood ***** I think.

Please Note: -> They work within a small client list <-
Please Note: ->and walk around a small part of their hood.<-

Anyway. No gps and very open minded. As always HMU for her for now number.[/QUOTE]From the Gangbangs and Trains Thread:

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6085739]KITTY:

Please Note: ->I originally thought she was a SW because of how I met her. But that offended her, she doesn't walk.<-

Please Note: ->She'll do groups if you got them.<-

Hmu for numbers.[/QUOTE]Above is about the most perfect example of WHY you keep getting called out in the Forum. You can't tell the Truth about any of the Girls you represent. I don't make the rules. I am only trying to help maintain Integrity in the Threads.

First, she is a walker. Then she isn't. First, she has a small client list. Then she is willing to do groups.

Why is the truth important? Because there are men that have certain criteria that that look for in selecting a provider. There are men that do NOT want to date a SW. There are men that do. There are men that don't care because many of the Advertisers have been SWs. There are men that do NOT want to date a Gang Bang Queen. There are men that do. There are men that don't care. There are some that do not want to date a girl that will allow CIP. There are some that do. There are some that don't care.

There are men that want TRUE UTRs as it is generally defined, not as you define it. They do not want oft passed around, unproven performance, drama bringing skinks that are "managed" by someone that has no proven credibility in the Forum.

Anyone who is pointed out trying to violate the integrity of the Forum, is not against ONE person. The pointer-outers are against the deception being passed off as truth from someone who's main goal is to try and gain stature. Passing along and accepting women involves a HUGE amount of trust between the two men. A proven liar lacks that level of trust. Some are not as familiar with other members as others. That's also where the Forum is very valuable. Men that do not know someone's reputation may choose to see a girl based on a single post that looks good. Men that know the Poster has nothing but a Lying Drama Cloud over their head, will stay away.

I bet that if the men that asked for digits recently from you, looked at your background that they would never have asked you for the digits. If they read about you and your Lying Drama Cloud, after you provided the digits, I bet that they did not call Kitty. Let's take a survey and find out.

You get mad at the messengers. You should be mad at yourself for trying to dive so deeply into something that you, yourself don't understand the gist of and even worse, haven't built the reputation to execute successfully.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Grain56;6090343]From the General Reports Thread:

From the Gangbangs and Trains Thread:

Above is about the most perfect example of WHY you keep getting called out in the Forum. You can't tell the Truth about any of the Girls you represent. I don't make the rules. I am only trying to help maintain Integrity in the Threads.

First, she is a walker. Then she isn't. First, she has a small client list. Then she is willing to do groups.

Why is the truth important? Because there are men that have certain criteria that that look for in selecting a provider. There are men that do NOT want to date a SW. There are men that do. There are men that don't care because many of the Advertisers have been SWs. There are men that do NOT want to date a Gang Bang Queen. There are men that do. There are men that don't care. There are some that do not want to date a girl that will allow CIP. There are some that do. There are some that don't care..[/QUOTE]I agree with Grain 56 on this assessment.

From the UTR (that aren't really UTRs) section on the UTR Thread:

[QUOTE=JourneyMan195;6091141]OUCH! JUST TRYING TO HELP: My post was to share some info about a cute spinner that posts very seldom on STG. Not sure why it bothers you that I provided this. Best for you not to fret over it. Have a great day.[/QUOTE]Your Review is welcomed in the Forum. We just have a LOT of problems with people posting in the Wrong Threads making many of the Threads polluted. The "harm" comes from misclassifying an advertiser. We had one of the most integrity-filled UTR Threads for many years. Lately, some members with Gatekeeper-Quasi and Pimp-Quasi Dreams have tried to basically create an UTR Thread filled with SWs, Hood Ho's and other Disastrous Providers in which some aren't mentally ready to be a true UTR Provider and has causes multiple issues with Members. Currently, he has his panties in a wad (for numerous reasons actually) because he was being called out on his deception and it proved BEYOND a doubt he was lying about his "UTRs".

As far as the Threads derailing from off topic posts, read over the Positive Review thread where there are times that up to 80% of the posts are NOT anything about a Positive Review. The posts are many times asks, usually from out of towners and newbies. Not always though.

The GREAT review on her you wrote in the Positive Escort Review Thread will possibly get clouded up from other posts that are polluting the thread from people announcing that they are coming to visit Orlando and demanding that we all bring our best Wenches over to their hotel for them. Also, posts blindly asking if anyone has seen a provider and wants intel. Usually without doing any due diligence first. In reality, your post will possibly stand OUT because it actually WAS a Positive Review! Kudos.

