[QUOTE=HandfulOfWheel;1082046]Hey Tony, I thought you retired![/QUOTE]The word NEVER came out of my mouth.
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[QUOTE=HandfulOfWheel;1082046]Hey Tony, I thought you retired![/QUOTE]The word NEVER came out of my mouth.
[QUOTE=Bikerguy69; 1082075]I'll do my best and I'm REALLY looking forward to meeting her!
I certainly will. I'm sure there's a good enough group of us that can hopefully change some of that. [/QUOTE]Do you have a repost on Brit?
[QUOTE=Tonylove465;1082472]Do you have a repost on Brit?[/QUOTE]Drama with a known drama queen locally. That may be messing up his hooking up with Britt. I'll be seeing and reporting back on her personally tomorrow. Some funds just opened up to allow it for me. Can't FREAKIN' wait, man!
Will let you know how it goes.
TA2
[QUOTE=Bikerguy69;1081184]I have seen Cate before and she is an amazing woman; however, she has routinely canceled appointments for the past 2 weeks. ***SNIP*** [/QUOTE]BG, I'm a regular lurker here, don't post anything at all (as was pointed out to me by one of our finer female members just today, but rather have been content to read and soak it in. I happened to see this over on the Ft. Wayne Boards:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4033-Escort-Reports&p=1082446&viewfull=1#post1082446.
Now, I'm only passing on the information, I have no first-hand knowledge of things. But it looks suspicious. Stay careful out there fellas.
[QUOTE=PigInZen; 1082722]BG, I'm a regular lurker here, don't post anything at all (as was pointed out to me by one of our finer female members just today, but rather have been content to read and soak it in. I happened to see this over on the Ft. Wayne Boards:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4033-Escort-Reports&p=1082446&viewfull=1#post1082446.
Now, I'm only passing on the information, I have no first-hand knowledge of things. But it looks suspicious. Stay careful out there fellas. [/QUOTE]Thanks! Several members have told me about this and I wish I would have known before hand. Indy still has plenty of good ladies around. Thankfully I have met with many of them and they know I'm not a liar. Many of them have also contacted me with additional information and said to beware of her instability.
She has taken her antics to another level, but I'm waiting to see how far she goes before I say anything else.
[QUOTE=PigInZen; 1082722]BG, I'm a regular lurker here, don't post anything at all (as was pointed out to me by one of our finer female members just today, but rather have been content to read and soak it in. I happened to see this over on the Ft. Wayne Boards:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4033-Escort-Reports&p=1082446&viewfull=1#post1082446.
Now, I'm only passing on the information, I have no first-hand knowledge of things. But it looks suspicious. Stay careful out there fellas. [/QUOTE]Can't speak to any of that myself. There's a lot of info going back and forth there, so I thought I'd point out the specific post that's concerning.
TA2
[QUOTE=Tryinagain2; 1082594]I'll be seeing and reporting back on her personally tomorrow. Some funds just opened up to allow it for me. Can't FREAKIN' wait, man!
Will let you know how it goes.
TA2[/QUOTE]Not as GFE as I'd like and I still have a few more favs, but she's as good as her pictures, and rocks. Sounds like she's pretty busy. That's good, though, as she was talking about "next time" this and that, so it sounds like she'll be back.
Folks I have been swamped by fellow mongers requesting info on Kimmy from the south side. I have just been given the green light to add a few more customers to her list. I have sent info to some of you and please have fun but don't ruin it for the rest of us. Those that have seen her know her skills and beauty. Unfortunatley one monger has already started stalking her and she is very timid. I have attached 2 pics.
[QUOTE=Numbnutts;1083102]Folks I have been swamped by fellow mongers requesting info on Kimmy from the south side. I have just been given the green light to add a few more customers to her list. I have sent info to some of you and please have fun but don't ruin it for the rest of us. Those that have seen her know her skills and beauty. Unfortunatley one monger has already started stalking her and she is very timid. I have attached 2 pics.[/QUOTE]Hey NN, very nice find. You should be proud of yourself but one question. As cute as she is why didn't you keep her all to yourself? If she had freckles, I wouldn't have said anything.
Also wonder if the stalker is the same one stalking a few well known other providers? Some mongers need to get out of the hobby and seek some professional help.
