Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

WhereDreamsGo makes a good point about taking reviews with a grain of salt in case a particular reviewer has a beef with a provider, but sometimes when reviews are mixed and I can't decide which reviews to trust, I'll get the opinion of a couple trusted providers. Sure, these women are business rivals, but the more professional ones understand that for the hobby to work, they need to cooperate to a certain degree to verify clients for one another and to exchange other useful information. Plus they know that speaking negatively about other providers all the time only makes them look petty, so they refrain from talking badly about other women unless they really have to. Yet, the opinions that I've heard about Crissee from other providers were all negative. She's one of the few providers I know of that other providers have told me that they flat out hate. I can only think of 2 others (Sinful Dreams and Petra) who were as polarizing as Crissee, but the difference is that both of them seemed to have longer periods of good reviews before hobbyists began finding fault with them, and they are out of the business at this point, instead of keeping at it for a decade or more once their services took a nose dive and they failed to get them back up to snuff.

[QUOTE=AdamP469;4922910]WhereDreamsGo makes a good point about taking reviews with a grain of salt in case a particular reviewer has a beef with a provider, but sometimes when reviews are mixed and I can't decide which reviews to trust, I'll get the opinion of a couple trusted providers. Sure, these women are business rivals, but the more professional ones understand that for the hobby to work, they need to cooperate to a certain degree to verify clients for one another and to exchange other useful information. Plus they know that speaking negatively about other providers all the time only makes them look petty, so they refrain from talking badly about other women unless they really have to. Yet, the opinions that I've heard about Crissee from other providers were all negative. She's one of the few providers I know of that other providers have told me that they flat out hate. I can only think of 2 others (Sinful Dreams and Petra) who were as polarizing as Crissee, but the difference is that both of them seemed to have longer periods of good reviews before hobbyists began finding fault with them, and they are out of the business at this point, instead of keeping at it for a decade or more once their services took a nose dive and they failed to get them back up to snuff.[/QUOTE]Saw her twice back 4 or 5 years ago. First time was outstanding and warranted a second visit. The second visit, she fell asleep with my cock in her mouth. She would doze and wake up and doze again. She never got a third visit.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;4922842]Feel strange coming to the defense of Ms. Crissee, since I don't really know her and don't have any plans to see her. She was always like number five or six on my options and I would sometimes take the plunge on a bad day. But I would just point out that the person primarily providing info on her sure seems to know A LOT about her and details of her long history of prior business approaches, and if you check out his posting history, she seems to be his primary topic of conversation for years. So, maybe he is a guy she ratted out or someone who has a lot of history otherwise with her. Quite motivated, but in the sort of way that always makes me suspicious.[/QUOTE]The few times I that I saw her years ago, her skills were great and never treated me wrong. But again as I stated her reviews in the past correspond with severity of her habit. Would I see her again, probably not. Her posted ads are not the same as previous ones and tone is different, so spidey senses are telling me no way.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;4922842]Feel strange coming to the defense of Ms. Crissee, since I don't really know her and don't have any plans to see her. She was always like number five or six on my options and I would sometimes take the plunge on a bad day. But I would just point out that the person primarily providing info on her sure seems to know A LOT about her and details of her long history of prior business approaches, and if you check out his posting history, she seems to be his primary topic of conversation for years. So, maybe he is a guy she ratted out or someone who has a lot of history otherwise with her. Quite motivated, but in the sort of way that always makes me suspicious.[/QUOTE]Crissee is a train wreck now and about 9-10 years ago was worth the price of admission. A Heroin addiction taken a toll on her. She is positive, a junkie, a thief, a robber, a pimp (pimped her sister out), a drug dealers, a scammer, several LEO's side piece and a snitch. She used to be a looker and was a legit but those days are over. I am surprised her addiction has not caught up with her and / or someone she done wrong hasn't done her in.

I know the pickings are slim and not what they used to be around Cincy but this is someone to be avoided.

Be safe all and stay healthy.

Hendo.

