[QUOTE=MonkeyMonger;3983029][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cc23d7b3-0606-486b-82f4-7b808ae37c09[/URL][/QUOTE]How many thousands of dollars does she want?
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[QUOTE=MonkeyMonger;3983029][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cc23d7b3-0606-486b-82f4-7b808ae37c09[/URL][/QUOTE]How many thousands of dollars does she want?
I have had a couple of nice conversations with her, right now she is at $$.
Wow hollywood, the fact that there might be LE on those SD sites kinda disturbs me a little and makes me kinda hesitant to get into it. There any good tips on how to detect LE on the other end? Same way we deal with escorts right? Like never be explicit about stuff till you’re confident, etc.
Went on a M&G with this girl that drove from victorville (she was in LA anyway). She was 5.10 and 125. Model figure. I was all ready for the FC, till I met her. The vibe was instantly bland. This girl was not the least bit flirty. I was disappointed but saved the $.4 (room included). And she looked like my x ATF, so I was dreaming maybe she was kinda like her. Not at all. (sad face).
When she moved in for the kiss goodbye I demurred. I just wanted to nip this one in the bud. I am sure she will be txting me later. Some girls don't have a clue. At least we only talked in the car (for 60 minutes). Dang is was dragging. I need to meet someone new and fun. And petite.
[QUOTE=HowdyDoody32;3986307]Wow hollywood, the fact that there might be LE on those SD sites kinda disturbs me a little and makes me kinda hesitant to get into it. There any good tips on how to detect LE on the other end? Same way we deal with escorts right? Like never be explicit about stuff till youre confident, etc.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a plan.
I have been using SA since my divorce 2 years ago and I think it is a great place to meet attractive, open minded, younger women. I have met about 6 girls total and 2 have turned into more like "dating" situations, one lived with me for a bit. I am 53 and prefer to meet women 33-40 and on that site I am a rockstar! I mean I am fit and fairly attractive and make a decent living but I have women out of my league wanting to come over! I just went back on after a while this weekend and got bombarded with messages!! And I mean let's face it regular daring costs money too, my marriage CERTAINLY cost me money! I have always been fairly generous to women I've been with so this isn't a huge stretch for me as a means to find great, younger women to date. Of course you have to be careful for flakes and con artists! And even with the long term ones you can always question whether their feelings for you are only financial based. For me I think its been both,They seem to like hanging out and appreciate some $$ help. So it's a win / win.
I am not trying to see as many girls as I can like some on here LOL (if this site was around in my 30's I would be! And there are ALL kinds on this site but the 2 girls I had a long term situation were great and we are still friends,they even brought some girlfriends over for some nights that I thought only rock stars experienced!
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3986319]Went on a M&G with this girl that drove from victorville (she was in LA anyway). She was 5.10 and 125. Model figure. I was all ready for the FC, till I met her. The vibe was instantly bland. This girl was not the least bit flirty. I was disappointed but saved the $.4 (room included). And she looked like my x ATF, so I was dreaming maybe she was kinda like her. Not at all. (sad face).
When she moved in for the kiss goodbye I demurred. I just wanted to nip this one in the bud. I am sure she will be txting me later. Some girls don't have a clue. At least we only talked in the car (for 60 minutes). Dang is was dragging. I need to meet someone new and fun. And petite.[/QUOTE]Model girls look good in their pics, but logistically in the FC, not as good as a petite little spinner. My x ATF was the only exception to this rule. She was like 6 feet tall, but skinny as hell, used to drive me crazy.
Any exciting or interesting stories to tell. Tell them here & pictures are always welcome.
