Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Dynefreelance]I decided that I had a bit of cash to spend on myself after seeing my family for the holidays (yes, this is from like a week ago). So I took a trip to MT for a little personal enjoyment. Called 15 min ahead of time to book an appointment with the girl I saw last time.

She answered at the window when I rang the bell. She didn't recognize me from my last visit, and asked my ID again. Most people think I look 10+ years younger than I actually am, its actually quite annoying. Though to be honest I can't really blame her since it was 2 months ago or so. She took me to a room and had me undress, ect. Their table shower wasn't working the last time I came, so it was a good experience this time around. The massage afterwards was a lot lighter and shorter than the last time.

On the flip she ask me what I wanted, which was FS. Left $. 4 on the table while she left for a second. BJ application was short but deep. Started with CG and finished with Mish. I noticed she was on the Rag afterwards. She claimed that it had started just now, which I don't know if I believe. Though I don't remember seeing anything when we switched positions. I should have demanded some of that tip back but I left it at that. It may be time to try someplace else when I'm in NOVA.[/QUOTE]

As a newbie I will ask this of you... Please do NOT state that an AMP in PWC does FS. Take that to the private messages section between members. PWC is well known for doing busts and really screwing over the lives of us mongers by posting our names and addresses in the local paper. Because you decided to blatantly state that you paid for FS at MT, I have no desire to go there anytime soon as it will be under radar once again. You meant well but be cautious with posting certain information. Also, please provide detail of your provider. When you said you paid $.4 for your treat, is that 140.00? Because to me, thats a lot for a girl at MT. A spinner at a condo would cost $.60 total, so paying $.40 for the extra service on top of the house fee for the massage you got screwed twice.

Seeing "std +" does not want me to go there, maybe it would be better to spell that out next time. :)

[QUOTE=Tapas]Went to celebrate Grand Opening.

Brand new clean environment.

Saw M*******

NOVA std +

Unfortunately, the "tip discussion" had to interrupt the proceedings.

May return to investigate the other therapists.[/QUOTE]

Sir Amp Alot is completely right. I would even go on to say if you get FS from anywhere keep it to yourself except for PM from more senior members.

If you like an AMP don't be the reason they have to close their doors!

Visiting in area, in your cold, cold windy weather, and looked up a few comments here and from CL.

Tried a place mentioned on Backlick, it was closed and remodeling, tried another, no answer. Left the area for a bit then came back to Little River. Another place closed- and another with no "OPEN" sign. So I didn't even try the door. O for 4

I started thinking I arrived the day after a series of raids! (but have found nothing in the papers) So, it was Sunday. In late morning and early afternoon- the girls must have still been at church.

Later I got lost on Backlick (love that name)- ended up at a place which has not gotten good reviews here. But in I went.

Older 40s (+) K gal, who I thought was MMS, but after I asked for just 1/2H she was the provider. No TS, she did a 'light' massage. Which consisted of just fingertips. What some girls do after a 'real' massage before flip. Kinda tingly and nice, but. She quickly had me flip and went straight to town. I was on the table and back out in the cold in maybe 20mins. It was a, what you call, standard (not std) NOVA finish.

So with her actions, manner, (direct) style. She is the MMS. She just took a cut from the house. 6.so how much do I tip?

In the parking lot on my way out I realize her car is the 2008 Mercedes, mine is the rented POS. She could change the name of the place to Princess'

[QUOTE=Sir AMP Alot]As a newbie I will ask this of you. Please do NOT state that an AMP in PWC does FS. Take that to the private messages section between members. PWC is well known for doing busts and really screwing over the lives of us mongers by posting our names and addresses in the local paper. Because you decided to blatantly state that you paid for FS at MT, I have no desire to go there anytime soon as it will be under radar once again. You meant well but be cautious with posting certain information. Also, please provide detail of your provider. When you said you paid $. 4 for your treat, is that 140. 00? Because to me, thats a lot for a girl at MT. A spinner at a condo would cost $. 60 total, so paying $. 40 for the extra service on top of the house fee for the massage you got screwed twice.[/QUOTE]After looking more closely at the past year in this board, I understand where your coming from about PWC. My fault, but don't live in this area so I did read about it carefully before posting. I can understand your bothered because of all the LE interest. You might want to create a post with general things like this. Otherwise more mistakes will be made.