[QUOTE=BigDickBuldge;4922447]So I wonder what happen to the other sister of the girl that passed away on Elberon? Adriana I think man she had a great mouth on her she could work it best BBBJ in the town. And for the fifty she swallowed my load.[/QUOTE]You have posted this on three threads! Why did you post this on the escort thread they are SWs! If you are that hard up go camp out on Elberon and catch up with one of them. You seriously way overpaid for swallow. One monger awhile posted he went around the world for 25 with the tall blond sister. Yes there are more sisters that walk and others that drop by their place to pick up meds. Do not contact me for info you only have 4 posts.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;4922842]Feel strange coming to the defense of Ms. Crissee, since I don't really know her and don't have any plans to see her. She was always like number five or six on my options and I would sometimes take the plunge on a bad day. But I would just point out that the person primarily providing info on her sure seems to know A LOT about her and details of her long history of prior business approaches, and if you check out his posting history, she seems to be his primary topic of conversation for years. So, maybe he is a guy she ratted out or someone who has a lot of history otherwise with her. Quite motivated, but in the sort of way that always makes me suspicious.[/QUOTE]I am a long standing family friend of Crissee and her family and I have never hid that fact and in fact have posted that knowledge and I am privy to a lot of inside information from her very lips. Her ex husband is a personal friend of mine, I know her sister and her mother. I know what she has done to people she does not like. My response to your questioning the warnings about her is do your own research, talk to people in the know and form your own opinions,. Yes I know alot and yes I post about her whenever her name comes up, but wouldn't you? isn't that what this forum is for?

Look at the other responses about her in this thread, very few that really know her have anything positive to say about her. forget all the stuff I have said and do your own research. Most of the information I post about her is info to establish my credibility, and is info I assume other mongers will check out before they make an appointment. But when i say check i don't mean ask her, I mean check it out from other sources.

If I had the kind of inside information on other providers and felt the warnings were needed I would warn about them as well. In the end if people are more motivated about her pussy than their safety then I cannot help them.

I am trying to help the new people that can fall prey to her and have their lives ruined.

Make your own decisions but don't judge me for knowing more than you do.

In the end I have done my job when I warn you, what you do with the information and what decisions you make are up to you

It is not our job to be a shill for escorts, to give them reviews they don't earn or deserve, to hide negative information about them. Our job as mongers is to protect other mongers. To tell the truth.

It is the whole purpose of this site.

Stay safe guys.

Petra is before my time and I saw Sinful a handful of times and had no issues with her. Gave a hell of a nuru, though - my favorite to this day.

What were the negative reviews on these two?

[QUOTE=AdamP469;4922910]WhereDreamsGo makes a good point about taking reviews with a grain of salt in case a particular reviewer has a beef with a provider, but sometimes when reviews are mixed and I can't decide which reviews to trust, I'll get the opinion of a couple trusted providers. Sure, these women are business rivals, but the more professional ones understand that for the hobby to work, they need to cooperate to a certain degree to verify clients for one another and to exchange other useful information. Plus they know that speaking negatively about other providers all the time only makes them look petty, so they refrain from talking badly about other women unless they really have to. Yet, the opinions that I've heard about Crissee from other providers were all negative. She's one of the few providers I know of that other providers have told me that they flat out hate. I can only think of 2 others (Sinful Dreams and Petra) who were as polarizing as Crissee, but the difference is that both of them seemed to have longer periods of good reviews before hobbyists began finding fault with them, and they are out of the business at this point, instead of keeping at it for a decade or more once their services took a nose dive and they failed to get them back up to snuff.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JLZ61;4923837]Petra is before my time and I saw Sinful a handful of times and had no issues with her. Gave a hell of a nuru, though - my favorite to this day.

What were the negative reviews on these two?[/QUOTE]Given their retirements I'm surprised anybody is curious, but since you asked, with Sinful, it was unsolicited contacts. In my case, any time I left a negative review, mostly on now defunct sites like the old "race car" site, aNotheR site, but also that oThER site that still around, I would have PMs from her saying she was sorry provider X let me down, and suggesting a visit with her to cheer me up. I got off easy because she didn't have my phone number, but I believe the rumor was that other hobbyists were not so lucky. And then there were rumors of requests for help or for pity appointments. Instead, with Petra, the two visits I had with her were exciting and fun, but shortly before she retired, there were disputes with hobbyists, and also another provider or two, that led to her blowing up people's phones with belligerent text tirades. Things calmed down after a while, and on the rare occasions when she would post an ad, there were no further rumors of tantrums, but not long after that she dropped off the radar.

Thanks for the response. Now that you mention it, I do remember Ally texting me out of the blue some time back more than a year, if not two, since I had last seen her about her getting some kind of disease and asking for money to help out. I thought it was kinda odd and didn't reply. In fact, IIRC, I posted something here to that end.

Bummed I missed Petra in her better days. Sounds like she was amazing!

