"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=ShawnTpc;6426613][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e6e35e41-97b0-4bdf-9519-b5a06e7ffeab[/URL]

Nice girl. She was able to host, which was also a plus. Donation was $400 for BBBJ w / BBFSCIP. Very quick and easy to setup. We hung out for an hour or so at her place before migrating to her bed. She started with BBBJ then transitioned into BBFS until I finished. Not a clock watcher at all, and offered multiple pops but I had a function early the next morning and had to leave. Total time her at her place was 2.5 hrs. Would repeat for the chill vibe and painless experience.[/QUOTE]600 for an over 30 girl. Hate to say it, you over paid, especially for this part of the world.

[QUOTE=ShawnTpc;6426613][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e6e35e41-97b0-4bdf-9519-b5a06e7ffeab[/URL]

Nice girl. She was able to host, which was also a plus. Donation was $400 for BBBJ w / BBFSCIP. Very quick and easy to setup. We hung out for an hour or so at her place before migrating to her bed. She started with BBBJ then transitioned into BBFS until I finished. Not a clock watcher at all, and offered multiple pops but I had a function early the next morning and had to leave. Total time her at her place was 2.5 hrs. Would repeat for the chill vibe and painless experience.[/QUOTE]Saw NattyNat a few times last year for 300, and exactly as you described.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6426491]I basically agree, and most of the threesomes I've done with hookers / escorts / sb's have been underwhelming, or just plain bad. Somehow when there is two of them, they just feel more empowered to cheat or steal or scam.

I did get together with two girls from Seeking, but I had already met one of them first, and then had her gf join in, and that went pretty well....not amazing, but fun and worth the $550, at least one time.

Still though, it is not very intimate and I would probably have more fun with each of them, one by one. It's just a different dynamic. And of course I certainly would suggest every guy have at least one or two threesomes, but turns out they are highly overrated, at least most of the time. That's not to say that they can't be very hot, but it's just much less likely than a one-on-one session.[/QUOTE]I would never discourage a threesome, they can be fun, but they should be set up on the SDs terms and not the SBs. When girls post as a team, they have already defined the dynamic and terms for the SD, and that is a disadvantageous spot to be in, even when initial intent isn't particularly nefarious.

This is one reason I used the Rob Lowe example. Those girls that rinsed him and got him in trouble probably didn't go out that night with intentions of doing that, but the additional complexity burden of juggling two bat shit crazy girls instead of one creates more opportunity for things to go wrong for daddy. Sooner or later any man has to get up to take a piss or shower, and history has shown that two hot girls left in a room unsupervised very rarely break out a Scrabble board to innocently pass the time.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6426491]I basically agree, and most of the threesomes I've done with hookers / escorts / sb's have been underwhelming, or just plain bad. Somehow when there is two of them, they just feel more empowered to cheat or steal or scam.

I did get together with two girls from Seeking, but I had already met one of them first, and then had her gf join in, and that went pretty well....not amazing, but fun and worth the $550, at least one time.

Still though, it is not very intimate and I would probably have more fun with each of them, one by one. It's just a different dynamic. And of course I certainly would suggest every guy have at least one or two threesomes, but turns out they are highly overrated, at least most of the time. That's not to say that they can't be very hot, but it's just much less likely than a one-on-one session.[/QUOTE]You mean threesomes aren't like they are portrayed in a porn video? 😁 I've actually never had one and I need to do one eventually. Sounds to me like they need to be organic, I. E. You know one girl who invites another girl to join at a later date.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6427764]You mean threesomes aren't like they are portrayed in a porn video? 😁 I've actually never had one and I need to do one eventually. Sounds to me like they need to be organic, I. E. You know one girl who invites another girl to join at a later date.[/QUOTE]What I've learned re: the best approach:

Start with a primary girl with which you already have a purely fun sexual relationship (no emotional connection either way), that is bi or bi-curious and genuinely wants sex with another girl (aside from just the thrill of a new experience or ticking a bucket-list item off the list). It should be someone expendable because a threesome is a weird dynamic and you never know what will happen afterwards. She might regret doing it and never speak to you again, etc. For the secondary girl find one you both want sex with but that neither of you know before hand. It's fine to initiate the idea that you want to try but try to set a subtle spark to see if the fire starts, don't set out with a goal of getting her to comply, ideally because aspects of the whole chemistry that would be too complex to explain here will simply fall into line better if it is as much her idea as yours. Basically the idea there is you don't ever want her to say "well I only did it because you wanted me to". The more she genuinely wants it, the easier it will be to find the right secondary girl (which may or may not prove challenging even when other factors are in the right place); be patient in finding the right mix for maximum ongoing fun, sometimes a plan of this nature doesn't come together as quickly as you want it to and in general, it's usually more work than lining up a date with a single SB.