Wants $ upfront to meet. No wonder she won't show her face. No good pics. Me no meet up. Asks for cash. Me no meet up. Me might have been born yesterday, but me not born last night.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/37959aef-5ac0-4220-9592-7be2da87c445[/URL]
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3987567]Wants $ upfront to meet. No wonder she won't show her face. No good pics. Me no meet up. Asks for cash. Me no meet up. Me might have been born yesterday, but me not born last night.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/37959aef-5ac0-4220-9592-7be2da87c445[/URL][/QUOTE]And its funny they all say the same thing. "I have to know I can trust you first". And then there is always the cellphone bil or the plea for gas money. Guys, do not fall for this stuff.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3987747]And its funny they all say the same thing. "I have to know I can trust you first". And then there is always the cellphone bil or the plea for gas money. Guys, do not fall for this stuff.[/QUOTE]Also don't Venmo them any money before meeting. I had one 19 yo girl give me this sob story about how it was her friends birthday that night, and she had Venmo'd some guy $300 for concert tix to surprise her friend with as a gift. She tells me the guy took her money then cancelled his account, then asks me if I'll help her and, of course, she will do anything for me if I send money. I sent her back a text asking her what made her think she wouldn't do the same to me as the guy in her BS story. She laughs and says True.
I don't talk to her again until the next day and asked her how her friends birthday went, and what they did instead of the concert. She tells me they did nothing, and that her friend went to sleep early instead. I about died laughing at the thought of some 18-20 yo girl going to sleep early on her birthday night which also happened to fall on a Friday no less. I didn't tell her that in text, but for fun I asked her if she'd like me to Venmo her the money. She, naturally, said yes. I told her not before we meetup for some fun, and she then asks if I will send her half of it now, and then she will collect the other half in person. I texted her back once more with an LOL and asked if that ever works.
Some of these girls come up with such creative BS it amusing, but also insulting that they think a guy will fall for any of it. As a rule: Always give in person. Never Venmo, paypal, or whatever it may be unless you don't ever want to see that money again. Always give in person. Insist on it.
[QUOTE=Boobman76;3987764]Also don't Venmo them any money before meeting. I had one 19 yo girl give me this sob story about how it was her friends birthday that night, and she had Venmo'd some guy $300 for concert tix to surprise her friend with as a gift. She tells me the guy took her money then cancelled his account, then asks me if I'll help her and, of course, she will do anything for me if I send money. I sent her back a text asking her what made her think she wouldn't do the same to me as the guy in her BS story. She laughs and says True.
I don't talk to her again until the next day and asked her how her friends birthday went, and what they did instead of the concert. She tells me they did nothing, and that her friend went to sleep early instead. I about died laughing at the thought of some 18-20 yo girl going to sleep early on her birthday night which also happened to fall on a Friday no less. I didn't tell her that in text, but for fun I asked her if she'd like me to Venmo her the money. She, naturally, said yes. I told her not before we meetup for some fun, and she then asks if I will send her half of it now, and then she will collect the other half in person. I texted her back once more with an LOL and asked if that ever works.
Some of these girls come up with such creative BS it amusing, but also insulting that they think a guy will fall for any of it. As a rule: Always give in person. Never Venmo, paypal, or whatever it may be unless you don't ever want to see that money again. Always give in person. Insist on it.[/QUOTE]There are exceptions to every rule. But far too few to break this one. I am sure we all have one story of a girl we advanced money to that we then did do the M&G or even the Deed. But it's just not worth it. There are too many real opportunities to meet real girls, that really do want to have fun.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e28f09bb-197b-4d1f-b150-09004860626c[/URL]
ME.
My standard intro letter.
HER.
I'm going to cut to the chase. I want sex tonight and I want it from you.
ME.
My standard $ offer.
HER.
Radio silence.
Another overpriced UTR. To you new guys... don't get too excited when this stuff happens.
Be patient and wait to get what you're really looking for.
When the prissy little white girls and GPS latinas hit me up, I would love to just respond with the message below.
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Hi Love. If you hit me up because you have some serious Daddy issues you need to work out in the bedroom... you came to the right place.
If you hmu thinking you were going to be able to pay your rent doing it... you came to the wrong place.
I am only here to be a classy girls dirty little secret. You will do the kinky things with me your big spending boring daddy will never think of (and look at you weird if you suggest it). And none of this may be of any interest to you. But no problem, go find your vanilla daddy to take you to the beverly center, then mastros for dinner, and then think some happy thoughts later while he gives you the best 20 minutes he's capable of before dozing off to sleep.
But if you really want to get nasty, then get back to me. Oh, and BTW your allowance for being a good little girl is $100 a date. So go ahead and block me, or lets make a time to meet at a cheap motel, so you can experience all the things you've only fantasized about or seen on the internet.