As for the price comment, YMMV. You've been here long enough to know that. It happened before I even join the board and new standard ranges. Hell, even if had been a part of board before going there, I probably would have overtipped. But that's to each his own.

I'll give the name out to any senior who asks, though I probably should have put that in the earlier message. On a side note how do I change my earlier post, or is it too late?

If you are caught in a raid in PWC, no matter what you are doing in there at the time, you name and address will appear in the newspaper the next day and you will be charged with "frequenting a bawdy place".

If you can handle that kind of publicity and the money for a good lawyer then by all means have your fun in PWC. Otherwise just stay away from that county completely!

It just ain't worth it!!!

PWC = Prince William County Virginia

JJ

and why take the chance.

Can you say how PWC classifies the "Bawdy House", I knew of regular spas that were busted, where as they did not service one or two of the girls freelanced....

Anyway to know if an establishment might be listed, in PWC.

Thanks for the great warning.


[QUOTE=Sleazebum]If you are caught in a raid in PWC, no matter what you are doing in there at the time, you name and address will appear in the newspaper the next day and you will be charged with "frequenting a bawdy place".

If you can handle that kind of publicity and the money for a good lawyer then by all means have your fun in PWC. Otherwise just stay away from that county completely!

It just ain't worth it!!!

PWC = Prince William County Virginia

JJ[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Justforme]and why take the chance.

Can you say how PWC classifies the "Bawdy House", I knew of regular spas that were busted, where as they did not service one or two of the girls freelanced....

Anyway to know if an establishment might be listed, in PWC.

Thanks for the great warning.[/QUOTE]


I would say that PWC targets places that require a buzzer to gain access. Normal massage parlors have a reception area and full access at the entrance. They are normally well known as salons etc. The place is listed with PWC as a licensed massage parlor. In order to obtain a license for their business, they must first apply through the county. The normal massage parlors also have licensed therapists and are proud to display the certs at the entrance.

Great news. Nana from the now closed Sun VIP on 8th St. is working at Green in Sterling.

Nice facility; new TS; great session

80/80 nice hard massage, hot towel treatment, back walk, no rush full hour.

Definitely repeat.

There was an independent Korean massage girl/escort working out of NoVa who went by the name G. She typically advertised on Eros. i saw her once and had a good time, but she seems to have disappeared. Anyone know what happened to her? PM is okay.

Thanks.

Massage Relieve for all your stress (9962 Main st fairfax VA)

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Location: 9962 Main st fairfax VA

Being charged with something does not mean convicted of it. The cops who would do the riad would be doing so based on the assumption the place is a bawdy place. Your name and address in the paper would be listed with that charge. Guilt has nothing to do with it at this point, you life is ruined as soon as the paper comes out.

JJ

[QUOTE=Justforme]and why take the chance.

Can you say how PWC classifies the "Bawdy House", I knew of regular spas that were busted, where as they did not service one or two of the girls freelanced....

Anyway to know if an establishment might be listed, in PWC.

Thanks for the great warning.[/QUOTE]

I would hardly think that my life would be ruined.I wouldn't want to pay out for lawyers.But I have to if I want to win. I've noticed over the years that clients of amps rarely,if ever, are convicted.

If it is not important to you then have a blast and do not sweat it!

I know that if I am even accused I would lose (at a minimum) wife, house, car, and job.

So take the advice for whatever it may be worth but DO NOT play it down in any case.

And it IS your own decision and risk - not mine and I will NOT argue the point any more nor waste any other person's time in the forum.

If you insist on arguing, do so via PM only! Anything else I will ignore.