Thanks again for your review. We see it "loud and clear" in the Positive Escort Review Thread. Polluting the UTR Thread isn't necessary.

Please note that no one is bashing you per se. It is just a real struggle for some Members to Grasp the definition of what the Threads represent and more importantly, what IS the definition an UTR Provider. Again. Not pointed at you per se.

Let's move on:

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6091234]Because they don't understand that if she's not posted on STG at the time. You can post all the review you want and we still won't be able to find her.

Bringing her in as a UTR makes her more available to the members.

But some here are having fits over others trying to make pussy easier to find.[/QUOTE]Now, WhineyAshley.

I don't see where anyone is trying to suppress him from giving this provider her due Props. She is 100% an Advertiser though, not an UTR provider. Her ad IS still active as I write this post. I don't know why you think it's not. I think you are just trying so hard to get someone to be on your side for once. Someone that isn't a SW, Gang Banger that allows CIP and is promoted as a UTR in the Forum.

Plus, some may not have picked up on this, but he cross posted / already posted this same review in the appropriate Thread giving her those desired props. The Positive Escort Review Thread. She is an Escort, she Advertises. It was a Positive Visit. He left a Review in that Positive Escort Review Thread. Anyone that needs her number after her ad is gone, can contact him from his post in the correct thread. I would think so anyway. No suppression I can see.

I know some may think that it is one of those things that is encouraged; to Cross-Post that is. It's just not necessary to do that. Plus, the Positive Escort Review Thread makes perfect sense to get the word out in this case.

I don't understand how the confusion sets in from anyone on this.

Pal-O-Mine WhineyAshley, everyone on here wants to find quality girls. The Threads are set up to let each Monger choose the type of Provider they want. If you want to promote an AMP girl, why shouldn't they also be posted about in the UTR Thread? They don't advertise. Why? It's because it's a different category of Provider. Even though she is a Non-Advertising Provider it's an AMP Provider. There is an appropriate thread for that posting. Just as there is an appropriate Thread for Girls that Advertise, Girls that do Gang Bangs and a Thread for Girls that Walk the Streets. Hell, there's even a Thread for girls that allow BBFS. NONE of those are UTR Girls.

If anyone but you disagree with that assessment, I haven't heard from them yet. You seem to be a roaring crowd of ONE. Maybe you SHOULD start your own Thread. You can call that Thread The "WhineyAshley Cavalcade of Overpriced SW, Trap Ho's and Other Bottom Feeders that are Passed Off as WA's patented Quality UTRs" Thread.

I really don't think it's too difficult in trying to put Reviews in the correct Threads. Please see my post concerning these differentiation of preferences men may have I posted below in the Rat Trap earlier today. Misclassifying girls makes the search for the type of girls someone prefers very challenging and causes the Poster to lose ALL credibility. Sound Familiar?

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380**[ViewOriginalPost]]Because they don't understand that if she's not posted on STG at the time. You can post all the review you want and we still won't be able to find her.

Bringing her in as a UTR makes her more available to the members.

But some here are having fits over others trying to make pussy easier to find.[/QUOTE]So in WHINEYASS380's train of thought, if a SW'ER isn't presently on the street, it's ok to post her up in the UTR section. If a trap ho isn't in the trap tonight, it's okay to post her up in the UTR section.

Why does placing a wg in the UTR thread make her easier to find than placing her in the proper thread? Answer, you can ask mongers to contact you for her information. Why? To build up fictional creds as the "go to guy", the guy with the girls. WhineyAss380 once claimed he does this to protect the girls. It's his job he wrote. Then he switched up saying he's trying to help the guys.

He doesn't understand putting a wg in the UTR section doesn't magically turn her into an UTR. He's simply attempting to gain clout and credibility while diluting the UTR thread with his BS. Go to the UTR section and see how WHINEYASS380 has inspired others to imitate his foul ways. He's a virus.

Stay safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.

[QUOTE=NCHunter;6091383]So in WHINEYASS380's train of thought, if a SW'ER isn't presently on the street, it's ok to post her up in the UTR section. If a trap ho isn't in the trap tonight, it's okay to post her up in the UTR section.

Why does placing a wg in the UTR thread make her easier to find than placing her in the proper thread? Answer, you can ask mongers to contact you for her information. Why? To build up fictional creds as the "go to guy", the guy with the girls. WhineyAss380 once claimed he does this to protect the girls. It's his job he wrote. Then he switched up saying he's trying to help the guys.