FF.
PS. Found out the red head Sparkles is a little high priced for BP at $$.5 per hour. Anyone TOFTT yet?
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1083174]Hey NN, very nice find. You should be proud of yourself but one question. As cute as she is why didn't you keep her all to yourself? If she had freckles, I wouldn't have said anything.
Also wonder if the stalker is the same one stalking a few well known other providers? Some mongers need to get out of the hobby and seek some professional help.
FF.
PS. Found out the red head Sparkles is a little high priced for BP at $$.5 per hour. Anyone TOFTT yet? [/QUOTE]I was going to keep her and not share but the poor thing is in between jobs and is in need (aren't we all. Like I said before she is college educated and was working in a career totally outside the "entertainment" field. A lot of escorts were dancers, massage therapists, etc. Not this one. She reminds me alot of Misty, same skills, class and awesome personality.
[QUOTE=Bikerguy69; 1082841]Thanks! Several members have told me about this and I wish I would have known before hand. Indy still has plenty of good ladies around. Thankfully I have met with many of them and they know I'm not a liar. Many of them have also contacted me with additional information and said to beware of her instability.
She has taken her antics to another level, but I'm waiting to see how far she goes before I say anything else. [/QUOTE]BG, you're welcome, as is everyone else. I figured since the topic came up and I later saw this thread that it might be helpful. Anyway, this can be a rough hobby at times. Encouraging sanity is in all of our interests.
I don't have much to contribute, it's tough to find a provider who will take someone without refs. Them's the breaks. I'll survive.
A lot of talk about local vs. Visiting providers, and some validity to some of what has been said, but certainly can't agree with a lot of it. I would like to add that Catelyne is a personal favorite and I see her often and don't seem to have any scheduling problems with her, she has always gone out of her way to make my time frames work with her.
But that isn't my main point and this is about another favorite. After having gotten stiffed, or having not gotten unstiffed I should say by a local provider, and in so much as that I was leaving town for a number of days and hated going in such a hard predicament, I turned to what in fishing terms would be called my "honey hole". God, that is so appropriate in just so many ways I love it. As most of you know, Misty now usually has Wednesday incalls so I hit her up, it being Wednesday, and fortunately she wasn't booked when I had a free moment so off I went to see her, and as always, all my problems were taken care of. It is often good and exciting to go out and find something / someone new, but sometimes it is really good to know there is someone you can call that you know will provide you with what you want the way you want it. Different strokes for different folks, but I know what I like and I like knowing I am going to get it. And there is a pretty long list of girls that live here in town that fit that bill as well I might add. Let's see, tomorrow is Wednesday, mmmmm what should I do? Of course all of this talk about my favorites suddenly makes me think it might be a great day to be the ilapp meat in a blonde sandwich. I guess I had better start PMing right now.
Thank you ilapp for the shout out. You have proven to be a true friend. That new girl kimmy is pretty sexy. I think I would like to eat her up. I might be looking for a girl to do some duos with in the future!
[QUOTE=Ilapp; 1083241]A lot of talk about local vs. Visiting providers, and some validity to some of what has been said, but certainly can't agree with a lot of it. I would like to add that Catelyne is a personal favorite and I see her often and don't seem to have any scheduling problems with her, she has always gone out of her way to make my time frames work with her.
But that isn't my main point and this is about another favorite. After having gotten stiffed, or having not gotten unstiffed I should say by a local provider, and in so much as that I was leaving town for a number of days and hated going in such a hard predicament, I turned to what in fishing terms would be called my "honey hole". God, that is so appropriate in just so many ways I love it. As most of you know, Misty now usually has Wednesday incalls so I hit her up, it being Wednesday, and fortunately she wasn't booked when I had a free moment so off I went to see her, and as always, all my problems were taken care of. It is often good and exciting to go out and find something / someone new, but sometimes it is really good to know there is someone you can call that you know will provide you with what you want the way you want it. Different strokes for different folks, but I know what I like and I like knowing I am going to get it. And there is a pretty long list of girls that live here in town that fit that bill as well I might add. Let's see, tomorrow is Wednesday, mmmmm what should I do? Of course all of this talk about my favorites suddenly makes me think it might be a great day to be the ilapp meat in a blonde sandwich. I guess I had better start PMing right now. [/QUOTE]Well my friend, once again you have spoken so eloquently and I hope some members of this board take heed to your words.
