Arrangement Reports

[QUOTE=PauFord;6252728]I don't think its possible for you to be more off base.[/QUOTE]Exactly Pau Ford!! Smdh on sum of these questions.

[QUOTE=PauFord;6252728]I don't think its possible for you to be more off base.[/QUOTE]So maybe more like a couple thousand a month.?

I read a few reported on redd it about exclusive arrangements. But they are talking like 10 k a month or more. No way I'm doing that.

[QUOTE=GeneralObvious;6251558]Look on Bedpage. Write up your own ad. If you have some writing skills, use them to be specific about what you want. Serial daters flush many sites looking for that one dumb guy who will do anything. It's the dating world's version of phishing.

I tried Backpage, now Bedpage. Basically said, looking for "fun and a connection. " At the time, my kids were living at home, so I preferred someone who could accommodate our activities. I met a youngish Korean, and a Latina. Both were great, and lots of fun. If you want an arrangement, let them come to you.[/QUOTE]That's an interesting advice and I am going to try this. I stopped responding to this person anyways. I am getting back to this game after almost 2 1/2 years and things have certainly changed a lot. I was able to score someone real in a month around 2018 when I was in it. Now, I only come across following types.

1 - Real but say they don't want to go physical. There are so many platonic but don't say it in their profile that they are. There were 2-3 that met for coffee and also said they can have great conversation and good time. Haha. I have my female friends who can do that way better than you dumb heads.

2 - some real & pros and picture seller. They start by sharing snapchat and take you into purchasing. Anyone can find the star of their interest for free on internet.

3 - Pros that look ugly. They may not be getting it anyways in the pro circles so try this route.

Its really a slow run on SA as well as SDM.

[QUOTE=Witness2002;6252772]So maybe more like a couple thousand a month.?

I read a few reported on redd it about exclusive arrangements. But they are talking like 10 k a month or more. No way I'm doing that.[/QUOTE]You don't have to be a 'lifestyle' daddy in one of those arrangements for it to add up. There's plenty of data points already in the thread. Figure:

$100 is the basic price of admission to get on the site and send messages, maybe a little less with their frequent discounts.

$300 to 500 per meet in this market when you finally weed out fakes, scammers, etc. Yes, you might get lower if you really click with a girl and repeat frequently, but opening quotes lower than that these days come with some kind of risk. You say you expect 'a number of meetups' per month, so multiply as needed.

A hotel room for each meetup. Obviously a big range, but somewhere between $75 and 200 is realistic in the Chicago area. You will find some girls that will host, but they're either pros or you don't know what you're walking into from a cleanliness and safety perspective. Again, multiply by number of meets.

You may need a few more bucks for meet and greets, usually not more than coffee or quick drinks. If you feel the need to wine and dine with high end dinners, etc then of course add that in.

Many of us aren't big on random extra gifting, but if your arrangement takes you down that road, who knows?

It's not a cheap game, but all that being said, with a little luck you can end up with much better quality experiences than you do in other hobby channels.

[QUOTE=Witness2002;6252700]Never tried SA but does anyone know what the potential costs can amount to? Sounds like one can strike gold and potentially get a number of meet ups for a couple hundred a month; and no clock. ?[/QUOTE]Just picking up a girl at a bar would probably cost you $200 haha.

[QUOTE=FafaFooey;6253200]You don't have to be a 'lifestyle' daddy in one of those arrangements for it to add up. There's plenty of data points already in the thread. Figure:

$100 is the basic price of admission to get on the site and send messages, maybe a little less with their frequent discounts.

$300 to 500 per meet in this market when you finally weed out fakes, scammers, etc. Yes, you might get lower if you really click with a girl and repeat frequently, but opening quotes lower than that these days come with some kind of risk. You say you expect 'a number of meetups' per month, so multiply as needed.

A hotel room for each meetup. Obviously a big range, but somewhere between $75 and 200 is realistic in the Chicago area. You will find some girls that will host, but they're either pros or you don't know what you're walking into from a cleanliness and safety perspective. Again, multiply by number of meets.