He doesn't understand putting a wg in the UTR section doesn't magically turn her into an UTR. He's simply attempting to gain clout and credibility while diluting the UTR thread with his BS. Go to the UTR section and see how WHINEYASS380 has inspired others to imitate his foul ways. He's a virus.

Stay safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.[/QUOTE]The thing is that I don't think anyone else doesn't understand the definition of an UTR Provider. How can it be that WhineyAshley is the Only person on the ENTIRE Forum that can't grasp this concept of what defines an UTR Provider and why it's critical to have Integrity AND Credibility to get to be well-respected on the Forum?

Maybe he DOES need to create his own thread so he can make his definition of UTR a reality. I bet that Admin could also change his badge below his Moniker to be listed as "King Gatekeeper-Quasi" instead of "Senior Member". Plus, he can claim to be the inventor of the Provider known as the "Under the Radar" Under the Radar Girl.

It's true NC, WhineyAshley thinks that if a SW only walks occasionally in their own hood or if a different SW has current SW Reviews in the SW Threads but Prefers to be UTR makes them only a "little bit" of a SW.

Based on that belief, I guess if a generic guy enjoys fellating other guys, but only occasionally, that this person is classified as being only a "little bit" gay.

I'm beginning to think WhineyAshley380 is more ignorant that PussyRitchie469.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Ren67;6090531]I agree with Grain 56 on this assessment.[/QUOTE]Follow Agnes Zimmerman the self appointed HOA community block Capt all you want.

But he's a full of shit bitchsplainer. His problems with me started because I wouldn't comply with his rules.

He won't tell you that the very thing he and his Karen have the most problem with, SW numbers, is done exactly how He told me it had to be done.

As far as the revolving UTR SW.

I met her at a traphouse where I only got BJ's and assumed she was a SW, but she only worked the trap and had a client list from her Hood. I never said Small. And! Have been fully up front about her as I am all my relationship with these girls

The gangbang UTR told me she wanted to try one.

That doesn't make her suddenly non UTR. I wasn't able to set one up because I don't know anything about doing that, appreciate.

But anytime who wanted to participate went thru UTR check that every other Gatekeeper should be doing for his UTRs.

Bottom line noone here who has not been given access knows who she is and she's still not advertising anywhere but here.

I don't post a girls full menu because none of us really know what it is. Remember YMMV and one of the perks of playing gatekeeper is that my milage varies greatly. And I am typically friends with these girls, so that gives you at least some assurance that they are not twirlers or rip off bitches. With ice picks.

Finally.

I get numbers because that's how I play in the hobby.

Too many times I have seen a girl I want but can't do the date at that time for some reason and when I do hunt too many times I have to settle or go home. Why wouldn't I give out the number to members? Anyone not on my ignore list is welcome to those numbers all I suggest is that you got the number from Here if you want because with some girls it gits perks.

You need to understand that I am far more familiar with these girls and am fat more into the life than 90% of the members here. For the last six months I have practically devoted my life to one that I have not posted for because she wouldn't be a good date. But thru her I have met dozens of girls.

I also meet some girls in other ways mostly college girls.

One of the UTRs is that girl I was devoted to's sister.

She's trying to get to college. She has become one of my best friends and because of that and my previous relationship with her sister nothing will happen between us.

Also I have been neglecting the three or four UTRs using me for those past six months. That changed last night so expect more UTR reviews

But in short don't fall inline with these clowns, they are trying to hold onto some imagined hierarchy that they imagine them do at the top of.

They're s joke.

Another callout due to your lying.

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6091803]Follow...
As far as the revolving UTR SW.

I met her at a traphouse where I only got BJ's and assumed she was a SW, but she only worked the trap and had a client list from her Hood.

Please Note -> I never said Small. <-

And! Have been fully up front about her as I am all my relationship with these girls...

...joke.[/QUOTE]He says he NEVER said "small". Just below is his original post unadulterated. Please note the word "Small" mentioned with "client list" and "part of their hood".

This is why he keeps getting called out. He is a pathological liar. He decides to change an admitted SW into an UTR provider and changes her "descriptors" to fit into the definition of UTR. No one is buying it.

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6064327]Not sure where to put this one.

She's not exactly UTR and not completely SW.

More of a Hood ***** I think.

They work within a small client list and walk around a small part of their hood.

Anyway.

No gps and very open minded.

As always HMU for her for now number.[/QUOTE]He will still deny he said this about his SW (want to be) UTR girl until the cows come home. He FORGETS that we can see every post he's ever made. He Flip-Flops on his stance more than a bucket full of fish.