JJ

[QUOTE=AKFourtySeven]I would hardly think that my life would be ruined.I wouldn't want to pay out for lawyers.But I have to if I want to win. I've noticed over the years that clients of amps rarely,if ever, are convicted.[/QUOTE]

I think it would depend a great deal on what you do for a living. Teacher, life over, member of Congress not so much. Minister-over, professional athlete (with the exception of golf) ok. TV actor of child show-done for, Late night personality-go back for seconds.

[QUOTE=Sleazebum]If it is not important to you then have a blast and do not sweat it!

I know that if I am even accused I would lose (at a minimum) wife, house, car, and job.

So take the advice for whatever it may be worth but DO NOT play it down in any case.

And it IS your own decision and risk - not mine and I will NOT argue the point any more nor waste any other person's time in the forum.

If you insist on arguing, do so via PM only! Anything else I will ignore.

JJ[/QUOTE]

I knew places in other States that were "legit" nail and massage; but owners can only monitor so much. I have been to a few "real" places that have had unoffical extras that the owner did not know about or kept a blind eye to. When my friend comes to visit me she like to go for couple massages where we are and I would hate to take her some place and a few minutes later they are banging down the door.

These appear to be good signs to avoid should my friend picks out a place...

Thank you


[QUOTE=Sir Amp Alot]I would say that PWC targets places that require a buzzer to gain access. Normal massage parlors have a reception area and full access at the entrance. They are normally well known as salons etc. The place is listed with PWC as a licensed massage parlor. In order to obtain a license for their business, they must first apply through the county. The normal massage parlors also have licensed therapists and are proud to display the certs at the entrance.[/QUOTE]

Went to Papaya today. Cici was my provider. Was offered a shower but it was solo, stand up. I asked Cici why they didn't do table showers anymore and she told me they got a ticket for having one. It appears it is unlawful for providers to wash naked mongers on a table. According to Cici, both the house and the provider were fined $300 each for the infraction. Have any of you heard of such a thing?

[QUOTE=Nice 499]Went to Papaya today. Cici was my provider. Was offered a shower but it was solo, stand up. I asked Cici why they didn't do table showers anymore and she told me they got a ticket for having one. It appears it is unlawful for providers to wash naked mongers on a table. According to Cici, both the house and the provider were fined $300 each for the infraction. Have any of you heard of such a thing?[/QUOTE]I haven't heard of fine,but when I check a new place that opens, I always hear a t/s attracts the wrong kind of attention.

Dropped by this well-reported-off-the-beltway establishment one evening this past week. Greeted by Amy: nice looking, 40ish. Showing it in the face, but very nice frame.

Amy's very nice. Lot's of energy and communicates very well. As usual, she ask's if I've visited before. Answer no to this particular place. She was interested in how I had found out about the place, to which I replied I'd heard about it.

After going to the room and settling on an hour she deposits me in the sauna for about five minutes. Afterwords, a nice TS on a cold day. She's very playfull and took great pains to be sure I was clean everywhere.

Once back in the room, she gave a great massage. Making sure along the way that she was making me happy. Firm massage w/back walking. One ding, though. Apparently business had been slow earlier and one of the girls (CoCo) had gone home. She was very apologetic, but she did have to abandon me for about 5-10 minutes in the middle of the session.

Standard NoVa experience w/no up-sell. I appreciate that. She did introduce me to Susie; the other girl on staff that evening and suggested I try a four-hand massage next time. I've never tried that. If anyone has and want's to express an opinion, I'd love to hear it.

Overall good experience. I'll be back. I like this place.

F 6 pleasant

B 7. 5 nice

A 7. nothing unusual. Clean

M 8. She's good

S 6. 5. Would have been better but for the miss noted above

A 9. Great attitude. Nice lady, friendly, good conversation, eager to please

Again, thanks to all for the great info!

