[QUOTE=HapHunter;5716344]Mongering Economics!![/QUOTE]It's the walking out the door talk.
I give it another week before one of the guys turns the secret fishing spot into a tourist trap.
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[QUOTE=HapHunter;5716344]Mongering Economics!![/QUOTE]It's the walking out the door talk.
I give it another week before one of the guys turns the secret fishing spot into a tourist trap.
[QUOTE=NewGuyNot;5716503]That's beyond ignorant as fuck.
Vaccines purposes is to stop the spread of a virus. Not lesson its symptoms. You can still get sick, pass the virus. Not to mention the whole process used to make some of these viruses were never approved to use on humans until now. You go ahead an be an experiment, pass on taking a booster shot ever 6 months for rest of my life. This vaccine is garbage.[/QUOTE]When you invent a new delivery technology and create a vaccine, you can spin its use however you want. Until then, stick to what the experts say about this vaccine.
When you say "never approved for use on humans until now", do you grasp how dumb that sounds? Grab a dictionary and lookup "never" , "now" and "approved".
The facts are that the delivery mechanism has 30 years of research behind it, the approval process included a standard human trial, and the end product has safely been given to millions over an extended time period. It saves lives.
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5717051]When you invent a new delivery technology and create a vaccine, you can spin its use however you want. Until then, stick to what the experts say about this vaccine.
When you say "never approved for use on humans until now", do you grasp how dumb that sounds? Grab a dictionary and lookup "never" , "now" and "approved".
The facts are that the delivery mechanism has 30 years of research behind it, the approval process included a standard human trial, and the end product has safely been given to millions over an extended time period. It saves lives.[/QUOTE]Some of these guys who are as ignorant as NewGuyNot just aren't worth the time. America has become a nation of narcissists, an unserious nation. We are undergoing the Death of Expertise at the hands of those who think like him.
[QUOTE=NewGuyNot;5716503]That's beyond ignorant as fuck.
Vaccines purposes is to stop the spread of a virus. Not lesson its symptoms. You can still get sick, pass the virus. Not to mention the whole process used to make some of these viruses were never approved to use on humans until now. You go ahead an be an experiment, pass on taking a booster shot ever 6 months for rest of my life. This vaccine is garbage.[/QUOTE]No vaccine is 100% effective. The polio vaccine is 90% effective, but it did it's job.
[QUOTE=Smokey1955;5711005]I know 100% she's Not using.[/QUOTE]You are either dumb as fuck or just a flat out fucking liar.
[QUOTE=HapHunter;5716344]Probably belongs in the mayhem section; however, relates to GPS and this Sara gal that is the rave within the Detroit Escort section.
Voodo Economics is an economic policy perceived as being unrealistic and ill-advised, in particular a policy of maintaining or increasing levels of public spending while reducing taxation.
In our world my definition of Mongering Economics is a policy where the first brain maintains control over the second brain so as to not cause GPS to a very good provider.
[b]In this situation Sara could easily develop GPS if we do not exercise good Mongering Economics.[/b]
With that said, keep exercising good judgement when seeing any provider, and hopefully some handler does not make his way into Sara's world. Otherwise we will be reading about her in the rip-off section six weeks to six months from now.
Hobby safe and exercise some good Mongering Economics!![/QUOTE]I don't have a problem paying a hooker a fair price for good service, I do have a problem paying a hooker that use to be happy making 40 but now wants 100 or more because she has a phone now and the guy promoting her covers for drug addiction.
[QUOTE=NewGuyNot;5716503]That's beyond ignorant as fuck.
Vaccines purposes is to stop the spread of a virus. Not lesson its symptoms. You can still get sick, pass the virus. Not to mention the whole process used to make some of these viruses were never approved to use on humans until now. You go ahead an be an experiment, pass on taking a booster shot ever 6 months for rest of my life. This vaccine is garbage.[/QUOTE]You're probably one of these guys afraid of putting the vaccine in your body, but put gallons of alcohol and tons of sugar in your body every year. Not worried about that?
