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[QUOTE=LatinLove187;5293771]It was a ticket.
Did not get arrested.
Court date is in June.
Has anyone experienced this. If so. How did it go.
Is it possible to fight this.[/QUOTE]I understand you're in a tough spot, and I apologize for having to be so demanding for this but I would appreciate any information on this so we can learn about where we shouldn't go or anything else that can help the forum.
[QUOTE=LatinLove187;5293771]It was a ticket.
Did not get arrested.
Court date is in June.
Has anyone experienced this. If so. How did it go.
Is it possible to fight this.[/QUOTE]You were arrested for solicitation of prostitution 647 (b), a misdemeanor yet quite serious, and in lieu of booking / bail you were "cited out" with a promise to appear (citation).
Do NOT appear by yourself. You must retain a lawyer. I will say it again, You Must Retain a Lawyer!
If, for the most part, you are a good fellow, your lawyer will make a deal, and possibly have the charge (solicitation) reduced down to something more pleasant, like disturbing the peace or some other minor infraction.
You will pay a fine and go on summary (informal) probation. You will avoid a record.
The police most likely have everything they need to convict you, but a case like this rarely goes to trial. You really need to apologize and plea for forgiveness and leniency. This is all you can really do.
These cases are rarely fought. Okay, so now tell us how it went down. I'm sure we all want details!
[QUOTE=NineInches;5292518]What's going on Robert32 and LatinLover.[/QUOTE]There was a couple similar posts is Listcrawler, I tried to link the one that I messaged but they took it down. But I assumed it was just two girls that were working together but in separate rooms at a hotel. So I messaged one, discussed rates and I headed to the hotel in San Marcos. Went up to the room, knocked, she let me in told me to make myself comfortable, once I was in, the sheriff came out from where the beds are and handcuffed me. Same situation as LatinLover, I was given a ticket and a court date in June.
[QUOTE=Unrgstrd;5292429]Which girl? The link just takes me to the main 1st page of the site mmmm.[/QUOTE]If you're using Chrome browser, you can go to the cached version of the page by typing "cache:" before the link, like so:
Cache:[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60550785/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Robert32;5294720]There was a couple similar posts is Listcrawler, I tried to link the one that I messaged but they took it down. But I assumed it was just two girls that were working together but in separate rooms at a hotel. So I messaged one, discussed rates and I headed to the hotel in San Marcos. Went up to the room, knocked, she let me in told me to make myself comfortable, once I was in, the sheriff came out from where the beds are and handcuffed me. Same situation as LatinLover, I was given a ticket and a court date in June.[/QUOTE]That totally sucks. Was any of your communication incriminating? Anything they can use to prove you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?
My previous link didn't work. To get to the cached page using Chrome, go to the original comment that I am quoting below, copy the link, then type "cache:" and past the link in the browser. It should look like this:
Cache:[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60550785/[/URL].
For those that don't want to go through the trouble, the ad lists a 760 area code, has 2 pics where neither are nude or showing the woman's face, and she offers incall only. She also has a great butt for a white chick.
[QUOTE=Robert32;5291385]Got busted, stay safe gentleman.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60550785/[/URL][/QUOTE]
The numbers for the two sting ads were 760 XXX 7552 and 760 XXX 5168. If you google them and listcrawler you can see the wording they used in the ad. That being said I saw both ads and texted both numbers. I was ambiguous in my wording and they never texted me back. A working girl would have jumped at my text. Both ads were suspicious. Both were new, both were reasonably priced, both looked good. All you had to do was google the number. Think with your big head first next time.
[QUOTE=FingerLicking;5295210]That totally sucks. Was any of your communication incriminating? Anything they can use to prove you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?[/QUOTE]I'm sorry to hear that this happened to you. I was on the road a few years back and called for an outcall. I normall do better homework but I fell victim of nice pictures and a decent rate. When she showed up, she gave me a super bad vibe that something was wrong. I asked for a massage and she said that she didn't provide that service. When I asked her to stay and watch a movie with me, she left. Based on the vibe she gave, there was no fucking way that I was going to ask her for anything sexual.
Again, hope you're able to plea out, thanks for letting us know and keep us posted!