You may need a few more bucks for meet and greets, usually not more than coffee or quick drinks. If you feel the need to wine and dine with high end dinners, etc then of course add that in..[/QUOTE]All of that and don't forget you could also have a future stalker on your hands. I was on SB for a while, chatted with a few. Had some give me a $300 per meet, but had to rent the room, etc. Most though wanted at least $500-600 per meet. Had one tell me $1 k a month plus an apartment I could share with her. And all of that is after to keep dropping cash for SB credits you need after wasting so many on bot accounts. I no longer bother with SB anymore. More trouble than it's worth.

[QUOTE=DynoJr;6253364]Just picking up a girl at a bar would probably cost you $200 haha.[/QUOTE]You see the quote listing the expected outlay for a SB, and I agree with that.

The thing is, if you get a real winner, then it's worth it for a while.

I have a winner, 6 ft tall, total freak. BBBJCIM to swallow, I introduced her to anal and she now asks me to fuck her ass. I tie her up and to all kinds of shit to her. She is a DT queen too. So, until this ends, which it will because I already see the immaturity peaking it's ugly head, including a long period of reeling her back in, but until then, I get to spend 4-5 hours doing anything I want to this woman. I give her 400 per meet and I spend 70-100 on the hotel. I have taken her out to eat a few times, not super fancy places but nice. She is a nice person, but her immaturity is going to be the reason it ends.

All this to say that if you strike gold, it can be great for a while. But it's still not cheap. (I'm going to giver her an extra 100 for Christmas).

So if you like fucking her, say 2-3 times a month, that's 400 x 3 = 1200. Plus minimum 300 on rooms. That's $1,500. Hopefully, you're getting many hours of the sex you are looking for for that price. If you find it, it's a way better deal than seeing a pro 3 times at $450 for three hours. I'm getting 15 hours of sex for the pro price of three. But do the math. I also try to stay away from clock watchers for this reason.

[QUOTE=BaltoMan66;6253662]You see the quote listing the expected outlay for a SB, and I agree with that.

The thing is, if you get a real winner, then it's worth it for a while.

I have a winner, 6 ft tall, total freak. BBBJCIM to swallow, I introduced her to anal and she now asks me to fuck her ass. I tie her up and to all kinds of shit to her. She is a DT queen too. So, until this ends, which it will because I already see the immaturity peaking it's ugly head, including a long period of reeling her back in, but until then, I get to spend 4-5 hours doing anything I want to this woman. I give her 400 per meet and I spend 70-100 on the hotel. I have taken her out to eat a few times, not super fancy places but nice. She is a nice person, but her immaturity is going to be the reason it ends.

All this to say that if you strike gold, it can be great for a while. But it's still not cheap. (I'm going to giver her an extra 100 for Christmas).

So if you like fucking her, say 2-3 times a month, that's 400 x 3 = 1200. Plus minimum 300 on rooms. That's $1,500. Hopefully, you're getting many hours of the sex you are looking for for that price. If you find it, it's a way better deal than seeing a pro 3 times at $450 for three hours. I'm getting 15 hours of sex for the pro price of three. But do the math. I also try to stay away from clock watchers for this reason.[/QUOTE]I've been seeing escorts for years, but have been spending more and more time with SA girls over the past few weeks. I've seen several girls for several hours at a time. I'm a good looking fun guy so I've found SA a real playground for me. Quite a few I've gotten anything and everything I ask for.

I've got one diamond in the rough already. Beautiful face, light skinned black girl, model type body, slender with slight curves, long legs, smooth, soft, tight skin, perfect bubble butt, 25 yo. Very, very smart, classy, fun as hell and great personality. We had a sleepover the first night I met her! She has her own place and hosts. $500 total. This girl can get $700/ hr if she went pro. Probably $5 k for an overnight. Sleepovers with cip every weekend. She really loves older men. I'm 51. I may ask her to date me. She's off the market and only seeing me. Sorry guys.

[QUOTE=BaltoMan66;6253662]You see the quote listing the expected outlay for a SB, and I agree with that.

The thing is, if you get a real winner, then it's worth it for a while.

