Seeking Arrangement and Other Dating Site Reviews

[QUOTE=Stickman55;5198239]Frankly I don't get it. Sale or No Sale, you spend $75 - $100 and endless hours chasing the same tail that hundreds of others in the state are chasing. What's the point? Are you ending up with something that fell through the cracks and is now your secret honey?! And that $300 for those that promise exclusivity? Do you really buy that? You're talking about women that sell having sex with them. Do you think they have a set of company core values or something.[/QUOTE]Who cares about out of state people chasing them and there is no exclusivity but if you get lucky once in a while then it is worth it.

[QUOTE=Chudakkad;5198584]Who cares about out of state people chasing them and there is no exclusivity but if you get lucky once in a while then it is worth it.[/QUOTE]First of all, I said nothing about Out of State people. CT alone has enough competition for those that are actually a possible roll in the hay. So you're in a big customer pool already even in this small state. Also 75% of what you read on here are accounts of time wasted with dead ends. If that's what you want to with your time go for it. Frankly we've all found some cheap dates even on STG with nothing more than a few texts that I myself was amazed about after. Has that happened often. Of course not. But in the end I'd rather do other things with my time than endless back and worth with the click bait on these sugar baby sites. Some find that fulfilling. I dont.
Also, you wait for this Sale to save a whopping $15 so you can go after girls that many here say want $200 - $300!

[QUOTE=Stickman55;5198664]First of all, I said nothing about Out of State people. CT alone has enough competition for those that are actually a possible roll in the hay. So you're in a big customer pool already even in this small state. Also 75% of what you read on here are accounts of time wasted with dead ends. If that's what you want to with your time go for it. Frankly we've all found some cheap dates even on STG with nothing more than a few texts that I myself was amazed about after. Has that happened often. Of course not. But in the end I'd rather do other things with my time than endless back and worth with the click bait on these sugar baby sites. Some find that fulfilling. I dont.
Also, you wait for this Sale to save a whopping $15 so you can go after girls that many here say want $200 - $300![/QUOTE]Exactly! Invest those $15 is Doge coin.

This one was quite funny. I "offered" her $200 just to see her private pics.

A Little Bit About Myself.

I'm here to meet someone to please / satisfy as long as I'm happy. I'm need a man to help me lease a car since I don't have a man to do so with me. I need help with a down payment. I get what I want and hopefully drive to get dinner and a hotel to celebrate. I'm very discreet if need be. I do NOT like drama. I'm very intelligent and a very dominant young women. I love a man about his business and knows how to make a women happy to get what he wants. I'm funny and love watching movies. If you are not about your money then don't bother. I'm willing to even accept a loan and to sign a promissory not stating I'll pay back the loan every month and sign. Yes I'm read and I do have social media. You wouldn't want a pretty young lady like me walking anymore right daddy?

My Ideal First Date.

Get right I business and even meet me at a dealership to get me where I need to be and back to dinner and a hotel to celebrate how good I look driving.

[QUOTE=Stickman55;5198664]First of all, I said nothing about Out of State people. CT alone has enough competition for those that are actually a possible roll in the hay. So you're in a big customer pool already even in this small state. Also 75% of what you read on here are accounts of time wasted with dead ends. If that's what you want to with your time go for it. Frankly we've all found some cheap dates even on STG with nothing more than a few texts that I myself was amazed about after. Has that happened often. Of course not. But in the end I'd rather do other things with my time than endless back and worth with the click bait on these sugar baby sites. Some find that fulfilling. I dont.
Also, you wait for this Sale to save a whopping $15 so you can go after girls that many here say want $200 - $300![/QUOTE]I don't think you ever met anyone from SA, I know its lot of work but in my opinion its worth it.

[QUOTE=BigBoss203;5198833]Exactly! Invest those $15 is Doge coin.[/QUOTE]Bit coin is better.

