"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Don,

Like the success stories. But tell us more. Share some of your challenges and frustrations.

How did you get to this point of fucking a Tilted Kilt girl for a 100.

Tell us about bringing them in from another state or flying them in. I would love to hear about the do's and don't s on that one. How do you pick those? How do you set it up? What do we need to watch out for?

Keep it coming brother.

Revvo

[QUOTE=Donwhite;1752091]I couldn't resist and had to see my tilted kilt baby for a couple of hours today and she brought her outfit! She only wanted $100 to come for a couple hours. That's just great value. I've never had anyone make me finish as fast as her it's crazy! I think I'm in lust and I'm going to have to see her at least twice a month. On another note, I have a dinner date with a 27 yr old sb on Wednesday and it could turn into an overnight if I play my cards right. I've usually never had any luck with girls from Tennessee until the last few weeks. I've always had sbs from Alabama drive up or have to fly one in from somewhere like Florida or Virginia. Life is good![/QUOTE]

Dinner with my Nursing Student baby last night got changed to drinks at 9, since my older daughter came out to the house as a surprise and wanted to have dinner with me since she knew I was all alone and probably feeling lonely! I had to scramble to file a new flight plan, but it was approved by the tower, and by 930 we were tucked into a booth in an almost deserted bar in a Holiday Inn Express.

After the first round, my baby informs me that her roommate is in for the evening with a cold, so returning to her place is not an option! WTF! Then she looks straight into my eyes, with her hand lightly petting Scottie (which he loves), and reminds me that we are, in fact, in a hotel. God, I love a resourceful baby!

I march up to the front desk, book us a room, and then tell the dude behind the desk, point blank, that I don't want any paperwork of any kind sent to my address, and he tells me that he will erase all my info from the computers if I am paying cash! This is the first time this has happened to me, but I am going to see if I can get the same treatment in the future. I wonder now if he didn't just pocket the $89 he charged me for the room, but what do I care? It is now going to be my new go-to hotel, since it is only $20 more than my local Motel 6, but infinitely nicer in quality.

When we get into the elevator, my baby attacks me like I am catnip and she is a tiger! I LOVE nursing students! That should be its own section on SA. The night was fantastic, with two pops for me, and three for her, including a very vocal self-assisted one that I found astonishingly erotic. I love seeing a baby rubbing her own pussy while I'm fucking her.

Not much sleep, and a quick round this morning, set me up nicely for a breakfast with one of the more beautiful, and I know I use that word a lot, but trust me on this, beautiful babies that I have ever seen. This was our second date, so the conversation was flowing, the jokes and laughter were rolling, and it all was just so fine. She is smart, funny, spunky, and as I said, beautiful. Like soap star beautiful. We parted with a nice hug, and a kiss or two, but as I was walking to my car, I honestly thought that I was out of the running, since she could easily have any SD in the city. Hold that thought.

Fast forward to 1 pm, and I am meeting my HYM at that farm to table restaurant on the north side of the city. All goes extremely well, she is just utterly delightful, and I am packing wood that would impress Paul Bunyan! As predicted, she asks if I could give her a ride back to her apartment, and we end up making out on her couch, with most of her clothes unbuttoned and ready for removal. It is at this point that she decides we need to "clarify some details", and proceeds to tell me that she is expecting $800 per meeting, whether there is fucking or not, since that was what her last SD provided, and she wants 4 meets a month! I had to shake my head a bit to make sure my hearing was still working! She's hot, but not THAT hot!

After an awkward few moments, I respectfully suggested that I was perhaps not the Daddy for her, zipped my pants back up, and headed out the door, feeling very, very sorry for myself. No sooner did I clear the front door, but I got a text from BeautifulBaby saying that she really likes me, and want us to start seeing each other. The Sugar God taketh away, then only to giveth again! I am so excited about this new turn of events, partly because this new baby reminds me eerily of an old girlfriend so much that I asked her if she was from Michigan, which is where the girlfriend was from. She is not, but who says you can't relive the past?

SO is home tonight, so Air Scottie is grounded for the next few days, but I am pleased with the missions I was able to fly, and looking forward to the sorties ahead.

Life is good, my brothers!

Scott

And all why'all are going to call bullshit, but I swear on the holy bowl'o'sugar its true. And I haven't told anyone. And its killin me.

So I'm in insurance, go to Europe for big company meetings a few times a year. Being the ginormous perv I am, I've been to every FKK club known to man, and a few trips ago went to this swingers club that lets a few single dudes in. Had a great time banging frauleins while their husbands watched. Its their thing. Who am I to judge.

So a few weeks ago I'm heading over, fire up SA, search Dusseldorf and send out a perfect torpedo spread (Sub Cmdr would be proud) of perfectly blunt "I want to meet, take you to dinner, and if we "click" take you to a swingers club" messages. I'm guessing my chance of success is about 1.

I get a response.

From a hot, blond, blue eyed german girl. Seriously. Very attractive.

Who works at Anderson Consulting in Cologne (haven't we all wanted to fuck a consultant?)

We meet for dinner. We "click", agree on 300 for the night. We go to the club. We fuck, she fucks other dudes, I fuck other girls (some hot, some not, lights are low, who cares).

I'm going to hell.

Happy.

HC.

I just needed to share.

Love reading profiles. The randomness. Some of these women are truly exceptional. Some. Well.

Saw this tonight. From a hottie in NYC."I also enjoy camping, hiking, hunting / skee ball, and archery"

Can anyone clue me in on WTF hunting has to do with skee ball? I'm not making this up. Check out profile 1327296.

Perhaps I'm missing some lingo.

Same profile as before.

"FYI I love bison burgers they're very healthy!

I am an animal lover to the fullest! Except I'm not against wearing or eating them"

Yes you are, sugar baby animal lover, yes you are.

These three sentences, unedited, back to back.

Awesome.

HC

Paraphrased to eliminate boredom. 20 year old AA spinner looks 5'4" about 110+. So not teeny tiny but close enough. Guaranteed non pro.

ME. I pay $ per date to get to know you maybe fool around a little.

HER. I'm new to this site and I haven't gotten many messages but your offer sounds really good. Honestly though I'm not looking to have sex for money at all. The most I would be willing to do is like oral sex.

ME. Sounds fair (sent copy of recent std test)

HER. I'm glad your clean because I don't have any stds and I don't plan on getting anything! That's my worst fear is getting an std LOL. I've only had one sexual partner ever.

