[QUOTE=ChadAdler;4363781]Hotels often offer discounted weekly rates. Most girls doing dates out of hotels are living in the rooms.[/QUOTE]Which seems like it would make them an even bigger target, no?
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[QUOTE=ChadAdler;4363781]Hotels often offer discounted weekly rates. Most girls doing dates out of hotels are living in the rooms.[/QUOTE]Which seems like it would make them an even bigger target, no?
[QUOTE=LandRover20;4364770]Which seems like it would make them an even bigger target, no?[/QUOTE]If cops wanted to go after any particular girl, all they would have to do it reply to her online ad, go wherever she tells them, and bust her there. Whether it's a room she's been staying in for a long time or not is irrelevant. That's simply not how sting operations generally work though. The police like to control the environment, so they will either get their own room to bust Johns in or pose as a John picking up women on the street.
Hotel workers are well aware of which rooms have women working out of them, but they're paying customers, so as long as they're not disturbing other guests, they're usually left alone. Occasionally a hotel in a shitty area will have a no-visitor policy, but other than that, going to see someone in a hotel room is not something you can get in trouble for.
A Detroit hotel that was well known for drugs and prostitution was raided a while back, but that involves warrants and wouldn't be worth doing to bust one girl working out of a room in GR.
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I understand that allot if not most of the providers are on something on a regular basis. However I am so sick and tired of not getting responses back. Anyone else having issues with responses or response time?
I'll text a few hours before and still nothing normally text 3 or 4 providers and still nothing. I have never ghosted anyone when I said I was on my way. I have changed my number a few times. I miss CL dearly LOL. Last night I got a response and I texted back immediately got a text back about 2 hours later. Seriously WTF? I understand you may be booked but I highly doubt it all day long. Thinking I might just hang this up.
Does anyone use text apps which ones?
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;4371171]I understand that allot if not most of the providers are on something on a regular basis. However I am so sick and tired of not getting responses back. Anyone else having issues with responses or response time?
I'll text a few hours before and still nothing normally text 3 or 4 providers and still nothing. I have never ghosted anyone when I said I was on my way. I have changed my number a few times. I miss CL dearly LOL. Last night I got a response and I texted back immediately got a text back about 2 hours later. Seriously WTF? I understand you may be booked but I highly doubt it all day long. Thinking I might just hang this up.
Does anyone use text apps which ones?[/QUOTE]Your post indicates you were trying to make contact on a Friday night. I've said this many times before. Don't try to see anyone new during prime time. Providers are getting a lot of messages on Fridays, contact and meet them on a weekday, now she knows you and will respond better (if she liked you).
I never monger on weekends, most girls are late and want to rush you because there's another monger waiting.
The only provider I see on weekends is Kandi, she's a very smart drug free provider that always treats me right.
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;4371171]I understand that allot if not most of the providers are on something on a regular basis. However I am so sick and tired of not getting responses back. Anyone else having issues with responses or response time?
I'll text a few hours before and still nothing normally text 3 or 4 providers and still nothing. I have never ghosted anyone when I said I was on my way. I have changed my number a few times. I miss CL dearly LOL. Last night I got a response and I texted back immediately got a text back about 2 hours later. Seriously WTF? I understand you may be booked but I highly doubt it all day long. Thinking I might just hang this up.
Does anyone use text apps which ones?[/QUOTE]I use Burner sometimes, it's pretty good.
I've found calling is sometimes much better than texting, it seems like it's easy for girls to lose track of their sea of texts. And yeah like Benz said once someone meets you once and puts you in their phone they're more likely to actually respond, so try off days if you can.
Here are some apps with good reviews: Textfree, Burner, TextNow, Talkatone.
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;4371171]I understand that allot if not most of the providers are on something on a regular basis. However I am so sick and tired of not getting responses back. Anyone else having issues with responses or response time?
I'll text a few hours before and still nothing normally text 3 or 4 providers and still nothing. I have never ghosted anyone when I said I was on my way. I have changed my number a few times. I miss CL dearly LOL. Last night I got a response and I texted back immediately got a text back about 2 hours later. Seriously WTF? I understand you may be booked but I highly doubt it all day long. Thinking I might just hang this up.
Does anyone use text apps which ones?[/QUOTE]
I will check them out makes it a bit easier not having to have two phones and hiding one. I normally can't call a provider where I'm living I will when I'm on my way there just to make sure I'm not getting myself into somthing I shouldn't be.
Thanks all.
[QUOTE=Wolverines;4372296]Here are some apps with good reviews: Textfree, Burner, TextNow, Talkatone.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Casey069;4373638]Any one seen this one! Is she legit! Any information is appreciated.
