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But I can assure you that its not her in the pix. In fact, the initial pix she had on her site a while back ago are quite different than the ones she's currently posting. I have seen her also and knew after that visit that I wouldn't be back. But you know, it really is no biggy b/c plenty of the ladies do the same thing. Guess I would too esp since one day when you want to get out of this biz, you don't want the future hubby to find out what you've been doing or in case you want to go into politics, you don't want this to bite ya. So, all in all Ms. V, if you want to use fake pix, have at it! It won't be the 1st nor the last. Personally, I like when the ladies use non-glamorized pix. If you want to wear makeup, that's their choice but please, no glamor shots.

One girl visited here recently w/ a 404 area code; can't think of her name now but she declared that the pix was of her and to tell the truth, it would almost fool ya as it was somewhat close. She cont'd to deny that it was someone else but I just wasn't going to be fooled and then she finally came out and said that they weren't really her pix. I knew it but you know, people can tell a lie so convincingly that if you're not careful, they'll have you fooled too.

And you're right, 100 is probably not that bad. At least she does give that option. Some of these ladies are trying not to drop their prices but believe me, I think they're wising up. Even Kendra on Ec.com has 100 rates and I could never get her to lower them but you know, they are being undercut and its just too funny. They are finally coming off of the high horse!

Guess they are understanding that, we too, have bills to pay and when our lifestyle becomes compromised, we don't donate that kind of loot; 200+ that is.

[QUOTE=Big Pun3225]I believe those pics are her, I thought I saw them before un-edited but I can't find them. As mentioned- she is photogenic- she has a few modeling web pages and also has a ton of pics on her my space account.

Do I think she is super model Hot? NO

Do I think she is extremely hot for what is usually in Jacksonville for that price point? ABSOLUTELY

I've only saw her once and I thought the service was OK- nothing spectacular- hence the no 2nd visit.

As said in the car industry- "There's a seat for every ass. "[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jax411]More than likely, its probably you! Dumb you say? Well, I have a college degree and make good $ and doing quite well for myself. As far as Phillips hywy; you have just insulted the guys on here that does frequent that area and to tell you the truth, I have seen better out there than Ms. Vanessa. Honestly, I wish it were true that I didn't see her; that way, I'd have 100 in my pocket right now; + the gas burned! That would be nice! If you think you are disguising yourself hiding behind the name Craig; you're not! Guess you're trying to help yourself out 'eh. Oh well. Its just my opinion and that's what this board is for baby. You say I would do nothing if I was standing before you? How do you know? As a matter of fact, you are correct because intelligent people don't have to wage physical war; I can use my mouth and my brains baby. Of course you're just running your mouth too cause I am sure if I was that type, you couldn't handle it!

Anyway, anyone that wants to see Ms V, go ahead. Wouldn't bother me not one bit! LOL! I mean, it wouldn't take nor add anything to me! Please! You're a joke! Why would I have to lie on her. I have no vendetta regarding her but you're a liar and the truth aint in ya! Those pix are fake and you should know that if you've ever seen her! Unless you're her! LOL

Now Sicily, not trying to drag you into this but honestly; tell the guys, are those pix Vanessa. If you look on the EC.com site (if the 1st ones are still there), the pix are quite different. But hey, no worries, most of these girl post fake pix! It at least gets us to the door and I guess if one is thinking w/ the wrong head, he'll stay! Those are her pix! LOL! Now you know you're lying now! Please; don't make me sneeze![/QUOTE]The pics of vanessa that don't show her face may be hers or not. We will never know with any certinty. We all know those glamour shots can make a plain jane in quite a desirable babe.

All in all tho, I believe the pics are of vanessa and more to the point. I believe vanessa is a freaking Beautiful girl.

Its obvious she isn't you're type(weirdo). LOL, j/k.

Yea, Everyone has their own opinon and different strokes for dif folks.

Buy damn, she is a very stunning girl.