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1752817]Don,

Like the success stories. But tell us more. Share some of your challenges and frustrations.

How did you get to this point of fucking a Tilted Kilt girl for a 100.

Tell us about bringing them in from another state or flying them in. I would love to hear about the do's and don't s on that one. How do you pick those? How do you set it up? What do we need to watch out for?

Keep it coming brother.

Revvo[/QUOTE]Well, it helps that I'm 29 and a bachelor, but I also look younger. My tilted kilt baby thought I was 23-25 so that works in my favor quite a bit. Talking about bringing them in from another state is quite time consuming and I'll try to comment on that later. BTW I have had a few members private message me wanting contact info / more information about my tilted kilt baby and I am not interested in sharing her with other sds. So please don't message me about wanting to contact or meet her.

So the 6 hour planned date with MsIntellectualBeauty turned into a 2 hour sit in the car and listen to her talk incessantly. She is completely new to this and has no frame of reference. She wants to move slow so that chemistry is built and the relationship can last. Now she wants to be seen like a lady and does not want to rush and seem easy.

This one has issues and cannot really see what she is getting into. So I am going to follow the model others have set and have patience, move at her pace. I will keep the donations very low as right now there is no affection or affirmation. This will drive me crazy, but I have others to keep me entertained.

I got two hits off CL today. Married 45 year old AA with a smoking body. Face is a 6 .5 . She is looking for attention and a good screwing. Meeting her on Sunday for meet and greet. Second is a nurse who's face is probably a 6, but the body is a 10. She lives alone and we will meet early next week.

BigTigg

I read your post with a huge smile. I go to Germany once a quarter on business as my companies HQ is about an hour north of Frankfurt. I never go to the office without a quick stop at Oase for a nap, coffee and a quickie. The openness about sex in Germany is amazing and I am actually glad I don't live the as I would be in Hell already!

Travel safe and enjoy!

[QUOTE=HighCotton; 1753000]And all why'all are going to call bullshit, but I swear on the holy bowl'o'sugar its true. And I haven't told anyone. And its killin me.

So I'm in insurance, go to Europe for big company meetings a few times a year. Being the ginormous perv I am, I've been to every FKK club known to man, and a few trips ago went to this swingers club that lets a few single dudes in. Had a great time banging frauleins while their husbands watched. Its their thing. Who am I to judge.

So a few weeks ago I'm heading over, fire up SA, search Dusseldorf and send out a perfect torpedo spread (Sub Cmdr would be proud) of perfectly blunt "I want to meet, take you to dinner, and if we "click" take you to a swingers club" messages. I'm guessing my chance of success is about 1.

I get a response.

From a hot, blond, blue eyed german girl. Seriously. Very attractive.

Who works at Anderson Consulting in Cologne (haven't we all wanted to fuck a consultant?)

We meet for dinner. We "click", agree on 300 for the night. We go to the club. We fuck, she fucks other dudes, I fuck other girls (some hot, some not, lights are low, who cares).

I'm going to hell.

Happy.

HC.

I just needed to share.[/QUOTE]

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Have been on and off with several long term SB's over the years and have been on the board before about some blackmail scheme a girl in RIchmond tried to run on me about a year ago. Dipping my toe back in and have date in Richmond for lunch on Tuesday with someone from SD4ME, where I have had good success before.

Since those of you who post and participate here have a good knowledge of the VA area I was wondering if anyone has come across the person with a profile #3747682 and goes by the name TheRealBaroness. Seems very high end and claims to have done this before. M.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Just doing my recon and want to make sure the M&G is worth the drive to Richmond from Charlottesville.

Thanks,

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1751686]The real money is what she takes from her be*tches at work (no offense to all you strip club lovers). I personally have never flipped a dancer. But you got her just at the right moment. And timing is everything. Of course being in Hollywood the girls are a little more hardcore. But this girl sounds fresh off the farm.

To ensure your safety and her income, just tell her stick to handjobs and fetish requests (which a lot of girls won't do but pay better money). You can laugh about her encounters when she tells you all about them in bed.[/QUOTE]You are right. Most dancers have heard and seen it all if they have been stripping long enough and most are jaded and hard core. Most also have plenty of suckers willing to drop hundreds on them just to hang out with them at the bar and get their crotches rubbed in the back room or in the "champagne room" where they get to pay an awful lot for a very little. I did catch this fresh young thing at the right moment and timing IS everything.

You are a great sounding board for this. We clearly think very much alike on the subject of sugar babies.

New member having relocated from So. Cal. To Richmond. Gentlemen, the information dispensed on this forum is a must read for all participating in the wonderful hobby of ours. I see a best selling book or movie blockbuster coming out of these threads. The info is phenomenal.

But onto business. I've been in contact with the Baroness and had a long running email conversation. When I decided not to pursue her, she turned on me like a cobra. It was pretty shocking how quickly and nasty she became. I was estatic that I ended that pursuit when I did. It may have been a bad day, but I don't think so. Be wary.

[QUOTE=Jaw4You; 1753236]Have been on and off with several long term SB's over the years and have been on the board before about some blackmail scheme a girl in RIchmond tried to run on me about a year ago. Dipping my toe back in and have date in Richmond for lunch on Tuesday with someone from SD4ME, where I have had good success before.

Since those of you who post and participate here have a good knowledge of the VA area I was wondering if anyone has come across the person with a profile #3747682 and goes by the name TheRealBaroness. Seems very high end and claims to have done this before. M.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Just doing my recon and want to make sure the M&G is worth the drive to Richmond from Charlottesville.

Thanks, [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1752817]Don,

Like the success stories. But tell us more. Share some of your challenges and frustrations.

How did you get to this point of fucking a Tilted Kilt girl for a 100.

Tell us about bringing them in from another state or flying them in. I would love to hear about the do's and don't s on that one. How do you pick those? How do you set it up? What do we need to watch out for?

Keep it coming brother.

Revvo[/QUOTE]Out of State Babies.