[QUOTE=BlueFox141;5196865]This one has only been on a day or two. She sounds really promising, but can't meet right now. I messaged her and she acted very interested in meeting me and suggested an online arrangement until April when her online classes were over. I suggested we text and get to know one another until then. I was blocked immediately. I didn't think she would get back to me that quickly, but luckily I had her profile up on my phone and got a screen shot. Timewaster.

Blue.[/QUOTE]She blocked you because the profile is fake. That's a picture of Beth Spiby.

[QUOTE=Chudakkad;5199676]I don't think you ever met anyone from SA, I know its lot of work but in my opinion its worth it.[/QUOTE]Just to correct you assumptions, I have seen 3 or 4 over the past 3 years or so and I currently see one on a regular basis. Where did I find her and the others? On Backpage and STG of all places, not SA. Gee, who would have thought! Are they less than desirable? Not at all. They happened to have done little posting on both sites, and I caught them at the right time and right price. As you well know, some of the worst on STG try their hand at SA. But there are also some newcomers that are good that try SA after STG (or BP in the old days) thinking they might do better. They usually don't. And if you made the connection before their dreams on SA went unfilled, you've got a good find.

Look, to end this discussion, I certainly understand the thrill of the hunt and what SA has to offer for that. That just doesn't do anything for me when it comes to paying for sex. I have my limits on price and effort and obviously others are different in those respects.

Actually, yes. That's the whole point. You want to avoid the ones that post on STG. That's a completely other species that looks at the entire interaction in a very commercial manner. If you haven't been with a non-STG type, then you don't have a reference point for comparison. Again, if you're happy with STG, then you're good. But sometimes you don't know what you're missing until you experience it. Finally, this would not be the right time to join. I would wait until the end of the pandemic.

[QUOTE=Stickman55;5199905]Are they less than desirable?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DarkClouds;5199970]Actually, yes. That's the whole point. You want to avoid the ones that post on STG. That's a completely other species that looks at the entire interaction in a very commercial manner. If you haven't been with a non-STG type, then you don't have a reference point for comparison. Again, if you're happy with STG, then you're good. But sometimes you don't know what you're missing until you experience it. Finally, this would not be the right time to join. I would wait until the end of the pandemic.[/QUOTE]I know it's double negative so maybe my point eluded you. If you are going to quote me to support your point of view, at least do me the courtesy of including the full quote. Here it is:

"Are they less than desirable? Not at all. " You left out the important part "Not at all".

Read what I said please. The simple point is that just because they are on STG does not automatically put them in a category of appearance, intelligence and performance that is any different than SA or other sugar baby sites. The ones I've found on STG are ones that don't post continuosly (or maybe only did a few times) and are as good as any of the REAL looking ones on SA . And frankly I can see what's on SA and it doesn't provide a reference point for anything that I need to use in my decision making. Thanks anyway, but I wasn't looking for advice when I started my opinion piece about SA. I've been buying sex (yeah that's what you're doing no matter what the website says it's for) for more years than I care to admit, from West Coast to East with a few states in between so I know what works for me.

[QUOTE=Stickman55;5199905]Just to correct you assumptions, I have seen 3 or 4 over the past 3 years or so and I currently see one on a regular basis. Where did I find her and the others? On Backpage and STG of all places, not SA. Gee, who would have thought! Are they less than desirable? Not at all. They happened to have done little posting on both sites, and I caught them at the right time and right price. As you well know, some of the worst on STG try their hand at SA. But there are also some newcomers that are good that try SA after STG (or BP in the old days) thinking they might do better. They usually don't. And if you made the connection before their dreams on SA went unfilled, you've got a good find.

Look, to end this discussion, I certainly understand the thrill of the hunt and what SA has to offer for that. That just doesn't do anything for me when it comes to paying for sex. I have my limits on price and effort and obviously others are different in those respects.[/QUOTE]I think you make some excellent points and like you said, some like the thrill of the hunt. I think that was a very good ending to the discussion, theoretically.

Blue.