[QUOTE=AdamP469;4924159]Given their retirements I'm surprised anybody is curious, but since you asked, with Sinful, it was unsolicited contacts. In my case, any time I left a negative review, mostly on now defunct sites like the old "race car" site, aNotheR site, but also that oThER site that still around, I would have PMs from her saying she was sorry provider X let me down, and suggesting a visit with her to cheer me up. I got off easy because she didn't have my phone number, but I believe the rumor was that other hobbyists were not so lucky. And then there were rumors of requests for help or for pity appointments. Instead, with Petra, the two visits I had with her were exciting and fun, but shortly before she retired, there were disputes with hobbyists, and also another provider or two, that led to her blowing up people's phones with belligerent text tirades. Things calmed down after a while, and on the rare occasions when she would post an ad, there were no further rumors of tantrums, but not long after that she dropped off the radar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JLZ61;4925572]Thanks for the response. Now that you mention it, I do remember Ally texting me out of the blue some time back more than a year, if not two, since I had last seen her about her getting some kind of disease and asking for money to help out. I thought it was kinda odd and didn't reply. In fact, IIRC, I posted something here to that end.

Bummed I missed Petra in her better days. Sounds like she was amazing![/QUOTE]Petra was always fun when she was on the east side. Back then she was thin an I always enjoyed our time. A couple years ago she tried a comeback in the northern Ky area where se retired from. Made a trip to see her an it wasn't the old Petra or Pet she was lot larger an a total waste of time an money. She wasn't around long.

[QUOTE=JLZ61;4925572]Thanks for the response. Now that you mention it, I do remember Ally texting me out of the blue some time back more than a year, if not two, since I had last seen her about her getting some kind of disease and asking for money to help out. I thought it was kinda odd and didn't reply. In fact, IIRC, I posted something here to that end.

Bummed I missed Petra in her better days. Sounds like she was amazing![/QUOTE]I remember receiving several messages like that many years ago from Ally.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;4922990]You have posted this on three threads! Why did you post this on the escort thread they are SWs! If you are that hard up go camp out on Elberon and catch up with one of them. You seriously way overpaid for swallow. One monger awhile posted he went around the world for 25 with the tall blond sister. Yes there are more sisters that walk and others that drop by their place to pick up meds. Do not contact me for info you only have 4 posts.[/QUOTE]I was at the moment looking for her and only speaking about a good time with her. You sound like I pushed a button if so I apology deeply but the number of times I post someone shouldn't o fend you bud I enjoyed her and for you to say I payed too much why are you so personal and openiated with what I got going on buddy.

[QUOTE=BigDickBuldge;4925824]I was at the moment looking for her and only speaking about a good time with her. You sound like I pushed a button if so I apology deeply but the number of times I post someone shouldn't o fend you bud I enjoyed her and for you to say I payed too much why are you so personal and openiated with what I got going on buddy.[/QUOTE]If you had something special going on you wouldn't be asking us where to find her on three different threads! She must have rocked your world with the little twisting maneuver she does as well as the slurping. Yes you overpaid. There are others that are better.

It's not about the person or activity, it's about the fact you wasted band width for the same request on three different threads! Most of us read all the threads. The only thread you needed was the SW thread or whatever happened to this one thread. Geez f at #&ing newbies.

[QUOTE=HendoKy;4927035]Looking for a provider who's pic's are real, isn't geeked out of their minds on drugs, has a full set of teeth, doesn't have a pimp lurking, has no facial tattoos, who doesn't upscale, doesn't bait and switch, doesn't ghost you, doesn't live in a barn, doesn't smell like they live in a barn, that doesn't blow up your burner phone for money or rides, isn't as wide as they are tall, doesn't have back and side boobs, who looks like they have seen the sun this year, not covered in sores, provides service asked for, isn't a dead fish, doesn't smell like fish, isn't 40 looking like 60, has a grooming standard, doesn't have dirty feet, doesn't have an ass that looks like chewed up bubble gum, doesn't think they are queen of the world, doesn't clock watch, won't talk your erection away and accepts the donation when services are done. Anyone? Seriously, anyone?[/QUOTE]While I agree with the sentiment here, and I agree with the suggestion offered in the ISO thread, which was Molly Daniels, the solution to the criticisms in the above tirade is simple enough. One just has to be willing and able to explore another market or a higher level in the local one. Touring providers could be another solution, again, if you are willing and able to get involved with them.

[QUOTE=AdamP469;4930547]While I agree with the sentiment here, and I agree with the suggestion offered in the ISO thread, which was Molly Daniels, the solution to the criticisms in the above tirade is simple enough. One just has to be willing and able to explore another market or a higher level in the local one. Touring providers could be another solution, again, if you are willing and able to get involved with them.[/QUOTE]I did a quick click to see what the history of the poster looked like, and didn't dig deep. But it's pretty clear that he's playing in the shallow, polluted waters of listcrawler, etc. Good luck with that. Everything he's looking for exists, but not at the bottom feeder level.

Oh. And Molly Daniels won't have anything to do with this guy. I have a hard time believing he's going to be able to provide all she wants for screening.

XOC is pretty good, but if you aren't in already, you can't get in.