I have a winner, 6 ft tall, total freak. BBBJCIM to swallow, I introduced her to anal and she now asks me to fuck her ass. I tie her up and to all kinds of shit to her. She is a DT queen too. So, until this ends, which it will because I already see the immaturity peaking it's ugly head, including a long period of reeling her back in, but until then, I get to spend 4-5 hours doing anything I want to this woman. I give her 400 per meet and I spend 70-100 on the hotel. I have taken her out to eat a few times, not super fancy places but nice. She is a nice person, but her immaturity is going to be the reason it ends.

All this to say that if you strike gold, it can be great for a while. But it's still not cheap. (I'm going to giver her an extra 100 for Christmas).

So if you like fucking her, say 2-3 times a month, that's 400 x 3 = 1200. Plus minimum 300 on rooms. That's $1,500. Hopefully, you're getting many hours of the sex you are looking for for that price. If you find it, it's a way better deal than seeing a pro 3 times at $450 for three hours. I'm getting 15 hours of sex for the pro price of three. But do the math. I also try to stay away from clock watchers for this reason.[/QUOTE]Thank you! This is the info I was looking for.

The fact of the matter is I have a someone that I made a potential arrangement with and wanted to make sure I'm not going too far over in monthly cost. Looks like I may be a bit over, but not much.

I'm not sure if I'll get the same non-clock watching approach, but we will see. When I paid by the hour, I usually got more time without watching the clock, but since I was technically paying more per meet, it may change things.

[QUOTE=Tkow70;6253835]I've been seeing escorts for years, but have been spending more and more time with SA girls over the past few weeks. I've seen several girls for several hours at a time. I'm a good looking fun guy so I've found SA a real playground for me. Quite a few I've gotten anything and everything I ask for.

I've got one diamond in the rough already. Beautiful face, light skinned black girl, model type body, slender with slight curves, long legs, smooth, soft, tight skin, perfect bubble butt, 25 yo. Very, very smart, classy, fun as hell and great personality. We had a sleepover the first night I met her! She has her own place and hosts. $500 total. This girl can get $700/ hr if she went pro. Probably $5 k for an overnight. Sleepovers with cip every weekend. She really loves older men. I'm 51. I may ask her to date me. She's off the market and only seeing me. Sorry guys.[/QUOTE]Man, I was wondering if you were finding success on SA. Looks like you have in a matter of a month or two. Good work!

Good info as well on costs. I'm tempted to try it out but the time to put in is my issue since this is a 2nd life for me.

[QUOTE=Witness2002;6253913]Thank you! This is the info I was looking for.

The fact of the matter is I have a someone that I made a potential arrangement with and wanted to make sure I'm not going too far over in monthly cost. Looks like I may be a bit over, but not much.

I'm not sure if I'll get the same non-clock watching approach, but we will see. When I paid by the hour, I usually got more time without watching the clock, but since I was technically paying more per meet, it may change things.[/QUOTE]A *real* SB has no particular time in mind and typically has no 'menu' - everyone has some limitations on what they like of course, most often those who want to discuss this just disavow anal, I have no problem w / that. I personally would never BB anyone, so that isn't an issue for me, many guys expect because they are seeing a SB and not an escort or SW they can go bare. If that is your attitude you'd better clear that up front and get her tested (and expect to pay for her test). You could get lucky and get an overnight w / a SB for the 'date' cost. I would always expect to spend 2-3 hours w / a SB in a hotel room for my per date amount. I eventually like to get them to the stage where I am giving them allowance once or twice a month. You have to get them to trust you to take the first tranche on the first of the month and then see you until the 15th (or the next month).

Curious for those of you who have had an SB and at some point ended it. How'd that go? Because really, that's the key part. Some of you have talked about how great it's going and the money and all that while also saying you know you're going to have to end it. That is the part where it can all go to hell. Because if she isn't ready for the allowance and gifts and all that to end, you could be looking at some major headaches. So, has anyone out here have an extended period with an SB and ended it and if so, how did it go? Really, isn't that why we see escorts and go to parlors, because when it's over it's over and we don't have to concern ourselves with any baggage? I agree that the good parts sound great, I'm just concerned about what the end game will be like and if that may ruin everything before it. But maybe I'm too cynical.