[QUOTE=Jax411]You know, this is why its important to be honest about providers. Its seems that as soon as I called Alix out on the out-dated pix, she came clean and posted more recent pix- pix that truly reflect her current looks. Not bad looking but certainly the current pix shows someone of a different size. face looks older for some reason.

Anyway, Thanks ALix for coming clean!

G[/QUOTE]Youre reading too much into her pics. Actually, her prior pics are of her and look exactly like her.

I would even say that her prior pics look slightly more like how she looks in person.

You take some pics too literal and assume too much. Girls always dress upa dn get pretty for pics, they dont always look that good or feel so good when they have to do the deed.

I bet you caN TAKE A PIC TODAY AND 7 MONTHS from now you will look slightly different.

Yea, we all grow older and either fatter or skinnier, but not by much in a short span and these girls arent gonna take new pics every 6 months for a john. Just aint gonna happen.

So, bottom line, see the pics, get happy but not overly happy, expect the worse, hope for the best.

One thing we all know is that you're probably her pimp! Go and get a real job and stop pimping out the ladies! All mouth! LOL!

And oh! It don't matter because I wouldn't see her again if she gave me 10! As someone on her said, they won't even repeat and guess what? I concur! You say just like a woman! Are you mad because someone gave an honest review and called her out? Well, tell you what! Post accurate pix without all the glamor and perhaps then we'd see you and any of them as an honest provider. So much deception! I don't donate my $ for deception! I donate it for a nice, clean and decent provider! There are a few out there who just want to make a living you know. Anyway, continue with your name calling; don't bother me as I told it like it was and I won't take it back! LOL

Get a life looser! LOL

[QUOTE=Craigs2468]Just like a woman and bitching. Doesn't know what he is talking about. Calling me a provider shows how stupid one can be. Well from what I know here you are full of BS. Vanessa really said you were too small and you got mad. She had never seen such a short skinny one before. So I guess Girlyman411 will stick. Since you are much closer to being a female than a man. Lmfao![/QUOTE]

She took are her but they are glamour shots. I can tell they are hers. So I have no problem saying they (the 1st ones are her); however, the latest ones are not. Not sure why the change but of course thats her prerogative. Guess she just wasn't my type- call me strange! LOL

Anyway, as I said, she certainly isn't the worse on the escort site but I guess after looking at the initial pix then going to see her kind of let me down. Perhaps my expectations were too high. Since that time, however, I have learned to tone down my expectations but just thought I'd give an honest assessment from my point of view. Heck, I have seen reviews on ladies that I have at least seen in person (no session) and I wonder was the person drinking or something who wrote the review.

But you know, if ever there was a very true saying, this is one of them:

"there is someone for everyone"

I believe this thru and thru. Thanks

[QUOTE=Sicily]Youre reading too much into her pics. Actually, her prior pics are of her and look exactly like her.

I would even say that her prior pics look slightly more like how she looks in person.

You take some pics too literal and assume too much. Girls always dress upa dn get pretty for pics, they dont always look that good or feel so good when they have to do the deed.

I bet you caN TAKE A PIC TODAY AND 7 MONTHS from now you will look slightly different.

Yea, we all grow older and either fatter or skinnier, but not by much in a short span and these girls arent gonna take new pics every 6 months for a john. Just aint gonna happen.

So, bottom line, see the pics, get happy but not overly happy, expect the worse, hope for the best.[/QUOTE]

I don't think her pictures are fake, just dishonest. They are clearly professionally taken and designed to make her look better than she is. I find that the majority of women in the business do this. Shes not a bad looking girl by any means just, in my personal opinion, shes not worth the rate she charges.

make sure before you go see anyone you have not seen before and there are no reviews that you never ask for illegal services over the phone.

see if she is willing to get comfortable before you do anything else; usually leo's little sister will not! i repeat, will not!

they typically stay dressed.

