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[QUOTE=Jax411]There is a law or something that if they jam you and you can prove that you are a jax resident (valid lic and home address etc) you can ask for something like a "notice to appear" and they won't be able to take you in; someone on here may know more about this; now this won't necessarily keep you out of shame shame shame but at least you won't have to go w/ them.[/QUOTE]There is no law that requires Uncle Leo to give you a notice to appear. That is purely their call. If you are a local resident and have no prior record, they can issue a notice to appear for minor misdemeanors. But that is CAN, not MUST.

If you find yourself in a jam remember, be respectful, don't resist and DON'T TALK. Don't deny, don't lie, don't try to explain. Simply don't talk, with one exception. Recent Supreme court rulings puts the burden on you to affirmatively assert your rights to remain silent. So the only thing you should say to the police, after giving them your identification, if you are being arrested is "I am asserting my right to remain silent and I request to speak to an attorney. "

I am an attorney and I have seen hundreds of guys over the years doing the walk of shame in J-1 court after being arrested the night before.

Be safe. Be smart

But stewie, even though charges were dropped, were they still legally allowed to post your pix?

Also, this is one thing I forgot to mention; even if you have seen a lady before, still, don't talk about any exchange of $ for services with her as it is always possible that she can be working for them if she got b-sted earlier and wants to make a deal. This is definitely very possible.

Re: the 'notice to appear' I believe they did that for a homicide detective (their own!) when he got b-sted during a reverse operation. But I guess you'd have to be 'their own' to get this privilege! Isn't that something!

I guess I never understood that. How can a detective fall for the okie dokie! LOL

[QUOTE=Dare Devil07]There is no law that requires Uncle Leo to give you a notice to appear. That is purely their call. If you are a local resident and have no prior record, they can issue a notice to appear for minor misdemeanors. But that is CAN, not MUST.

If you find yourself in a jam remember, be respectful, don't resist and DON'T TALK. Don't deny, don't lie, don't try to explain. Simply don't talk, with one exception. Recent Supreme court rulings puts the burden on you to affirmatively assert your rights to remain silent. So the only thing you should say to the police, after giving them your identification, if you are being arrested is "I am asserting my right to remain silent and I request to speak to an attorney. "

I am an attorney and I have seen hundreds of guys over the years doing the walk of shame in J-1 court after being arrested the night before.

Be safe. Be smart[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dare Devil07]There is no law that requires Uncle Leo to give you a notice to appear. That is purely their call. If you are a local resident and have no prior record, they can issue a notice to appear for minor misdemeanors. But that is CAN, not MUST.

If you find yourself in a jam remember, be respectful, don't resist and DON'T TALK. Don't deny, don't lie, don't try to explain. Simply don't talk, with one exception. Recent Supreme court rulings puts the burden on you to affirmatively assert your rights to remain silent. So the only thing you should say to the police, after giving them your identification, if you are being arrested is "I am asserting my right to remain silent and I request to speak to an attorney. "

I am an attorney and I have seen hundreds of guys over the years doing the walk of shame in J-1 court after being arrested the night before.

Be safe. Be smart[/QUOTE]What he said.

[QUOTE=Dare Devil07]There is no law that requires Uncle Leo to give you a notice to appear. That is purely their call. If you are a local resident and have no prior record, they can issue a notice to appear for minor misdemeanors. But that is CAN, not MUST.

If you find yourself in a jam remember, be respectful, don't resist and DON'T TALK. Don't deny, don't lie, don't try to explain. Simply don't talk, with one exception. Recent Supreme court rulings puts the burden on you to affirmatively assert your rights to remain silent. So the only thing you should say to the police, after giving them your identification, if you are being arrested is "I am asserting my right to remain silent and I request to speak to an attorney. "

I am an attorney and I have seen hundreds of guys over the years doing the walk of shame in J-1 court after being arrested the night before.

Be safe. Be smart[/QUOTE]


There are numerous "Old Wives Tales" out there about providers, AMPs and what LEO can and can not do. Please furnish your opinion on some of these and help those of us avoid problems.

1-It does not seem that any defense attorneys are willing to use entrapment by LEO as a defense. Why? Is it because the Judge is going to believe the noble LEO and not the provider, no matter how honest she is being?

2-If the undercover officer initially reaches over and rubs the providers butt or breasts can he still arrest her if she touches his privates? Is this just another case where the Judge is not going to believe the provider. From a layman's standpoint this certainly seems like entrapment.

