[QUOTE=BurnerMale;5729756]Thanks for the info. At 550 for 30 minutes just nude I think I'm going to pass.[/QUOTE]Her rates have dropped to 475 for 30 minutes.
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[QUOTE=BurnerMale;5729756]Thanks for the info. At 550 for 30 minutes just nude I think I'm going to pass.[/QUOTE]Her rates have dropped to 475 for 30 minutes.
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5729057]I had a great time with Angel. Wonderfully intelligent and very personable, [/QUOTE]All the shit I'm not looking for at the strip club.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;5729616]I don't bother trying to convince them otherwise, but I got that same lecture in Kittens. "I'm a dancer; I'm not here for sex". I felt bad and apologized and started to leave after about a half of dance and she stopped me and gave me a hand job that lasted about 4 songs.[/QUOTE]That really is the best approach Michael. I realize that these women are approached all day long by numerous men, they usually get talked down to and most of the johns treat them like shit. Many SPs, strippers are bitter because of that. I am super polite and will always say "sorry" and "thank you". That gets me vastly better service and I have noticed this play out in my favor numerous times. It has also gotten me a lot of extras without extra pay. In that session I may not get what I want, but you can bet the next time I see her (and I will space it out appropriately. Timing is everything), She will give me what I want. I am extra polite but not a pushover by any means, it is a fine line to thread.
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5730317]Her rates have dropped to 475 for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]I was including room fee, cover, drink, low tipping. At 550 you could get a smoking hot escort for an hour, in a hotel room. You could hire an escort to do all the same things (nude dances) and it would be cheaper, longer, and more private.
If I'm not getting extras, I don't think about whether a girl is giving extras to other people. You could just get the same dances from a hot stripper that gives extras for cheaper.
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5729057]
Who wants a girl who just gives it up to random strangers?[/QUOTE]Hand Raised.
Me. I want that. I want that all day long.
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5729057]I had a great time with Angel. Wonderfully intelligent and very personable, was there waiting for her for over an hour before finally getting to talk. Seems like she's really busy and prefers to setup appointments. No extras, sadly, but she said she does get fully nude in the VIP. Partially topless dance, good array of moves when she's comfortable with you. I would dance with her again. Lately I tend to prefer the girls that don't do extras, I see them as cleaner. Who wants a girl who just gives it up to random strangers?[/QUOTE]I am really sorry this happened.
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5730317]Her rates have dropped to 475 for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]That is a lot.
She worked last night at Kittens.
Working off the weight gain from punching out Daddy's baby.
Still awesome oral skills.
[QUOTE=CoronaLime;5730908]That is a lot.[/QUOTE]If that's a lot, you must not have enough money anyways.
[QUOTE=BurnerMale;5730753]I was including room fee, cover, drink, low tipping. At 550 you could get a smoking hot escort for an hour, in a hotel room. You could hire an escort to do all the same things (nude dances) and it would be cheaper, longer, and more private.
If I'm not getting extras, I don't think about whether a girl is giving extras to other people. You could just get the same dances from a hot stripper that gives extras for cheaper.[/QUOTE]Why go to a strip club at all then? They are dancers and not escorts?
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5730959]Why go to a strip club at all then? They are dancers and not escorts?[/QUOTE]You are asking that question to the wrong people. The name of this forum is USASexGuide. I like dances with and without sex depending on the girl but at the price of 475 in a VIP room with no touching is to much. If they served alcohol I might get drunk enough to do it but the the next day I would feel like the dancer raped my wallet.
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5730548]That really is the best approach Michael. I realize that these women are approached all day long by numerous men, they usually get talked down to and most of the johns treat them like shit. Many SPs, strippers are bitter because of that. I am super polite and will always say "sorry" and "thank you". That gets me vastly better service and I have noticed this play out in my favor numerous times. It has also gotten me a lot of extras without extra pay. In that session I may not get what I want, but you can bet the next time I see her (and I will space it out appropriately. Timing is everything), She will give me what I want. I am extra polite but not a pushover by any means, it is a fine line to thread.[/QUOTE]Being clean, kind, and respectful in conversation and during private time gets you a better experience. If you have enough game to be interesting that's a bonus. No one responds well to someone who brings an attitude of entitlement or superiority.
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5730955]If that's a lot, you must not have enough money anyways.[/QUOTE]LOL. If you go twice a month and make 150 k a year that is 9% of your before tax income for someone to dance naked in front of you. Saying that's not a lot of money or that someone doesn't have a lot of money is woefully ignorant. Saying someone needs to make 300 k to go to a strip club twice a month to spend less than 5% of their pretax income is dumb.