I have notice most of the slamming of local providers is coming from newer board members. Now this does not mean they are new to the hobby. I am one that truly understands finding someone that fills a special need in my heart and loins. Most of the time this relates to a lady covered in angle kisses. So I can understand the posts about not getting what you want from some of the local providers. However so, it's no reason to slam them on open board, because we all have our personal preferences. Take your comments behind the scenes.
As far as Catelyne goes, she is a busy woman, because she is one of the more desired providers in town. She travels often and is just wonderful company in and out of the bedroom. She does not like hobbyists that can't make up their minds on if they have the contribution or when they keep changing appt times. The unsubstantiated stories you hear about her supposed troubles in FW have no impact on any of our safety or discretion issues.
Misty, thank you for being you. God if I was only 10 years younger and you had 2 more freckles. Oh S*t the thought is getting me very aroused. Don't change you are special in so many ways. If you don't get treated right by any of these mongers, let me know and my Italian side will take care of them.
FF.
PS. It's time for a freckle sandwich. Now who should I choose?
[QUOTE=Missmisty;1083245]Thank you ilapp for the shout out. You have proven to be a true friend. That new girl kimmy is pretty sexy. I think I would like to eat her up. I might be looking for a girl to do some duos with in the future![/QUOTE]That I would love to a see. Two hot women in a sweaty mess. That would top my experience with two sisters (22/26) in downtown Indy last year. Even checked I'd's. Expensive but well worth it. I just love Indy!
Well, I'm obviously one of the "new" guys guilty of "slamming" on this board. I guess my view of what makes this board work for us is very different from others'. It seems that any review that doesn't reflect one's total and complete adulation for a provider is seen as unnecessary. I can't agree with that, as I see the board as not only a place to find those must-see providers, but to avoid those problematic as well.
I honestly have no idea how anyone could defend the likes of Cate. Maybe the whole story hasn't come out yet, but I've seen the psychosis that exists in that woman first hand and on here, and the PM's from someone else have indicated some very disturbing behavior that is indefensible. In this recent case, she was so pissed about having even the slightest negative comment about her scheduling snafus, that she went as far as responding to the review on e. Com USING THE GUY'S REAL FIRST AND LAST NAME. He had to complain to e. Com to get it removed. Then she did it again, and he again had to get it removed. I actually saw the review in question with her response including his name. It's gone now by e. Com's removal, but the behavior here is unbelievable. Even giving her the bennefit of the doubt, would one really trust her after her willingness to post the real name of someone trying to see her on an e. Com review? I've had others pm me in the past about her willingness to give BBFS, which puts everyone at risk. I've seen a provider recommended glowingly on here who was in frequent legal trouble and subject to surprise LE visits and inspections. It was an INCALL appt, and put me at risk. Yet that was never reported by her "fans. " Who in the hell would not want to know these kinds of things beforehand?
I've been less than fully honest here about girls recently because of this kind of crap too, feeling the need to simply stay quiet about someone giving disappointing service. Even one threatened "don't post a review". And if one does post something less than glowing about a fav, the old faithful run to defend and dispute the accuracy. I understand YMMV, and every provider is capable of having a bad day, lack of chemistry, personal problems getting in the way, etc. But why is that info not worthwhile? I'm not interested in a one-sided view. I want balance. The good and the bad, so I can make an informed decision about whether it's worth my time and money to see someone or more importantly, whether it's even SAFE to see someone. That being discouraged helps no one. Well, except for the providers some may want to avoid. It's a great environment in which they can thrive with no fear of being called out for lousy service or disturbing or even unsafe behavior.
So, I see no reason to continue here for me. The reviews are unreliable when anything negative is discouraged, and good info is compromised. I see no value in that.
TA2
I'm not a new member, but I am new to escorts. It's hard to get accurate intelligence about providers when you're still unknown to the senior members, and every girl is an atf.
I would love to see more real life feedback, but I also get the reluctance from folks. No one needs their personal info splashed around because a provider gets pissed about the truth.
I think there are probably a couple scenarios at play, one being that their experience was different and they feel the need to defend. I don't get the need to try and cover it up though. Just like Ebay, one bad review won't ruin someone. If there are multiple bad reviews, there is probably something to take note of.