[URL]http://lansing.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/get-lost-in-the-curves/944232609447[/URL][/QUOTE]These types of Qs are better asked in the Escorts section (here or Lansing).
I like how I see fetish / fantasy friendly often but yet when you ask for somthing particular they won't do it or have some excuse. Anyone else have these issues? I've seen this with several providers.
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;4384021]I like how I see fetish / fantasy friendly often but yet when you ask for somthing particular they won't do it or have some excuse. Anyone else have these issues? I've seen this with several providers.[/QUOTE]Sounds like someone else might be making the list for them. If they did it themselves then they are just trying to get you in the door anyway they can.
If you do not give them all the money before you find out the real menu, you can give them less for the short menu. Always pay at the end or you might lose time and services from any provider, even if you have seen them before.
The person who controls the date is the person with the money. If they know they're not getting paid until you get laid, they are much more accommodating. If they say no play until you pay, walk out the door. Before your hand hits the door knob they are usually singing a different time.
Speaking of singing, KyraJade will sing to you during her massage. She's also one of those that wants her money upfront. For those that have been reviewed well, I bend the rules for them.
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This is how I meet girls on FB.
Need a ride ASAP. I have ⛽ money. Can anyone help me? Located 60th and Kalamazoo.
If I answer this and show up I can usually create a new UTR. Ask her why she doesn't have a car. Listen for however long it takes for her to get all her frustrations out. Then explain to her how she's sitting on a gold mine. She posted a ride request 3 min. Ago and I'm not available but I always check while I'm in Grand Rapids and I make time.
Now all we need is 250 k In crowdsource funding, soke smashing APP development and folks we have the next big thing in ride sharing. PUTA. We'll get you there, we'll get you off.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4385639]This is how I meet girls on FB.
Need a ride ASAP. I have ; money. Can anyone help me? Located 6xth and Kalamazoo.
If I answer this and show up I can usually create a new UTR. Ask her why she doesn't have a car. Listen for however long it takes for her to get all her frustrations out. Then explain to her how she's sitting on a gold mine. She posted a ride request 3 min. Ago and I'm not available but I always check while I'm in Grand Rapids and I make time.[/QUOTE]
August is the second biggest retail month of the year. Back to school drains as much or more money than Christmas. There will be a shortage of funds for all providers, escort and MP.
Negotiations will be in our favor the closer we get to the end of Aug. Use your big head to feed your little head more often.
One method I use, tell them I have a hobby phone and you can text me anytime. When they text say great I'd love to see you. I only have 40 right now. She will ask, can you do 75 please I really need the money. I have 50 and I can be there in one hour.
Always negotiating, stay safe
[QUOTE=Benz1;4386779]August is the second biggest retail month of the year. Back to school drains as much or more money than Christmas. There will be a shortage of funds for all providers, escort and MP.
Negotiations will be in our favor the closer we get to the end of Aug. Use your big head to feed your little head more often.
One method I use, tell them I have a hobby phone and you can text me anytime. When they text say great I'd love to see you. I only have 40 right now. She will ask, can you do 75 please I really need the money. I have 50 and I can be there in one hour.
Always negotiating, stay safe[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for the heads up, senior man. Let's help our esteemed friends get school supplies for thieir kids while also benefitting at the same time.
It is much more difficult to find low volume providers now. I used to randomly find girls on CL and BP, some that would post just one time, trying to make money for a spring break trip or something. I don't know how you would even find that type of girl now, I am sure that they still exist.
Once you've agreed to pay the rate now it's down to expected or agreed upon service. This is why I hold my money until the end. Is the pic real and recent? If not walk out, they've already been lying to you to get you in the door. I've had girls try to use a condom for BJ or short me on time. Holding all or half the money assures me I will get the double shot she allows within the half hour. If she doesn't like me holding MY Money until the end, I walk out the door.
We all get more excited about someone new and they're more nervous about you. Will you follow through and pay? To be a good negotiator you must stay strong and not cave. (If the little head is doing the thinking, this won't work) If we all do this, we will all benefit from the providers accepting this as the new normal in GR.
The secret to walking out the door is desensitizing, it gets easier to do after you've done it once. Prepare for a walkout. Text or call a provider you're familiar with ask if she's available today and I might have time to see you. If you have to walk out, she is your plan B but never ever tell her she was plan B. As I've mentioned before, always see a new provider on weekdays not on prime time this is best for everyone including your plan B. They are more available and happy to see a client during the slowed days.