So I'm in the mood to see someone new from SA and I have the time to do it in the next couple weeks. Grabbed my burner and went through the numbers of some girls I was chatting with but never sealed the deal because of work issues caused by the pandemic. (Many people have more free time, I have had less). Anyway, I hit up an early thirties woman who has a great body. Former hooters girl, tilted kilt, etc. We had been talking about getting together in November. She seemed nice. She seemed willing. We just couldn't make it happen. Well, no response. I went on her Facebook, no recent updates that I could see. I go to her SA profile. Hadn't logged on in two months. I then google her name. One of the first results is from the state bureau of prisons. A person with the same name, age, and location is currently incarcerated. Another article revealed a woman of the same name, age, and location being arrested with cocaine drug paraphernalia while driving a luxury automobile. Needless to say, I guess I won't be seeing her anytime in the near future.

[QUOTE=Sutigel2;5201232]So I'm in the mood to see someone new from SA and I have the time to do it in the next couple weeks. Grabbed my burner and went through the numbers of some girls I was chatting with but never sealed the deal because of work issues caused by the pandemic. (Many people have more free time, I have had less). Anyway, I hit up an early thirties woman who has a great body. Former hooters girl, tilted kilt, etc. We had been talking about getting together in November. She seemed nice. She seemed willing. We just couldn't make it happen. Well, no response. I went on her Facebook, no recent updates that I could see. I go to her SA profile. Hadn't logged on in two months. I then google her name. One of the first results is from the state bureau of prisons. A person with the same name, age, and location is currently incarcerated. Another article revealed a woman of the same name, age, and location being arrested with cocaine drug paraphernalia while driving a luxury automobile. Needless to say, I guess I won't be seeing her anytime in the near future.[/QUOTE]For the thrill of of it, you could help her bust out then have fugitive sex, like George Costanza. 🙂.

[QUOTE=DarkClouds;5199970]Actually, yes. That's the whole point. You want to avoid the ones that post on STG. That's a completely other species that looks at the entire interaction in a very commercial manner. If you haven't been with a non-STG type, then you don't have a reference point for comparison. Again, if you're happy with STG, then you're good. But sometimes you don't know what you're missing until you experience it. Finally, this would not be the right time to join. I would wait until the end of the pandemic.[/QUOTE]I agree, due to pandemic, this is not the right time to join.

[QUOTE=Stickman55;5200614]

"The simple point is that just because they are on STG does not automatically put them in a category of appearance, intelligence and performance that is any different than SA or other sugar baby sites. The ones I've found on STG are ones that don't post continuosly (or maybe only did a few times) and are as good as any of the REAL looking ones on SA . And frankly I can see what's on SA and it doesn't provide a reference point for anything that I need to use in my decision making. [/QUOTE]Its funny how people put a spin on words to prove something completely inaccurate.

[QUOTE=Chudakkad;5204043]Its funny how people put a spin on words to prove something completely inaccurate.[/QUOTE]I don't need to spin anything to prove a point. I've laid out facts, as I've experienced them, and opinions, that's all. And frankly, the dissatisfied posts on this forum do more than enough to support my opinion. I was simply offering an opinion about spending money on these paywall sugar baby sites. If you support using them, then so be it. I'm sure Brandon Wade, the founder and CEO of SA, had you in mind when he created his business plan and is now smiling all the way to the bank.

[QUOTE=Stickman55;5204458]I don't need to spin anything to prove a point. I've laid out facts, as I've experienced them, and opinions, that's all. And frankly, the dissatisfied posts on this forum do more than enough to support my opinion. I was simply offering an opinion about spending money on these paywall sugar baby sites. If you support using them, then so be it. I'm sure Brandon Wade, the founder and CEO of SA, had you in mind when he created his business plan and is now smiling all the way to the bank.[/QUOTE]People with novel ideas always make money what's wrong with that. If he is laughing all the way to the bank that proves that he has a successful business and people like SA. Your experience may be different from what majority of others have experienced on SA.

Meriden General board, post 1299, talks about "SA LittlexGirlx, Stay Away".