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6091803]Follow....His problems with me started because I wouldn't comply with his rules.

He won't tell you that the very thing he and his Karen have the most problem with, SW numbers, is done exactly how He told me it had to be done...

Grain: No one EVER said you can't or shouldn't share numbers. You keep repeating that someone told you not to do that. That's 100% a fallacy that you are grasping on to so you can make yourself appear to be a victim of what you describe as an angry mob. No one EVER said that to you.

Reality is you were called out for REQUIRING Members to contact you exclusively to find a SW. You were not sharing where to find them. You were even negotiating prices for the date. THAT'S when you became known as Pimp-Quasi. Many Mongers do not want to filter through you (or anyone else) for anything. It WAS said that you should give a general location of where they hang out or where you saw them so others can decide to look for them without your intrusion.

Please find one single post where it was ever suggested that you shouldn't collect and/ or share numbers. You find one and then you can prove your stance. In fact, when it was first mentioned, you actually started giving out general locations. THEN you decided to start posting in the UTR Thread promoting known and still active SWs.

The only thing that was ever said was to point out that you were collecting SW digits but not sharing WHERE to find them. You kept that part secret. You WANTED to be the Pimp filter of these SWs.

Then you would report in the SW thread that in order (the only way) to "see" them is that Members would need to "HMU" for the digits where you also said you would screen, vet and then share digits with the monger only if they met your criteria. You said it was "your job" and it was for the SWs ("your girls") safety. All this nonsense to meet a girl that gets into stranger's cars all day long and can vet a person without your intrusive interrogating. Probably much better than you ever could, based on your demonstrated judgement and disastrous results reported from many of the dates with girls you "Represent". You are NOT a very good assessor of people.

Back to WhineyAshley:
...I get numbers because that's how I play in the hobby.

Too many times I have seen a girl I want but can't do the date at that time for some reason and when I do hunt too many times I have to settle or go home. Why wouldn't I give out the number to members? Anyone not on my ignore list is welcome to those numbers all I suggest is that you got the number from Here if you want because with some girls it gits perks.

Grain: Share all you want. Just be sure that you warn the monger friends you share with how you will stand over them like Paul Snider stood over Dorothy Stratton. Your reputation stands on its own. Just like I can see your old posts, so can everyone else. Once they see the Drama Cloud that follows you and "your girls", the wise ones will keep their distance. No one wants a Pimp to go the provider after a date to gather intel on the date and dig to find out more about the monger in general. Another thing that's been proven you do.

WhineyAshley:

...You need to understand that I am far more familiar with these girls and am fat more into the life than 90% of the members here. For the last six months I have practically devoted my life to one that I have not posted for because she wouldn't be a good date....

Grain: You my friend are so obsessed with this need to Manage your Harem that it's taken over your life! You are starting to sound more and more creepy the more you share. Why would anyone devote their life to trying to "save" someone that most likely doesn't give 2 shits about you? That is demonstrating extremely obsessive if not dangerous behavior.

Add to that your obsession with needing to be a Gatekeeper, it all adds up to you making nothing but an embarrassment of yourself. To be respected by the Forum in General, you have to demonstrate integrity and credibility. Both of which falls another notch every time you step back into the batter's box and keep swinging away.

Your desperate desire to stand out as a Top Quality, King Kong of the Hill Pimp is so rampant, that you can't see or think straight.

P.S. I can assure you that are NOT far more familiar with the Providers in Orlando than 90% of the Mongers on the Forum. You only know a tiny, tiny swatch of them. You are only more familiar with the couple handfuls of girls that you have sold your bill of goods to. Don't flatter yourself to me, you decrepit wanna-be.

More WhineyAshley Creepy Comments:
...Also I have been neglecting the three or four UTRs using me for those past six months. That changed last night so expect more UTR reviews..

Grain: Yes, WhineyAshley is nothing but a..

WhineyAshley:

...joke.[/QUOTE]Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Grain56;6090343]the most perfect example of WHY you keep getting called out in the Forum. You can't tell the Truth about any of the Girls you represent. I don't make the rules. I am only trying to help maintain Integrity in the Threads.

First, she is a walker. Then she isn't. First, she has a small client list. Then she is willing to do groups.

Why is the truth important? Because there are men that have certain criteria that that look for in selecting a provider. There are men that do NOT want to date a SW. There are men that do. There are men that don't care because many of the Advertisers have been SWs. There are men that do NOT want to date a Gang Bang Queen. There are men that do. There are men that don't care. There are some that do not want to date a girl that will allow CIP. There are some that do. There are some that don't care..[/QUOTE]I showed undeniable proof you flip-flopped on (lied about) "your girls" true pedigree.