Because I'll be the one night stand you won't soon forget.
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The only reason I don't send this, is because I am sure they are the ones that get everyone kicked off the site.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3988133][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e28f09bb-197b-4d1f-b150-09004860626c[/URL]
ME.
My standard intro letter.
HER.
I'm going to cut to the chase. I want sex tonight and I want it from you.
ME.
My standard $ offer.
HER.
Radio silence.
Another overpriced UTR. To you new guys... don't get too excited when this stuff happens.
Be patient and wait to get what you're really looking for.[/QUOTE]You surprise me you went for her. She's been on the site 2 years. I thought you liked fresh ones. .
Had made arrangements to meet up with this little lady today in the FC for $. 5, but when she texted me to confirm we were still on she was now asking for $$. Told her we agreed to the $. 5, but she said she wouldn't budge. I normally do $$ anyway so that wasn't the issue, I just didn't like the upsell and her trying to alter the deal. No meet happened. I sometimes wonder if they think it's my loss that I walked away, but I feel like I saved the $. 5 and she gave it up over. 5. I guess she wasn't needing the $. 5 all that badly. Oh well. On to the next.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ee43f04d-4ebf-4b54-a190-d2a4dedc52dd[/URL]
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3988398]You surprise me you went for her. She's been on the site 2 years. I thought you liked fresh ones. .[/QUOTE]I'll offer any petite semi attractive girl a $. Nothing to lose. Fresh is best, but I,m open minded.
[QUOTE=Boobman76;3988855]Had made arrangements to meet up with this little lady today in the FC for $. 5, but when she texted me to confirm we were still on she was now asking for $$. Told her we agreed to the $. 5, but she said she wouldn't budge. I normally do $$ anyway so that wasn't the issue, I just didn't like the upsell and her trying to alter the deal. No meet happened. I sometimes wonder if they think it's my loss that I walked away, but I feel like I saved the $. 5 and she gave it up over. 5. I guess she wasn't needing the $. 5 all that badly. Oh well. On to the next.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ee43f04d-4ebf-4b54-a190-d2a4dedc52dd[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah, I was supposed to meet this little latina yesterday, and she said something about she is with her GF and I need take her home first because they are afraid to walk in their area at nite. I tell her I want to keep things simple. Just walk the girl home, and since its such a bad area, afterward I will uber you to my area. She says that sounds sketchy to her. I tell her the only thing sketchy is her hood and I don't want to go there. Never heard back from her. I say when its not easy, simple and drama free, just move on.
This one wants a single K, and her body has a solid argument for it. Looks worth it to me, but damn, I just can't give that much to one girl per meet. I can, but I just don't want to and it would severely lessen the girls I could afford meet haha. I even told her I usually do $$ per meet (I don't) to see if she'd bite, but she wouldn't go for it. I ought to set a single K aside every year for a once-a-year thing where I can meet up with girls that look like this. Got to be good to yourself and have a nice treat now and then.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e49e9e07-72b9-433f-b245-d3c558885fb3[/URL]
[QUOTE=WHM69;3985575]How many thousands of dollars does she want?[/QUOTE]Just one. I told her that was more than I was willing. We'll see.
[QUOTE=Boobman76;3990375]This one wants a single K, and her body has a solid argument for it. Looks worth it to me, but damn, I just can't give that much to one girl per meet. I can, but I just don't want to and it would severely lessen the girls I could afford meet haha. I even told her I usually do $$ per meet (I don't) to see if she'd bite, but she wouldn't go for it. I ought to set a single K aside every year for a once-a-year thing where I can meet up with girls that look like this. Got to be good to yourself and have a nice treat now and then.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e49e9e07-72b9-433f-b245-d3c558885fb3[/URL][/QUOTE]Just MHO but there are definitely other girls on the site as good as her for $$.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3990611]Just MHO but there are definitely other girls on the site as good as her for $$.[/QUOTE]I offered her 4 x $, but for some reason when I submitted that review it only shows 2 x $, and I can't edit it to show correctly.