[QUOTE=Comrad;4389226]It is much more difficult to find low volume providers now. I used to randomly find girls on CL and BP, some that would post just one time, trying to make money for a spring break trip or something. I don't know how you would even find that type of girl now, I am sure that they still exist.[/QUOTE]Agree. I am seeing on of my ATF providers later this week. She used to see 2 or 3 in a day. Now I am lucky to be one of regulars to get get scheduled in the que. Higher rates but still reasonable. However, she has the best GFE skills around and is only available for a short time. As usual, I let my little head doing the talking. Cannot share her info because I might end up off the preferred list. Gone are the days of low volume providers unless you want to pay through the nose. I understand, they have to make a living. Priorities for me are, safe and good service. I am willing to compromise higher volumes.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4393499]Once you've agreed to pay the rate now it's down to expected or agreed upon service. This is why I hold my money until the end. Is the pic real and recent? If not walk out, they've already been lying to you to get you in the door. I've had girls try to use a condom for BJ or short me on time. Holding all or half the money assures me I will get the double shot she allows within the half hour. If she doesn't like me holding MY Money until the end, I walk out the door.
We all get more excited about someone new and they're more nervous about you. Will you follow through and pay? To be a good negotiator you must stay strong and not cave. (If the little head is doing the thinking, this won't work) If we all do this, we will all benefit from the providers accepting this as the new normal in GR.
The secret to walking out the door is desensitizing, it gets easier to do after you've done it once. Prepare for a walkout. Text or call a provider you're familiar with ask if she's available today and I might have time to see you. If you have to walk out, she is your plan B but never ever tell her she was plan B. As I've mentioned before, always see a new provider on weekdays not on prime time this is best for everyone including your plan B. They are more available and happy to see a client during the slowed days.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Benz, I will definitely start following those steps to benefit the team.
[QUOTE=Comrad;4389226]It is much more difficult to find low volume providers now. I used to randomly find girls on CL and BP, some that would post just one time, trying to make money for a spring break trip or something. I don't know how you would even find that type of girl now, I am sure that they still exist.[/QUOTE]Ever since CL removed "personals" it's been very difficult to meet woman for casual hookups / affair or even hopeful UTR providers. However it's not impossible. I have found some really good f# at % buddies that way, but it does take some effort and probably not for the average monger. But if you enjoy the chase more than the catch, here is a long winded post on CL:
First know that any CL ad that is even subtly asking to meet someone of the opposite sex gets flagged almost immediately these days. If the ad gets through the auto filter it can still be a scam, a dude pretending to be woman, or an actual real person. Navigating CL is kind of like the Road Warrior: it's every man for himself with no rules. If creative post comes online for a woman trying to meet a man, the predominant mode of operation for guys appears to be respond quickly & flag it so nobody else can talk to her. Likewise if a man posts an ad it'll get flagged just as fast. It's like guys are trying to stomp out the competition. I'm pretty sure it's not the moral police who are flagging these ads for violating terms of service either because a gay male can post "bottom needing top" and it'll stay up for days. A straight man & woman though vaporizes within hours. That's my theory anyway.
If you want to find a discreet affair then CL is still pretty much your only "free / anonymous" place to do it. Married women still post / look there because you don't need an app, or have to pay. But to find a good woman on CL you'll still need to master the art of "the pickup" via online conversation just as you do in a bar. First you need to be quick because her ad won't last long. Being conversational, intelligent, charming, funny, and attractive doesn't hurt. Only bots and scammers respond to "what's up? A real woman won't respond to an unsolicited dick pic either, no matter how horny she might be. If you aren't good at picking up women in real life you probably won't have much success online. But CL still has women posting some not-so-subtle ads saying they need cash. And money talks. Those could be pros, or might be a potential UTR girl. I've had luck talking girls into doing more than sell video / panties, but you have to be engaging and not a creep about it.
Regardless what you do, look out for scams. A tried and true CL poster knows to obscure their email name so it doesn't go through, while a newbie might not. So if you get an email from someone who's name is blank it's a least a sign they're familiar with Craigslist whereas the real lonely housewife may be naive and will use her normal email. Look for signs and respond accordingly. If you do a pic exchange, ask for a posed selfie or something to ensure she's real. You do the same. Real people have no problem doing that but the fakes will make one hysterical excuse after another why they can't. I have come across guys posing as women online. Caught them red handed. I'm not sure if they are out there just playing games or trying to get the drop on others to blackmail. But it happens. Probably more often than you think.
If you come across a pro ad it'll be short and all business. If it's real a text number will given, so use a disposable number from a texting app so you. Those that go back & forth only over email aren't real. Also stay away from ads or responses that say email me at "bustymilfsexnow at G Mail" or something. I can't believe people fall for that. Also scroll down on each CL ad. Most have tons of white space before it gets to a jumble of "bot" verbal spew. Those are frauds that will spam the crap out of you if they get your email or phone.