[QUOTE=EDPills;5718017]You're probably one of these guys afraid of putting the vaccine in your body, but put gallons of alcohol and tons of sugar in your body every year. Not worried about that?[/QUOTE]Assume much? Just to entertain your ignorance. I don't drink. And I definitely don't drink the kool aid. Fuck that vaccine. I'll never take it. Thanks for being test subjects. BTW who the fuck cares who puts what in their body? This whole forum is about taking advantages of people on drugs. Do you question your streetwalkers like me? LOL sugar! Dumbass dude really.
[QUOTE=EDPills;5718017]You're probably one of these guys afraid of putting the vaccine in your body, but put gallons of alcohol and tons of sugar in your body every year. Not worried about that?[/QUOTE]I know a hooker that's dead set against getting the vaccine, but shoots dope daily. I'm sure that dope is FDA approved.
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5717051]When you invent a new delivery technology and create a vaccine, you can spin its use however you want. Until then, stick to what the experts say about this vaccine.
When you say "never approved for use on humans until now", do you grasp how dumb that sounds? Grab a dictionary and lookup "never" , "now" and "approved".
The facts are that the delivery mechanism has 30 years of research behind it, the approval process included a standard human trial, and the end product has safely been given to millions over an extended time period. It saves lives.[/QUOTE]The process of the vaccine has never been approved on humans only on animals. Only one company is using approved technology. Look it up dumbass.
[QUOTE=NewGuyNot;5720472]Yes I've had all that. Had a 100 weekend sleepover fuckfests. Free sex. Dude I have 2 20 somethings living with me. I don't have to pay shit. Since my monger days take me back to the early 90's and I'm barely 55. I've done it all. Countless arrangements with woman. Dozens have lived with me because I'm cool as fuck. You don't know shit about me. Stop assuming you know anything about anyone.[/QUOTE]Did I strike a nerve, new guy? That reply to you I wrote was dated the day after Christmas. It's been two whole weeks since. Did you miss it cause one of your two Medicaid nurses was sitting on your face that day?
I wasn't assuming I knew you. I was simply retorting your unflinching hatred towards SW mongers. I seriously don't give two shits about how many kidnapped college coeds you keep chambered in your basement either, and please don't try to prove it to me. You've been bragging about this shit for a while on more than one thread, and you come off as lame as an unintended result.
I especially love the "I have two 20 somethings and I don't have to pay shit" line. Ever consider a hip hop career? Rappers get paid to say dumb shit nobody believes.
[QUOTE=NewGuyNot;5720491]The process of the vaccine has never been approved on humans only on animals. Only one company is using approved technology. Look it up dumbass.[/QUOTE]It's approved now, with no measurable negative effects.
[QUOTE=EDPills;5720786]It's approved now, with no measurable negative effects.[/QUOTE]Fwiw, I have a lifelong friend who is a research scientist in Connecticut who has been with Pfizer for over 20 years. He works in the brain group (Alzheimer's and dementia). He didn't allow his family to be vaccinated and advised all of us not to get vaccinated but to allow natural immunity to take its course if we are infected. He did however say if you were at risk because of poor health or high risk for some reason then you might be better off trying the shots. I chose to get the vaccine and don't regret it. To each his own.
[QUOTE=NewGuyNot;5720491]The process of the vaccine has never been approved on humans only on animals. Only one company is using approved technology. Look it up dumbass.[/QUOTE]I did, long ago. The fact that the various vaccines are promoted by the CDC, All State Health Departments, all our local hospital systems and have been given to millions kinda suggests they are approved. Do you own a television?
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5720853]I did, long ago. The fact that the various vaccines are promoted by the CDC, All State Health Departments, all our local hospital systems and have been given to millions kinda suggests they are approved. Do you own a television?[/QUOTE]Concur. Over 5 Billion doses given. Negligiable issues.
Meanwhile the hospitals are filled witht the unvaccinated. Ditto the morgues.