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5730959]Why go to a strip club at all then? They are dancers and not escorts?[/QUOTE]Looking at it comparatively there are many other dancers that.
1) provide the same services at lower rates.
2) provide more services at lower or the same rate.
I only mentioned escorts as those rates are higher than high end escort rates. Her hour is like 950
[QUOTE=BurnerMale;5731222]LOL. If you go twice a month and make 150 k a year that is 9% of your before tax income for someone to dance naked in front of you. Saying that's not a lot of money or that someone doesn't have a lot of money is woefully ignorant. Saying someone needs to make 300 k to go to a strip club twice a month to spend less than 5% of their pretax income is dumb.[/QUOTE]I got an Oculus for Christmas and discovered VR Porn. I will probably never go to a strip club again. It's like having someone in 3-D right in front of you. Give it a try ($299)+$15-20/ mth for a website.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;5731624]I got an Oculus for Christmas and discovered VR Porn. I will probably never go to a strip club again. It's like having someone in 3-D right in front of you. Give it a try ($299)+$15-20/ mth for a website.[/QUOTE]Man, I usually agree with most your posts, but not here. This reminds me when * got started, look what it's done to real action, if only these things wouldn't exist LOL. I guess I need to adapt, but for a moment I need to rant. Ok rant over, have fun with your VR.
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5730959]Why go to a strip club at all then? They are dancers and not escorts?[/QUOTE]You her pimp or something? LOL.
She's hot but I get better dances WITH extras from other hotties at the clubs. Now I'm sure she's busy with noobs looking to fall in love but you're not going to have luck advertising her on this site. Plus her OF has the naughty pics if you just want to see her naked.
[QUOTE=Facials;5729386]No instagram. Just go anyday but Sunday between 2 pm and 7 pm. If you don't see her, it is because she is busy.[/QUOTE]Does anybody have an actual sighting as of late? I was at kittens a couple of times in the afternoon last week and didn't see her. Last time I saw her she mentioned she'll be going back to Brazil for a couple of months, maybe she left already?
[QUOTE=LuvTheAzz;5731734]Man, I usually agree with most your posts, but not here. This reminds me when * got started, look what it's done to real action, if only these things wouldn't exist LOL. I guess I need to adapt, but for a moment I need to rant. Ok rant over, have fun with your VR.[/QUOTE]Give it a try. I had no clue about how realistic it was. I actually was going to play games and my ex-hooker friend said, "fuck that, use it for porn". I laughed, but two days later, I was fucking hooked. All they need is the smell.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;5732133]All they need is the smell.[/QUOTE]Dude, that's fucking awesome! LOL!
[QUOTE=Michael1967;5732133]Give it a try. I had no clue about how realistic it was. I actually was going to play games and my ex-hooker friend said, "fuck that, use it for porn". I laughed, but two days later, I was fucking hooked. All they need is the smell.[/QUOTE]I haven't checked it out but I can well believe it's an upgrade from even the most vivid, 4 K, POV stuff they have these days. Which is quite something and that I do indeed like quite a bit:-p. But what I would find most lacking is just the tactile feedback I get from my hands on a woman's hips and feeling the warmth of her body against mine. I just love the way a woman's skin feels, and not even meaning the intimate places. Technology can't do that, at least not yet.
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5730959]Why go to a strip club at all then? They are dancers and not escorts?[/QUOTE]Everyone is a escort for the right price.
