Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=HawaiiBoy;3566470]I am embarrassed to say this but I went over to this dump the other day again and I swear the women there are awful. I can't believe I spent money for an old hag who doesn't even know how to have sex. I need to look in the mirror again and re-evaluate what I am doing. I went over there because it is easy and I can walk there and that was a mistake. I swear I will never walk in that place again because it is pure garbage. Stay away!!

HB.[/QUOTE]I wonder if the decent-quality girls were lost to raids, and this 4th-string crew is all they could get.

Thanks for exploring and sharing; you the man. I don't mind an old lady if she shows me a good time, but it sucks when you get a provider young or old who maybe shouldn't be trying to do this kind of work.

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3567102]The "City Garden Spa" advertisement on Craigslist says it's located at 1331 Makaloa Street, which is on the makai side of Makaloa slightly Diamond Head of Sheridan Street.

[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/d/welcome-to-city-garden-spa/6325101529.html[/URL]

Note that "17 Massage," "Best Asian Massage" and "Cherry Blossom" used the same address.[/QUOTE]This is in the blue building on the Ewa side of the old Suzies on Kapiolani. The entrance is on the Kapiolani side under the overhang. I have been there for massages before and they had a girl Alice working there that I had once who was ok but they have hit the bottom with the 2 girls there now. The pictures are obviously fake and Anna who runs the place texted me and said is the broken English "New Young Girl" come try. These girls are 40 year olds who need money and think they can have sex for it but they don't know how to be a provider. I feel sick thinking about those girls over there.

HB.

Not many reviews lately. I'm curious about Kitty in PT, Saw a positive post but vague, Annie at top? Nothing. Amy at TS? Anyone?

Just FYI, Pink Orchid is re-opening Monday 10/2 with Mama Jun from Crystal Healing as manager. Sandy from Cypress will be working there, with a couple of other providers TBD. No ad yet, but as soon as one is available, I'll provide the link.

[QUOTE=HiPickle;3568448]Not many reviews lately. I'm curious about Kitty in PT, Saw a positive post but vague, Annie at top? Nothing. Amy at TS? Anyone?[/QUOTE]You know I kind of figured it out. A lot of guys are fucking their go tos and don't report because somehow they want to keep those girls to themselves. Am I wrong. ? Lots of the top providers are busy fucking 10 guys a day but have 0 reports and sometimes if they come slow their shill writes a report for them how good they are. Bust it out boys.

[QUOTE=BotoMoco;3570004]You know I kind of figured it out. A lot of guys are fucking their go tos and don't report because somehow they want to keep those girls to themselves. Am I wrong. ? Lots of the top providers are busy fucking 10 guys a day but have 0 reports and sometimes if they come slow their shill writes a report for them how good they are. Bust it out boys.[/QUOTE]Why assume those mongers "want to keep those girls to themselves"? I'm definitely not one of those guys but I can think of another possible reason. The popular girls don't need the publicity since business for them is good, and they might even be asking their regular customers to not review them online since all that will do is possibly get them singled out and targeted by LE and various official agencies.

[QUOTE=Johnny14;3567212]That one calls herself Anna, can't massage, wants money upfront and asks $65 for HJ. Not worth it, cock tease, no FS or roaming, better you go Century on Kaulakau.[/QUOTE]That place is run by Fernando of Hawaii Kai. All fake photo's and crappy massages if that's what you wanted there. Its a HE place that will cost you 65 HF plus 1-1. 20 to roam.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3570088]Why assume those mongers "want to keep those girls to themselves"? I'm definitely not one of those guys but I can think of another possible reason. The popular girls don't need the publicity since business for them is good, and they might even be asking their regular customers to not review them online since all that will do is possibly get them singled out and targeted by LE and various official agencies.[/QUOTE]Yeah I never thought of it that way. I guess I was just looking at it from he perspective of how busy the popular providers are and no one says a thing about them.

My 2 cents on this matter is that I also believe that there are 5 more reasons why:

1) Some of the more long time mongers don't want to keep posting the same info about the same well reviewed provider over and over, unless there was a significant change in service, price, attitude, looks, etc.

2) Our Honolulu forums have so many damn subcategories that it makes it hard to really follow along sometimes and since we cannot search on anything with less than 4 letters, it makes it tough to RTFF. In other words, the info is probably in this forum somewhere, but it got buried deep in all the other clutter.

3) The active posting longtime / Senior members have realized that there are a ton of "Aku birds" on this forum who never show themselves / participate & just troll silently for the free info and / or newbie / longtime members who (the ones that don't contribute on the boards or don't TOFTT ocaisionally) just pop in and out and post requests for info on a place or provider. Thus some of the Senior members may have created a standalone PM network only for themselves.