BMD.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bf5cd84f-d384-4369-be5b-38464f3f4a7e[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c0cbf69c-385f-4aad-8f0a-3c1d0aea9379[/URL]

Same girl. Two different profiles simultaneously logged in. And I am aware of the fact that she used to have a third profile.

She's actually a real person, I have confirmed. I don't think she's running a scam. I'm just wondering if anyone has ever met her in person or texted with her, as I have.

As some of you remember, a short time ago, SA cancelled my account. The email from Sa said something to the extent of escorting, bla, bla, is not tolerated and is illegal on t his site. Apparently members sent me messages with 3 digit numbers in the body. I came on here to seek advice on how to set up another account. Well, I did so with another gmail account. (desktop, for both). I was a standard member for a couple of months or so. Today I tried to use a vanilla card to upgrade for the premium, inserted all my info. I was then asked to log in, which I thought was strange. I tried logging in a few times, to no success. I then recieved an email from Sa saying my account has been suspended, and I am not allowed to use their site or pay for their services. I decided to send SA an email. Surprisingly, SA responded quickly. This response said: We have obtained and have verified information about discussion for compensation for incalls, , etc. You are banned from this site and our sister sites. We have the right to report to proper authorities, etc etc. I never used any numerical figures nor many certain key words. Be careful out there!- I actually do think the site is "okay"- Am I done with that site?- TIA.

[QUOTE=Hapcj7;5208074]As some of you remember, a short time ago, SA cancelled my account. The email from Sa said something to the extent of escorting, bla, bla, is not tolerated and is illegal on t his site. Apparently members sent me messages with 3 digit numbers in the body. I came on here to seek advice on how to set up another account. Well, I did so with another gmail account. (desktop, for both). I was a standard member for a couple of months or so. Today I tried to use a vanilla card to upgrade for the premium, inserted all my info. I was then asked to log in, which I thought was strange. I tried logging in a few times, to no success. I then recieved an email from Sa saying my account has been suspended, and I am not allowed to use their site or pay for their services. I decided to send SA an email. Surprisingly, SA responded quickly. This response said: We have obtained and have verified information about discussion for compensation for incalls, , etc. You are banned from this site and our sister sites. We have the right to report to proper authorities, etc etc. I never used any numerical figures nor many certain key words. Be careful out there!- I actually do think the site is "okay"- Am I done with that site?- TIA.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing they're tracking you by your IP address.

Try a different ID and password to SA, different email, preferably not gmail.

Desktops will maintain the same IP. Try from a different IP. A phone or tablet w / modem would work due to changing IPs. Desktop could work with vpn with a USA server.

[QUOTE=BigMacDaddy;5208263]I'm guessing they're tracking you by your IP address.

Try a different ID and password to SA, different email, preferably not gmail.

Desktops will maintain the same IP. Try from a different IP. A phone or tablet w / modem would work due to changing IPs. Desktop could work with vpn with a USA server.[/QUOTE]Agree, I am sure that IP address is part of the criteria they use when they ban someone. You could also try creating a new email and go to Starbucks or someplace with public wifi and sign up again. Just make sure to never login on your home wifi or mobile network.

Of course, that is a royal pain, but it should work. If you are up to renew your phone soon, a new phone should resolve the issue too.

I only ever use digits to give my phone number and stick to general chit chat on the site. Not a guarantee, but the goal is to get the conversation off the site asap.

Since the topic is being discussed, has anybody been successful at recovering their banned account? It seems it is zero tolerance policy.

[QUOTE=BigBoss203;5208666]Since the topic is being discussed, has anybody been successful at recovering their banned account? It seems it is zero tolerance policy.[/QUOTE]Perefect question / discussion. I often wonder how some girls on Sa set up many and or numerous new accounts.

[QUOTE=Hapcj7;5208685]Perefect question / discussion. I often wonder how some girls on Sa set up many and or numerous new accounts.[/QUOTE]I doubt they check the girls accounts unless they get reported. Girls can message for free from what they've told me. Guys need to pay to message.