[QUOTE=FingerLicking;5295210]That totally sucks. Was any of your communication incriminating? Anything they can use to prove you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?[/QUOTE]Discussed services and amount so yeah.
The post that I saw that got me caught up looked very similar to this one:
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682421/[/URL]
Be very safe gents.
Nearly identical ads as those posted in San Marcos the other day. Now in Escondido.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682490/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682421/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682110/[/URL]
Explicit sex acts mentioned in ad, no face photo, price too low for hot girls, no posting history, incall only. Use your big heads out there guys and stay safe.
[QUOTE=DowntownDave;5295340]Nearly identical ads as those posted in San Marcos the other day. Now in Escondido.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682490/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682421/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682110/[/URL]
Explicit sex acts mentioned in ad, no face photo, price too low for hot girls, no posting history, incall only. Use your big heads out there guys and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's pretty much the same as the post that I replied to. Be safe guys.
[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;5293629]I posted a question but the censorship on this website doesn't allow for honest information.
I would be curious to understand what happened including the details like how the meeting, went what happened when you were told that you were being arrested and what they did with you afterwards but the moderators on this side apparently not want us to talk about what happened in a sting operation.[/QUOTE]Years ago, a girl mentioned acts on the phone. It was a red flag that I noticed but the wrong head took over. It turned out to be a sting. Me agreeing on the phone was all they needed. The area code was from out-of-state. I think the safer bet would be to see if a girl has a history of previous ads in other cities.
[QUOTE=DowntownDave;5295340]Nearly identical ads as those posted in San Marcos the other day. Now in Escondido.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682490/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682421/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682110/[/URL]
Explicit sex acts mentioned in ad, no face photo, price too low for hot girls, no posting history, incall only. Use your big heads out there guys and stay safe.[/QUOTE]No previous ads in other cities might be a red flag. Danger, Mr Robinson!
[QUOTE=SDMonger69;5295435]No previous ads in other cities might be a red flag. Danger, Mr Robinson![/QUOTE]Just curious. Why use escort alligator over HX?
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[QUOTE=FingerLicking;5295444]Just curious. Why use escort alligator over HX?[/QUOTE]I have never used but peek at for free!
I stay away from any ads on esaligator in north county. Suggest you do too unless you know the provider personally.
[QUOTE=Woody68;5295610]I stay away from any ads on esaligator in north county. Suggest you do too unless you know the provider personally.[/QUOTE]
Excellent advice about only contacting or scheduling with providers you personally know. And, the other is only with providers that are well reviewed. I hate the alligator site and have never used it. I think every site has potential risks, but at least with HX there's the network, where you can see the histories on those listed on the provider's networks and know they were at least seen by real mongers who we can reach out to for feedback.
Sorry to the 2 fellows that were cited. Thank you for sharing to us about what happened. This is a good reminder of what we need to do to protect ourselves.
[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5295650]Excellent advice about only contacting or scheduling with providers you personally know. And, the other is only with providers that are well reviewed. I hate the alligator site and have never used it. I think every site has potential risks, but at least with HX there's the network, where you can see the histories on those listed on the provider's networks and know they were at least seen by real mongers who we can reach out to for feedback.
Sorry to the 2 fellows that were cited. Thank you for sharing to us about what happened. This is a good reminder of what we need to do to protect ourselves.[/QUOTE]I don't like HX because it's take awhile to be ranked, and it you piss off one provider, game's over, even if that provider is gone, the negative stigma is still there. That's the reason I see some providers have a a red label, this user used to have a different account.
T3 r, reviews are all over the place, sometimes providers change numbers / wigs / sex change (LOL), so multiple reviews are found for the same provider.
PD is shit as well, not too detailed like gentlemen don't say shit.
Anyways enough of my ranting, Maddie Mouse finally got on T3 r and I disagree because she's had reviews on here before. Plus the fool paid how much?
I think "we" are to blame for giving them the GPS.
The reality is the sting operations go on pretty frequently.
Two or three months ago there were several publicized stings in North County area so this is just the latest in a series of operations.
Each time they get dozens of men caught up in the stings so remember that until you get the politicians to decriminalize prostitution and solicitation this kind of waste of taxpayers money is going to go on and on.