[QUOTE=Tryinagain2; 1083361]Well, I'm obviously one of the "new" guys guilty of "slamming" on this board. I guess my view of what makes this board work for us is very different from others'. It seems that any review that doesn't reflect one's total and complete adulation for a provider is seen as unnecessary. I can't agree with that, as I see the board as not only a place to find those must-see providers, but to avoid those problematic as well.
I honestly have no idea how anyone could defend the likes of Cate. Maybe the whole story hasn't come out yet, but I've seen the psychosis that exists in that woman first hand and on here, and the PM's from someone else have indicated some very disturbing behavior that is indefensible. In this recent case, she was so pissed about having even the slightest negative comment about her scheduling snafus, that she went as far as responding to the review on e. Com USING THE GUY'S REAL FIRST AND LAST NAME. He had to complain to e. Com to get it removed. Then she did it again, and he again had to get it removed. I actually saw the review in question with her response including his name. It's gone now by e. Com's removal, but the behavior here is unbelievable. Even giving her the bennefit of the doubt, would one really trust her after her willingness to post the real name of someone trying to see her on an e. Com review? I've had others pm me in the past about her willingness to give BBFS, which puts everyone at risk. I've seen a provider recommended glowingly on here who was in frequent legal trouble and subject to surprise LE visits and inspections. It was an INCALL appt, and put me at risk. Yet that was never reported by her "fans. " Who in the hell would not want to know these kinds of things beforehand?
I've been less than fully honest here about girls recently because of this kind of crap too, feeling the need to simply stay quiet about someone giving disappointing service. Even one threatened "don't post a review". And if one does post something less than glowing about a fav, the old faithful run to defend and dispute the accuracy. I understand YMMV, and every provider is capable of having a bad day, lack of chemistry, personal problems getting in the way, etc. But why is that info not worthwhile? I'm not interested in a one-sided view. I want balance. The good and the bad, so I can make an informed decision about whether it's worth my time and money to see someone or more importantly, whether it's even SAFE to see someone. That being discouraged helps no one. Well, except for the providers some may want to avoid. It's a great environment in which they can thrive with no fear of being called out for lousy service or disturbing or even unsafe behavior.
So, I see no reason to continue here for me. The reviews are unreliable when anything negative is discouraged, and good info is compromised. I see no value in that.
TA2[/QUOTE]I agree whole heartily with what you have said in this post, and agree that this forum is for everyone to post their experience, be it good or bad. This forum "I thought" was for the communication of experience a hobbist has with providers. Not the defense of a certain one or two. I also agree that someone should be able to post something positive, if they feel they should. There really isn't very many rules for these boards.
I really thought these boards were for the hobbist to communicate the experience, not pass it on in back channels. I for one would like to know if someone is working the other side, or if they are minimal for big $. I am a tight wad and want my monies worth, and I really hate to TOFTT so to speak. I do that often enough. If we can't freely pass our information here, then we are back to before the internet when we drove down the road and looked, hoping it wasn't LE or cash & dash, or worse, or we had to go to a service, and pay the up front fees, and any extras that might "pop" up.
Now, one post is what I saw that came close to slamming, so I really don't know about all the drama of not continuing. I agree the board could be better, but if it were perfect, it would be no fun.
I'm Just Sayin.
Galere
Everyone was wondering about her. Well I saw her today and she is awesome. She is the real deal. Tall with legs that go forever. She has a great rack. And the best thing is she loves BBBJCIM. Loves it so much she literally made me stay late to give me a second one. For all of you who were unsure and passed her up this time she acts like she will be back soon so you might get another chance. All I can say is don't pass her up next time.
[QUOTE=Ilapp;1083241]A lot of talk about local vs. Visiting providers, and some validity to some of what has been said, but certainly can't agree with a lot of it. I would like to add that Catelyne is a personal favorite and I see her often and don't seem to have any scheduling problems with her, she has always gone out of her way to make my time frames work with her.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you had a different experience with her. My first visit was fantastic, but again, trying to schedule a second visit numerous times with several cancellations was unprofessional and disrespectful to the thing I find most valuable, time.