Having a discussion with individuals as ignorant as NewGuyNot, just isn't worth the bandwidth, figuratively and literally.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5708811]I sell enterprise software, typically the deal size is 1 to 2 M $ and I can't negotiate rates with strippers. I am dressed up, not drunk, smell good, buy girls drinks, and still can't get a decent service.
Who is in for a group visit, 4 of us get a table, get bottle service and then start negotiation with the girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jay23;5726336]I wanted to see what shows up on AMEX when you spend money at a strip bar, so before putting it on the corporate card, ran it on my personal AMEX Platinum and got the following.
COLISEUM.
11300 EAST 8 MILE RD.
DETROIT.
MI.
48205.
(248) 231-1803.
[URL]coliseum8mile.com[/URL]
What happened to the days when these charges showed up under some other restaurant names.[/QUOTE]You seem to like to post / brag about your financial status a lot. You couldn't just say credit card statement, you had to let everyone know you had an "AMEX Platinum" card, allegedly. When a guy acts like he's got money on a site like this he's usually dead ass broke and living in his moms basement.
[QUOTE=Smokey1955;5726304]I believe you posted that. I've seen every square inch of her and there's not a single needle mark. Someone else posted girls shoot between there toes, which if you've ever spent any time with a heroin user you'd know is not an option. They use every vein in there body because you can't shoot. In the same spot for Any length of time.[/QUOTE]No I didn't, it was another member that posted it.
Not only are you captain white knighting for this junkie hooker, you're an old fool for believing every word that comes out of her mouth.
[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5729243]You seem to like to post / brag about your financial status a lot. You couldn't just say credit card statement, you had to let everyone know you had an "AMEX Platinum" card, allegedly. When a guy acts like he's got money on a site like this he's usually dead ass broke and living in his moms basement.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5729288]
Not only are you captain white knighting for this junkie hooker, you're an old fool for believing every word that comes out of her mouth.[/QUOTE]You sure like to criticize others and make assumptions on hookers you haven't met & dates you haven't participated in. All while while not leaving reports about your activities, except for one quite a while ago. Awesome job of offering nothing of value on this site.
[QUOTE=Cargo5;5729375]Hi guys,
Save your money avoid this person Christina. She is disgusting and ugly fat women.
She is not one in the pictures as she post in adult search. She will steal your money.
Total waste of time.
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/michigan/detroit/female-escorts/2703847[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't feel sorry for any monger without an once of common sense. Learn how to use Google Image.
[QUOTE=WhiteBrik;5729953]Pot / Kettle[/QUOTE]You need to learn the meaning of Pot / Kettle. Google it.
[QUOTE=WhiteBrik;5729953]You sure like to criticize others[/QUOTE]Only when it's warranted.
[QUOTE=WhiteBrik;5729953]and make assumptions on hookers you haven't met & dates you haven't participated in[/QUOTE]You have no idea who I've met or who I haven't met, just because I haven't reviewed her don't assume I haven't seen her. But for the sake of argument lets say I haven't met Sara. Any monger with more then a week on the job and an ounce of common sense should know that a woman selling pussy and living in that area is using hard drugs.
[QUOTE=WhiteBrik;5729953]All while while not leaving reports about your activities, except for one quite a while ago. Awesome job of offering nothing of value on this site.[/QUOTE]So I should post about stripper X at club Y so some smuck can fuck it up for me, or maybe I should post a few pics of SA girls I've seen so they can ghost me, or maybe I should post about the low volume SW that I see for 40 so guys can tell her she's worth so much more and give her GPS. No thanks, I don't think I'll be posting that kind of info anytime soon.
I've made more then my share of posts like this that help someone out - [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3741-General-Reports&p=5730204&viewfull=1#post5730204[/URL]
Now please, STFU.
[QUOTE=WhiteBrik;5709320]I kind of thought that was the purpose of the Escort forum?[/QUOTE]The purpose of this site is to produce revenue for the person (s) that own it, do you see all the banner ads? Sharing info comes second, I do my part with every click of the mouse (that helps the site sell banner ads).