I don't think any of the individuals ticketed are going give up on sex So the government isn't really doing anything useful but stopping people from trying to have sex.
Sex is a basic human right that the government should not be controlling but these barbaric laws or an attempt.
[QUOTE=Woody68;5295610]I stay away from any ads on esaligator in north county. Suggest you do too unless you know the provider personally.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/victoria-escort-los-angeles-907546[/URL]
[QUOTE=SDMonger69;5295429]Years ago, a girl mentioned acts on the phone. It was a red flag that I noticed but the wrong head took over. It turned out to be a sting. Me agreeing on the phone was all they needed. The area code was from out-of-state. I think the safer bet would be to see if a girl has a history of previous ads in other cities.[/QUOTE]It just seems like entrapment, which I thought was illegal and get the case dismissed. I've only been 86 d from a hotel as it was after the act and the hotel probably either got complaints from other rooms or saw footage of frequent visitors. I usually enjoy my escapades in countries where it is legal and my dollar gets more bang for its buck.
Okay, these are scary stings. In order to arrest and then convict, the police need to prove two things: One, that some agreement was made for the exchange of money for sex. And two, that the perpetrator made an effort to "move things along," called an "act in furtherance. "
From what you guys say, it sounds like the police are making the agreement by phone or text (which alone is useless) and then luring the perpetrator to a hotel (which becomes the "act in furtherance"). The perpetrator shows up and both conditions are now satisfied. The arrest is made.
This is far more risky for a hobbyist vis-a-vis police having to do the agreement in person! When you agree by phone, text, or whatever other form of communication, you are already half-baked in advance. All you have to do now is show, and you are done! Really screwed up crap. Moral of the story: Do not discuss sex and money with anyone, ever! However, if you must, make 100 percent sure the person is not the police first!
[QUOTE=Edater;5296039]Okay, these are scary stings. In order to arrest and then convict, the police need to prove two things: One, that some agreement was made for the exchange of money for sex. And two, that the perpetrator made an effort to "move things along," called an "act in furtherance. "
From what you guys say, it sounds like the police are making the agreement by phone or text (which alone is useless) and then luring the perpetrator to a hotel (which becomes the "act in furtherance"). The perpetrator shows up and both conditions are now satisfied. The arrest is made.
This is far more risky for a hobbyist vis-a-vis police having to do the agreement in person! When you agree by phone, text, or whatever other form of communication, you are already half-baked in advance. All you have to do now is show, and you are done! Really screwed up crap. Moral of the story: Do not discuss sex and money with anyone, ever! However, if you must, make 100 percent sure the person is not the police first![/QUOTE]Try calling the cops or the hotel management and tell them that prostitution is going. LOL. Have cops go against cops. I've also read that the burden of proof is on the arrested party. So either show proof that the police heavily lured you into the trap and kept asking you to come is illegal entrapment. I'm no lawyer but can anyone confirm or deny this info?
[QUOTE=Pete8911;5295310]I'm sorry to hear that this happened to you. I was on the road a few years back and called for an outcall. I normall do better homework but I fell victim of nice pictures and a decent rate. When she showed up, she gave me a super bad vibe that something was wrong. I asked for a massage and she said that she didn't provide that service. When I asked her to stay and watch a movie with me, she left. Based on the vibe she gave, there was no fucking way that I was going to ask her for anything sexual.
Again, hope you're able to plea out, thanks for letting us know and keep us posted![/QUOTE]Sorry to hear what happened to the guys. I remember once about a year ago, there were 2 girls on alligator and when I called one of them, someone threatened to send all of my info to 5-0. Another big red flag for me is when someone asks, "Well what do you want?" I always respond by saying, "well my back has been very stiff lately, do you think you could help me?" If they push beyond that, I block them.
[QUOTE=DowntownDave;5295340]Nearly identical ads as those posted in San Marcos the other day. Now in Escondido.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682490/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682421/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60682110/[/URL]
Explicit sex acts mentioned in ad, no face photo, price too low for hot girls, no posting history, incall only. Use your big heads out there guys and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Looked at the pictures and then the prices stated. Ladies looking that good don't charge $140.