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak;1083320]I have notice most of the slamming of local providers is coming from newer board members. Now this does not mean they are new to the hobby. I am one that truly understands finding someone that fills a special need in my heart and loins. Most of the time this relates to a lady covered in angle kisses. So I can understand the posts about not getting what you want from some of the local providers. However so, it's no reason to slam them on open board, because we all have our personal preferences. Take your comments behind the scenes.[/QUOTE]That is somewhat true. Not getting what you want from a personal preference side is just that, personal. The beauty of an open message forum is that information can be shared for the benefit of many. If that information can be used to help others not endure the same negative experience, why should that remain private? The other ingredient is trust from the information's source. In the case of this board, that is accomplished by post count and / or provider references. It's also possible for senior members to "vouch" for someone with a low post count as not everyone feels the need to actively participate (there are LOTS of "lurkers".
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak;1083320]As far as Catelyne goes, she is a busy woman, because she is one of the more desired providers in town. She travels often and is just wonderful company in and out of the bedroom. She does not like hobbyists that can't make up their minds on if they have the contribution or when they keep changing appt times.[/QUOTE]And hobbyists don't like it when she does the same.
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak;1083320]The unsubstantiated stories you hear about her supposed troubles in FW have no impact on any of our safety or discretion issues.[/QUOTE]Actually, they do have an impact. Unsubstantiated or not, they are cause for concern and allow the rest of us to perform our due diligence to make an informed decision. If even the rumor is out there and you have not seen that provider, would it be enough for you to pass? Maybe, maybe not. The important part is you had access to the information and were prepared to make wiser decisions.
The bottom line is I had a bad experience and decided to share it. I thought I did a good job of not slamming her personally and stated my reason for being upset was her lack of time management. From there, she went off the deep end and decided to get even by falsifying information and reviews on another site. Those reviews had to be altered by the admin as she also decided to post my PERSONAL INFORMATION in public view. Ask yourself how trustworthy THAT is. How would YOU react when YOUR PII was on public display?
If any senior members do not believe me, I have the emails to prove everything I have said. E. Com has "warned" her twice about it, but I think she needs to be banned. Taking things to that level is inexcusable. I could very easily do the same to her, but I will not cross those lines. I have not contacted her since an email exchange on Sunday and I do not intend to. If she takes it any further, I will handle it the legal way and do everything within my rights this great country provides to protect myself. Please don't ASSUME anything by that statement.
Use your brain to decide who is the "unstable liar" here.
I'm done talking about it in public, but if anyone wants to know more, PM me.
[QUOTE=Fudge1;442694]She still advertises on escorts dot com[/QUOTE]I would steer clear of E. Com for the time being. Seems as though their parent company got raided. Like I said I don't know what that means for hobbyist's but we'll see. See link below.
http://www.mikesouth.com/legal/hotmovies-raid-prostitution-related-4306/
[QUOTE=Smokey Gringo; 1083831]I would steer clear of E. Com for the time being. Seems as though their parent company got raided. Like I said I don't know what that means for hobbyist's but we'll see. See link below.
http://www.mikesouth.com/legal/hotmovies-raid-prostitution-related-4306/[/QUOTE]Well, this explains why I couldn't pull up e. Com yesterday. Still doesn't tell us what it'll mean in the future.
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20101028_Porn-center_offices_raided_in_Center_City.html
Anyone have intel on any cute hispanic providers in the area?
[QUOTE=Smokey Gringo; 1083831]I would steer clear of E. Com for the time being. Seems as though their parent company got raided. Like I said I don't know what that means for hobbyist's but we'll see. See link below.
http://www.mikesouth.com/legal/hotmovies-raid-prostitution-related-4306/[/QUOTE]Man, that just isn't fair. I just moved up to the big leagues with VIP access at e. Com and now this happens? I've started to steer clear of Backpage b / see of ripoff reports and AMPs have their own problems. No where really safe to got to, it seems.
[QUOTE=Tryinagain2; 1083361]Well, I'm obviously one of the "new" guys guilty of "slamming" on this board. I guess my view of what makes this board work for us is very different from others'.
I honestly have no idea how anyone could defend the likes of Cate. I've had others pm me in the past about her willingness to give BBFS, which puts everyone at risk.