4) Hypothetical: Monger "X" read a post that girl "X" does FIV with Monger "why" but when Monger "X" sees girl "X," he is told to not do that and he makes a big issue of it or he keeps doing it anyway despite her protests. Now girl "X" will not allow FIV for anyone including Monger "why. " So now Monger "why" may start to hold back from posting things like that again if he really finds a gem and new ATF.

5) The recent LE crackdowns have caused some mongers to be protective (for the time being) of thier G2 G / ATFs, and rightfully so to some extent.

These are just my thoughts after being a member here for the last few months, so don't take offense or flame me either.

Monger on! HT.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3570088]Why assume those mongers "want to keep those girls to themselves"? I'm definitely not one of those guys but I can think of another possible reason. The popular girls don't need the publicity since business for them is good, and they might even be asking their regular customers to not review them online since all that will do is possibly get them singled out and targeted by LE and various official agencies.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/d/pink-orchid-welcome-to/6330064765.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=HonoluluChas;3571155][URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/d/pink-orchid-welcome-to/6330064765.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Ah, no wonder the door was open and there was remodeling trash by the entrance. So is Mama Jun still going to feast on meat before it gets a chance to make it to the room?

[QUOTE=HMobius;3571453]Ah, no wonder the door was open and there was remodeling trash by the entrance. So is Mama Jun still going to feast on meat before it gets a chance to make it to the room?[/QUOTE]It's been a while since she's had access. So I imagine she'll be grabby.

Chas.

[QUOTE=HappyTug;3571040]My 2 cents on this matter is that I also believe that there are 5 more reasons why:

1) Some of the more long time mongers don't want to keep posting the same info about the same well reviewed provider over and over, unless there was a significant change in service, price, attitude, looks, etc.

2) Our Honolulu forums have so many damn subcategories that it makes it hard to really follow along sometimes and since we cannot search on anything with less than 4 letters, it makes it tough to RTFF. In other words, the info is probably in this forum somewhere, but it got buried deep in all the other clutter.

3) The active posting longtime / Senior members have realized that there are a ton of "Aku birds" on this forum who never show themselves / participate & just troll silently for the free info and / or newbie / longtime members who (the ones that don't contribute on the boards or don't TOFTT ocaisionally) just pop in and out and post requests for info on a place or provider. Thus some of the Senior members may have created a standalone PM network only for themselves.

4) Hypothetical: Monger "X" read a post that girl "X" does FIV with Monger "why" but when Monger "X" sees girl "X," he is told to not do that and he makes a big issue of it or he keeps doing it anyway despite her protests. Now girl "X" will not allow FIV for anyone including Monger "why. " So now Monger "why" may start to hold back from posting things like that again if he really finds a gem and new ATF.

5) The recent LE crackdowns have caused some mongers to be protective (for the time being) of thier G2 G / ATFs, and rightfully so to some extent.

These are just my thoughts after being a member here for the last few months, so don't take offense or flame me either.

Monger on! HT.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head with number4! There's a lot of monger X guys who don't understand the concept of YMMV. I've been told even that there's some assholes who go and show the post and say to the provider why he can't do too.

Yes brother Raiden, I have had a couple of really good, honest providers that have told me that same thing, in that some mongers get pushy and use this forum as leverage to get what they want. Very sad and tacky in my opinion. This is a hobby of YMMV and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. HT.

[QUOTE=Raiden;3571502]You hit the nail on the head with number4! There's a lot of monger X guys who don't understand the concept of YMMV. I've been told even that there's some assholes who go and show the post and say to the provider why he can't do too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Raiden;3571502]You hit the nail on the head with number4! There's a lot of monger X guys who don't understand the concept of YMMV. I've been told even that there's some assholes who go and show the post and say to the provider why he can't do too.[/QUOTE]And girls do in fact leave because some of these assholes.

[QUOTE=HappyTug;3571040]
5) The recent LE crackdowns have caused some mongers to be protective (for the time being) of their G2 G / ATFs, and rightfully so to some extent.

Monger on! HT.[/QUOTE]Is this why the streets are kind of quiet in Waiks (at least)? I remember 4-5 months ago walking around and being approached by numerous girls, and now barely anything. Sometimes nothing.

[QUOTE=Raiden;3571502]You hit the nail on the head with number4! There's a lot of monger X guys who don't understand the concept of YMMV. I've been told even that there's some assholes who go and show the post and say to the provider why he can't do too.[/QUOTE]I said it before and I'll it again, it is the provider's job to sell the fantasy that every customer is special. So when a regular customer reads that other cutomers are getting services he's not getting, of coarse he will feel cheated, especially if another says it was his first or second time with her. Who is really being the asshole? The customer reporting getting a service a girls is not known for? Or the regular customer who was sold the fantasy that he was special, asking for services he thinks others are getting?