[QUOTE=Hapcj7;5208685]Perefect question / discussion. I often wonder how some girls on Sa set up many and or numerous new accounts.[/QUOTE]I have one in Middlebury I see from time to time and do dinner with on a regular basis just because we enjoy each other's company. She told me she has a girlfriend who was on SA and made the mistake of quoting a price on the site. She's down in NYC and prices are higher. The guy reported her and her profile was pulled and she was told if she tried to reregister they would contact the police. He must have made a big fuss. I doubt it happens much. I do sometimes tell the story and warn girls that don't want to text to get them to give me a number.

Blue.

[QUOTE=BlueFox141;5213485]I have one in Middlebury I see from time to time and do dinner with on a regular basis just because we enjoy each other's company. She told me she has a girlfriend who was on SA and made the mistake of quoting a price on the site. She's down in NYC and prices are higher. The guy reported her and her profile was pulled and she was told if she tried to reregister they would contact the police. He must have made a big fuss. I doubt it happens much. I do sometimes tell the story and warn girls that don't want to text to get them to give me a number.

Blue.[/QUOTE]I think you mean to say, texting by phone for rates is ok but not on their website messaging system.

The guy who reported her was an idiot and should have been banned, too, for stupidity. It's common sense that you don't PM rates on their website. Phone text or public meet keeps that info away from SA and their liability.

[QUOTE=BlueFox141;5213485]I have one in Middlebury I see from time to time and do dinner with on a regular basis just because we enjoy each other's company. She told me she has a girlfriend who was on SA and made the mistake of quoting a price on the site. She's down in NYC and prices are higher. The guy reported her and her profile was pulled and she was told if she tried to reregister they would contact the police. He must have made a big fuss. I doubt it happens much. I do sometimes tell the story and warn girls that don't want to text to get them to give me a number.

Blue.[/QUOTE]Quick question, but does anyone know if the same IP address will be the same,(that Sa sees) from the same desk top, when signing up to Sa with an aol account or a gmail account, or will they differ?

Also, Blue, the think the "contact the police line" is a generic line Sa adds to their notes for banned members.

[QUOTE=Hapcj7;5213831]Quick question, but does anyone know if the same IP address will be the same,(that Sa sees) from the same desk top, when signing up to Sa with an aol account or a gmail account, or will they differ?

Also, Blue, the think the "contact the police line" is a generic line Sa adds to their notes for banned members.[/QUOTE]The IP is based and given by your internet provider. It has nothing to do with email accounts.

[QUOTE=Hapcj7;5213831]Quick question, but does anyone know if the same IP address will be the same,(that Sa sees) from the same desk top, when signing up to Sa with an aol account or a gmail account, or will they differ?

Also, Blue, the think the "contact the police line" is a generic line Sa adds to their notes for banned members.[/QUOTE]I have been warned / banned I was able to create a new account with a diff email and also I used a Vanilla card

[QUOTE=Chudakkad;5214252]I have been warned / banned I was able to create a new account with a diff email and also I used a Vanilla card[/QUOTE]Hi Chuda, When you say different email, was it 2 of the same, like 2 different gmails, or 2 different aols?. Also, were you able to become a premium member on your new account? Also, what kind of device were you using?...I like desk tops..

[QUOTE=BigMacDaddy;5213744]I think you mean to say, texting by phone for rates is ok but not on their website messaging system.

The guy who reported her was an idiot and should have been banned, too, for stupidity. It's common sense that you don't PM rates on their website. Phone text or public meet keeps that info away from SA and their liability.[/QUOTE]Yes, thank you. I should have said messaged not texted. They don't want to be able to see price negotiations onsite.

Blue.

[QUOTE=Hapcj7;5214952]Hi Chuda, When you say different email, was it 2 of the same, like 2 different gmails, or 2 different aols?. Also, were you able to become a premium member on your new account? Also, what kind of device were you using?...I like desk tops..[/QUOTE]I used two different gmails with different names, they want your membership money, they don't care if you were banned in the past.I used same laptop.