I've been less than fully honest here about girls recently because of this kind of crap too, feeling the need to simply stay quiet about someone giving disappointing service.
So, I see no reason to continue here for me. The reviews are unreliable when anything negative is discouraged, and good info is compromised. I see no value in that.
TA2[/QUOTE]Sorry I hit a nerve. God you must be really self-conscious to think my post was directed towards you. What I stated was:
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak;1083320]I have noticed most of the slamming of local providers is coming from newer board members.[/QUOTE]I said and meant MOST, not all, sorry I should have capitalized it so you wouldn't read it as "A New Guy". As far as some of your other comments:
Regarding "BBFS": Maybe you should check some past posts on your wonderful "T". I think there is some reference there and some biblical knowledge. Oh and guys on this board never stretch the truth right? Sorry we are not all as honest as you. Besides as long as you stay covered, your not likely to catch anything that most of the providers boyfriends or girlfriends will give them with their daily uncovered sex. Oh wait, everyone of them has sex fully covered like you and your wife do, right?
Regarding "Dissapointing Service": No, we want you to speak up. My whole point was not to slam on open board time after time. That is what PM's are for. This guards the YMMV factor in each of us. Also guess what. There are some providers I really didn't like, and gave a short won't repeat report. Seems like this generated enough PM's asking why and I was happy to answer.
Regarding "I see no reason to continue": Best comment out of the entire post.
One thing I have to ask before you leave. Your Britt, the traveling provider, the one you raved about in so many posts. I see you read her reviews. Did you ask others about her GFE services, did you research at all? I ask because of your recent post on her as seen below.
[QUOTE=Tryinagain2;1083074]Not as GFE as I'd like and I still have a few more favs,[/QUOTE]How could you have been so wrong by not making certain she was "As GFE", as you would have liked! Is this a good review or bad? Are you really being truthful? NO embelishment at all, right? By the way, what is your definition of GFE, bet it's different than mine.
FF.
PS. See it's all YMMV and mine are freckles. The more the freckles the more the mileage.
I liked both posts. Well thought out and good points. I appreciate your comments and will take them in stride. Hey Ilapp, does this mean I still need to sugercoat things more?
FF.
PS. Numbnutts. You scoundrel you, you didn't tell me she has soooooo many freckles. You're off my Christmas list.
Seems to me, looking at the last month plus or so of reports we have been a bit too crass on a number of levels. Lets face it after all, were not operating in a vacuum on this forum. We are in decidedly mixed company no matter how hard some of you think to ignore those facts.
I agree with recent requests for more accuracy in reviews as I myself felt led astray by a recent recommendation on a certain Russian lady on BP's who was most certainly not the girl in the picture. That wish for accuracy does not mean I want to see salacious details however. That kind of talk just isn't appropriate from gentlemen in the company of ladies. And their creepy overcompensating invariably mustachioed uncles. Seems to me that we all have the right to remain silent. Just that a great many lack the ability.
If a lady pleases you and indicates she would like some press, just indicate on here that you were pleased and doubt anyone else would be disappointed with her company. If you had a very unpleasant experience or think that a woman's advertising is contrary to the reality of her services offered, you can indicate that as well, in a polite, non-specific way.
Why provide specific inflammatory language that you know is going to result in forum drama and may, at some point, help land someone a brief but brutal stay at civics camp?
No. Always, simple decorum is preferred.
Due to the fact that someone in our governments three letter agency that starts with a I. Has decided that I and I alone am going to have to pay for the entire health care package for the population of our fair country and also felt it just for me to also seem to be billed for the bank bailouts in whole. My budgetary dept has deemed it necessary to make some cuts in spending. Something our fair govt. Can't seem to do. Seeing how I've been holding a convert to the unseen eyes I find it unfair shelve in mothballs till further review of the economic situation. Seniors pm for ability to help on her stop gap funding
The Lo-ilappalooza Tour.