[blue]The real asshole is the guy who sees a hooker how doesn't fuck him well more than once.

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From chm now at pink massage.

Good luck Jun. Jun. Take care.

[QUOTE=OneShort;3578217]From chm now at pink massage.

Good luck Jun. Jun. Take care.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all good times (good friends).

Since it was my original post that was being commented on, I would also like to add that if you see an indie escort or go to a real AMP, then yes the service should be pretty much consistent, as it is a known fact the BJ / FS is on the menu.

If you see a massage girl, despite what others post regarding the extras they got, it should not be an expectation that "extras" are always included, as they normally advertise just a "massage. ".

However, the expectation is that you will get a good massage at a minimum with these providers and you can normally adjust your tip up or down to take into account "extras," no "extras," a good legit massage or a shit legit massage, provided you don't tip up front.

If you see a massage therapist and you get a decent massage with no extras (and was not shorted time), but walked out of there paying 60+20, you got your money's worth IMHO.

I have also noticed that becoming a regular customer makes a big difference and going into a first visit with an aggressive attitude sometimes can do more harm then good. My ATF / GTGs like gentlemen and to be treated like a human being, as these are still ladies with feelings.

Using this forum as leverage or being a poser want to-be baller, will not earn you any long term brownie points with any provider.

Lastly, YMMV. We all have to deal with it from time to time. HT.

[QUOTE=Ingwa;3575201]I said it before and I'll it again, it is the provider's job to sell the fantasy that every customer is special. So when a regular customer reads that other cutomers are getting services he's not getting, of coarse he will feel cheated, especially if another says it was his first or second time with her. Who is really being the asshole? The customer reporting getting a service a girls is not known for? Or the regular customer who was sold the fantasy that he was special, asking for services he thinks others are getting?

[blue]The real asshole is the guy who sees a hooker how doesn't fuck him well more than once.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]

Dallas, linda at resuve.

Hilton, kata at dream (disappear now).

Nara at top (disappear).

[QUOTE=HonoluluBidder;3579121]Dallas, linda at resuve.

Hilton, kata at dream (disappear now).

Nara at top (disappear).[/QUOTE]APPLE and ULA pretty hot at Vanilla.

Just like YMMV TEHO.

[QUOTE=Rimmer808;3579815]APPLE and ULA pretty hot at Vanilla.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HonoluluBidder;3579121]Dallas, linda at resuve.

Hilton, kata at dream (disappear now).

Nara at top (disappear).[/QUOTE]That's impossible to say because everyone has different tastes.

It would be hard to agree on the top 5 AMPs.

Did any monger get heart attack there?

[QUOTE=KualaLumpurGuy;3581142]Did any monger get heart attack there?[/QUOTE]If he did, he won't be posting here for a while LOL.

[QUOTE=GoAllIn;3582448]If he did, he won't be posting here for a while LOL.[/QUOTE]That would be a good way to go dying of a heart attack while having an orgasam. LOL.

[QUOTE=Asian975;3582759]That would be a good way to go dying of a heart attack while having an orgasam. LOL.[/QUOTE]I guess it wouldn't be so bad to be "Cumming and going at the same time" . LOL.

IG.

[QUOTE=GoAllIn;3582448]If he did, he won't be posting here for a while LOL.[/QUOTE]At least he died happy LOL! Rather then rot in an old folk's home getting daily enemas from Ina the sadistic nurse.

[QUOTE=Johnny14;3583001]At least he died happy LOL! Rather then rot in an old folk's home getting daily enemas from Ina the sadistic nurse.[/QUOTE]Sounding a little personal there! LOL.

If I had to get enemas everyday I would blow it all over the place so they would have to clean it up!

[QUOTE=Asian975;3582759]That would be a good way to go dying of a heart attack while having an orgasam. LOL.[/QUOTE]Ahh, the literal la petite mort.

If we can't label pornstars as prostitutes, we shouldn't label AMP girls either. Both are getting pay for sex. It's basically the same thing. Unlike AMP girls, the pornstars do it behind cameras, don't complain if you have a big dick, do everything bareback.

[QUOTE=JohnRoss;3583431]Ahh, the literal la petite mort.[/QUOTE]The great part of this is you don't know if you are cuming or going.

Hey brothers,

I've been out of the AMP game for a while. Can you please share the FS rates nowadays? I don't want to overpay. And any AMP recommendations (looks and service)?

