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There are 67 counties and 283 cities in Florida. In my opinion, the recent bust in Jupiter is just an isolated incident. Out of caution, I don't visit AMPs in Polk county, and I would not visit an AMP in Jupiter, FL. I have been visiting AMPs almost every week for many years, and have never had an incident with a LEO. I worry more about getting struck by lightning. Just my opinion.
On the surface, your assertion seems a good one until you get to the politics of it. It all depends on how much the local head county mounty wants to get his / her name in the paper as a fighter for purity in his / her jurisdiction. The guy in Polk County is a pretty good example of the headline grabbing constable.
As for me, I'm putting the hiatus on AMP's for awhile until things die down. The fact that AMP's exist and have existed for quite some time in the overwhelming number of counties and cities in FL, and the fact that LEO has largely ignored them because they get bigger notoriety (for example drug busts) for other crimes is pretty much a given.
But now, these guys can make a name for themselves by busting AMP's and their customers which they can trot out for the next election, does, I think, make AMP's a bit more of a risk.
Be careful out there.
[QUOTE=Call234;4170559]There are 67 counties and 283 cities in Florida. In my opinion, the recent bust in Jupiter is just an isolated incident. Out of caution, I don't visit AMPs in Polk county, and I would not visit an AMP in Jupiter, FL. I have been visiting AMPs almost every week for many years, and have never had an incident with a LEO. I worry more about getting struck by lightning. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
The Sheriff in Hillsborough County has been very active, as well. Enough so that I'm positive he is planning to run as a moralistic "Law & Order" candidate for a higher office in 2020, if not sooner.
I rarely go into Tampa anyway, but I absolutely would not be going to any AMPs, modeling or aroma therapy places in Hillsborough for the foreseeable future.
Last night I wanted to relax, get a massage, and be taken care of. Decided to go to Sun, as I hadn't been there in a while.
Kimberly was excited to see me. Very excited to take my money. She giggled and acted like it was her drug.
In came attendant who's name I did not get. Older lady.
Shower was nothing exciting. No teasing, just getting clean.
Someone else entered the building as I was about to start my session. The girls met in the hall, and when my attendant came back in, she explained she will do fun part first, so it is even more fun. As if I don't know it's to get me out of there sooner, so she can get to the next customer. I was in and out in less than half hour for my 2. Investment. Fun part was quick and non exciting,. Kimberly came in to do massage after, but I was in the mood to leave by that point.
This wil probably be my last visit to Sun.
At one time Sun was the very best in the area, and not by a little either.
Charming attendants who provided truly memorable experiences, so much so that even after all this time, those of us who were regulars still have great memories.
Then the business got sold.
The level of service has slipped quite badly as has the quality and personality of the attendants. Kimberly is still there and she's nice, but seems to be under quite a bit of pressure from her higher ups, wherever and whomever they are.
There have been a few good attendants, but in general we're looking a "C" class, and I'm sorry to see it.
Considering how badly Sun has slipped, and keeping in mind the kerfuffle going on regarding AMP's, I've decided to take an extended hiatus from AMP's and Sun in particular.
It's really a shame.
[QUOTE=Bradentoon;4182338]Last night I wanted to relax, get a massage, and be taken care of. Decided to go to Sun, as I hadn't been there in a while.
Kimberly was excited to see me. Very excited to take my money. She giggled and acted like it was her drug.
In came attendant who's name I did not get. Older lady.
Shower was nothing exciting. No teasing, just getting clean.
Someone else entered the building as I was about to start my session. The girls met in the hall, and when my attendant came back in, she explained she will do fun part first, so it is even more fun. As if I don't know it's to get me out of there sooner, so she can get to the next customer. I was in and out in less than half hour for my 2. Investment. Fun part was quick and non exciting,. Kimberly came in to do massage after, but I was in the mood to leave by that point.
This wil probably be my last visit to Sun.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bradentoon;4182338] ... As if I don't know it's to get me out of there sooner, so she can get to the next customer. I was in and out in less than half hour for my 2. Investment. Fun part was quick and non exciting,. Kimberly came in to do massage after, but I was in the mood to leave by that point.
This wil probably be my last visit to Sun.[/QUOTE]Poor service is typical of 3rd rate businesses. Could be a massage, housekeeping, landscaping, cheap haircut or whatever. They collected some extra money that day but lost your business forever.
I live far away but visit the area frequently. I feel fortunate that I visited Sun several times while it was still good.
[QUOTE=Horsetrader;4182959]Poor service is typical of 3rd rate businesses. Could be a massage, housekeeping, landscaping, cheap haircut or whatever. They collected some extra money that day but lost your business forever.