[QUOTE=Mspearsva]I think it would depend a great deal on what you do for a living. Teacher, life over, member of Congress not so much. Minister-over, professional athlete (with the exception of golf) ok. TV actor of child show-done for, Late night personality-go back for seconds.[/QUOTE]

Anyone holding a security clearance - life over.

Good luck applying for a job that requires a background check. Even if not convicted, they'll still see your arrest record and not hire you.

Best bet is to be careful. Plain and simple it is not worth it for most people to get caught up in any raid or sting.

The genitals must never be seen by either the one being washed or the one doing the washing.

As soon as Mr. Happy comes out and the provider sees him - the law is violated. As soon as the provider shows nipple or genitals - the law is violated.

Any place that allows the viewing of genitals or female nipples is also suspect of engaging in prostitution and is then suspect of being a bawdy place. Anyone seen inside such a place is suspect of frequenting a bawdy place and therefore subject to arrest and charges.

Take it or leave it - believe it or not - that is the way it is here in the Commonwealth. PWC has decided to crack down on this along with the way they deal with illegal immigrants. The other counties could do the same if they decided to do so.

Again - guilt or innocense has nothing to do with being arrested and charged.

Let's not waste time or space here arguing this issue!

Just know that is how it is and be careful!!!

JJ


[QUOTE=Dr Bombay]I haven't heard of fine,but when I check a new place that opens, I always hear a t/s attracts the wrong kind of attention.[/QUOTE]

There is always the TSA :p

[QUOTE=Guitarman1]Anyone holding a security clearance - life over.

Good luck applying for a job that requires a background check. Even if not convicted, they'll still see your arrest record and not hire you.

Best bet is to be careful. Plain and simple it is not worth it for most people to get caught up in any raid or sting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sleazebum]The genitals must never be seen by either the one being washed or the one doing the washing.

As soon as Mr. Happy comes out and the provider sees him - the law is violated. As soon as the provider shows nipple or genitals - the law is violated.

Any place that allows the viewing of genitals or female nipples is also suspect of engaging in prostitution and is then suspect of being a bawdy place. Anyone seen inside such a place is suspect of frequenting a bawdy place and therefore subject to arrest and charges.

Take it or leave it - believe it or not - that is the way it is here in the Commonwealth. PWC has decided to crack down on this along with the way they deal with illegal immigrants. The other counties could do the same if they decided to do so.

JJ[/QUOTE]

Can you provide some Code sections for this?

[QUOTE=Badboycik]Can you provide some Code sections for this?[/QUOTE][url]http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-347[/url]

§ 18.2-347. Keeping, residing in or frequenting a bawdy place; "bawdy place" defined.

It shall be unlawful for any person to keep any bawdy place, or to reside in or at or visit, for immoral purposes, any such bawdy place. Each and every day such bawdy place shall be kept, resided in or visited, shall constitute a separate offense. In a prosecution under this section the general reputation of the place may be proved.

As used in this Code, "bawdy place" shall mean any place within or without any building or structure which is used or is to be used for lewdness, assignation or prostitution.

Everyone on here should read Virginia's "Morals and Decency":
[url]https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+TOC18020000008000000000000[/url]

Especially read 18.2-361 -- oral sex is a felony in Virginia, even with your wife...

Since it appears everyone is chatting about the law instead of being nice to the ladies.

However. I did see the best MT today. Not an AMP and from a non-Asian country. And nothing like an AMP experience. Just a good massage and a relaxing hour.

But next week. Back to Table Showers and back-walking.

PA

I've always heard that that the way it is.

Made a visit due to some good reports. Saw Coco (AVOID), who is a hot mama but that where the upsell starts. TS and massagi were nice enuff. Then the negotiations began and the turn off begun.

I offered standard fare since she wanted twice as much for the same. I refused. After more promises of how great she is and how well worth it she is, I got frustrated and just left. She asked for a tip and I said you woulda got one if you werent so greedy.

Told Mama on the way out the same. I would not go back.