WhiteBrik, were you in Warren or not, you never replied. I just wanted to know who was being a dumb-ass you or I.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4499-Escort-Reports&p=5708712&viewfull=1#post5708712[/URL]
[QUOTE=BrkFrStrumpets;5732097][b]Budget crash pads[/b]
Look at the trailer parks in south Warren.
A lot of times trailers are free or very inexpensive. A couple of mongers could do a no-frills trailer remodel in 1 weekend. 10 gal. HW tank. A microwave is fine. Use spray adhesive and glue cheap carpet to the walls.
The place will need utilities but they don't have to be on all the time. A WiFi enabled space heater fixes that. Dial-up the heat from an app on the way over.
I did a little googling and found lot rent with the etc. Might be less than $400.00/ mo right off 8 Mile,. That's $50.00 a week.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BrkFrStrumpets;5730143][b]The box brought us here. [/b]
But can you think outside of the box? First thing that comes to mind.
An inexpensive climate controlled 24 hour access storage unit would fit the bill nicely. Throw some lawn chairs into the unit. Maybe some used gymnastics equipment and a black light, or plain hay bales. Acoustic foam panels will give that high-end 'feel', no need with hay bales. A small bar with red Solo cups in the corner. Just bring ice.
Do you have someone to split costs with?
Upgrade and lease a commercial cafe or spacette from an urban innovator. Russell Industrial Center is central and lease small spaces. Classy.[/QUOTE]Please stop posting this dumb shit.
[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5730271]WhiteBrik, were you in Warren or not, you never replied. I just wanted to know who was being a dumb-ass you or I.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4499-Escort-Reports&p=5708712&viewfull=1#post5708712[/URL][/QUOTE]I was not in Warren. Contrary to popular belief, there are mongers in Macomb county. Legit providers should be shared, If it lessens the chance of LE entanglement. That is why I post reviews. They aren't rock stars by any means but they are legit. No activity in this hobby will prevent LE contact but sharing info may lessen the chance.
[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5730261]The purpose of this site is to produce revenue for the person (s) that own it, do you see all the banner ads? Sharing info comes second, I do my part with every click of the mouse (that helps the site sell banner ads).[/QUOTE]The purpose for the general patrons of this site is to pass along info, not parrot back or regurgitate info already posted dozens of times if not more. 'Hookers lie' 'They all use dope' Check your comment below of 'Any monger with more then a week on the job and an ounce of common sense' doesn't need your lame ass advise.
[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5730244]You need to learn the meaning of Pot / Kettle. Google it.
Only when it's warranted.
You have no idea who I've met or who I haven't met, just because I haven't reviewed her don't assume I haven't seen her. But for the sake of argument lets say I haven't met Sara. Any monger with more then a week on the job and an ounce of common sense should know that a woman selling pussy and living in that area is using hard drugs.
So I should post about stripper X at club Y so some smuck can fuck it up for me, or maybe I should post a few pics of SA girls I've seen so they can ghost me, or maybe I should post about the low volume SW that I see for 40 so guys can tell her she's worth so much more and give her GPS. No thanks, I don't think I'll be posting that kind of info anytime soon.
I've made more then my share of posts like this that help someone out - [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3741-General-Reports&p=5730204&viewfull=1#post5730204[/URL]
Now please, STFU.[/QUOTE]Passive aggressive much? STFU then post 2 more comments to me. Checking your one post that helps out. Wow, good job, Regurgitating info all ready posted on here multiple times. Be creative leave some reviews for girls you've seen otherwise your useless commentary just clogs up the page.
Now, I'm done with you and will check reports from people that actually do something on this page.
Off ya Fuck.
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The fact I'll just come out and say it: From my long history running this forum, the vast majority of these accusations are authored by ex-boyfriends, ex-clients, competitors, and other individuals with a grudge who post the accusations solely to disparage their "target".
But nevertheless, let's follow the logic:
1. How exactly do you know that the individual is cooperating with LE? From my perspective, the only way I can imagine that you would know this would be if you were "in the room" at the time, which makes you either LE or an imformant yourself.