As I stated, CL is pretty wild right now and not very reliable. If you are willing to put in the time you might find a gem here and there. It's not as barren as some think (myself having recent successes both locally and while visiting cities for a fraction of monger costs). But if you want to find someone right away with known skills then CL isn't for you and you'll pay for it.
She texted me on Sunday (unsolicited) with the same pictures she has on STG with message that she will be in Grand Rapids this week. I set up a date for today and confirmed again last night. I get to the area she posted and all went quite. No response to text or email. Fortunately, Lexy was available and accommodated me on short notice.
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Sheesh can't even get on there to look tonight!! Bad enough I can't go see anyone! Wish I had some digits and they could text me a few naughty pics!
Looks like it is back again. They sure have been struggling lately. Hopefully they got their problems ironed out.
[QUOTE=IrishGuy77;4400562]Sheesh can't even get on there to look tonight!! Bad enough I can't go see anyone! Wish I had some digits and they could text me a few naughty pics![/QUOTE]
I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4401546]I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.[/QUOTE]A mythical creature?
[QUOTE=Benz1;4401546]I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.[/QUOTE]Are you going to share your toys or keep them to yourself? LOL.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4401546]I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.[/QUOTE]I'll bite.
Link? Insight?
[QUOTE=Benz1;4401546]I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.[/QUOTE]Let us know when you're ready to share!
[QUOTE=Benz1;4401546]I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.[/QUOTE]Thats hard to come by.
Just met up with Nikki about a half hour ago. Definitly a good choice. She's a MILF, which I'm into, and her pictures were accurate. I just wanted head and some cowgirl and she delivered. Cute tits and a great big booty. She was very nice and punctual. The whole process of setting up an appointment was simple and to the point. I contacted her and within an hour I was leaving her location satisfied. Will definitely repeat!
Feel free to pm me with any questions.
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Can't hold it in any longer. Any trustworthy slim girls someone can recommend? Much appreciated my fellow mongers.
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A little marketing change. This is Blonde 25. She'd make a fortune if the full range of services were available but that's wishful thinking. If I had deeper pockets I'd consider the sugar daddy option LOL. Some of you guys may want to consider that.
[QUOTE=ChipCharger;4403720][URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/sugar-and-spice/114543295144[/URL]
A little marketing change. This is Blonde 25. She'd make a fortune if the full range of services were available but that's wishful thinking. If I had deeper pockets I'd consider the sugar daddy option LOL. Some of you guys may want to consider that.[/QUOTE]Not really questioning just double checking. Are you sure this is B25?
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4404136]Not really questioning just double checking. Are you sure this is B25?[/QUOTE]The phone number matches.
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4404136]Not really questioning just double checking. Are you sure this is B25?[/QUOTE]Google her if you doubt me. Look throughly at all the other sites listed as I did. You'll see the same photos and the same phone number. At points along the way. Compare the moles if you will. Am I sure? I'm pretty sure yeah. Call the sugar and spice number sir and put it to the test but I'd bet you'll get blonde 25. Her hair is dark in the sugar / spice pics and she has glasses but she wears glasses.
In the sugar / spice posts she is not denying who she is. She really doesn't use a name at all but uses the phrase within the post. It is not like she is changing her name. Like I said, it is marketing fair and square. They are pretty hot photos and I almost thought they were fake. I think it is pretty good out of the box marketing / thinking. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing. She is not abandoning her Blonde 25 name or image in fact both posts occur quite close together.
[QUOTE=ChipCharger;4404338]Google her if you doubt me. Look throughly at all the other sites listed as I did. You'll see the same photos and the same phone number. At points along the way. Compare the moles if you will. Am I sure? I'm pretty sure yeah. Call the sugar and spice number sir and put it to the test but I'd bet you'll get blonde 25. Her hair is dark in the sugar / spice pics and she has glasses but she wears glasses.
In the sugar / spice posts she is not denying who she is. She really doesn't use a name at all but uses the phrase within the post. It is not like she is changing her name. Like I said, it is marketing fair and square. They are pretty hot photos and I almost thought they were fake. I think it is pretty good out of the box marketing / thinking. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing. She is not abandoning her Blonde 25 name or image in fact both posts occur quite close together.[/QUOTE]The pics do resemble blonde25 but the wording in the ad about massage and part time sugar daddy is word for word the same ad Kristi kay started posting after she got busted.
[QUOTE=Stb421;4404978]The pics do resemble blonde25 but the wording in the ad about massage and part time sugar daddy is word for word the same ad Kristi kay started posting after she got busted.[/QUOTE]Notice the pictures on her ad on this site if you have any doubt.
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That pigtail photo......DAMN.
[QUOTE=ChipCharger;4405215]Notice the pictures on her ad on this site if you have any doubt.
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