don't be fooled by the fact that there are no doors in the rooms that lead to the adjacent room; they don't use these type hotels all the time. don't know what they are called.

if she refuses to get comfortable (some legits ones won't initially); tell her to at least get in a bikini/undergarments and give you a body rub (not massage as she likely doesn't have lmt)

don't let them fool you with the lingerie routine where they have it on the bed or hanging on a hanger; they must have it on; 99. 9% won't!

remember, anything that is of monetary value that is exchanged for illegit services can get you a trip downtown- e. g. i will give you a pack of cigarettes if you do this or that. canned!

sometimes its better to leave your donation in the car and come up and assess the situation 1st b/c if they catch u, they at least won't have your loot.

if they start out aggressively trying to get you to talk about services in the same company of $ (esp since they don't even know you)- be ready to walk.

if they tell you they have a friend who is **** and if you would like to do a double- no! sometimes they do this so they can get you on another charge (card).

never bring illegit paraphernalia to appts; you don't know who is on the other side of the door. another charge (card)

if there are notices out for leo to pick you up and you go to an appt and don't fall for the trick in the room, sometimes they will follow you to your car to look at your license plate to see if they can get you that way. so if you have a notice out for your arr-t, don't go!

normally, leo's sister won't get comfortable as i mentioned above but this doesn't work well for the women as leo's brothers can get in the shower with them and then some.

if you are on the street, tell the lady you'd like to take her to get something to eat; usually they will come to your side at a distance but won't get in and will try to get you to say something to get you in a jam!. if its leo's sister! don't do the you show me and i show you while she's standing outside.

when in doubt, always tell yourself that whatever one can do legally in a stripclub the same can be done behind closed doors like lap dance, modeling, etc. stick to this script and u'll be fine. one time i knew i had answered well as i took a mental inventory of everything i said and they tried to trip me up, so i told them i had to go to atm to get $- did this so i wouldn't slip up and just before i left, they told me how good i did and showed me their id! man she looked nice!

don't put stupid crap in an email or text message to the girl then go to appt b/c it may not be necessary to get you to say something at this point as they have it in the message.

remember, say to yourself, "how does what i just said will sound to judge judy? ". if it sounds like something that will jam u, don't say it.

there is a law or something that if they jam you and you can prove that you are a jax resident (valid lic and home address etc) you can ask for something like a "notice to appear" and they won't be able to take you in; someone on here may know more about this; now this won't necessarily keep you out of shame shame shame but at least you won't have to go w/ them.

well, if i missed something or anyone can add thereto, speak on!

thanks for this info jax411. especially when leo has been active in this forum recently. have you noticed those new members? watch out. guys and escorts be careful with the info you provide to the newbies and to some new "seniors" that got seniority recently just by posting a lot of stupid things. just trust the seniors than have been around for more than a year. be safe.


[quote=jax411]make sure before you go see anyone you have not seen before and there are no reviews that you never ask for illegal services over the phone.

see if she is willing to get comfortable before you do anything else; usually leo's little sister will not! i repeat, will not!

they typically stay dressed.

don't be fooled by the fact that there are no doors in the rooms that lead to the adjacent room; they don't use these type hotels all the time. don't know what they are called.

if she refuses to get comfortable (some legits ones won't initially); tell her to at least get in a bikini/undergarments and give you a body rub (not massage as she likely doesn't have lmt)

don't let them fool you with the lingerie routine where they have it on the bed or hanging on a hanger; they must have it on; 99. 9% won't!

remember, anything that is of monetary value that is exchanged for illegit services can get you a trip downtown- e. g. i will give you a pack of cigarettes if you do this or that. canned!

sometimes its better to leave your donation in the car and come up and assess the situation 1st b/c if they catch u, they at least won't have your loot.

if they start out aggressively trying to get you to talk about services in the same company of $ (esp since they don't even know you)- be ready to walk.

if they tell you they have a friend who is **** and if you would like to do a double- no! sometimes they do this so they can get you on another charge (card).