[QUOTE=EddyWhtwtr;5732725]I haven't checked it out but I can well believe it's an upgrade from even the most vivid, 4 K, POV stuff they have these days. Which is quite something and that I do indeed like quite a bit:-p. But what I would find most lacking is just the tactile feedback I get from my hands on a woman's hips and feeling the warmth of her body against mine. I just love the way a woman's skin feels, and not even meaning the intimate places. Technology can't do that, at least not yet.[/QUOTE]If you get around to it, try one of the sites that offer 7 or 8 K (they all cost money). It's simply amazing, I went back to my ex-hooker friend and said, "this should be illegal, you can literally quit dating". She said, her boyfriend with VR and a fleshlight means that she doesn't have to put out for weeks. I was spending $2-3 K month on escorts / sugar babies, I think I've spent $250 since Christmas and I've definitely upped the quality of who I interact with IRL.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;5732887]If you get around to it, try one of the sites that offer 7 or 8 K (they all cost money). It's simply amazing, I went back to my ex-hooker friend and said, "this should be illegal, you can literally quit dating". She said, her boyfriend with VR and a fleshlight means that she doesn't have to put out for weeks. I was spending $2-3 K month on escorts / sugar babies, I think I've spent $250 since Christmas and I've definitely upped the quality of who I interact with IRL.[/QUOTE]Too funny. I'm sorta reminded of that futuristic scene in Sleeper where the couple just pop into their Orgasmatron for a few seconds. No muss, no fuss.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXJsiPojgkU[/URL]
I'll have a look 🤪.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;5731624]I got an Oculus for Christmas and discovered VR Porn. I will probably never go to a strip club again. It's like having someone in 3-D right in front of you. Give it a try ($299)+$15-20/ mth for a website.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Older versions of the headset would give you massive headaches and make you want to throw up due to the jerky frame rate. They are very very good now. The technology behind them is far far more advanced now. Glad you are having a blast. I need to run out to Costco and get the latest version myself.
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5732980]Yeah. Older versions of the headset would give you massive headaches and make you want to throw up due to the jerky frame rate. They are very very good now. The technology behind them is far far more advanced now. Glad you are having a blast. I need to run out to Costco and get the latest version myself.[/QUOTE]Is it still tied to your Facebook account?
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5730317]Her rates have dropped to 475 for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Thanks Angel.
You really are not that hot.
475 for someone of your looks is overpriced.
For 300, over half the women you work with will do anything.
Anyone have prices / services for Paisley at Pandora's?
[QUOTE=ChubbyAlonso;5734500]Anyone have prices / services for Paisley at Pandora's?[/QUOTE]Used to be Brooklyn. HJ in the VIP section. CBJ in the private rooms; wanted 4 bills.
[QUOTE=BurnerMale;5733643]Is it still tied to your Facebook account?[/QUOTE]As of right now. Yes you need a facebook account (that is going to change soon according to reports). As of right now, I use a throwaway facebook account that is used only for VR porn. Unfortunately companies are now making it harder and harder to stay private and keep you personal information about your habits to yourself.
Anyone got extras from Ariel, Jade or Indica? What all is on the menu and at what cost? I feel like they are just IGing hot photos, but not providing services.
It seems Angel has discovered this message board. 😃.
475 for 30 minutes is beyond ridiculous. Used to get FS in Pandora's for under 150 not too long ago. Hope people come to their senses soon and stop throwing away money.
[QUOTE=BigFrank4701;5730317]Her rates have dropped to 475 for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5735122]As of right now. Yes you need a facebook account (that is going to change soon according to reports). As of right now, I use a throwaway facebook account that is used only for VR porn. Unfortunately companies are now making it harder and harder to stay private and keep you personal information about your habits to yourself.[/QUOTE]If giving up ANY personal identity / info is needed to use, that would be a hard stop for me. I'm considering dumping my regular Facebook as it is.
I have been quoted up to 700 for 15 min in the private rooms, I just look at them and laugh.
If you are a returning costumer to a stripper you can get a discount.
[QUOTE=SreeDeep;5735440]It seems Angel has discovered this message board. 😃.
475 for 30 minutes is beyond ridiculous. Used to get FS in Pandora's for under 150 not too long ago. Hope people come to their senses soon and stop throwing away money.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=CoronaLime;5734137]Thanks Angel.
You really are not that hot.
475 for someone of your looks is overpriced.
For 300, over half the women you work with will do anything.[/QUOTE]Yeah, even though it's a rarity, a girl who hasn't gone through childbirth yet, is more desirable.
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I recently move back to the area & was surprised to see that Sands has been renamed & under new ownership. Has anyone been since? It used to be a place where you can leave very happy. Also, there used to be a dancer named Blair, anyone remember or know if she is still doing her thing? Thanks!!
Daytime on Thursday.
All in with dirty talk bare HJ, lots of spit, tittycucking, CBJ with deep throat and cfs.
All in for 300.
[QUOTE=CoronaLime;5730910]She worked last night at Kittens.
Working off the weight gain from punching out Daddy's baby.
Still awesome oral skills.[/QUOTE]She is fat and lactating! She squirted in my mouth.
She must be close to 200 lbs.
It is so hot her daddy sends her back to takes loads from men while he collects unemployment.
Has anyone had a private dance with Ava at Pandoras? If so how was the mileage?