PC out

See VA code section 18.2 generally, and note section 18.2-390 for the definition of nudity used throughout the section. This is basically the same reason that strippers in this state must wear pasties.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688]Made a visit due to some good reports. Saw Coco (AVOID), who is a hot mama but that where the upsell starts. TS and massagi were nice enuff. Then the negotiations began and the turn off begun.

I offered standard fare since she wanted twice as much for the same. I refused. After more promises of how great she is and how well worth it she is, I got frustrated and just left. She asked for a tip and I said you woulda got one if you werent so greedy.

Told Mama on the way out the same. I would not go back.

PC out[/QUOTE]

Good job on holding your ground!!

If it is the Suzie (Susie) I think you're talking about then yes, you would be well advised to go with the 4 handed massage. I've done that with her before and it is a great experience. She by herself is fantastic. If she is well endowed up top then it is probably the same Suzie.

[QUOTE=Jack Bones]Dropped by this well-reported-off-the-beltway establishment one evening this past week. Greeted by Amy: nice looking, 40ish. Showing it in the face, but very nice frame.

Amy's very nice. Lot's of energy and communicates very well. As usual, she ask's if I've visited before. Answer no to this particular place. She was interested in how I had found out about the place, to which I replied I'd heard about it.

After going to the room and settling on an hour she deposits me in the sauna for about five minutes. Afterwords, a nice TS on a cold day. She's very playfull and took great pains to be sure I was clean everywhere.

Once back in the room, she gave a great massage. Making sure along the way that she was making me happy. Firm massage w/back walking. One ding, though. Apparently business had been slow earlier and one of the girls (CoCo) had gone home. She was very apologetic, but she did have to abandon me for about 5-10 minutes in the middle of the session.

Standard NoVa experience w/no up-sell. I appreciate that. She did introduce me to Susie; the other girl on staff that evening and suggested I try a four-hand massage next time. I've never tried that. If anyone has and want's to express an opinion, I'd love to hear it.

Overall good experience. I'll be back. I like this place.

F 6 pleasant

B 7. 5 nice

A 7. nothing unusual. Clean

M 8. She's good

S 6. 5. Would have been better but for the miss noted above

A 9. Great attitude. Nice lady, friendly, good conversation, eager to please

Again, thanks to all for the great info![/QUOTE]

I hope all will stand up for value and stop letting prices get out od hand. These girls know they are a one shot service and squeeze for what they can get. Some will accept standard tip rather than losing others do not give in and lose all.

Keep up the good value!

Thanks


[QUOTE=Pcpc1688]Made a visit due to some good reports. Saw Coco (AVOID), who is a hot mama but that where the upsell starts. TS and massagi were nice enuff. Then the negotiations began and the turn off begun.

I offered standard fare since she wanted twice as much for the same. I refused. After more promises of how great she is and how well worth it she is, I got frustrated and just left. She asked for a tip and I said you woulda got one if you werent so greedy.

Told Mama on the way out the same. I would not go back.

PC out[/QUOTE]

Went to Green in Sterling. Wendy is a good looking 30-something. Thin, about 5'2" with fake C's. Apathetic table shower. Non-relaxing, and sometimes painful massage and back-walk. But finished with a skillful DC-level finish. PM if you want details.

[rant]This is the reason I rarely visit AMPs any more. Most providers are either good at the massage or the finish (or all too often neither). And if I just care about one or the other I can generally get a better, less expensive, more skillful and pleasant experience from either an escort or a legitimate massage therapist who only focuses on their area of expertise.[/rant]

[QUOTE=Choboman][rant]This is the reason I rarely visit AMPs any more. Most providers are either good at the massage or the finish (or all too often neither). And if I just care about one or the other I can generally get a better, less expensive, more skillful and pleasant experience from either an escort or a legitimate massage therapist who only focuses on their area of expertise.[/rant][/QUOTE]

Well said, Choboman. Well said.

AD

Had some time today and decided to slip out and see Judy or Sarah at CTM. Got there and Judy and Sarah were both seeing clients and asked if I could come back. Judy looked really pretty, but I told her I would come back another day.