never bring illegit paraphernalia to appts; you don't know who is on the other side of the door. another charge (card)

if there are notices out for leo to pick you up and you go to an appt and don't fall for the trick in the room, sometimes they will follow you to your car to look at your license plate to see if they can get you that way. so if you have a notice out for your arr-t, don't go!

normally, leo's sister won't get comfortable as i mentioned above but this doesn't work well for the women as leo's brothers can get in the shower with them and then some.

if you are on the street, tell the lady you'd like to take her to get something to eat; usually they will come to your side at a distance but won't get in and will try to get you to say something to get you in a jam!. if its leo's sister! don't do the you show me and i show you while she's standing outside.

when in doubt, always tell yourself that whatever one can do legally in a stripclub the same can be done behind closed doors like lap dance, modeling, etc. stick to this script and u'll be fine. one time i knew i had answered well as i took a mental inventory of everything i said and they tried to trip me up, so i told them i had to go to atm to get $- did this so i wouldn't slip up and just before i left, they told me how good i did and showed me their id! man she looked nice!

don't put stupid crap in an email or text message to the girl then go to appt b/c it may not be necessary to get you to say something at this point as they have it in the message.

remember, say to yourself, "how does what i just said will sound to judge judy? ". if it sounds like something that will jam u, don't say it.

there is a law or something that if they jam you and you can prove that you are a jax resident (valid lic and home address etc) you can ask for something like a "notice to appear" and they won't be able to take you in; someone on here may know more about this; now this won't necessarily keep you out of shame shame shame but at least you won't have to go w/ them.

well, if i missed something or anyone can add thereto, speak on![/quote]

I definitely noticed that! I'm getting ready to throw in the towel anyhow. Can't chance it even with as much as I know. I have run in on them several times and I must say that my quick with is one of the things that delivered me.

While we're at it, never let the would-be escort force you to say anything and always have an escape plan; e. G. I have to go get my wallet or to ATM.

In other words, don't stay there too long because you might do a Freudian slip and they got ya!

[QUOTE=Fender]Thanks for this info Jax411. Especially when LEO has been active in this forum recently. Have you noticed those new members? Watch out. Guys and escorts be careful with the info you provide to the newbies and to some new "seniors" that got seniority recently just by posting a lot of stupid things. Just trust the seniors than have been around for more than a year. Be safe.[/QUOTE]

Its referred to as: interconnecting rooms (rooms with an internal door between the two); when you have your rooms connected.

It use to be that our friends will be hiding in the other adjoining room but my experience has been that they also use regular rooms as well without the adjoining internal doorway.

Sometimes they will make it appear that the room is quite lived in; they will put suitcases and clothes everywhere to make you think they are traveling; again, don't be fooled by this.

Sometimes when in doubt, you may just ask her to go to the nearest restaurant and that you'll donate some change for that service; usually they don't like to mess around with this. The goal is to take you down fast without all the preliminaries.

Sometimes they will even put raincoats around the room to make it look legit; again, be careful what you say; dumb legit girls do this too; I mean DUMB!

Turning the TV up may drown out microphones and such. Turn the TV up and whisper!

When you go to the place where she is, remember, many of her cohorts are all around the place watching your every move.

Don't go to room w/ raincoats; sometimes she may ask you to stop by store and get some- DON'T!

Sometimes they'll ask what type of service you're looking for. Only nice clean fun! But ya know, wouldn't it be something to see leo's sister walking around the room strutting lingerie! Now that would be a site! Hopefully she'll be cute! I saw one that looked like a man; she can keep her stuff on! LOL

Some of you may ask why I am mentioning all this; there are times in our lives that we all do crazy things. When the time comes and we decide to leave this thing called a hobby, you don't want a record with sony records to follow you which can impact your job prospects. Its like, a woman who is asked to do something without a raincoat for large sums of $. She gets out of this hobby; gets married; want to have kids, great career, etc then she finds out that she has Aids; something she can't get rid of.