2. From experience, many of these accusations are substantiated solely by the author having witnessed the individual talking to cops on the street, which is not in and of itself sufficient evidence of anything. If you're claiming that as the source of your accusation, then every person who has been given a traffic ticket is also cooperating with LE. It just doesn't wash.
3. Nevertheless, let's assume that the individual you mentioned is in fact "working with LE". OK, so what? What exactly are they going to tell them? That they fucked some guy for money? I've never heard of any individual being prosecuted for engaging in commercial sex based on the testimony of a street prostitute. It just doesn't make any sense. Can you imagine the scene in the courtroom where a jury is listening to some street prostitute on a witness stand pointing at some average Joe and claiming "He paid me for sex!". It's just laughable.
Like I said, so what?
The bottom line: Don't waste my time posting this sort of stupidity in my forum.
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Dude, what are you crying about. You didn't get banned, you didn't get put on moderation, even if you got an infraction, BFD. It's blue text on a screen, get over it.
[QUOTE=WhiteBrik;5732442]It sill applies pot / kettle [/QUOTE]No it doesn't you dumb-ass. If I was a white knight and called someone out for being a white knight then it would apply.
[QUOTE=WhiteBrik;5706565]Hotel off Van Dyke, and of the city of Warren. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WhiteBrik;5732442]I was not in Warren.[/QUOTE]You're such a dumb-ass you forgot what you posted two weeks ago.
Now go home and get your fucking shine-box.
So it's been a year, are any of you Biden voters having buyers remorse?
[QUOTE=WhiteBrik;5732442]I was not in Warren. Contrary to popular belief, there are mongers in Macomb county. Legit providers should be shared, If it lessens the chance of LE entanglement. That is why I post reviews. They aren't rock stars by any means but they are legit. No activity in this hobby will prevent LE contact but sharing info may lessen the chance.
The purpose for the general patrons of this site is to pass along info, not parrot back or regurgitate info already posted dozens of times if not more. 'Hookers lie' 'They all use dope' Check your comment below of 'Any monger with more then a week on the job and an ounce of common sense' doesn't need your lame ass advise.
Passive aggressive much? STFU then post 2 more comments to me. Checking your one post that helps out. Wow, good job, Regurgitating info all ready posted on here multiple times. Be creative leave some reviews for girls you've seen otherwise your useless commentary just clogs up the page.
Now, I'm done with you and will check reports from people that actually do something on this page.
Off ya Fuck.[/QUOTE]Off ya fuck. Lmao I like that. Got to start using that one 👍.
[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5735926]So it's been a year, are any of you Biden voters having buyers remorse?[/QUOTE]If not, they should. The condition of this country has never been worse. Do you know headsup313? You have very similar writing styles. I say that's a good thing.
[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5735926]So it's been a year, are any of you Biden voters having buyers remorse?[/QUOTE]Biden voters are idiots and they will never speak up because there is not one thing to brag about. Trump may have been a loud mouthed blow hard but his policies were awesome.
[QUOTE=Tommy101;5736696]Biden voters are idiots and they will never speak up because there is not one thing to brag about. Trump may have been a loud mouthed blow hard but his policies were awesome.[/QUOTE]Liberal left the's are more likely to ignore prostitution, than Christian right leaning "family" men. Just sayin.
I just want to let everyone know what they already do, be careful with these girls. Not to speak badly about them but most are on drugs, and they can't be trusted. Let them know what you want before going in so there's no mistakes and don't let them put the money away until after. Just saying because I had a very bad experience recently, didn't lose clams but the scene here doesn't have much to offer for me at the moment.
[QUOTE=CommonSteve666;5736072]If not, they should. The condition of this country has never been worse. Do you know headsup313? You have very similar writing styles. I say that's a good thing.[/QUOTE]There is probably very little that any president has ever done or can do that will have an immediate or short term effect on our everyday way of life. The state of the world now is due to COVID. Not Biden. The state of the world in 2002 and since was due to 911. Not Bush. No one person, especially these 70 year old geriatric white men we keep putting in charge has any great ideas. Trumps policies were not his. Bidens policies are not his. It's about what can pass in the legislature depending whose in control.