[QUOTE=OliverNP;6427932]What I've learned re: the best approach:

Start with a primary girl with which you already have a purely fun sexual relationship (no emotional connection either way), that is bi or bi-curious and genuinely wants sex with another girl (aside from just the thrill of a new experience or ticking a bucket-list item off the list). It should be someone expendable because a threesome is a weird dynamic and you never know what will happen afterwards. She might regret doing it and never speak to you again, etc. For the secondary girl find one you both want sex with but that neither of you know before hand. It's fine to initiate the idea that you want to try but try to set a subtle spark to see if the fire starts, don't set out with a goal of getting her to comply, ideally because aspects of the whole chemistry that would be too complex to explain here will simply fall into line better if it is as much her idea as yours. Basically the idea there is you don't ever want her to say "well I only did it because you wanted me to". The more she genuinely wants it, the easier it will be to find the right secondary girl (which may or may not prove challenging even when other factors are in the right place); be patient in finding the right mix for maximum ongoing fun, sometimes a plan of this nature doesn't come together as quickly as you want it to and in general, it's usually more work than lining up a date with a single SB.[/QUOTE]Quite some time ago, before the pandemic, a veteran here (could have been F Scott in Chicago) described setting up a [URL]seeking.com[/URL] profile specifically to troll for girls who wanted to do 3-somes. He said he was bombarded w / messages. I think that when it came down to it, though, he was unsuccessful in closing one.

Tried to send me a funky hyperlink to her pictures via text, I of course did not click on them. Scammer for sure, be careful.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fba6fba2-c251-4950-8130-2d6de47e9be8[/URL]

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6427512]600 for an over 30 girl. Hate to say it, you over paid, especially for this part of the world.

Saw NattyNat a few times last year for 300, and exactly as you described.[/QUOTE]I kept getting quoted $5-600 so I was starting to think it was normal. The rest wouldn't entertain me at all, or responded so late my trip was almost over. I had put some cash away for my "sunny day fund", and I intended to spend it. That woman also had the best throat I've ever been in, and I've globetrotted at least once a year testing waters LOL. Fair and accurate assessment though. Going to see how much for neck only next time LOL.

[QUOTE=ShawnTpc;6428081]I kept getting quoted $5-600 so I was starting to think it was normal. The rest wouldn't entertain me at all, or responded so late my trip was almost over. I had put some cash away for my "sunny day fund", and I intended to spend it. That woman also had the best throat I've ever been in, and I've globetrotted at least once a year testing waters LOL. Fair and accurate assessment though. Going to see how much for neck only next time LOL.[/QUOTE]When you guys negotiate these prices upfront (before meeting), do you also stipulate it must be BBFS? And if so, how do you approach the subject via text?

This thread has some nationwide readership, so past recommendations on paying for [URL]seeking.com[/URL] w / o giving up personal info may not have been too useful (IDK your local grocery stores). I have a couple of OneVanilla prepaid debit cards stashed for my next two membership months, but nothing after that. I cannot find those cards anymore. I have started to scout the cards that are available in my 'hood. The descriptions on here are always faulty, so I just snapped a couple of pics. Does anyone know that either of these two do or don't work?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6427965]Quite some time ago, before the pandemic, a veteran here (could have been F Scott in Chicago) described setting up a [URL]seeking.com[/URL] profile specifically to troll for girls who wanted to do 3-somes. He said he was bombarded w / messages. I think that when it came down to it, though, he was unsuccessful in closing one.[/QUOTE]As counterintuitive as it may seem, outright advertising for it might actually work against finding a truly worthwhile threesome. There are of course hookers that do two girl shows or whatever, but as someone pointed out earlier, that's not the real experience most of us would want.

At the same time, an astounding number of the SBs I've known are either bi-curious or have played around with other girls before, and are open to a situation like this when the conditions are right, which is why I think it's better to identify those girls and foster the situation rather that advertise for it.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6428265]When you guys negotiate these prices upfront (before meeting), do you also stipulate it must be BBFS? And if so, how do you approach the subject via text?[/QUOTE]So for sugars I have GFE as my expectation. I bring it up that I prefer to go without a cover, and show my paperwork is up to date and clean. That has normally worked for me with women I meet for hooking up. If I feel the o.

Scammer, blocked me and said goodbye after I told her I don't send money digitally, cash in person. She blocked before I could get her link to the profile.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6428265]When you guys negotiate these prices upfront (before meeting), do you also stipulate it must be BBFS? And if so, how do you approach the subject via text?[/QUOTE]Obviously, I don't lead with this, but I work in a question asking them if they use birth control. They catch the hint, it'd be hard not to.

[QUOTE=SoonerFan72;6429097]Scammer, blocked me and said goodbye after I told her I don't send money digitally, cash in person. She blocked before I could get her link to the profile.[/QUOTE]I had the same experience, but I got her link first:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/974149ee-dca3-48db-83c1-f6d346cd9cf3[/URL]

[QUOTE=OliverNP;6428685]As counterintuitive as it may seem, outright advertising for it might actually work against finding a truly worthwhile threesome. There are of course hookers that do two girl shows or whatever, but as someone pointed out earlier, that's not the real experience most of us would want.

At the same time, an astounding number of the SBs I've known are either bi-curious or have played around with other girls before, and are open to a situation like this when the conditions are right, which is why I think it's better to identify those girls and foster the situation rather that advertise for it.[/QUOTE]I just get any prepaid visa / mc at the grocery store and load $200 paid with cash. Usually there's a $5. 95 fee on top of that. Then you register the card online to setup a phony name and address and use that for online purchases.