My situation is a lot different than most of you. I'm a 29 year old single bachelor. Therefore, I don't have to maintain as stealthy of an alter ego as most of you. At one point, I had trouble finding anyone that I wanted to meet in my state (Tennessee) so I used the search feature on SA to search around 250 miles from the area I live in. If I didn't find anyone who sparked my interest, I searched by nearby states (Alabama, Georgia, Missouri, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, Virgina, Florida, etc.) I like to talk and build up a rapport for a couple of weeks and I really like to skype and talk on the phone with potentials. I have big fingers and really hate texting. Once I feel comfortable, then I'd talk about them coming to visit. Some were very eager to come to Nashville and even drove 4-6 hours to meet me. I've had a 30 year old MILF come to visit from Alabama, a 25 year old Hawaiian tropics girl from Georgia, and a 20 year old girls of the sec playboy model from Mississippi. They all drove 4-6 hours to meet me and spend the night. Since they spent all the time driving to see me I generally compensated them well $500 for an overnight which I thought was fair since they basically spent 8-12 hours driving round trip. Some of you may disagree, but it's my money and I'll do whatever I want to with it.

There are certain pitfalls to this. Some insist on gas money before coming to visit. Sometimes it's a scam, I've only done that 4 times and only one actually came to visit after I sent money (The Hawaiian Tropics Model). Also, if you buy a plane ticket they can try to swap it for another ticket or try to cash it in. I've had that happen once.

I've tried to fly potentials in 3 times. One cashed in the ticket like I said before and the other two did come to visit. One was a 5'7 part time model from Richmond. She let me film us together and one was a 5'8 web cam model from Florida. Flying in can be expensive. I paid more for the fly ins once you consider dinner, activities, shopping, hotel rooms, cab fare, air fare etc. It ended up being at least 1K after everything was paid for.

Feel free to ask any questions and I'll try to comment when I have time.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1752602]First date percentage for sexual contact is about 80% (oral or HJ) and intercourse about 50 % of the time. My rule is they have to be within 45 minutes drive or cum to me. Also happy to be a trusted member of this thread. Thanks.

Also of my current top 3 girls. 2 I had intercourse on the first date and the other on the 3rd date.[/QUOTE]One of the things I definitely love about the SB Hunt is the initial kissing and fondling with a new baby. It takes me back to fumbling in the back seat of the car in HS. I typically go solidly from first to second to third and eating her out. I am batting almost 1. 000 on that one. Oral from her is almost a given after that, quid pro quo and all. If we fuck too then that's fine but I am happy with oral. I often prefer that to fucking anyway. Just lean back and watch her bobbing up and down sloppily and wide-eyed and offer the occasional nasty instructions.

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1752817]Don,

Like the success stories. But tell us more. Share some of your challenges and frustrations.

How did you get to this point of fucking a Tilted Kilt girl for a 100.

Tell us about bringing them in from another state or flying them in. I would love to hear about the do's and don't s on that one. How do you pick those? How do you set it up? What do we need to watch out for?

Keep it coming brother.

Revvo[/QUOTE]I had one tilted kilt success too. Those outfits are HOT!

Challenges and frustrations? If you do this enough there will be plenty. Forget the ones that never even showed up which are about 20 but I thought about it long and hard and I have had at least 5 failures in physically meeting a SB for the first time. All these failures were her meeting me in a hotel room before we even had met in person. Two of them came into the room, were very nervous and just wanted to leave after a few minutes of talking. My guess is that regardless of the approach I would have struck out on those. They just weren't ready. On two occasions I did my typical kissing and fondling, undressing her and eating them out and afterward they both begged off further activity saying it wasn't for them. On both occasions I was at least able to convince them to give me a HJ in all fairness after I had gotten them off. One sucked and fucked me for an hour and then suddenly quickly got dressed and bolted from the room even leaving her purse behind which she returned for. Given that I have had well over 100 SBs give or take I suppose this is not such a bad batting average. I don't know that it taught me much other than that you are going to run into some women who just either aren't into you physically or are just getting cold feet regarding the reality of it.

Gentlemen,

Out of curiosity, I google imaged her picture. Here is her website: [url]http://www.scarlettjamesburlesque.com/about.html[/url]

Looks like she could give most men a hernia, but maybe that's not a bad thing. I have had two babies who were involved in the Modern Burlesque movement, and both were completely uninhibited in bed, if also a bit bossy. Bad with the good, I say.

Scott

[QUOTE=ICantGetNo; 1753386]New member having relocated from So. Cal. To Richmond. Gentlemen, the information dispensed on this forum is a must read for all participating in the wonderful hobby of ours. I see a best selling book or movie blockbuster coming out of these threads. The info is phenomenal.

But onto business. I've been in contact with the Baroness and had a long running email conversation. When I decided not to pursue her, she turned on me like a cobra. It was pretty shocking how quickly and nasty she became. I was estatic that I ended that pursuit when I did. It may have been a bad day, but I don't think so. Be wary.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I am going to meet her for lunch, but she is already trying to negotiate allowance without even meeting so I pretty sure it won't get too far, but her pics are very nice and it will be an enjoyable arm candy lunch at the minimum. I will update afterwards.

There is so much happening that I have to report in again. Mainly so I can keep it all straight in my head. As usual there was some good and some bad. But overall it is moving in the right direction. I am getting to the point of saturation. And so far I do not have one 100 baby. So this aint cheap.

REVVOATF: Not too much to report here. We are planning a trip together. She is the only one I would trust with this. I have a business trip and think I am going to fly her out to me after the business part is over. She is a educated a professional, very discreet and understands how to keep a low profile. She even volunteered to stay in the hotel room the whole time. She does not cost or spend a lot of money. I may have to get her on an allowance. Plus she gives such great head. So many good things here. Did not see her all week she was working out of town all week. We will get together this coming week. The only thing about her is she is fun but not as exciting as some of the other babies. She is more quiet. But that also makes her more reliable and more trustworthy.

REVVOPOT1: Now this one is a hot one. Man I really really like this one. Probably too much. But that is the way I am. She is a beautiful 26yo MILF and she lives actually in another state. But the drive between us would be about 2 hours each. She models and is a mom. (I know I have talked about a few of these being models, but that is what they tell me and I have seen their work. I don't think any are supermodel types. But my little ATF has been in a lot of magazines). Anyway this little MILF was very conservative when I first contacted her. Did not respond until the second email. She has never done any of this before and is also married, and wants to be careful. But sure enough as we texted and talked more she got more and more heated up. We have connected very well and she has become quite responsive. She is married and is ready to get away for an overnight. In two weeks. She is so sexy, so beautiful, and ready for a man to really fuck her well. And I am just the daddy for the job. But I have also learned being in the sugar bowl that anything can happen. So we will see.