[QUOTE=Boobman76;3990826]I offered her 4 x $, but for some reason when I submitted that review it only shows 2 x $, and I can't edit it to show correctly.[/QUOTE]I get that a girl asking for 1k would make her happy, but I have to figure that they don't really care about sex too much, because at those rates they are not going to get much action. While I may not pay the $$ and $$$ rates, at least those girls are looking for sex a few times a week. Meaning they like what they do. At those much higher rates they obviously don't.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3990217]Yeah, I was supposed to meet this little latina yesterday, and she said something about she is with her GF and I need take her home first because they are afraid to walk in their area at nite. I tell her I want to keep things simple. Just walk the girl home, and since its such a bad area, afterward I will uber you to my area. She says that sounds sketchy to her. I tell her the only thing sketchy is her hood and I don't want to go there. Never heard back from her. I say when its not easy, simple and drama free, just move on.[/QUOTE]Well what do you know. The little latina hits me up yesterday all apologetic and wants to know if I will see her. So we make up and agree to have her uber over to my area so I can check her out on my turf, before making a final decision. This girl is not a looker, but I just had a funny feeling about her. So anyway she takes the uber and we meet and talk in the car. She is a soft butch lesbian chick from the barrio. We go to the no-tel and actually have an amazing time. What she lacked in looks she more than made up for in the FC. Her oral skills were first rate (minimum a 9 out of 10). And she made love (and made out with me) as if I were her Daddy. I am 100% convinced I was her first time. A real NP (now an SB).
I left totally satisfied. Went home, snuggled up to my GF and slept like a baby.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3992355]Well what do you know. The little latina hits me up yesterday all apologetic and wants to know if I will see her. So we make up and agree to have her uber over to my area so I can check her out on my turf, before making a final decision. This girl is not a looker, but I just had a funny feeling about her. So anyway she takes the uber and we meet and talk in the car. She is a soft butch lesbian chick from the barrio. We go to the no-tel and actually have an amazing time. What she lacked in looks she more than made up for in the FC. Her oral skills were first rate (minimum a 9 out of 10). And she made love to me as if I was her Daddy. I am 100% convinced I was her first time. A real NP (now an SB). I left totally satisfied, went home, took a shower, snuggled up to my GF and slept like a baby.[/QUOTE]Tell tale signs that you have scooped up a girl who never plays for pay:
1. she flakes out on you and then calls you back. I remember when I used to date, when a girl flaked on me she always called me back the next day.
2. she is willing to take an uber over to your house for her first time. When I used to date, I used to have girls take a taxi over to my place and they were totally cool with it.
3. she is down to hang out at the best western on franklin or some other such shithole. I know most civilian girls are thrilled to hang out at a motel.
4. she has good oral skills.
5. she treats you like her daddy!
Another non pro in the rough. Do you know if she has ads up on silxa?
[QUOTE=GoldenMan;3980902]Sitting here at John Wayne airport, waiting to catch my flight to Vegas.
Last weekend I checked SA girls in Vegas and found dozens upon dozens of young lovelies who imply that short-term meetups are preferred and out-of-towners are welcome. Some obvious professionals, some obvious non-professionals, some ambiguous. A good time to be had, nonetheless.
I booked a suite at the Wynn for 4 nights, and began blasting out messages, presenting myself honestly as a Las Vegas visitor from Southern California looking to have a good time, and hopefully develop chemistry that will result in repeat meetups and visits.
The responses were overwhelming and the last 48 have been seen a flurry of logistical preparations that would make General Eisenhower proud. But I have succeeded in keeping my schedule completely full.
I have a dinner date tonight (Thursday), and then both a lunch and dinner date for each other day, each with a different girl. Flying back home Monday morning.
I know I'm setting myself up for GPS, but I don't care. I can afford it. Will report back with details.[/QUOTE]So where is the follow up report? Good, bad or ugly. Lets hear it.
[QUOTE=Hundred;3992374]Tell tale signs that you have scooped up a girl who never plays for pay:
1. she flakes out on you and then calls you back. I remember when I used to date, when a girl flaked on me she always called me back the next day.
2. she is willing to take an uber over to your house for her first time. When I used to date, I used to have girls take a taxi over to my place and they were totally cool with it.