I live far away but visit the area frequently. I feel fortunate that I visited Sun several times while it was still good.[/QUOTE]I wish I would have hit the candy jar a little harder. Kimberly did give me 2 waters as I left. Thats one more than normal.
My hiatus is on. Sorry AMPs.
[QUOTE=Bradentoon;4182338]Last night I wanted to relax, get a massage, and be taken care of. Decided to go to Sun, as I hadn't been there in a while.
Kimberly was excited to see me. Very excited to take my money. She giggled and acted like it was her drug.
In came attendant who's name I did not get. Older lady.
Shower was nothing exciting. No teasing, just getting clean.
Someone else entered the building as I was about to start my session. The girls met in the hall, and when my attendant came back in, she explained she will do fun part first, so it is even more fun. As if I don't know it's to get me out of there sooner, so she can get to the next customer. I was in and out in less than half hour for my 2. Investment. Fun part was quick and non exciting,. Kimberly came in to do massage after, but I was in the mood to leave by that point.
This wil probably be my last visit to Sun.[/QUOTE]You should have had her give you a massage after. I've had that pulled on me twice in the last 10 years or so, and I just insisted on staying and getting my full hour. What are they going to do, call the police? Though, another time, a girl I knew very well offered to refund half the tip and house fee because one of her big tip clients had just come in "he love me, give very big tip!" I told her to keep the tip (we'd already done the real fun part) if she would do something special for me the next time that she had always been afraid to do before. Deal done. She got her big tip, her big tipping client got what he wanted, and the next visit she tried what I wanted--and she was fine with doing it every time I visited thereafter. She eventually went back to China and I hope the shop she wanted to open is doing well.
Was it Misha? I had her the last time I was there and had pretty much the same experience. I told Kimberley I was not happy.
[QUOTE=Bradentoon;4182338]Last night I wanted to relax, get a massage, and be taken care of. Decided to go to Sun, as I hadn't been there in a while.
Kimberly was excited to see me. Very excited to take my money. She giggled and acted like it was her drug.
In came attendant who's name I did not get. Older lady.
Shower was nothing exciting. No teasing, just getting clean.
Someone else entered the building as I was about to start my session. The girls met in the hall, and when my attendant came back in, she explained she will do fun part first, so it is even more fun. As if I don't know it's to get me out of there sooner, so she can get to the next customer. I was in and out in less than half hour for my 2. Investment. Fun part was quick and non exciting,. Kimberly came in to do massage after, but I was in the mood to leave by that point.
This wil probably be my last visit to Sun.[/QUOTE]
Just a note to my brothers in Sarasota. Emily, my ATF from Orlando is at this spa for March. She is very pretty 9. 5/10 and mid twenties (really!) Super sweet girl with a great attitude. Seniors can PM me. Don't miss out.
SBB.
[QUOTE=Jokester1;4184161]You should have had her give you a massage after. I've had that pulled on me twice in the last 10 years or so, and I just insisted on staying and getting my full hour. What are they going to do, call the police? Though, another time, a girl I knew very well offered to refund half the tip and house fee because one of her big tip clients had just come in "he love me, give very big tip!" I told her to keep the tip (we'd already done the real fun part) if she would do something special for me the next time that she had always been afraid to do before. Deal done. She got her big tip, her big tipping client got what he wanted, and the next visit she tried what I wanted--and she was fine with doing it every time I visited thereafter. She eventually went back to China and I hope the shop she wanted to open is doing well.[/QUOTE]If I knew Kimberly gave a super massage, I might have stayed. Might.
[QUOTE=AsFanDan;4184816]Was it Misha? I had her the last time I was there and had pretty much the same experience. I told Kimberley I was not happy.[/QUOTE]I did not get her name. Kimberly didn't tell me, the attendant didn't offer it, I didn't ask.
I will ask next time for the interest of this forum, although I don't think you will know who you are getting at Sun until you get into the room.
Don't feel horrible for the providers. The human trafficking allegations are almost certainly a sham. That is just not how the Asian massage business works. I used to date a spa girl for a long time and got an inside look, not just at her spa but at many spas all over the country. These women have a very wide network of friends, both workers and owners, and it is not a human trafficking network.
The girls usually do live in the spas, but not because they are sex slaves or poor. They live in the spas because they travel around to work, and you guys know this is true! How often do you hear that "so-and-so is on vacation" or "so-and-so go New York"? The girls work 7 days a week for a few months and then they rotate out. And they actually are on vacation. They take a break for a couple of weeks or a month and then return or go to another spa. Why get a place to live or a set of wheels if you're only going to be in a city for a few months? Doesn't make sense. Live in the spa, maximize your earnings. Sleep, work, money, sleep, work, money, sleep, work, money, vacation. Lather, rinse, repeat.