REVVOPOT2:I am plugging a new POT in here since the last one flaked. You know it would be nice if these babies would put in their profile that they are flakes. LOL Anyway this new one contacted me from a city 3 hours away but that I go to on a regular basis. Very cute, had two SD's before. Possibly Nando1 material. Looks real good in a bikini. A little hard. But she is coming around. 22yo white I would give her a 7/8/6 right now. This is a work in progress and frankly I am not going to kill myself over her. But I think I will use this as an experiment to practice certain techniques I have theories on.

REVVOPOT3:As I said in my last report this one was a bit of a disappointment so I am moving on. Funny thing is I think she knows this too because she is not contacting me as much either. So I will plug a new one in here. This new pot lives near by and is a handful so far. Could be a serious GPS. But she has a profile picture that shows and xray shot of a woman giving a man deep throat. It is hilarious. And she says she can do this for me. Haha. Anyway she sent me pics and she is a gorgeous latina, has had two SD's before is 22yo I give her a 9/9/7 for right now. Probably wants way too much money but we will see.

REVVOPOT4: Another flake from last report. I do not have one to plug in here so I will leave it blank for now.

REVVOPOT5: Very hot looking asian 37yo, flaked on me. Only got the M&G appointment but never really chatted and never was able to get her to send me more photos and number. This is a very bad sign of potential flaking. I think these types are so deep into trying to source the best suitor that they miss having any fun and enjoying anything. She probably did me a favor by not showing. Anyway she is gone. I am going to have to work on a cheat sheet on flaking behavior.

REVVOPOT6: Now this one is hot and good to go. 25YO divorced MILF, she is very cute, but appears to be a little heavier than her photos. This happens to me a lot. Still working on my screening techniques on this one. I am going to give her a new rating of 8/7/9, she was a 8/9/7 before. We met last night and really had a good, w time. She is very nervous. Has a friend that is coaching her and is very genuine and sincere. I really like her and even though she may be a little heavy around the hips she is very sexy and beautiful face. Plus she really likes me and wants to fuck bad. She has that kind of innocent horny MILF thing going on. That she really needs some sex bad. She has a real job is responsible, a nice car and two small kids. Plus she is very submissive and wants to follow my lead. By the way I look for this and most women want to be submissive they are just waiting for a man to take the lead. Especially in the bowl what do you think all of this sugar DADDY stuff is about anyway. So we had a great date. Did some smoochin but could not do a lot since we were in separate cars in a valet parking line. But she kisses real well and is hungry for more. We are scheduled to meet for lunch and the FC on Tuesday.

REVVOPOT7: I am starting to like this one more and more. Very enthusiastic and ready to please. Once again wants to be submissive and try to make me happy. Just wish she was not so hurting for money. That creates desperation and then they can do crazy things. But she has promised me that she will be my best sugar baby ever and that she will give me the highest quality experience. This one is a spinner and I am looking forward to the experience. We are scheduled for Monday first visit to the FC Going to try to start her at 150 and she how it goes.

REVVOPOT8: This NANDO1 is probably going to fall off of the list. She has no clue what she is doing. She tried to get me to send her money for doing nothing. She has talked to me about including my wife so she will feel less uncomfortable about the whole thing? She is out there and I do not have the time to rehabilitate her. She never once mentioned what she would do for me. Just what I could do for her and my wife. People like this are doomed to failure in life. Because they do not have any clue on how to give value. Kind of sad really. But then there are a lot of sad people on that site.

REVVOPOT9:This one is a live one. She is a cute redhead. But once again is not as good as her pic. She has put on about 15 lbs since the pic. She now waitresses at IHOP and realizes that is a problem for her weight. Very open minded. Very intelligent, beautiful milky white skin. Good to go for the FC next week. She has a boyfriend he knows what she does and approves. She has lot of the piercings and has offered to remove them if it is a problem. But I am stretching my open minded muscles and told her no. We definitely got some looks at the Starbucks we just did not look like we go together. But she is cute and I can get real kinky and freaky with her if I want. Never talked money but she had an SD before so I don't think I can go too low. Probably try 200.

REVVOPOT10: This is the latina I told you about that just did not look that good in person. I stopped putting any effort into this one. She really wanted to meet and was ready to get fucked. Then she brought up money. I offered 150 and she told me it was too low. She then countered with 500! And I politely declined saying it was too high. I got to tell you if this chick can get 500 with her weak personality, fat dumpy body, and ok head I would be amazed. I may spend 500 to 10 nuts with her. But I don't think I could stick around for the time and effort to get to 10 nuts. She did me a favor by asking too much. This one is dropping off the list.

List is getting consolidated. I am not even pursuing any more at this time. Next week I have 4 fuck sessions Monday is POT7, Tuesday is POT6, Wednesday will be POT9, and Thursday is my ATF. I am going to be completely drained of all fluids by the end of the week. And the following week I am scheduling a meet at a beach town for an overnight with my potential ATF POT1. I believe the list will get shorter moving forward. I only have so much time and money. Next week is going to be expensive. But I have been building my war chest.

Lets be careful out there.

Revvo

[QUOTE=Donwhite; 1753393]Out of State Babies.

My situation is a lot different than most of you. I'm a 29 year old single bachelor.

Feel free to ask any questions and I'll try to comment when I have time.[/QUOTE]Don, the young hotties must be all over you. Oh to be 30 ish again and have the $$ to mine this treasure chest. YMMV at any age but being

60ish definitely puts me in the back seat. Heck, even 40 yr olds are "young stuff" to me LOL. I think 30 to 40 is the optimal age for the 20 yr olds which I like.

"The Baroness" has been working SA and SDFM hard. I have gotten very aggressive proffers from her on my profiles on each site. She appears beautiful but her price was in the upper $ hundreds as I remember. She is too mercenary for my likes.

[QUOTE=ICantGetNo;1753386]But onto business. I've been in contact with the Baroness and had a long running email conversation. When I decided not to pursue her, she turned on me like a cobra. It was pretty shocking how quickly and nasty she became. I was estatic that I ended that pursuit when I did. It may have been a bad day, but I don't think so. Be wary.[/QUOTE]You are not alone. She contacted me a few times and when I responded and declined all. She did became "the viperess."

NIce to see I was not alone.

I have been having luck in my regular dating. I'm banging one latina and a mixed girl. I met at the bar for free and dating expeneses like drinks. I still want to enjoy the sugar while I can the economy is getting better, so that means the quality of girls will decrease to just low income girls. My economic projections have the economy getting better in 2014. So I decided to enjoy the last of the golden era. I signed back up to SA and tried sd4me. I am looking just for one at the most two high quality SD's since I am enjoying free pussy now.