3. she is down to hang out at the best western on franklin or some other such shithole. I know most civilian girls are thrilled to hang out at a motel.
4. she has good oral skills.
5. she treats you like her daddy!
Another non pro in the rough. Do you know if she has ads up on silxa?[/QUOTE]I detect a bit of sarcasm (lol) . But lets be real, every girl has a first time. Its not my goal to search for first timers, but they are out there and I have had a few. But its never been my main objective. My current GF was a first timer for sure (practically a virgin). And I have had one real virgin since I been in the bowl. But just to clarify a little.
1 - her rent was due the next day at 11 am. She was short even after the date and tried to get me to see her again at 9 am this morning (a first). I passed.
2 - met at a coffee shop 2 blocks from my house.
3 - she is from the hood. And any non-cockroach infested room would be better then the one she lives in.
4 - just my good luck, she went above and beyond what most UTR's are willing to do, about equal to my not so new little girl or any x long term regulars.
5 - there is a difference between a girl doing what you ask (which is enough for me), and one that acts like a high school girl after a couple of drinks in the back seat of your car. She was the latter.
There is a fine line between being a good actress (especially in this town) and being the genuine article. I could list a few other tells that convinced me she was for real. But I don't get into the long drawn out dissertations to prove a point that some others do on some other threads. Either way I am happy to live in a world of suspended disbelief.
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On another note. My not so new little girl just told me I am her first real BF and that she is madly in love with me. We have been seeing each other for about 5 months. I have been telling her I feel the same, and she is a very chill sweet little girl that has given me better sex than my GF ever has. But I do love my GF and have been with her for 5 years now off and on. Hopefully she will move out soon as her career (of sorts) does seem to be picking up speed. Or if mine did I would move her out. But I can't afford that today.
I hide girls profiles all the time on SA (seeking). But where is the link to go see all these hidden girls? There isn't one on the site.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/settings/hidden-members[/URL]
There are girls out there that are just as willing to be in the situations we want them to be in. It's really a matter of searching, as HollywoodGuy mentions, find your type. It makes the in person interactions that much more genuine which puts the lady at ease. Some of these girls don't have the best self-esteem and truly enjoy the attention. Shame really.
Had a 20 year just drive out to my job for an initial meeting, flaked last night but was up for it tonight. So worth it. I'm an oral aficionado. Told her what the going rate was, $, and she countered with half. Full effort though. Going to set something up with her again this week most likely.
I feel like a real 49 er with this gold mine that is Seeking. There's more than enough for us here.
[QUOTE=Beast6676;3993158]There's more than enough for us here.[/QUOTE]About 10 lifetimes worth.
The most recent SB is an18 year old with a beautiful champagne breasts and a killer ass She has told me that she loves sex and has it every other day. But what she thinks of sex is FC, which is fine, but she isn't into anything else. Not into oral, giving or receiving. She'll do it, but we all know the difference, when someone loves something. The FC is good but I like the build up. We have met twice and the second time the fun just wasn't there. I had mention her being a bit neutral the first time, just not into it. The second time was much more pronounced. She definitely is available schedule-wise and texted me again this week. I thought I would see what would happen if I said sure we could meet up but it would have to be just for fun. That changed her mind, not surprisingly and no hard feelings on my end, as I am pretty certain I am moving on.
[QUOTE=Beast6676;3993158]find your type. It makes the in person interactions that much more genuine which puts the lady at ease. [/QUOTE]I had two hits over the weekend. Number and age 22 is exactly my type and we share a common fetish. So it was a no brainer. Number and age 18 lives a light year away but she may take the train as she is the curious type. Admittedly if you are the kinky type its a lot easier to connect with like minded girls. But even if you are the vanilla type you still have some preferences, let the ladies know what they are. Its always best to connect on a real level.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3994267]I had two hits over the weekend. Number and age 22 is exactly my type and we share a common fetish. So it was a no brainer. Number and age 18 lives a light year away but she may take the train as she is the curious type. Admittedly if you are the kinky type its a lot easier to connect with like minded girls. But even if you are the vanilla type you still have some preferences, let the ladies know what they are. Its always best to connect on a real level.[/QUOTE]Supposed to hit the no-tel this week with number 22 from the last post. She wants to get her hair and nails done before we meet (at her expense of course). Number 18 already went MIA. But when they are 18 you goota expect that to happen more often than not.
