The Massholes

[QUOTE=SpermSac;2103427]I guarantee there are mongers reading this and saying "what the fuck". Yet it goes on. It really makes NO fucking sense! But you all wanted it.

No wonder no other ladies want to comment on the forum. There to damn busy laughing at all us Massholes and grumpy ole men argue.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SmokeScreen;2103400]Yup, I see exactly what's happening, and that's what a thread like this is set up to do, to make enemies. When I 1st joined this was fun, like it's suppose to be, giving & receiving info about pussy. Now we're splitting up into little groups.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpermSac;2103379]If I didn't know better I would say things were sounding like a bunch of mother hens PMS'ing.

Damn someone throw out some chocolate bars to stop this petty bullshit before it spreads.

I hope there are some that see what has been happening here. It ain't good![/QUOTE]This thread was created in large part as a result of you guys trying to force your will on others. Others including myself stepped in to stop the bullying and inform certain members that they were free to post what they wanted. Many of your posts were deleted for rules violations and A2 moved the rest of the argumentative posts here. You only need to look into the mirror as to why this thread was created in the first place.

There have always been little cliques or groups on this forum and there always will be. You will find the same in all walks of life. It is human nature. When I first joined this forum I myself was attacked and quickly learned how to defend myself. I don't need others coming to my aid although over time I have gained a few loyal friends here.

If this thread is eliminated the problem of members arguing does not go away. It will simply revert back to the main threads and A2 will be wasting time cleaning them up and handing out punishments again.

As far as ladies not posting historically there has never been much of that anyways. Over the past several years we had Deanna Santana post for a couple months, Boston Tiffany weighed in very sporadically and Kat / Nyx was the only prolific poster however she was being less than truthful most of the time. So your rationalization that there are no ladies posting because of men arguing doesn't seem to fit.

[QUOTE=Yardape08;2103455]This thread was created in large part as a result of you guys trying to force your will on others. Others including myself stepped in to stop the bullying and inform certain members that they were free to post what they wanted. Many of your posts were deleted for rules violations and A2 moved the rest of the argumentative posts here. You only need to look into the mirror as to why this thread was created in the first place.

There have always been little cliques or groups on this forum and there always will be. You will find the same in all walks of life. It is human nature. When I first joined this forum I myself was attacked and quickly learned how to defend myself. I don't need others coming to my aid although over time I have gained a few loyal friends here.

If this thread is eliminated the problem of members arguing does not go away. It will simply revert back to the main threads and A2 will be wasting time cleaning them up and handing out punishments again.

As far as ladies not posting historically there has never been much of that anyways. Over the past several years we had Deanna Santana post for a couple months, Boston Tiffany weighed in very sporadically and Kat / Nyx was the only prolific poster however she was being less than truthful most of the time. So your rationalization that there are no ladies posting because of men arguing doesn't seem to fit.[/QUOTE]Yard, my title says it all, nicely worded.

Yard I couldn't agree with you more, that wasn't the first time Smoke got wacked, something about a woman's tongue up a guys arse that he felt was not appropriate & let the guy know not to post such things, A2 didn't quite see it that way, but hell who am I to talk I've had entire posts obliterated by A2 (rightly so), gone, no trace, never happened.

[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2102178]Deb, Will your tips on giving a BJ like a porn star include the use of a condom?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SmokeScreen;2102428]Say it ain't so, you're interested in how to give a good BJ, LOL?[/QUOTE]YF's original post didn't concern you yet you posted, no one said you couldn't, so where do you get off telling me or anyone else that doesn't agree with you that it's not your concern, to bad, just as you did I made it my concern.

[QUOTE=SmokeScreen;2103358]The 2nd post was a response to Deb, not him, then he responded to me. He can't take a joke, well tough shit, and why I'm explaining anything to you, I don't know. This doesn't concern you. As far as an apology goes, if I ever think I owe someone an apology they get it, he won't.[/QUOTE]You are not a stupid man SS so don't play coy about a reply to Deb, the subject matter was YF & he was the topic in your second response, if you turn this around & someone said that about you what would you have done.

Like I said I didn't think you would apologize (that was an easy prediction) but I was hoping.

You may look at it as you were only joking so no offence should be taken, but evidently YF didn't think it was so funny & let you know, perhaps he was only joking in his reply & you shouldn't take offence either, just saying.

[QUOTE=Yardape08;2103455]This thread was created in large part as a result of you guys trying to force your will on others. Others including myself stepped in to stop the bullying and inform certain members that they were free to post what they wanted. Many of your posts were deleted for rules violations and A2 moved the rest of the argumentative posts here. You only need to look into the mirror as to why this thread was created in the first place.