POT1A- AA 22 thick average body cute face seems normal senior in college, has a full time job.

We talked on the phone she seems pretty normal sent me pics of her huge thick ass, but I offered to meet.

At a hotel first meet she agreed as long as we met outside first. This gave me a huge feeling that she was a non pro.

I am not in the market for a non pro only legitimate sugar babies, plus she seems to be on the site everyday.

So I decided not to pursue contract denied.

POT2- Mexican ok body great rack. 23 yr old, she seemed very needy and said she met one sugar daddy at a hotel.

But didn't do anything because he couldn't get hard, and she complained he was fat. She is too needy and has a non pro vibe contract.

Denied.

POT3- 22 Italian / Greek great rack great body cute face, her dad is Lawyer, who is now only sending her money for her rent, because she ran up her credit card bills. Graduated from Michigan State University. She seemed really normal and had a good job she makes 45K a year and her dad pays her rent, and she still needs money for luxurys's what the hell is wrong with kids now a days. Any.

Way Wedsday we meet at the most expensive restaurant in Chicago, She orders 75. 00 worth of food and drinks, only eats a third of it. She made it up with decent conversation, she seemed pretty normal just a little naive about life. Any way she comes over my apartment for drinks today. We finally talk specifics about allowance. She ask for 2000 a month. I tell her how about we do 400 a meet for three times a month and see how things go. She hesitates, but agrees I should have talked her down to 300-350, but Chicago is a competitive market and she is a good catch. We get down business good oral technique and the sex ok, but then I realized. I'm already out of $$$$$ when you add her allowance plus the dinner. So I decide to get my moneys worth, I break out my video camera and ask her to walk around the house naked with a butt plugg up her ass while I film her from behind. She is a suburban girl so kind of hesitated but I convinced her and got a good homemade fetish tape, and recorded us banging the second time, and got a hardcore video. I will keep her around for atleast a month but she is expensive and I may way to free up money for other.

Adventures in the summer. Contract Approved.

[QUOTE=Rob Taylor;1753893]I still want to enjoy the sugar while I can the economy is getting better, so that means the quality of girls will decrease to just low income girls. My economic projections have the economy getting better in 2014. So I decided to enjoy the last of the golden era. I signed back up to SA and tried sd4me. I am looking just for one at the most two high quality SD's since I am enjoying free pussy now.[/QUOTE]Don't worry Rob, This ship has sailed and the cat's out of the bag. The young girls will keep on cumming because they like it, the old gals because they have too.

This Sugar life is a matter of public record and girls know easy money when they see it. Worst case scenario for a sugar baby, she gets a free dinner and / or drinks and ducks out on a Pot SD who she doesn't like the looks of. Best case she gets cash or stuff to bang a guy who is actually attractive to her and a good lover. All the while continually prospecting for another bigger and better payday. Some girls run a string of SDs all paying her for the privilege of fucking her. Morality doesn't seem to enter into it anymore. The bottom line, a girl with "good" morals would never enter this world for any reason. Period. All the rest of the 80 % come up with an rationalization to take money for sex.

My current ATF HCG found me and referred her sister to the site. The sister is keeping a string of multiple guys who are squiring her around, feeding her, fucking her. My girl might be doing that also, but she "says " not. After all, if SB A is getting $ 1000 / month from SD 1 for one day / week, why not line up another 2 Daddies to clean $3000 / month or more? And nobody is the wiser. SD #1 is 200 miles away#2 is 50 miles #3 is 1000 miles. Men do it, I'm sure the girls all do it as well.

FredMore,

Good thoughts Fred. I agree with a lot of it. But when it comes to the morality part I have a different take. I am not trying to get into a debate. But frankly if she is immoral for doing this then what are we?

I do not consider paying for a SB to be immoral. If I did I would not do it.

I have yet to find a free piece of ass. The most expensive pussy I have ever found is my wife she costs me about $70 grand per year. And I don't even want to think about what my CPO is on that one. And the experience is not all that great.

Morality is about doing what is right. Not about what society says you should do. I think society is pretty fucked up on this one. In fact it is society that has forced us into these underground arrangements.

I look at it like this. I am not hurting anyone. I am not forcing anyone to do anything they would not want to do. In fact I make sure my babies are all in, if they are not I walk away. I do not hurt myself. I look at it as if I am making the world a little bit better place by helping these babies out.

Any way my two cents.

Lets be careful out there.

Revvo

[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1754115]Don't worry Rob, This ship has sailed and the cat's out of the bag. The young girls will keep on cumming because they like it, the old gals because they have too.

This Sugar life is a matter of public record and girls know easy money when they see it. Worst case scenario for a sugar baby, she gets a free dinner and / or drinks and ducks out on a Pot SD who she doesn't like the looks of. Best case she gets cash or stuff to bang a guy who is actually attractive to her and a good lover. All the while continually prospecting for another bigger and better payday. Some girls run a string of SDs all paying her for the privilege of fucking her. Morality doesn't seem to enter into it anymore. The bottom line, a girl with "good" morals would never enter this world for any reason. Period. All the rest of the 80 % come up with an rationalization to take money for sex.

My current ATF HCG found me and referred her sister to the site. The sister is keeping a string of multiple guys who are squiring her around, feeding her, fucking her. My girl might be doing that also, but she "says " not. After all, if SB A is getting $ 1000 / month from SD 1 for one day / week, why not line up another 2 Daddies to clean $3000 / month or more? And nobody is the wiser. SD #1 is 200 miles away#2 is 50 miles #3 is 1000 miles. Men do it, I'm sure the girls all do it as well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1754115]Don't worry Rob, This ship has sailed and the cat's out of the bag. The young girls will keep on cumming because they like it, the old gals because they have too.

This Sugar life is a matter of public record and girls know easy money when they see it. Worst case scenario for a sugar baby, she gets a free dinner and / or drinks and ducks out on a Pot SD who she doesn't like the looks of. Best case she gets cash or stuff to bang a guy who is actually attractive to her and a good lover. All the while continually prospecting for another bigger and better payday. Some girls run a string of SDs all paying her for the privilege of fucking her. Morality doesn't seem to enter into it anymore. The bottom line, a girl with "good" morals would never enter this world for any reason. Period. All the rest of the 80 % come up with an rationalization to take money for sex.[/QUOTE]I hope your right, but I remember in 05 when the craigslist scene was great, because all the chicks who were too normal or pretty.