I was a bit surprised that the vice was only issuing tickets Summer Stephen announced about a year ago that people arrested prostitution related violations had were required to taken to jail. My guess that is that police has changed their policy due to Covid. I have heard in the past that judges were quite hard on prostitutes. This one SW that I knew told me that when she was arrested the judge sentenced her to 2 weeks in jail. The odd thing was that this was the first time she had been arrested for prostitution.
[QUOTE=Robert32;5294720]There was a couple similar posts is Listcrawler, I tried to link the one that I messaged but they took it down. But I assumed it was just two girls that were working together but in separate rooms at a hotel. So I messaged one, discussed rates and I headed to the hotel in San Marcos. Went up to the room, knocked, she let me in told me to make myself comfortable, once I was in, the sheriff came out from where the beds are and handcuffed me. Same situation as LatinLover, I was given a ticket and a court date in June.[/QUOTE]
The best way to handle this is to delay as much as possible. Hire a aggressive lawyer and have him file a bunch of motions. Plead not guilty at the arraignment & demand a trial. There is a good chance the city attorney will drop the case. If they don't then show up on the day of the trial and see if they drop the case. If not change your plea to guilty & have your lawyer negotiate a plea. The thing to remember is that these are misdemeanor cases & city attorney does not want to waste time & resources on minor offense like prostitution.
[QUOTE=Edater;5294053]You were arrested for solicitation of prostitution 647 (b), a misdemeanor yet quite serious, and in lieu of booking / bail you were "cited out" with a promise to appear (citation).
Do NOT appear by yourself. You must retain a lawyer. I will say it again, You Must Retain a Lawyer
If, for the most part, you are a good fellow, your lawyer will make a deal, and possibly have the charge (solicitation) reduced down to something more pleasant, like disturbing the peace or some other minor infraction.
You will pay a fine and go on summary (informal) probation. You will avoid a record.
The police most likely have everything they need to convict you, but a case like this rarely goes to trial. You really need to apologize and plea for forgiveness and leniency. This is all you can really do.
These cases are rarely fought. Okay, so now tell us how it went down. I'm sure we all want details![/QUOTE]
Why go after the men? If you want to stop prostitution shouldn't you go after the ones offering and profiting? Or If your goal is to stop trafficking wouldn't it make sense to contact the ladies who are presumably victims?
Massage Parlor raids I get, but I just don't see the point of sting operations that target the men just looking for pleasure. The demand will always be there so why not target the supply instead.
[blue]Why "target" anybody, Amnesty International has already done the foot work and supplied the answer.
[url]https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/08/sex-workers-rights-are-human-rights[/url]
It is long past time to decriminalize all consensual sex work done by adults in the US.
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Had the same thing happen to me. Wish I seen this first!
[QUOTE=SuchaDilf;5292278]I had an appointment with koko kreams last Saturday.
She had to reschedule because of a problem with her room.
Had it rescheduled for Monday and shit kept coming up.
(She sent the confirmation but then said no check in etc).
Timewaster.[/QUOTE]
Why go after the men? Fairness. Gender plays no role here. The sting sometimes targets "johns" while at other times it targets "prostitutes. " The men are the demand side, and the women the supply. Law enforcement can attack either. The law does not discriminate.
When arrested, the police basically have two options: They can take you to jail, book you, and then either release you on you own recognizance or set bail and lock you up. The other option is release you with a citation, or what is know as a "cite out. " This citation is not your ordinary traffic ticket, however. It is a promise to appear on a Misdemeanor charge. The same appearance you would make had you been booked and bailed out or, if not bailed out, the same appearance you would make within the prescribed 72 hours of being in jail. It is basically the arraignment.
As far as the motions and delay and all, this might not be in your best interest. The problem is not going to linger and go away. It's NOT one of those "the officer won't show" tickets one can easily win by just showing up. It is NOT a traffic citation. It's a fairly serious criminal matter that has the potential to put you in jail and leave you with a serious record. Do not it take lightly. It's almost a 100 percent certain you will be convicted if you go to trial. You want this crap to go away fast!