And so, no one wants to have a record from sony hanging over their head once they have moved on.

Plus, leo them and our lawmakers are very hypocritical; they will allow strip clubs which certainly breeds this type activity yet they want to end this thing called a hooker and ladder sandwich. Guess its because they can't get tax dollars from it! Funny, yet sad.

So, watch yourselves and don't take risk more than is needed; it isn't worth it. Someone said from the 'justicecoalition' that the reason why they put guys pix in shame shame shame is because these guys are taking the $ they should have for their families and supporting this thing called hobby.

Alright, so when a man goes to a strip club that has been legalized and spends most of his paycheck on a dancer, which will take $ away from his family; does this mean he gets his pix taken too? No because them hypocrites be in there too!

[QUOTE=Fender]Thanks for this info Jax411. Especially when LEO has been active in this forum recently. Have you noticed those new members? Watch out. Guys and escorts be careful with the info you provide to the newbies and to some new "seniors" that got seniority recently just by posting a lot of stupid things. Just trust the seniors than have been around for more than a year. Be safe.[/QUOTE]I learned a lot from a video, the link may have even been posted on here. It was from a legal type college class. It went on and on about not saying anything without legal representation. Our favorite uncle is allowed to ask you whatever and try to get you to talk, but the best thing to do is not to say anything without a lawyer. Don't defend yourself. Don't answer initial innocent questions. Talk the very minimum. A cop was on the film attending the class and straight up said that most of the bust they rely on the offending party to admit what they did. The same type stuff I saw in the miltary as well. There was very little they could do unless someone admitted to it, usually only in hand wirtten or verbal form. Even in the miltiary I was amazed how stupid some people were about that.

I am kind of curious for those of you out there that have spent some time with our uncle if they are even able to use text or email as evidence. It woudl be so easy to bring in a technical expert to explain how easy it is to fake those.

I try to stick with only women with reviews just to avoid the whole subject of what's allowed. Its probably better to avoid specifics until after the first time. Then you both know each other and can be a lot more open with what your looking for.

Just my 2 cents, Happy hunting!

Although Leo's little sister will most likely will not get comfortable, but the alleged LEO check does not mean they aren't a LEO. Leo does not have to admit that they are a relative of Uncle.

[QUOTE=Mask2376]I learned a lot from a video, the link may have even been posted on here. It was from a legal type college class. It went on and on about not saying anything without legal representation. Our favorite uncle is allowed to ask you whatever and try to get you to talk, but the best thing to do is not to say anything without a lawyer. Don't defend yourself. Don't answer initial innocent questions. Talk the very minimum. A cop was on the film attending the class and straight up said that most of the bust they rely on the offending party to admit what they did. The same type stuff I saw in the miltary as well. There was very little they could do unless someone admitted to it, usually only in hand wirtten or verbal form. Even in the miltiary I was amazed how stupid some people were about that.

I am kind of curious for those of you out there that have spent some time with our uncle if they are even able to use text or email as evidence. It woudl be SOOO easy to bring in a technical expert to explain how easy it is to fake those.

I try to stick with only women with reviews just to avoid the whole subject of what's allowed. Its probably better to avoid specifics until after the first time. Then you both know each other and can be a lot more open with what your looking for.

Just my 2 cents, Happy hunting![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mask2376]I learned a lot from a video, the link may have even been posted on here. It was from a legal type college class. It went on and on about not saying anything without legal representation. Our favorite uncle is allowed to ask you whatever and try to get you to talk, but the best thing to do is not to say anything without a lawyer. Don't defend yourself. Don't answer initial innocent questions. Talk the very minimum. A cop was on the film attending the class and straight up said that most of the bust they rely on the offending party to admit what they did. The same type stuff I saw in the miltary as well. There was very little they could do unless someone admitted to it, usually only in hand wirtten or verbal form. Even in the miltiary I was amazed how stupid some people were about that.