Ok not really, I will get to the best thing in a bit if my AARPDD doesn't get me too distracted, but when I was talking with a big member here the other night and he suggested that he and I do that if we both take a potential hiatus from all of this, for differing reasons and possibly different lengths of time, and he honestly had me rolling on the floor laughing. Maybe we will need a different name, there is a way to rhythmically link our handles for the festival, But the point here is that in discussing our current prospects and projects, he pointed out that the biggest thing he would miss is the hunt, the excitement of finding the next wonderful provider. (a quick aside here, I am completely enthralled by the hot new flavor of the day here, and although due to prior commitments it looks like I might be the very last guy to get to be with her, I am assured by 3 people I know well that she is absolutely the real deal and is going to be a big favorite of everyone as long as she continues in the hobby, I think we are going to be hearing a lot about her now and in the future) I digress, but it is the excitement of all that is what would be missed most is an excellent point. Let's face it, most of us can get all the sex we want and or need with out the hobby, it is often the excitement and newness that gets us, and with that is going to come disappointments. Part of the best thing I heard deals with how we handle that, and how we deal with each other.
We all have different ideas of what we want and expect, and let's face it, it can be very hard to be objective when our dicks are involved. A couple of weeks back I was with a provider I am fond of, this was probably the 5th or 6th time I had been with her, and in the middle, well actually the coupling had just occurred so more towards the beginning, she gets an important and expected call from her father-no, no, no-she is way way past the age of consent you sick bastards, but she wanted to continue so she put him on speakerphone while I continued to quietly try not to shrivel and run, but the mission was completed, I got off. So how do you review a session like that? Why would you even try? I have had great sex with horrible providers and bad sex with great providers; maybe it was me, maybe it was them, maybe the synergy between us or maybe it was just life events effecting a specific occurrence in ways that couldn't be predicted or prepared for, but things are just not always the way we want. There are times efficiency and a good business sense is important to the event, times when certain services are important, sometimes when atmosphere and location is a big deal (speaking of that, for those of you that know what I am talking about, I had grown very fond of a certain futon the last couple of years, but even that can be forgotten with a high class incall location like this week, location can be an enhancement and worth the added cost) ; and sometimes just none of that shit matters and you have a great time anyway. The bottom line is, you win some and you lose some; you should enjoy and savor your wins and accept your losses, lick your wounds and move on. Each should share as much or as little as they are comfortable with, but barring truly dangerous situations, rip-offs and scams, there is no reason to get vile or vindictive, here or even personally with providers. It is choices that we make and have to live with. An aside here, I saw that TA2 was upset that he saw someone who apparently was well reviewed but due to certain personal issues legally and that he was put at risk by no one mentioning it. I had to laugh because when he said that a name popped into my mind, and then another and another and on and on. It occurred to me that if I eliminated all of the providers who had probation, bracelets, monitoring, and lord knows what else when I saw them my list would be very very much shorter. I am certain that that sort of personal info about them should not be discussed in open forum, but such info is often traded in private, assuming that it doesn't effect the date and there is definite proof it puts someone at risk. I have never heard of any hobbiest getting in trouble by "dating" a provider who had unrelated legal issues, but then that brings up the veracity of reviews doesn't it. For a number of reasons that is a post I am going to make soon.
For the best thing I have heard: I used to frequent Cincy for work, and I have found every member over there that I ever contacted, even some I never would have guessed, to be extremely helpful with info and insight for that area. I have found them to be good guys, but like all boards and forums, they have their flame ups like we do and seem to be headed for, and they have been in the middle of a big pissing match over there. A guy I have talked to over there wrote a post that has caused me to stop and reflect what and how I do things here. It has really opened my eyes and made me rethink a lot of things. Maybe there is a kinder and gentler Ilapp in the future. I was going to paste the entire post, and I may still, but not today. It was written by Jry Wild1, a decent guy and good fellow to chat with. It is in the Cincy forum, Escort reviews, post #2333 and I recommend it to everyone to read. If going there to do it is too much trouble, I told him I would just paste it and take credit for writing it, nah- you guys would know it wasn't me- but then I will repost it on our thread. It is thoughtful, and true, and appropriate to a point I feel we are getting to. Take a look, might be good for all of us, I know it is for me.
I appreciate the comment.
Gee whiz fellas, can't we all just get along?
Oh! And Numbntts? You Suck!
LMAO.
Galere.
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1084159]I liked both posts. Well thought out and good points. I appreciate your comments and will take them in stride. Hey Ilapp, does this mean I still need to sugercoat things more?
FF.