To ever walked the streets, now had a venue to make money. You were able to find great girls at affordable prices, but then those girls start leaving the scene, and all you were left with was low end trash. Craigslist shut down, so the non pro scene was good for awhile and now its horrible. The backpage scene opened up at thats worse then craigslist towards the end of it run as far as quality of girls, even though the economy was way better in 05. These scenes can reduce in quality really fast, because the good looking chicks either find a long term boyfriend or improve their financial situation. I'm already seeing a decline in quality in SB scene from a year ago. There will always be low income girls, but hot college graduates will start to decline, along with the hott milfs.

Especially the White, Asian and to lesser extent Latin woman.

I could be wrong, and with advertising from CEO's of these SD sites, along with the fact that alot of these girls.

View this as normal, respectable and more moral than escorting, that there will always be a baseline of quality.

For all of our sakes, but I don't want to take any chances.

[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1753866]Don, the young hotties must be all over you. Oh to be 30 ish again and have the $$ to mine this treasure chest. YMMV at any age but being

60ish definitely puts me in the back seat. Heck, even 40 yr olds are "young stuff" to me LOL. I think 30 to 40 is the optimal age for the 20 yr olds which I like.

"The Baroness" has been working SA and SDFM hard. I have gotten very aggressive proffers from her on my profiles on each site. She appears beautiful but her price was in the upper $ hundreds as I remember. She is too mercenary for my likes.[/QUOTE]Have to disagree here. I am 59 and I have an endless supply of 18 to 20 year olds at my disposal. And thats at $ per date max.

[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1754115]Don't worry Rob, This ship has sailed and the cat's out of the bag. The young girls will keep on cumming because they like it, the old gals because they have too.

This Sugar life is a matter of public record and girls know easy money when they see it. Worst case scenario for a sugar baby, she gets a free dinner and / or drinks and ducks out on a Pot SD who she doesn't like the looks of. Best case she gets cash or stuff to bang a guy who is actually attractive to her and a good lover. All the while continually prospecting for another bigger and better payday. Some girls run a string of SDs all paying her for the privilege of fucking her. Morality doesn't seem to enter into it anymore. The bottom line, a girl with "good" morals would never enter this world for any reason. Period. All the rest of the 80 % come up with an rationalization to take money for sex.

My current ATF HCG found me and referred her sister to the site. The sister is keeping a string of multiple guys who are squiring her around, feeding her, fucking her. My girl might be doing that also, but she "says " not. After all, if SB A is getting $ 1000 / month from SD 1 for one day / week, why not line up another 2 Daddies to clean $3000 / month or more? And nobody is the wiser. SD #1 is 200 miles away#2 is 50 miles #3 is 1000 miles. Men do it, I'm sure the girls all do it as well.[/QUOTE]There are a few high moral character girls on the sites. They are naturally attracted to older guys. Money is not the prime objective. They want the total package. They will not have sex with more than one guy at a time. But they need a lot of emotional support. Typically they all want overnites (a good qualifier). No girl is spending 24 hours with you and having sex 2 or 3 times for $ because they are a gold digger.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1754309]Have to disagree here. I am 59 and I have an endless supply of 18 to 20 year olds at my disposal. And thats at $ per date max.[/QUOTE]YMMV Hollywood

It's good to hear that "good " girls can be found. I know generalizations are just that and there are always exceptions. Human nature is what it is, and many girls given the time and motivation can and will work the system to their advantage. We want sex and they want support. It is a marketplace subject to supply and demand And BTW, I'm am fully invested in seeking out these good girls and have found many But the fact is that they are selling their wares (thank G!) The acid test for "goodness" is whether you would approve of your daughter doing this on the SB side. LOL I already know the answer to that.

I used to be idealistic until I discovered my dear ATF # 1 had 3 of us on the hook. In spite of that I strive to find that one who is happy with one guy, loving, romantic, girlfriend like (GFE in escort parlance). I have to admit though that I can't find a $100 girl who is a keeper. I could keep 3 of those / week.

So, I see my ATF # 3 tomorrow night for an overnight, and have a super hot Pot meeting me for dinner Tuesday, and an AA hottie on Thursday. This week should be good if it all lines up as planned.

[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1754565]YMMV Hollywood

It's good to hear that "good " girls can be found. I know generalizations are just that and there are always exceptions. Human nature is what it is, and many girls given the time and motivation can and will work the system to their advantage. We want sex and they want support. It is a marketplace subject to supply and demand And BTW, I'm am fully invested in seeking out these good girls and have found many But the fact is that they are selling their wares (thank G!) The acid test for "goodness" is whether you would approve of your daughter doing this on the SB side. LOL I already know the answer to that.

I used to be idealistic until I discovered my dear ATF # 1 had 3 of us on the hook. In spite of that I strive to find that one who is happy with one guy, loving, romantic, girlfriend like (GFE in escort parlance). I have to admit though that I can't find a $100 girl who is a keeper. I could keep 3 of those / week.

So, I see my ATF # 3 tomorrow night for an overnight, and have a super hot Pot meeting me for dinner Tuesday, and an AA hottie on Thursday. This week should be good if it all lines up as planned.[/QUOTE]Dang! I hope I didn't end up overpaying. I registered at SA last week and went 2/2 in 48hrs. Average spend was $$.

[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1754565]YMMV Hollywood

It's good to hear that "good " girls can be found. I know generalizations are just that and there are always exceptions. Human nature is what it is, and many girls given the time and motivation can and will work the system to their advantage. We want sex and they want support. It is a marketplace subject to supply and demand And BTW, I'm am fully invested in seeking out these good girls and have found many But the fact is that they are selling their wares (thank G!) The acid test for "goodness" is whether you would approve of your daughter doing this on the SB side. LOL I already know the answer to that.

I used to be idealistic until I discovered my dear ATF # 1 had 3 of us on the hook. In spite of that I strive to find that one who is happy with one guy, loving, romantic, girlfriend like (GFE in escort parlance). I have to admit though that I can't find a $100 girl who is a keeper. I could keep 3 of those / week.