Decided to run up to OTC off of Little River Pike. Closed. Used to go here quite a bit when Dee Dee was working here. Pleasant memories.

So, I get back in the car and decide to try Golden Spa which is in the vicinity. Never been and thought I would TOFTT.

Nice and cold outside. Nice and warm inside. I'm greeted by Moon who takes me by the hand and escorts me to my room. Moon is very pretty, has to be in her late 40s, long hair, willowy body, soft not hard, medium height, very pretty skin.

I pay for the hour, get undressed and go to the TS. Nice and hot, soapy, relaxing. Not too bad as showers go.

Towels me off, takes me back to the room, finishes drying me off at which point I assume the position on the table.

Moon has wonderful hands. Very warm. The massage is very good, more therapeutic than sensual. Works the back, neck, arms, buttocks and legs. Very relaxing. Sensual touching leads to NOVA standard. Very nice, very relaxing, very enjoyable.

Moon takes her job seriously. It was very important to her to dry me off as well as help me get dressed. I thought she did a very nice job and would definitely go back.

If you are looking for a nice massage, TS with standard NOVA finish, give Golden Spa a try. I think it is good value.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688]Made a visit due to some good reports. Saw Coco (AVOID), who is a hot mama but that where the upsell starts. TS and massagi were nice enuff. Then the negotiations began and the turn off begun.

I offered standard fare since she wanted twice as much for the same. I refused. After more promises of how great she is and how well worth it she is, I got frustrated and just left. She asked for a tip and I said you woulda got one if you werent so greedy.

Told Mama on the way out the same. I would not go back.

PC out[/QUOTE]When you guys say Upsell (I couldn't find this under the Abbreviation link), does that mean providers asking for more tip or offering higher level of service for more tip?

I have an opportunity to try out a chinese condo girl, and have never done this. Was wondering what the rate for this is? Is it DC rate with $60 at the door or N.Virginia rates of $80 at the door...or is it less because it sa condo?

I can guess what the rest of the rate will be (maybe). Not looking for locations or names, just what I should expect to pay.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Big Daddy Don]Good job on holding your ground!![/QUOTE]


As she was smug enough to ask for a tip for the 4-5 rated massage. I shoulda gave her a Jackson and then I woulda felt .85 worse off rather than .8. She wont be there long I do think. Coco needs to move to Marina del Rey with the $$.5 ladies in CA since her services are so good.

PC out

[QUOTE=Anon Busi]When you guys say Upsell (I couldn't find this under the Abbreviation link), does that mean providers asking for more tip or offering higher level of service for more tip?[/QUOTE]provider asking for more tip. I do not want to sound like I'm ridiculing the providers but there are too many out there that are just like used car salesmen, trying to sell you a car for $10k, when in fact the true value of the car is only $2k LOL

[QUOTE=Allgdag]

Everyone on here should read Virginia's "Morals and Decency":
[url]https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+TOC18020000008000000000000[/url]

Especially read 18.2-361 -- oral sex is a felony in Virginia, even with your wife...[/QUOTE]

Well, trechnically, yes, although I am certain that in light of the Supreme Court's ruling in [i]Lawrence v. Texas[/i], this is no longer enforceable.

However, keeping a bawdy place, or frequenting a bawdy place, is most definitely still enforceable as a criminal offense. But the mere presence of nudity does not complete the elements of "keepuing a bawdy place," so I don't agree with the claim that the moment nipples or cock are exposed, the law has been violated.

However, I do agree that such exposure would be probable cause for arrest. Probable cause is a standard much lower than the "beyond a reasonable doubt" required for conviction. To convict, the Commonwealt must prove to a jury (or a judge in a bench trial) that each and every element of the crime happened, beyond a reasonable doubt. But to arrest, they only need to show a set of facts which would cause a reasonable man of prudent caution to believe that it's probable that a crime is being committed.

I went to ATMB last week.

I got an excellent massage.

As usual.

Anyone else been there recently?