[QUOTE=Witness2002;6253917]Man, I was wondering if you were finding success on SA. Looks like you have in a matter of a month or two. Good work!

Good info as well on costs. I'm tempted to try it out but the time to put in is my issue since this is a 2nd life for me.[/QUOTE]I hear you man. I'm fortunate that this is my only life. I have no wife and am happily divorced. I'm on SA daily scoping out the hottest new blood. I've got about 10 lined up between $300-$600 ppm. Two cip confirmed and some still working on discussions.

Mainly looking for another hot overnight girl. One that likes to party and a total sub. I know the Unicorn is out there somewhere.

Another month or two and I'll have a full stable and some trades.

FYI. I get a full 10 panel test monthly and bring a plan b pill to be totally safe. A bottle of Prosecco doesn't hurt either.

[QUOTE=Tkow70;6254396]I hear you man. I'm fortunate that this is my only life. I have no wife and am happily divorced. I'm on SA daily scoping out the hottest new blood. I've got about 10 lined up between $300-$600 ppm. Two cip confirmed and some still working on discussions.

Mainly looking for another hot overnight girl. One that likes to party and a total sub. I know the Unicorn is out there somewhere.

Another month or two and I'll have a full stable and some trades.

FYI. I get a full 10 panel test monthly and bring a plan b pill to be totally safe. A bottle of Prosecco doesn't hurt either.[/QUOTE]I tried sending you a DM. Your inbox is full.

I just entered into a monthly arrangement with a 22 year old former track athlete. Half Polish, half German in a total smoke show however, it is new so we will see how it goes. The monthly amount is $2,400 but with the understanding that she might need a couple hundred more some months just for a little extra spending money. We saw each other three out of the last five days and quickly discussed moving from PPM to a monthly as ppm at the rate I was seeing her would have bankrupted me. Like I said, we will see how it goes. As I have recently been interviewing, I also saw another 22-year-old, very artsy, but her ADHD makes time in bed a real handful, although she is down for anything. Costs $450 PPM plus Uber from the city and back which adds another $120 plus if we go out. In addition, I have started to see a 32 year old school teacher who is super cute and a lot of fun but that is also $450 ppm. I like the 32-year-old the most, but it simply becomes a time and cost issue. I have another I see that is also 32 years old, very pretty Polish girl, but sometimes she drinks heavily and her home life is complicated. I have seen her the longest, almost 18 months but infrequent maybe once a month and no longer provide her with any income when we see each other. The last one that I have also seen recently was also for over a year 22 y / o Polish girl and I would give her 400 for the first visit during the week and 300 for the second if there was a second. I have found most are OK with $400 to $500 ppm. Anyone willing to accept less is probably not worth it, nor anyone looking for more would not be any better than what I am finding at that price point.

I recently concluded a seven month arrangement / relationship with a beautiful 26 year old Special Education Teacher. It started at 500 ppm but then we went to a monthly and she wanted to see me often and I did not feel like becoming bankrupt. Also, she understood that if there was no fun time that she was not getting any income for that moment. She was fine with that as sometimes she would just like to come over, hang out, have dinner and watch TV. Eventually we evolved to where I was just paying some of her expenses but eventually she refused to take any money from me as we just ended up dating and she did not want to find a relationship any longer as an arrangement. It ended poorly though as emotionally she could not handle the break up as her family decided to move to Florida, which would mean she would've either had to move in with me, but would lose regular contact with her family and we were too fresh to reasonably make that happen. And when I say it ended badly, I do not mean extreme drama, but we just stopped talking which was disappointing as I was hoping to continue seeing her even in Florida. A little on me, I am 56 but very fit and live alone. Of course finding these girls has required a lot of work I compared to fishing. You have to spend your time sorting through the junk, but there are some diamonds in SA.

[QUOTE=Witness2002;6252700]Never tried SA but does anyone know what the potential costs can amount to? Sounds like one can strike gold and potentially get a number of meet ups for a couple hundred a month; and no clock. ?[/QUOTE]