So, I see my ATF # 3 tomorrow night for an overnight, and have a super hot Pot meeting me for dinner Tuesday, and an AA hottie on Thursday. This week should be good if it all lines up as planned.[/QUOTE]My 30 year old daughter who has a decent job and is on a career path to 6 figures and is fully aware of my sugar activities does not seem interested in this type of arrangement. But if she found the right person and they wanted to spoil her in an exclusive or even non exclusive arrangement I would not disapprove (just stay safe and get tested). Being she has been spoiled to death by her bio daddy it would take more than a new bmw to accomplish this. But I can't really say "do as I say and not as I do." Both my sisters got into old school sugar arrangements (they married the money) in a scenario where I actually helped set them up (one is happily married and the other one is lez so I guess it was doomed from the start, poor guy). I guess it runs in the family. I always wished my own mom was a sugar babe, as I grew up mildly disadvantaged. I remember my grammy telling my sisters over and over "it's just as easy to marry a rich man as a poor man".

But I get your point. And it has taken me years to find these girls. And currently I have 4, but need to let one go due to my inability to fully sexually satisfy all four to the level they would like and still have something left over for the occasional random girl or interviewee. I tried really hard (no pun intended) to do that the last 2 months and I am beat. Strangely it doesn't stop me from continuing to interview. In last weeks search I found 3 (all 19 or 20). Two are just booty calls but 1 of those 3 for sure is a total non pro spinner with only one previous sexual partner. L. A. Is just too overloaded with pussy. Especially in the burbs.

When asked, they all complain there are just not enough SD's to go around. Like you say, supply and demand. I demand and they supply. Life is good.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1754313]There are a few high moral character girls on the sites. They are naturally attracted to older guys. Money is not the prime objective. They want the total package. They will not have sex with more than one guy at a time. But they need a lot of emotional support. Typically they all want overnites (a good qualifier). No girl is spending 24 hours with you and having sex 2 or 3 times for $ because they are a gold digger.[/QUOTE]The money attracts SBs. Of course. But many stay for more than the money. I started with a cute chubby SB who is a very intellectual college student. She was clearly into exploring her kinky side: getting blindfolded and tied up, spanked, teased and pleased. This girl can orgasm and squirt for hours on end to the point where I am totally physically exhausted and need additional help from some handy sex toys. I still give her presents and take her to eat etc. But we are well beyond the more usual arrangement of $ per date. I am the sexual highlight of her week and she is mine and so it goes. Life IS good my brothers

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;1755096]The money attracts SBs. Of course. But many stay for more than the money. I started with a cute chubby SB who is a very intellectual college student. She was clearly into exploring her kinky side: getting blindfolded and tied up, spanked, teased and pleased. This girl can orgasm and squirt for hours on end to the point where I am totally physically exhausted and need additional help from some handy sex toys. I still give her presents and take her to eat etc. But we are well beyond the more usual arrangement of $ per date. I am the sexual highlight of her week and she is mine and so it goes. Life IS good my brothers[/QUOTE]Yeah I wish I was more aware of all this sooner. LOL.

[url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/x_factor/4259337/Simon-Cowell-says-fiance-Mezhgan-Hussainy-was-his-big-mistake.html[/url]

Rich guys sugar bill. In american dollars thats a $7. 5 million dollar home. Ridiculous.

For a good looking. Not awesome 39 year old with fake tits. And all they did was fight? This is way better.

I have been the victim of many flakes since pursuing this little adventure. And it has been a source of great frustration. I am certain that I am not the only one. So to help myself as well as my brothers out.

I thought I might put together a little cheat sheet to help with the flaking problem. This is not all inclusive but it has the gist of the issues. Simply look at the characteristics below and select which ones your potential baby has. If she has more than two of these you are looking at t potential flake. If more than three you may want to consider moving on.

1. White and over an 8 on the looks scale.

2. Under 25 YO.

3. Asian and over a 7 on the looks scale.

4. Talked only about herself on the profile, such as spoil me, support me, take care of me, but did not mention what she will do.

5. Only uses one word answers on her responses to you or very short answers.

6. Takes more than an hour to respond to a text.

7. Does not have a job, or is only going to school casually such as not really pursuing a degree or profession.

8. Keeps unusual hours, such as out partying all night.

9. Cannot contribute to conversation. You have to do everything to keep it going.

10. Does not seem to have any outside interests. No passion or goal.

11. Nando 1's.

12. Strippers.

13. There appears to be drama or crisis in her life, such as boyfriend is mean to her, children from more than one father, etc.

14. Only uses one form of communication eg: texting, but will not or cannot talk on phone, or does not use email.

This list is not exhaustive. You may want to add or subtract from this. Because we are talking about women here. And even worse Sugar Babies. They are not going to be easy to nail down. Keep in mind that young beautiful women are being pursued on an almost constant basis. They may get hit on in person 10 or 20 times per day in a busy city where they see a large amount of the public. Then they are being inundated with offers on the SD sites. She may be juggling many men right up until and even after she meets you. Wouldn't you do that if you could? Hell some of us do that already.

Flaking is a part of the game. Just a little list to help deal with it. Kind of. Haha.

Be careful out there.

Revvo

#MsCosmetologist stood me up. She had been the most dependable of the bunch. Suddenly after two dates with the third in line for the TiggaBounce, she stops emailing and texting the day before she was supposed to drive up. Unfortunately because I had already prepaid for the room. I tried to no avail to get use out of it, but the 3 other SBs could not make that kind of move on short notice. I was so surprised by all of this, she's not returned one text since last Thursday. But she is another that smokes weed daily and I was trying to not be so judgmental. But again, the weed smokers have been the most undependable.

FreakyDentalAssitant as settled into her role as booty call friend. She's now sending x-rated videos to keep my attention. Very nice. If she would slim down some, she'd be in the running for my #1.

#MsIntelligentBeauty is having more issues with the University that requires more funds, but I've reached my non-Tiggabounce limit. If she'd move a little faster and give up the goodies, she'd get much more and would have these problems solved. She did finally send me a flirty picture that was very nice. So she's moving along in the right direction.

#MsPartyGirl wants to meet this week, but I can't. Between work and my two new CL finds, I'm not going to have the time.

#CL Finds.

#MsMarriedDeprived. 45 year old AA. Replied to my ad on CL, very nice body, tall (5'9 and then wears heels) and very well kept, sexy curvy body. Does not need any money, wants attention, companionship and a good screwing. We had a great 2 hour date that ended with some serious making out in her car with all body parts being touch by both. We'll probably meet again this week. She's has said that I can get the goodies on the next date.

#MsWhatABody. 27 year old AA. Replied to my ad on CL. She's prefect SB material. Nurse, making it with her own money, just needs a little help. Met her in person and looks better than her pics, moving her up to a "7" in the face department. 9.8 in the body department and 9. 5 in the personality department. It's a long story but we had a really long first date. So long it included two meals, lots of driving and ending with watching the game at her place. She has moved to the top of the list and we'll meet again on Wed.