3-Should some MP have hidden cameras and can prove the undercover officer put the girls hand on his privates before she provided the HEing, can the tape be used and how?

4-What can the public do about all the money the undercover officers spend out of city funds to pay for massages? I for one am not interested in paying for LEO to get massages and harrass the providers.

5-Other than keeping our mouths completely shut when approached by LEO,
do you have any other suggestions to help all of us that read the board.

Thank you for your time and explanations. If you would like to send me a PM and identify yourself I will be glad to give your information to any of the mongers that may need you services and I will be glad to act as a referral service for you. There are too many attorneys out there that are really not up on this type of criminal law. They may know the basics but this is a specialized area of law and the nuts and bolts of this are not generally known.
JF

The biggest thing to remember is that Florida does NOT have any entrapment laws. Old wives tale.

Not an attorney. But I did stay at a holiday inn express last night. LOL

[QUOTE=Jax Fun]There are numerous "Old Wives Tales" out there about providers, AMPs and what LEO can and can not do. Please furnish your opinion on some of these and help those of us avoid problems.

1-It does not seem that any defense attorneys are willing to use entrapment by LEO as a defense. Why? Is it because the Judge is going to believe the noble LEO and not the provider, no matter how honest she is being?

2-If the undercover officer initially reaches over and rubs the providers butt or breasts can he still arrest her if she touches his privates? Is this just another case where the Judge is not going to believe the provider. From a layman's standpoint this certainly seems like entrapment.

3-Should some MP have hidden cameras and can prove the undercover officer put the girls hand on his privates before she provided the HEing, can the tape be used and how?

4-What can the public do about all the money the undercover officers spend out of city funds to pay for massages? I for one am not interested in paying for LEO to get massages and harrass the providers.

5-Other than keeping our mouths completely shut when approached by LEO,

Do you have any other suggestions to help all of us that read the board.

Thank you for your time and explanations. If you would like to send me a PM and identify yourself I will be glad to give your information to any of the mongers that may need you services and I will be glad to act as a referral service for you. There are too many attorneys out there that are really not up on this type of criminal law. They may know the basics but this is a specialized area of law and the nuts and bolts of this are not generally known.

JF[/QUOTE]

Guys,

Can you help me find a upscale escort in jax! I've been trying to see Racheal from ecs.com but haven't been able to hook up with here yet. Was suppose to this weekend after several emails back and forth but I think she had to go out of town. I like black white Latin it doesn't matter as long as she is upscale young and clean. I'm in Tampa during the week and in jax just on the weekends. If you guys get to Tampa hit me up and I'll pass on a few jewels to you but I'm struggling finding upscale providers here and jax. I plan on hitting up a few strip clubs tonight and will report back tomorrow on my findings.

Thanks for any help yall can give.

Just wondering if anyone here has a reference on her.

Thanks Jeff

[QUOTE=Justaprovider]The biggest thing to remember is that Florida does NOT have any entrapment laws. Old wives tale.[/QUOTE]This is absolutely true. The sad reality is that the police can lie and get away with it most of the time. They do not have to identify themselves as police until they are ready to arrest you. Typically, they cannot and will not expose themselves to you (or a provider), but if you do it they can get you for lewdness or offering for lewdness.

The good news is that they SHOULD be pretty easy to spot.

They will want to have the "what do I (you) get for my money" conversation. A LEO posing as a SW won't get in the car (or go anywhere) without talking about price. If she gets in the car and asks you to "pull it out" first to prove you aren't LEO, they have you on lewdness.

"Entrapment" means they made you do something you had no intention of doing. If an undercover SW gets in your car after you offer her a ride, reaches over and pulls out the little thinker, then tries to arrest you for lewdness, that would still be entrapment. (and battery on you).

If you get in a jam, there is nothing that requires you to plea immediately. Typically, you will be offered an adjudication and time served or maybe a withhold, but if you plea not guilty and bond out, you may be able to work out a better deal. Anyone who needs help or has questions can PM me and I'll give you a call.

[QUOTE=Iluv Bigboobs]Just wondering if anyone here has a reference on her.
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Check the Tampa Board. I seem to recall there was some drama associated with her. But I could be wrong...

[QUOTE=Drew Park]Check the Tampa Board. I seem to recall there was some drama associated with her. But I could be wrong...[/QUOTE]I e mailed back n forth and was about to set something up---however--searched and only found 2 reviews outside her website and one was poor.