[QUOTE=MrSolo74;3593462]Hey brothers,

I've been out of the AMP game for a while. Can you please share the FS rates nowadays? I don't want to overpay. And any AMP recommendations (looks and service)?[/QUOTE]Total is 200. HF 50 + 150 tip or HF 60 + 140 tip.

Welcome back. Same price for 20 years. 50 house fee, 150 minimum in the AMP.

They all good, try one and report.

[QUOTE=MrSolo74;3593462]Hey brothers,

I've been out of the AMP game for a while. Can you please share the FS rates nowadays? I don't want to overpay. And any AMP recommendations (looks and service)?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LocaLoppa;3593573]Welcome back. Same price for 20 years. 50 house fee, 150 minimum in the AMP.

They all good, try one and report.[/QUOTE]Way back when, once upon a time around the mid 1970's, the price was $30 at the door. I believe the name of the place was Tropicals located on Halekauwila. Pay $30 at the door and pick the girl you want (local girls). Go into the waiting room and a entire stable of young women out to make a buck or two. Thats right the full price including the provider was $30 and later they raised the price to $32. Thereafter, the prices gradually increased. That was the good old days, when we didn't earn much but $30 was a lot of money back then.

When the Koreans moved into the business, the price gradually went up to todays rate.

Some of the old time studs will remember that place. There were other establishments as well.

I sometime pay less than the going rate if the girls knows and likes you as a regular. I've seen more than one provider that gives an occasional free service but I had to pay the house fee . Yes, it always YMMV. Treat them well and they will in turn reward you.

[QUOTE=DrGyno;3598759]Way back when, once upon a time around the mid 1970's, the price was $30 at the door. I believe the name of the place was Tropicals located on Halekauwila. Pay $30 at the door and pick the girl you want (local girls). Go into the waiting room and a entire stable of young women out to make a buck or two. Thats right the full price including the provider was $30 and later they raised the price to $32. Thereafter, the prices gradually increased. That was the good old days, when we didn't earn much but $30 was a lot of money back then.

When the Koreans moved into the business, the price gradually went up to todays rate.

Some of the old time studs will remember that place. There were other establishments as well.[/QUOTE]In the mid 70's the price of gas was 50 cents and a pack of cigarettes was the same price, before the days of gas rationing. Steal my grandfathers Chrysler Newport and put 3 bucks and cruise Chinatown, Hotel St then Waikiki then back to Chinatown. The Olympia and Primo days in the bars was 25 cents.

[QUOTE=DrGyno;3598759]Way back when, once upon a time around the mid 1970's, the price was $30 at the door. I believe the name of the place was Tropicals located on Halekauwila. Pay $30 at the door and pick the girl you want (local girls). Go into the waiting room and a entire stable of young women out to make a buck or two. Thats right the full price including the provider was $30 and later they raised the price to $32. Thereafter, the prices gradually increased. That was the good old days, when we didn't earn much but $30 was a lot of money back then.

When the Koreans moved into the business, the price gradually went up to todays rate.

Some of the old time studs will remember that place. There were other establishments as well.

I sometime pay less than the going rate if the girls knows and likes you as a regular. I've seen more than one provider that gives an occasional free service but I had to pay the house fee . Yes, it always YMMV. Treat them well and they will in turn reward you.[/QUOTE]I remember going to Tropical and after seeing one of the girls, hit the Korean night clubs with the owner. There was another place on Bethel street above the local eatery that was fun to be at too. There were local Japanese, Haole and even Thai women. Twenty five dollars was great.

I went get BBBJ their from one Hawaiian honey. She said 20 buck BBBJ, 25 if you cum in mouth. I proudly paid 25, LOL. Done in 15 min.

One bar maid at crystal palace wanted me to be her BFF, so she walk me to my car and BBBJCIM me at my car, good night honey, LOL.

Was late 70's early 80's. Rainbows still had dollar chili plate then.

[QUOTE=DrGyno;3598759]Way back when, once upon a time around the mid 1970's, the price was $30 at the door. I believe the name of the place was Tropicals located on Halekauwila. Pay $30 at the door and pick the girl you want (local girls). Go into the waiting room and a entire stable of young women out to make a buck or two. Thats right the full price including the provider was $30 and later they raised the price to $32. Thereafter, the prices gradually increased. That was the good old days, when we didn't earn much but $30 was a lot of money back then.

When the Koreans moved into the business, the price gradually went up to todays rate.

Some of the old time studs will remember that place. There were other establishments as well.

I sometime pay less than the going rate if the girls knows and likes you as a regular. I've seen more than one provider that gives an occasional free service but I had to pay the house fee . Yes, it always YMMV. Treat them well and they will in turn reward you.[/QUOTE]