[QUOTE=WHM69;3985575]How many thousands of dollars does she want?[/QUOTE]1 k and if it's within your budget she's a lot of fun. All day and all night. She hosts as well.
I am always saying that latinas don't like me. Maybe I was just aiming too high on the latina princess ladder. This one seems very excited to meet. Coed with a full time job. Petite 5.2 , but I guess by latina or asian standards this is a lot more normal. I usually try to get at least 2-3 times as many girls to say yes than I could ever possibly meet. And then work it out from there. Because they flake, I change my mind, too far away, scheduling issues, etc. There is safety in numbers.
Bu this one is only 10 minutes from me. Like a $5 uber pool.
[QUOTE=Boobman76;3990375]This one wants a single K, and her body has a solid argument for it. Looks worth it to me, but damn, I just can't give that much to one girl per meet. I can, but I just don't want to and it would severely lessen the girls I could afford meet haha. I even told her I usually do $$ per meet (I don't) to see if she'd bite, but she wouldn't go for it. I ought to set a single K aside every year for a once-a-year thing where I can meet up with girls that look like this. Got to be good to yourself and have a nice treat now and then.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e49e9e07-72b9-433f-b245-d3c558885fb3[/URL][/QUOTE]I've seen that profile before, she's not a big attraction for me, but I understand. However, I'd say that you could try her at the 4-500 level, she might bite. I also NEVER negotiate sugar online, when you do that you are shooting yourself in the foot. Depending on how nice you are, and how attracted she is, she might be willing to do you. Somewhat like strippers, yeah, they can command a lot, but get hit on so much, they know every cheesy line.
You are also fishing in the same pond as me. PM me and we can maybe compare notes.
HG, you want some experience reports? OK, I have had a SB who is a volleyball player, so you can guess the body type. Hard muscled and very tall. I am taller, so that's fine. She has one of the looser cooches I have experienced, and there is something about her anatomy that seems to trap air inside. So, at times, when she walks around, or moves on the bed, it emits 'pussy farts'. Not offensive, of course, and offers no pluses or minuses sexually that I have observed, just rare.
The upside to paying a $ a date... is you are paying a $ a date. The down side is... you do get flaked on more. Happened to me tonite.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3996224]I've seen that profile before, she's not a big attraction for me, but I understand. However, I'd say that you could try her at the 4-500 level, she might bite. I also NEVER negotiate sugar online, when you do that you are shooting yourself in the foot. Depending on how nice you are, and how attracted she is, she might be willing to do you. Somewhat like strippers, yeah, they can command a lot, but get hit on so much, they know every cheesy line.
You are also fishing in the same pond as me. PM me and we can maybe compare notes.[/QUOTE]I've since found her Instagram and some online pics, and she wasn't as pretty as I'd imagined her to be for 1 K, but she is still a knockout. I wasn't as interested though afterwards. I've also stopped negotiating online. It makes for a good opportunity to get their number and negotiate through text instead, but also to save the number to reveal their Instagram / Snap / FB account if they possess one. I am in OC, but the OC Sugar Baby thread is so dead I post in here.
[QUOTE=Mile22;3969470]All the recent traffic & story-telling in the thread has inspired me to share my own SA experience.
I've been on the site for nearly a year.
I'm married, but had been with my wife for over 10 years prior to tying the knot.
She gave me a hall pass as an anniversary gift.
Initially used it on HX, but SA is better for what I'm seeking.
It expires at the end of this year though so my time is coming to an end.
I've met with all types over the last year.
Will do a write-up sharing what's worked for me & my various experiences, and post here in a few days.[/QUOTE]I'm in a similar boat. Had signed up for SA a couple years back but had never used it. Just filled out my profile and paid for premium and now my inbox is filling up. Can't tell who is serious and who's not.
Also married and have a hall pass. So very curious how your adventures are. Will report back on mine too once I have any to share.