BigTigg

[QUOTE=Flirting Guy;1754995]Dang! I hope I didn't end up overpaying. I registered at SA last week and went 2/2 in 48hrs. Average spend was $$.[/QUOTE]Give us some details. Tell your story man. Don't leave us hangin.

We always try to help each other out on here. What seemed to work? Describe the babies.

Was it just a quick thing or long term potential?

2 for 2 in 48 hours thats awesome.

Revvo

[QUOTE=Revvo;1755867]I have been the victim of many flakes since pursuing this little adventure. And it has been a source of great frustration. I am certain that I am not the only one. So to help myself as well as my brothers out.[/QUOTE]Hi Revvo. Love your posts. While I do not disagree with this post let's look at it from a slightly different perspective. In the sugar bowl you are a salesperson. You are selling some girl on the idea that your goods are better than the competitors goods. In this post we are only talking about SB's. Not SW's, Strippers or Escorts of any kind.

Sales Call. Any part of the process prior to a Closed Sale.

Closed Sale. An exact time and date has been set for a M & G. This may be a coffee date or a motel date, car date, doesn't matter. Anything short of this is not a closed sale and so no flaking can occur.

Cancellation. The SB makes contact in some form to change the plans of the Closed Sale.

Flaked. The SB did not arrive at the destination at the agreed upon time and place. And there was no official Cancellation. Not even a one word txt.

In approximately 200 M & G's I have never been flaked on once. But I have been deceived about looks or upsold after a meet (another topic) due to poor qualifying. So I consider this a 100% closing rate. The average good sales person will close at 80% to 90%. The over eager sales person will close at 50. What makes the difference?

You send your initial intro letter to 20 pot SB's that are in your league. They are in your league based on comparable looks equality, interest level (personality compatability) or your ability to pay the going rate for the quality of goods and services offered. 7 girls write back to say that you sound interesting and that maybe you can move to the next level of negotiation. Do not over promise and stick to your budget. If you are casting a wide net most likely at least 3 will be slam dunks. At least one out of three will be a true non pro never did this before for real fresh off the farm SB. The other two will be UTR's, pros or seasoned veterans of some type.

Many SB's will answer in some way that may encourage you or say yes to almost any question you ask. It's easier to say yes than to say no. Eliciting a "yes" is not a Closed Sale. It may just be a way to avoid saying no. Many sales people do not pre-screen and pre-qualify enough to have a good close. It's more like a waiter in a Chinese restaurant that doesn't speak english saying yes when you ask if a certain item on the menu is any good. They never say no. Also initial short responses may occur due to txting while driving, being in the company of others, etc. But eventually a real convo must be started. If not just walk away. This is not a flake, just someone who is not interested.

Most girls will do anything to avoid a confrontation with a guy due to prior bad experiences. Not your fault but always keep in mind they are in the bowl because they are not happy about their lives in some way.

After a bit more messaging, txting, etc. You get to the actual live on the phone conversation. At this point you must do 2 things. Create a sense of urgency to meet asap within a take away environment. All decisions are based on emotion coupled with a financial return that equates to the matter at hand for both parties.

Once all this has been established and you feel a date and time has been set you are ALMOST there. Make sure you have an exact itinerary of their schedule for the day in question. Make sure their time is free and clear and only an absolute emergency can change things. Then make them repeat back to you exactly what, when and where they are agreeing to in no uncertain terms.

While this post could go on forever and be far more nuanced I am trying to keep it as short as possible. One more thought. There are 2 main types of guys out there. Hunters and trappers / fishers. I do a little of both. If the hunt does not produce an immediate Closed Sale, then I just set the trap or bait the hook and wait. I just walk away so to speak. I never appear to be over eager if I do not get the immediate desired response. It's much better to appear busy and have lots of choices. Real SD's do not grow on trees. It's supply and demand. I demand and they supply (or not). Either way I could care less. Just present the offer before the girl and let her decide. Don't sound salesy. No bragging, boasting or macho behavior. There is a new girl putting up her profile for the first time as you read this. Get there first, make your pitch, try for the close and walk away if you don't. Then let the call backs begin. Now you are in control.

Obviously this is a very general post and YMMV. Try different intro letters and track your results. Start a spread sheet and keep good notes. Build your pipeline and even make dates YOU may flake on (just cancel by txting). If your pipeline is big enough you could never meet all those girls anyway. But it looks good on your spreadsheet.

One last note. Always ask for a couple of pics (not nudes, just regular pics) and reply with a couple of yours (not bare in any way) along with a current std report and vasectomy report (if you have one). This will increase your closing rate.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1755612][url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/x_factor/4259337/Simon-Cowell-says-fiance-Mezhgan-Hussainy-was-his-big-mistake.html[/url]

Rich guys sugar bill. In american dollars thats a $7. 5 million dollar home. Ridiculous.

For a good looking. Not awesome 39 year old with fake tits. And all they did was fight? This is way better.[/QUOTE]Perfect example of bad judgement in an otherwise smart as hell Master of the Universe. This man could have any girl he wants and he picks a freak, by his own admission. So we all should not judge ourselves too harshly since most of us are not as well heeled. Emotions are a funny thing and sometimes we can be self destructive.

Hollywood,

Once again great stuff. Quick question.

What do you do to qualify the POTs? Is it a questioning thing? What specific things are you looking for?

Also on the STD report do you redact you personal info?

And you don't think this is too forward?

Thanks again,

Revvo

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1756097]Hollywood,

Once again great stuff. Quick question.

What do you do to qualify the POTs? Is it a questioning thing? What specific things are you looking for?

Also on the STD report do you redact you personal info?

And you don't think this is too forward?

Thanks again,

Revvo[/QUOTE]I will get to the qualifying later. But as to the std report. Yes I redact my last name. And every girl I have given that to has thanked me. Every single one. Plus it puts you onto the topic of sex in a healthy way immediately. And every girl wants to have good clean all american fun. Sugar babes in general are a little kinky. I figure any girl willing to date a guy 35 to 40 years older than her has got sex on the brain automatically.

How do you prefer your babes?

1. Totally shaved, waxed or laser-ed?

2. Jet strip.

3. Trimmed.

4. Furry.

For me its got to be # 1. I actually query them prior to an interview to make sure and let them know there will be no sexual contact if they do not comply. Most girls in L. A. Are 100% shaved so not too big a deal.