[QUOTE=Chudakkad;5218407]I used two different gmails with different names, they want your membership money, they don't care if you were banned in the past.I used same laptop.[/QUOTE]So, here's what happened to me, in short. I had an Sa account with a gmail email, and recieved messages from Sa members with numbers in them, etc. I was banned for promoting, bla, bla. Then I created another Sa account using a different gmail email, but never payed for a premium account. V- day came along and Sa was doing the 25% discount. I went out and bought a vanilla card, and was excited to read all my unread messages. I input all the card info, then SA asked me to re-sign in. I tried to sign in 2 or 3 times, knowingly I had the correct s / and and p / w, all failing. I then recieved and email from SA stating I was banned. I wrote SA, stating I had a billing / payment issue. They responded with you are banned for promoting, its illegal, bla bla. This was all done using a desk top. Soo, Chud, how do our stories differ?. I'd still like to set up another account, TIA.

[QUOTE=Hapcj7;5218556]So, here's what happened to me, in short. I had an Sa account with a gmail email, and recieved messages from Sa members with numbers in them, etc. I was banned for promoting, bla, bla. Then I created another Sa account using a different gmail email, but never payed for a premium account. V- day came along and Sa was doing the 25% discount. I went out and bought a vanilla card, and was excited to read all my unread messages. I input all the card info, then SA asked me to re-sign in. I tried to sign in 2 or 3 times, knowingly I had the correct s / and and p / w, all failing. I then recieved and email from SA stating I was banned. I wrote SA, stating I had a billing / payment issue. They responded with you are banned for promoting, its illegal, bla bla. This was all done using a desk top. Soo, Chud, how do our stories differ?. I'd still like to set up another account, TIA.[/QUOTE]Could it be the Vanilla card? Maybe SA discovered a pattern that whenever LE is trying to penetrate the website they also use a Vanilla card.

[QUOTE=BBFreak;5218715]Could it be the Vanilla card? Maybe SA discovered a pattern that whenever LE is trying to penetrate the website they also use a Vanilla card.[/QUOTE]Hi there, Hmm, I don't think so. I had used Vanilla cards several times in the past for Sa membership, and from my reading on here, many others have.

[QUOTE=Hapcj7;5218739]Hi there, Hmm, I don't think so. I had used Vanilla cards several times in the past for Sa membership, and from my reading on here, many others have.[/QUOTE]Strange, they waited until you were trying to upgrade your membership to ban you. I can't see how you got into trouble without being able to communicate with anyone. Somehow they just knew you had bad intentions, LOL.

[QUOTE=BBFreak;5219004]Strange, they waited until you were trying to upgrade your membership to ban you. I can't see how you got into trouble without being able to communicate with anyone. Somehow they just knew you had bad intentions, LOL.[/QUOTE]Thats the point. Sa used my first gmail account against me, to ban me from the new second gmail account. Again, my 2nd account was only banned when I paid for a premium upgrade. I was banned from the first account for having numbers in my message box. As Chud said, he has successfully set up 2 different gmail accounts (premium). My guess is they track IP addresses, but Chud set up his accounts with a laptop, I would think similiar to my desktop, as far as tracking IP, s.

[QUOTE=Hapcj7;5219052]Thats the point. Sa used my first gmail account against me, to ban me from the new second gmail account. Again, my 2nd account was only banned when I paid for a premium upgrade. I was banned from the first account for having numbers in my message box. As Chud said, he has successfully set up 2 different gmail accounts (premium). My guess is they track IP addresses, but Chud set up his accounts with a laptop, I would think similiar to my desktop, as far as tracking IP, s.[/QUOTE]Try, yahoo, also use alphbets not numbers.

Guys,

I've used a vanilla GC on seeking for a few years now and for some reason they won't take it anymore.

Has anyone else had this problem?

I've done the same process over again every single time.