I think there is some human trafficking in this business, but it's pretty damn rare, and I don't think it's happening in Tampa Bay and I definitely think the Martin county trafficking accusations are a sham. (I have very good reasons to think this that I can't share here.) Remember, all these women talk on WeChat all over the country. News travels fast. If a mamasan decided to keep women as slaves, people would know right away. It's just not how it's done.
The girls aren't found through some human trafficking ring. They put an ad on a website and someone answers it. They talk on WeChat, often on video. Then the girl flies in, gets picked up at the airport, and goes to work. I saw this play out dozens of times. It was always friendly and normal. No one arrived in chains in the back of a van. They flew in dressed well, went to dinner with us, and then off to work.
The door fee is usually $80. It varies from place to place, but the girls get a cut of that, usually $30, and the owner gets $50. Whatever tips the girl gets are hers to keep. The usual handjob tip is $40 and most girls see about 4 guys per day. So if they work seven days a week for three months, the haul is $25,200. Popular girls who do more will make a LOT more than this. These girls aren't poor maltreated sex slaves. Most of them make more than you probably do. I met lots of them through my girlfriend. They all had the latest iPhone Xs, expensive purses and shoes, the older ones had kids in college which they paid, all of that. These girls aren't poor, they're rich. They look poor to you because they choose to live a different way. You see them in their little spa outfits, not dressed to the nines to go out on the town. Does it make sense to anyone that a trafficked sex slave would have an iPhone X? I've been on mass shopping trips to the mall with these girls, and they have blackbelts in shopping with your monger money.
That leads me to something else. When I was on the inside, the girls would always laugh about guys who thought they would rescue them from being poor spa girls. They would mock the guy for probably having "low money" as they put it. These girls make piles of cash and most expect the lifestyle that goes with it. If you want to date one of these girls, and especially if you don't want her to work anymore, you'd best be prepared to make north of $200,000 per year, because she will expect you to keep her gravy train rolling. (I'll bet you'd need $300,000+ to date Momo at Han River. My guess is that she makes $800 per day at a minimum. A three-month stint for her is at least $70,000.).
The other thing to take note of is that the mamasan is sometimes not the owner. Sometimes, the masseuse you think is just a worker owns the place and the mamasan is her aunt or some other relative. You'll never know who owns the spa you're in because they'll never tell you unless you really get inside like I did. (And when I found out, I was very, very surprised. All that time I thought one person owned it when it turned out it was the person I least suspected.) Also, the person who owns it on paper may not be the "real" owner. Spas change hands all the time informally without any change in official paperwork. The owner-on-paper may have owned the place you're at 5 years ago and is long gone to another city and another spa.
Human trafficking is a terrible thing. It does happen. But it's not happening at your typical spa. What is happening is that anti-prostitution activists are using fake human trafficking accusations as a screen to try to get the spas closed. Bloviating loud-mouthed sheriffs are spewing slander against these people. It really angers me. Don't help them perpetuate these lies!
Hello Gentlemen:
I'm going to be in your area on vacation soon looking for Asian BJ NUDE FUN any one have suggestions? Mainly around Anna Maria Is, Bradenton or Sarasota. Fell free to PM me.
Had a session scheduled for yesterday morning, but she cancelled, so I was scrambling for an alternative. Tried Sun first, but Kimberly wasn't there and I didn't want to deal with a different mama-san, so I decided to try Japan Sauna again. Called ahead to confirm availability and was able to walk right in. As far as I could determine, I was the only client there at that time. I drew Hannah, (Korean, 5'5", slender, late 30's or early thirties, shoulder length medium brunette hair, large A / small B naturals, cute butt, has pretty decent English and did talk once I started the conversation.
TS was pretty good. She took her time, was very thorough and did nice teasing once I made it clear I enjoyed that. Back in the room she gave me a 10-15 minute back rub, before having me flip. Standard AMP formula, till I finished with her riding me ACG. What made this session different was the level of her enthusiasm. Not claiming I rocked her world like it had never been rocked before, but she made it seem like I had, without the blatant fake adoration that you often get at an AMP, especially the first time with an AMP girl. This was easily my best session at Japan Sauna.
Penny & Sharon at Sun are still better, but I haven't seen either for a couple of months. Until they return, Hannah seems to be a more than adequate substitute.