There have always been little cliques or groups on this forum and there always will be. You will find the same in all walks of life. It is human nature. When I first joined this forum I myself was attacked and quickly learned how to defend myself. I don't need others coming to my aid although over time I have gained a few loyal friends here.

If this thread is eliminated the problem of members arguing does not go away. It will simply revert back to the main threads and A2 will be wasting time cleaning them up and handing out punishments again.

As far as ladies not posting historically there has never been much of that anyways. Over the past several years we had Deanna Santana post for a couple months, Boston Tiffany weighed in very sporadically and Kat / Nyx was the only prolific poster however she was being less than truthful most of the time. So your rationalization that there are no ladies posting because of men arguing doesn't seem to fit.[/QUOTE]Hurray Yard! There are very few times when I don't have anything to add and this sure is one of them.

And SS, dude, I'm trying to stay out of this shit and I too giggled a bit at the Fever's unfortunate choice of words when I read his "How to Give a BJ" post but, for God's sake, stop beating on the dead horse. You said your piece about the way Fever chose to express himself and did it more then once, move on please, would you.

As for ladies posting, I'd say Deb is more then enough. There are several older providers that basically monopolized Boston forum on the other site for their own advertising purposes and passionately assail any hobbyist that asks questions about services that for one reason or the other they find objectionable. Particularly there is one named Nicole who has a tendency to really protect her turf, going after many competing providers with fervor, especially if they're younger. They all have choirs of supporting mongers who apparently see them and serenade how great those few ladies are, each chance they get. I really would hate for this here to become anything like that. Ladies often bring discord to conversations on such forums and I personally grew to consider their presence here or on [U]most[/U] similar forums counterproductive.

I really do have a good heart and I thought it'd be cool to describe what I learned. I'd never put another provider down and I'm sure that other providers know the same or if not more on how to give good BJ's than me. I thought the subject was innocuous for a fuck board. I really do care about you guys and don't know how my comment could have gotten out of hand. I'm staying away from this topic with a ten foot pole. And I do think providers can be a positive presence and add a different perspective on a discussion board such as this one as it has with other boards. I'm sending good thoughts and karma to all the guys.

Posted on the Advertiser board which clearly states " No Reviews or COMMENTARY".

[QUOTE=MongerExpert;2103463]Do us all a favor, and lower your prices. 160 has such a nice ring to it.[/QUOTE]Mongie, stop spending your money on ho's and invest in some ESL classes.

I will also point out that this was in response to a Boston Asian Doll ad and for the caliber of girls they have the pricing structure is fair IMHO.

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2103700]I really do have a good heart and I thought it'd be cool to describe what I learned. I'd never put another provider down and I'm sure that other providers know the same or if not more on how to give good BJ's than me. I thought the subject was innocuous for a fuck board. I really do care about you guys and don't know how my comment could have gotten out of hand. I'm staying away from this topic with a ten foot pole. And I do think providers can be a positive presence and add a different perspective on a discussion board such as this one as it has with other boards. I'm sending good thoughts and karma to all the guys.[/QUOTE]Deb listen, there is really nothing personal on my end towards you being here. I don't dislike you in the least and I'm sure you're a very nice person.

But! On this board it [I]never[/I] happened that provider's input did not eventually end up leading to some sort of discord. Not in my time being here anyway. Trust me there is a huge difference between when guys fight with one another over who said what and to whom and when they turn on a woman and then on one another, because some of them inevitably begin to protect her. It's called "an instinct." And it's already starting here with some being unhappy with you and others defending you. I appreciate that any girl would love to feel at least a bit like a Helen of Troy and have, if not nations then at least some small groups of male individuals fighting about her but that's why I'm so adamantly against having providers here.

There are other boards (where I refereed you to) where providers' presence doesn't really cause that much of an upheaval and is actually very constructive. They also discuss much more diverse topis then we do here, both hobby-wise and otherwise, some of which I found fascinating and learned a lot from.