I miss Rosa/ 30 min with Hannah is wonderful but not long enough and I can't drop 300 every time I need.

Wish I could find a private massage with benefits for regular visits.

Perhaps I should try Tee again. hmmmmmm

[QUOTE=Justaprovider]The biggest thing to remember is that Florida does NOT have any entrapment laws. Old wives tale.

Not an attorney. But I did stay at a holiday inn express last night. LOL[/QUOTE]

Here’s the deal on entrapment.

Firemen are supposed to put fires out. They are not supposed to set fires to get credit for putting them out. Police are supposed to arrest people who commit crimes, not cause crime by inducing people to commit them so they can arrest them for it.

Entrapment happens when a person is on a legal path and undercover approaches them and talks them into doing something wrong. This is the situation where the defendant is let go.

It should be obvious that entrapment is problematic for us. We advertise P4P on the internet, we search out P4P ads and we answer them and some of us stop at streetwalkers in a streetwalker area. We do this on our own. We show our true colors on our own. There is no LE there trying to get us to do anything at this point.

So when the other side happens to be undercover we can be set up and nabbed. It is perfectly legal for undercover to play ball with us to catch us doing what we set out to do on your own. This is not entrapment.

In other words, it is okay for undercover to give us the rope to hang ourselves as long as we started down that path on your own without their help or encouragement.

Once we show our true colors we become fair game for undercover.

That's why I said (from the man's perspective), ask the lady to get into her panties and a bra or bikini and give you a body rub. 99.9%, if she is LEO's sister, I can promise you, she won't do it. She may have it on the bed or hanging up on a hanger telling you that she will put it on but b/4 she does anything, she is going to try to make you say something to jam yourself 1st. Remember, once you feel comfortable, if she seems legit, you can always change the course of the session but don't be too in a hurry to see what's on the dinner menu.

Now for you ladies, its kind of difficult because, they (LEO'S bro) can get in the shower w/ u, let you touch them (lie and say you didn't), get very butt-naked with you and get you to say something stupid. Some girls won't even acknowledge the $ and will go so far into the session till LEO's bro does enough that will make what he's doing illegal like allowing him to dine at the YMCA or putting his finger somewhere where its very dark and then asking him how does that feel and getting him to say it out loud so it can be put on the recording device. When the judge hears him say this or that was nice (in explicit terms), he'd have a hard time explaining this one! Yes judge, I did finger her! You must make sure he says something explicit not in coded words or something that can be taken out of context.

Now, some of you ladies will say, "I am not letting one do that to me for free!" Alright, you have one of 2 choices. Either forget about the $ for now; for a brief moment, until you figure out his status and not go downtown or be aggressive trying to get the $ too fast and go downtown and having to pay a lawyer thousands to represent you.

So in other words, you may loose 100 or whatever your rate is for allowing someone a brief freebie (if he desires to leave before the actual session) or try to get your $ too fast and they trip you up and you end up going downtown and have to pay many times that 100 to get out of the jam- Your choice!

I knew someone that wouldn't mention the $ but did whatever the deed was then ask for her donation. It kept her out of trouble- trust me. They may not pay but you didn't go downtown either. If they try to leave without donating and you were very good at what you do, you won't see that one again until he donates his gift.

I can tell you by experience, the advice I gave worked for me so many times that I can probably write a book or manual on it. With a combination of instincts and understanding what is legal and illegal, I have walked away from them so many times, its not funny. The only thing is, they can lie, have you taken downtown and cause you much grief that way. You will still have to get a lawyer and pay a lot to clear your name. This is the downside to it. When I say lie, they can say that you whispered to the undercover for the illegal act- of course, they know all all along that you will get off but they also know, you will be paying a lot of $ for representation!

4'11? D.JD.

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[QUOTE=Jax411]But stewie, even though charges were dropped, were they still legally allowed to post your pix?[/QUOTE]My lawyer said yes because they have that little print that says the people on this page have not been found guilty or something like that. Still pretty shady. Can cost someone their lively hood and a whole lot more.

Another interesting fact is that you can NOT bond out on a soliciting charge. You must wait to see a judge. So in my case that meant spending the night.

[QUOTE=Kfenway]4'11? D.JD.

[url]http://www.escorts.com/member/2711561/cierraspecial[/url][/QUOTE]She wont do the Sicily, very adamant about that. Fake boobs(duh). High maintenance and too high on herself. She apparently doesnt know that her shit stinks like the rest of us. Hangs out with Gravity1986 (who does do the Sicily).