I am kind of curious for those of you out there that have spent some time with our uncle if they are even able to use text or email as evidence. It woudl be SOOO easy to bring in a technical expert to explain how easy it is to fake those.

I try to stick with only women with reviews just to avoid the whole subject of what's allowed. Its probably better to avoid specifics until after the first time. Then you both know each other and can be a lot more open with what your looking for.

Just my 2 cents, Happy hunting![/QUOTE]I second the "don't admit anything" rule. Not that this is gospel, but ever notice on most cop shows, near the end the person descides to say why they did it and how.

KYFMS!

True story.

Back in the navy, late 70's, while cruising off the coast of Singapore, I was partaking in some herb in the break room during flight deck ops. Anyway, I just take a hit and passed it on when the cops(master of arms/renatal boys) come wandering in.

My boy has his stash layed out on the bench, spread out to remove some seeds and stuff. He lays his hand over it, but barely covering all of it, I turn my head to the side and s-l-o-w-l-y exhale. Long story short, the cops find the stuff and take us both down to the brig area and split us up and do the questioning.

I maintained ignorance and said I was napping and my bud, true to form, took it all himself and did not drop a dime on me(can I use that phrase still?)

They tried and tried to get me to admit I smoked it or at least knew he was smoking it (and not ratting on him at the time, therfore making me criminal too).

Lie, lie deny.

I went to XO mast, which is one step below capatains mast (which almost always results in a bust in rank, fort of pay and brig time). The XO was mad that I wouldn't admit to anything, but he did the right thing and gave me a warning and 10 hours extra duty.

Keep in mind, I was wet behind the ears, 6 months into my tour and half way around the world, but I stuck to my (street)convictions.

Heck, if they caught me with the junk in my mouth, I still would have lied and said I was napping and D-bag over there must have slipped it in my lips while dozing off.

Lie, lie, deny.

PS: I never wrote this.

It is very easy to get emails and texts into evidence, and once you have to start explaining, you start loosing. So, even though you might have experts to say they can be faked, the safer route is not to use text's at all and keep emails to a minimum.

The advice about keeping your mouth shut, and not even answering innocent questions is also spot on. If you lie about a simple question like "do you know. " you might invite yourself on a trip downtown, Remember, Martha Stewert did not go to jail for her insider trading, she went to jail for lying to the Po Po about 2 phone calls she made.

There are 3 parts to this video that i posted awhile back...

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik&feature=related[/url]

And as most know i have been busted. All charges were dropped since i did not do anything, BUT the hassle and expense of being taken down town was a pain the wallet. And who can forget my photo in the JC rag. Very exciting.

I always thought it was funny that the one time i did not do anything was the time i was busted..LOL My girl i guess was busted earlier that day and they were using her to bust her other appointments...

I think that is why the charges were dropped, she was not leo and the set up was not good.






[QUOTE=Mask2376]I learned a lot from a video, the link may have even been posted on here. It was from a legal type college class. It went on and on about not saying anything without legal representation. Our favorite uncle is allowed to ask you whatever and try to get you to talk, but the best thing to do is not to say anything without a lawyer. Don't defend yourself. Don't answer initial innocent questions. Talk the very minimum. A cop was on the film attending the class and straight up said that most of the bust they rely on the offending party to admit what they did. The same type stuff I saw in the miltary as well. There was very little they could do unless someone admitted to it, usually only in hand wirtten or verbal form. Even in the miltiary I was amazed how stupid some people were about that.

I am kind of curious for those of you out there that have spent some time with our uncle if they are even able to use text or email as evidence. It woudl be so easy to bring in a technical expert to explain how easy it is to fake those.

I try to stick with only women with reviews just to avoid the whole subject of what's allowed. Its probably better to avoid specifics until after the first time. Then you both know each other and can be a lot more open with what your looking for.

Just my 2 cents, Happy hunting![/QUOTE]