Not since Stressed Out left the board. I'm trying to lighten it up and the guys are just fighting with each other no matter what. I'm not Helen of Troy. LOL and believe me, Smoke Screen and Yellow would have had it out with each other eventually if I was here or not here. I mean who gets pissed off over a BJ? I thought you guys actually liked bjs! And I thought I was bringing a little humor your way. Damn. The reason Massholes was created was not because you guys aren't getting along with me, but because you aren't getting along with each other. I'm taking a break anyway from posting. I'll be back sometime, maybe a few weeks, maybe longer. But who knows what they heck I can post without you guys freaking out on each other. It isn't me that's causing controversy between the guys. You guys are causing controversy between yourselves. I did give you a hard time about commenting over fat ladies and old ones, but how do I deal with criticism? I apologize and realize and learn from my mistakes. I doubt you can name any other time that I've been hot headed, critical or difficult towards you guys on the Masshole board. But you guys are crucifying each other. Why? Over posting counts, bjs, who wrote how many reviews. There was a shitload of posts about May's gate, which I thought was hilarious by the way. But WTF, so many posts about a gate that doesn't exist? All this animosity started long before I started posting here. And even with my long posts, guys were commenting on them thoughtfully. At least there wasn't any fighting going on then. Only other times you guys jumped on me was over long postings or posting too much. And I don't fight, I hate to fight. I hate picking fights. I don't belittle people. I like you guys, I just don't understand why you don't like each other. It totally stresses me out. And I will not be surprised if all of you guys jump on me about this post, if you feel criticized. Maybe I'm wrong with this post, but I don't think I am. But if you are upset about the fighting on Massholes Nrmls, I guess actually it's alright to fight here anyway. So you don't need to be upset. That's why Massholes was created in the first place, due to all the fighting.

Ciao.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2104016]Deb listen, there is really nothing personal on my end towards you being here. I don't dislike you in the least and I'm sure you're a very nice person.

But! On this board it [I]never[/I] happened that provider's input did not eventually end up leading to some sort of discord. Not in my time being here anyway. Trust me there is a huge difference between when guys fight with one another over who said what and to whom and when they turn on a woman and then on one another, because some of them inevitably begin to protect her. It's called "an instinct." And it's already starting here with some being unhappy with you and others defending you. I appreciate that any girl would love to feel at least a bit like a Helen of Troy and have, if not nations then at least some small groups of male individuals fighting about her but that's why I'm so adamantly against having providers here.

There are other boards (where I refereed you to) where providers' presence doesn't really cause that much of an upheaval and is actually very constructive. They also discuss much more diverse topis then we do here, both hobby-wise and otherwise, some of which I found fascinating and learned a lot from.[/QUOTE]This is an excellent point, and I was going to post something similar to it but figured I caused enough trouble by a simple joke. I mean no offence to you Deb, but having a woman posting here is somewhat like a woman joining an all men's golf club, she's bound to cause problems. When I was in combat I never wanted women fighting beside me because, as Nrlmus mentioned, some of us will be too protective of her, while others will be pissed off at the protectors for doing what they think is right. Anytime a small number of women mix in with a much larger group of men, it's only a matter of time for problems to arise.

Deb, I'm not suggesting you leave, just be aware there will be problems, but we are mostly all mature enough to get through it. After all, this is only a forum, not a life or death situation.

There are many that feel women should not post on a mans forum. I feel it would be a benefit as long as it's within the site guidelines, no he said she said bullshit, can post in Massholes, or in other forums only to give positive affirmant of an encounter.

Take a look at Cincinnati Ohio The Octagon forum, most of the SP's post or have posted there & it seems to work. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9626-Rants-Raves-and-Opinions-AKA-quot-The-Octagon-quot[/URL] Sure there are issues & arguments but we've that here & I feel the positives outweigh the negatives. I'd like to see more SP's posting here that have the same type of mindset as those in Cincinnati have.

Perhaps the Octagon forum is unique IDK, but some things just pass us by whether we will it or not, the military has long had women on the field in combat in a myriad of capacities long before anyone on this board was around.

I kinda feel the same about protecting women, but at the same time they don't really seem to need it.

Perhaps A2's lobby group could get some of those bolt ons to be fembots!
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTv9AhCuSU4[/url]

[QUOTE=Skatar018;2104230]There are many that feel women should not post on a mans forum. I feel it would be a benefit as long as it's within the site guidelines, no he said she said bullshit, can post in Massholes, or in other forums only to give positive affirmant of an encounter.

Take a look at Cincinnati Ohio The Octagon forum, most of the SP's post or have posted there & it seems to work. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9626-Rants-Raves-and-Opinions-AKA-quot-The-Octagon-quot[/URL] Sure there are issues & arguments but we've that here & I feel the positives outweigh the negatives. I'd like to see more SP's posting here that have the same type of mindset as those in Cincinnati have.

Perhaps the Octagon forum is unique IDK, but some things just pass us by whether we will it or not, the military has long had women on the field in combat in a myriad of capacities long before anyone on this board was around.

I kinda feel the same about protecting women, but at the same time they don't really seem to need it.

Perhaps A2's lobby group could get some of those bolt ons to be fembots!
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTv9AhCuSU4[/url][/QUOTE]Sure dude, I can try to get a hold of the old Deana Santana and tell her that we miss her here on the Massholes. I bet she'd be over in no time under some new alias and then with all of the freedom that Admin2 allows us on here, our past experiences with one another as a result of her posting on this board would look like children games.