Don't know why the admin's on this site edit, delete or don't post some my posts nowadays
[blue]Because that is what Moderators do, we moderate your posts becasue you have a history of violating the TOS
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but In this case this is an issue that I have long felt was deeply important and have spoken out before about unnecessary intrusion into the personal lives of citizens. Fundamentally it is a basic violation of my rights as a human being to attend to my personal medical / biological well-being.
This is a health issue that is both physical health and mental health influences on individuals.
Our society is far worse off when it attempts prohibition of "Sin", Whether it was alcohol or recently marijuana Laws that restrict individuals personal choices I've only proven to be expensive unnecessary waste of time and resources but also cause more harm to individuals and benefit to society.
And of course criminalizing the financial transactions for the worlds "oldest profession" is constantly wasting law enforcement resources and therefore taxpayers money. Criminalizing the The actions of an individual that is seeking the most basic human interaction between two individuals Is insanity if you really think about all the implications involved in this policy.
It is absolutely no interest of the government what two consenting adults do behind closed doors.
Criminalizing sex is just wrong.
[QUOTE=Lrio45;5298563]Why go after the men? If you want to stop prostitution shouldn't you go after the ones offering and profiting? Or If your goal is to stop trafficking wouldn't it make sense to contact the ladies who are presumably victims?
Massage Parlor raids I get, but I just don't see the point of sting operations that target the men just looking for pleasure. The demand will always be there so why not target the supply instead.
[blue]Why "target" anybody, Amnesty International has already done the foot work and supplied the answer.
[url]https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/08/sex-workers-rights-are-human-rights[/url]
It is long past time to decriminalize all consensual sex work done by adults in the US.
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The only advice I'd be taking is to find an experienced lawyer and let them deal with. I'd take their advice, not random comments from the net. A good lawyer can get you out of anything. Robert Kraft was caught on camera.
[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;5299525]Don't know why the admin's on this site edit, delete or don't post some my posts nowadays
[blue]Because that is what Moderators do, we moderate your posts becasue you have a history of violating the TOS
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but In this case this is an issue that I have long felt was deeply important and have spoken out before about unnecessary intrusion into the personal lives of citizens. Fundamentally it is a basic violation of my rights as a human being to attend to my personal medical / biological well-being.
This is a health issue that is both physical health and mental health influences on individuals.
Our society is far worse off when it attempts prohibition of "Sin", Whether it was alcohol or recently marijuana Laws that restrict individuals personal choices I've only proven to be expensive unnecessary waste of time and resources but also cause more harm to individuals and benefit to society.
And of course criminalizing the financial transactions for the worlds "oldest profession" is constantly wasting law enforcement resources and therefore taxpayers money. Criminalizing the The actions of an individual that is seeking the most basic human interaction between two individuals Is insanity if you really think about all the implications involved in this policy.
It is absolutely no interest of the government what two consenting adults do behind closed doors.
Criminalizing sex is just wrong.[/QUOTE]Exactly why you don't want to let them create a digital dollar where they can track your transactions. AI and ML is going to make it so much easier to monitor and control activities where they will allow you to spend your money. It kind of reminds me of people that receive food stamps EBT and trade their benefits for cash so they can spend it on their personal choice goods and services. Imagine us having to pay for services using a barter system.
Has anyone seen this provider? Any info would be appreciated.
[URL]https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60869891/[/URL]
I am new to San Diego looking for fun.
I've reached out to her a handful of times, but she always stops responding when I try to set things up. Maybe try calling her, I've only done text myself.
[QUOTE=SdLiving1;5301449]Has anyone seen this provider? Any info would be appreciated.
[URL]https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60869891/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigTom250;5302779]I am new to San Diego looking for fun.[/QUOTE][URL]https://tryst.link/escort/spencer-thomas[/URL]
[QUOTE=BigTom250;5302779]I am new to San Diego looking for fun.[/QUOTE]Try Desire in Carlsbad. Nasty lady.
[URL]https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/60887039/[/URL]
Saw her again the other day, very consistent provider. Light massage, smothered me with those big tits, watched her put on a squirt show while CBJ, then rode me and her clit vibrator until she had a wonderful big O. Hit her from behind for a bit before pulling off the jacket and cumblasting those big jugs while a hard tit fucking was taking place.
Warm towel cleanup and a bottle of water for the road. She's a good one, will repeat again.