I then made an assessment concerning that truth is important as many men prefer a certain type of provider, non-SW, low-volume, non-advertiser, non-CIP, etc. I said some care, others do not care.

I would say this is 100% based in facts. I said that telling the truth about someone being promoted helps men decide if they want to deal with another Member's offerings.

I also would say that those are true statements. Then, someone agreed with that position. That's the ONLY part they attached to their comment.

[QUOTE=Ren67;6090531]I agree with Grain 56 on this assessment.[/QUOTE]Ren67 states that the assessment I made on these two points make sense. You then get your lace panties in a wad because someone agreed with 2 Factual statements. One Fact Proven by your own words and one that is 100% factual based on general human behaviors and their own preferences for the ideal Provider.

How does that attack help move you forward in your Mission to become Orlando's Greatest Chest Thumping, King Kong Pimping, Devotes his entire Life to Saving every Working Girl (one at a time), Chicago Hip-Hop Producer-Knowing, Bad-Ass Gatekeeper-Quasi?

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6091803]Follow Agnes Zimmerman the self appointed HOA community block Capt all you want.[/QUOTE]Why would you attack or argue with someone that agrees on facts?

Just because someone says they believe something that you actually said in your own words and also agreed with an assessment on men's preferences sounds pretty accurate, doesn't make them a bad person. I guess Ren67 won't be on your approved list any longer. I guess now you have to block / ignore him (like you do to me and NC, WINK) and you will now call him a (WhineyAshley's believed spelling of Douche) Doosh.

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6091803]But he's a full of shit bitchsplainer. His problems with me started because I wouldn't comply with his rules.

He won't tell you that the very thing he and his Karen have the most problem with, SW numbers, is done exactly how He told me it had to be done.
[/QUOTE]I don't see anyone challenging any assessments of you other than you. Again, a crowd of ONE. I'm sure if you weren't so busy saving "your girls" you could put forth a more convincing argument trying to save some small slice of your Integrity and Credibility. Naaaa. Won't work.

Grain 56.

P.S. If I am such a HOA bitchsplainer that you don't ever agree with, WHY in the world you keep claiming / admitting multiple times that you are simply following "my" (actually Grain and NC's) guidance on posting SWs numbers to not make you be a Pimp about it?

By the way, you actually are not following any guidance. You are trying to be a Pimp-Quasi by your methods as it's been said before.

How about this, HMU and I will explain further, in "Pimp-Quasi-splain" language, how it is you keep veering off the path in your attempts to share intel on SWs and how to define what really is an UTR provider. That way, you might have a better chance of grasping it. The part about your incessant lying, you'll have to make that change within yourself. You will have to actually want to have integrity to make it happen.

*Said "small".

*Mentioned tranny's.

*Promoted SW'ers as UTR.

This is the truth in Wayne's World (nice name for his thread). You can see his posts where he wrote these things. He's a pathological liar. He claims others are going to destroy the forum. He breaks all rules, norms and traditions yet accuse others of destroying the forum.

How go you know when WhineyAss is lying? He's posting something.

Stay safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.

[QUOTE=WayneAshley380]HOA approved (should be)...[/QUOTE]Herein lies WhineyAss's problem. Posting for approval. He claims taking numbers is how he does this hobby. We can see his old posts. He forgets this.

He began as a regular guy and then he met RP. He was enthralled with RP's facade of a fiefdom of wg's that he alone provided access to. WhineyAss was captivated. He wanted in. He changed. Don't take my word, read his past posts.

He became RP's "mini-me" adopting his protocols, registries of monger info, being abusive and disrespectful to mongers, debriefing the wg's, embellishing wg's, promoting common SW'ers as UTR'S, negotiating prices, etc. He even threatened a monger when disputes arose between the monger and the wg.

It's the goal of this site (one of them) for men to assist other men in the access of women. No one decries anyone from collecting info and passing it on. But when one starts posting for approval or creds, eventually their integrity will suffer as has WhineyAss's. Everything he writes is suspect.

He earlier wrote, numerous times, his male member was defective. Now magically he has 2 hour sessions. Remember, he's a proven liar who's called "wolf" once too often. Personally, he Will never be credible to me or have any integrity. He posts to impress, gain credibility, respect and clout. Totally the wrong reasons and definitely causes not to trust. You've been warned.

Stay safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.