Pretty soon you'd be putting me and few others on your "imbecile forever" list and I'd be doing the same with you and several others. Nice, that's exactly what we need more of here. How about some peace on earth instead and some warm and friendly "fuck you" once in a while wouldn't hurt either.

That'd be an eyeful for you. I went on a rant earlier at the suggestion that I'm the cause of the arguing. The hobby is fun. Sex is fun, so I don't understand why the discord. Good luck finding other providers in Boston to post here that aren't out of their minds. I'm just eccentric If you can find someone halfway sane and who doesn't have substance abuse problems let me know. Maybe I ought to suggest Gina in the Morning to post here. If so, I'm out of here. LOL I just prefer the men over the women. At least that's what I've discovered. Thankfully I found the hobby. I can do what I love, I can help people to unwind (at least during sessions if not here) who actually want my help for a change. I have a wicked sense of humor and I can take directions well LOL. If the reason for all the anger is due to overworking, problems at home, not having enough time off, I'll help you and give you all discounts. Sex is a good remedy for every ailment.

Xoxo.

give us & yourself more credit than that. For the record I've never posted, seen or contacted Deana. I try really hard not to argue over or about women, least not over a review good or bad, so feel free to post away about her or anyone else.

When you say
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2104411]our past experiences with one another[/QUOTE]do you mean the Masshole forum as a collective or you & myself past experiences?

Nah man A2 permanently separates people that really get after each other, you'll never make the list so stop asking already!

I for one would like to see more women posting here, however given our history or non-history of women posting in the Escort Classified Ads you've nothing to be concerned about, but I can hope!

BTW a big warm & friendly fuck you, you feeling all warm & fuzzy now.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mkTPgZZXnU[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2104411]Sure dude, I can try to get a hold of the old Deana Santana and tell her that we miss her here on the Massholes. I bet she'd be over in no time under some new alias and then with all of the freedom that Admin2 allows us on here, our past experiences with one another as a result of her posting on this board would look like children games.

Pretty soon you'd be putting me and few others on your "imbecile forever" list and I'd be doing the same with you and several others. Nice, that's exactly what we need more of here. How about some peace on earth instead and some warm and friendly "fuck you" once in a while wouldn't hurt either.[/QUOTE]

To Nrlmus and anyone who doesn't like women posting here. You mentioned that me posting in Massholes is bad for my business. Well since you made that statement a guy texted me and told me how much he loves my posts and another pmed me today wanting to make an appointment with me due to my posts. And another FYI Nrlmus the USA member who pmed mehere has more than double the posts that you have. LOL I think he would be considered an ultra senior, so he has more rank than youlol. Also I'm not Deana Santana, although I thought you liked her. No one to my knowledge has come to my rescue except for SO. So be it.

Off the subject: I'm seeking someone to exercise with, either at the gym in Beverly or walking / running in the park or on the beach. I want to kick ass my weight loss. I'm losing weight too slowly. If anyone is interested and doesn't think I'm too much of a Masshole (actually I'm originally a south jersey near the shore Jersey girl) So if you want to hang out, it's not going to include one of my sessions. It's exercise and maybe a latte afterwards for a reward for kick ass working out. And I will not charge you for my time and companionship. Pm if you are interested.

Xoxo.

DT.

[QUOTE=Skatar018;2104463]give us & yourself more credit than that. For the record I've never posted, seen or contacted Deana. I try really hard not to argue over or about women, least not over a review good or bad, so feel free to post away about her or anyone else.

When you say
do you mean the Masshole forum as a collective or you & myself past experiences?

Nah man A2 permanently separates people that really get after each other, you'll never make the list so stop asking already!

I for one would like to see more women posting here, however given our history or non-history of women posting in the Escort Classified Ads you've nothing to be concerned about, but I can hope!

BTW a big warm & friendly fuck you, you feeling all warm & fuzzy now.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mkTPgZZXnU[/URL][/QUOTE]I can see that "Fuck you" of yours boomeranging, ma'main man, as warm and friendly as it first left. You know I was just making an example, and you know we love each other you and I. I'm sure there'd be some who'd read too much into what I just said but at least it will keep the Massholes going for at least couple of more days with funny people exercising their hyper-amazing-ass sense of humor over and over and over again (did I miss an 'over' anywhere in between?)

All right, let's bring couple of more women to the Massholes. But if shit hits the fun as I suspect it shall do, and then (picture this!) the fun would break that shit into the multitude of little pieces with each of us ending up getting one of our own, I promise I will not be gracious. Not me. I'm the Masshole man in the truest sense of the term. I will instantly point to my superior foresight, scream about my righteousness and call on the whole world to know that I indeed "told you so"!