The president should be looked at as a symbol and a figure head. Not some all knowing supreme leader. A representative. In that regard, Trump represented the worst of us. You can't argue that. Biden represents absent minded senility. Fuck both of them. When will we actually get a good person with good ideas to vote for. The lesser of 2 evils we always get stuck with is bullshit.
Anybody with an actual brain would never run for president that's the problem. But let's not blame the state of the world on someone with less than 1 year in office. The state of the world is because their is a predominance of low life lazy assholes everywhere you turn. One person no matter no matter how great can policy his way around the idiots in the world around us. You want better? Be better. And make everyone in your life be better. Don't rely on some 70 year old to make your life better.
[QUOTE=MidwestMayhem;5737107]I just want to let everyone know what they already do, be careful with these girls. Not to speak badly about them but most are on drugs, and they can't be trusted. Let them know what you want before going in so there's no mistakes and don't let them put the money away until after. Just saying because I had a very bad experience recently, didn't lose clams but the scene here doesn't have much to offer for me at the moment.[/QUOTE]You need to learn what thread to post this dumb shit in, this is the fight thread.
[QUOTE=CommonSteve666;5736072]If not, they should. The condition of this country has never been worse. Do you know headsup313? You have very similar writing styles. I say that's a good thing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5737235]The state of the world now is due to COVID. Not Biden.[/QUOTE]CommonSteve666 said "condition of this country" not the world. The state of this country is Biden's fault, he's the one running it. If this site went to shit it would be the admins fault, he's the one running it. If Ford Motor Company went out of business it would be Bill Ford's fault.
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5737235]But let's not blame the [b]state of the world[/b] on someone with less than 1 year in office. Don't rely on some 70 year old to make your life better.[/QUOTE]Again, it's the state of the country not the world.
Sure Biden's only been running the country for a year, but he's been in politics for almost 50 years, 8 of them as VP. You can't play the NFG (new fucking guy) card.
P.S. Biden is 79 not 70.
[QUOTE=RoadHead;5736914]Liberal left the's are more likely to ignore prostitution, than Christian right leaning "family" men. Just sayin.[/QUOTE]Lets see, ignore prostitution or ignore border security. I'll take safe borders for a 100 Alex.
You also can't buy pussy if you're paying 5 dollars a gallon for gas, 10 dollars for a 2X4, or 8 dollars a pound for hamburger.
[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5737600]CommonSteve666 said "condition of this country" not the world. The state of this country is Biden's fault, he's the one running it. If this site went to shit it would be the admins fault, he's the one running it. If Ford Motor Company went out of business it would be Bill Ford's fault.[/QUOTE]I say the issues with this board are the assholes who don't contribute, or read or use common sense. That's not admin. This board will fail as more and more guts stop actively participating, not because of admin. And what exactly is the state of our country? Inflation (global supply chain), lack of workers (lazy greedy workers who even when paid top dollar don't show up to work or are slow and don't give a fuck when they do), what exactly are we talking about. This country is NEVER in a good place there is always some social / political / economical / environmental issue going on. Last I checked, there are WAY more republican agenda items being enacted (voting laws, abortion rights, gun rights) than any "Biden" agenda initiatives. Interesting how Biden gets criticized for accomplishing nothing yet blamed for how things are.
If the state of the country and the state of the world is shit right now it's not Bidens failed policies or Trumps failed policies is every single one of us asshole mf's on here not doing what is right to do everyday for the greater good. Whether it's not getting vaccinated, not isolating when you know your ass is sick, bring a lazy fuck at McDonald's making $15 an hour and taking your sweet as time or not showing up for your interview, letting product sit on a truck at Home Depot while the shelves are empty or only delivering my mail every couple of days. That's the state of the world around me. Biden has absolutely nothing to do with that shit. It's either you, your brother, your kid, your friend who needs to get their head out of their ass and start giving a shit and start holding themselves accountable for their lives. Stop being a pussy and blaming everyone else.