PS. Numbnutts. You scoundrel you, you didn't tell me she has soooooo many freckles. You're off my Christmas list. [/QUOTE]
I just wanted to thank Ilapp for pointing out such an insightful post in the Cincinnati forum. I owe you a beer. When I started this hobby I had a cash and dash and in researching the issue I found this site. I've been lucky since then, with research and caution I have met some very nice young ladies.
I admit I have lurked around the site instead of posting anything useful. Most of the time anything I would say has been said by others and with a lot more Polish than I could manage. In my time on this site I have seen a number of flame wars erupt. From time to time this happens in every forum on the internet. The majority of the posts I read are in fact not hurtful but contain useful information for keeping this hobby safe. I wanted to thank all the members who post more than me or who post with more content for working to make this a safer hobby for us all.
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1084159]I liked both posts. Well thought out and good points. I appreciate your comments and will take them in stride. Hey Ilapp, does this mean I still need to sugercoat things more?
FF.
PS. Numbnutts. You scoundrel you, you didn't tell me she has soooooo many freckles. You're off my Christmas list. [/QUOTE]My friends I am not cut out for this stuff; I lave lost emails, forgot who I sent info to, deleted emails that I should have kept and my inbox is just a crazy place. Feel comfortable that I have passed the info to enough folks that can share with other members. Just don't ruin a good thing.
[QUOTE=Numbnutts;1084582]My friends I am not cut out for this stuff; I lave lost emails, forgot who I sent info to, deleted emails that I should have kept and my inbox is just a crazy place. Feel comfortable that I have passed the info to enough folks that can share with other members. Just don't ruin a good thing.[/QUOTE]That was last year, this year it was going to be your favorite bottle of 40 yr old scotch. Guess it's a 20 oz can of PBR now.
FF.
PS. Sparkles is on e. Com now. See if you can find the freckles in her pics when they are posted on her profile.
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1084592]That was last year, this year it was going to be your favorite bottle of 40 yr old scotch. Guess it's a 20 oz can of PBR now.
FF.
PS. Sparkles is on e. Com now. See if you can find the freckles in her pics when they are posted on her profile. [/QUOTE]What a difference one unshared freckle makes. Won't happen again, sir.
After less than 24 hours, it is amazing how one story, comment, words in a post can set this board on fire. My PM's, text msgs and e-mails are blowing up. What I said below about "T" was the point I was making about anyone, any provider, any hobbyist. It doesn't make any difference whether it is true or false. Unless you are in the room at the time of the incident, you don't know the truth!
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak;1084150]Regarding "BBFS": Maybe you should check some past posts on your wonderful "T". I think there is some reference there and some biblical knowledge.[/QUOTE]This is why slamming on this board and unsubstantiated comments that are derogatory towards a provider should not be posted. Especially BBFS. Hello, I referenced an old post and everyone fell right in line with it. You are idiots. If someone can reference one provider, why can't I reference another? Fair is fair right. Now cut it out, grow up and be gentlemen. These are ladies not wh*res. If they are wh*res then you are wh*re mongers. T and Cate both deserve an apology. Truth or Fiction, do we really know, if we were not present, no matter what anyone says, provider or hobbyist. Take things with a grain of salt, heed Ilapp's words and read the post from Cincinnati.
Nuff said.
FF.
PS. No sugarcoating here and no freckles.
Wow I thought providers had issues. Certain mongers do too wow get a grip dude.
The only thing it took was a visit with Misty. When she told me where we were meeting I was dreading the traffic and the parking. Despite my fears everything was smooth sailing and her room was very luxurious. I had seen her before but this time. Wow. At times I thought it would take heavy equipment to get the grin off my face. I'll leave the details between us and just say is she is one of the best.
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak;1084629] These are ladies not wh*res[/QUOTE]Well, I must be in the wrong place. The women we pay for sex represent the textbook definition of working girl. If T and Cate don't fall in that category, they shouldn't be discussed here at any length.
My comment is not directed to anyone specifically just seems there are a lot of issues between some mongers about posts. I thought we were supposed to put up reviews etc about providers not argue between each other. Peace to all.
[QUOTE=Niceguy52;1085001]Wow I thought providers had issues. Certain mongers do too wow get a grip dude.[/QUOTE]
Enough about the bickering, how about some reviews peeps?