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[QUOTE=ARod978;3696801]Once you are in a few review clubs, you are golden. Then you know who's worthwhile to see and who's not.[/QUOTE]Review clubs are also problematic. First, they are secretive. I think you may be admitted due to your political views and race, LOL. I think they only allow level 2 or 3 to join. Level 1 girls are definitely not new considering the amount of "work" they have to do. Level 2 girls are a bit turn off to me. For the same reasons, I have no desire to climb the levels. You have to give good ratings to girls you don't even like to get a rating in return. And you have to be indiscriminate to have enough numbers so your rating goes up but not down.
I like to write so I answer a lot of guys questions if I recommend the girl. But I was never invited to any secret clubs. I think some get the info and post it in their clubs. A lot of guys answers my questions patiently and so I think they are not in any secret clubs. And if these guys aren't in, I don't need clubs desperately.
For the trophy ones, I only need to ask if they hidden face is pretty enough. Usually, they are, if not, it's a very subjective answer. I seldom think of turning away from the door.
The clubs may have some use for the K-girls where almost 100% are fake. But since no review boards can honestly tell you something the looks, I don't think any club will do better. If you want a sure thing, pick girls with 100 reviews on T E are.
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[QUOTE=ARod978;3696801]Once you are in a few review clubs, you are golden. Then you know who's worthwhile to see and who's not.[/QUOTE]Any word on how to get into these review clubs? I've been on HX for years (level 2) and the clubs I am in are completely dead.
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[QUOTE=TideHunter;3700184]Any word on how to get into these review clubs? I've been on HX for years (level 2) and the clubs I am in are completely dead.[/QUOTE]Ask around, some of the higher level guys may be willing to get you in if you have a good network.
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[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3697315]Review clubs are also problematic. First, they are secretive. I think you may be admitted due to your political views and race, LOL. I think they only allow level 2 or 3 to join. Level 1 girls are definitely not new considering the amount of "work" they have to do. Level 2 girls are a bit turn off to me. For the same reasons, I have no desire to climb the levels. You have to give good ratings to girls you don't even like to get a rating in return. And you have to be indiscriminate to have enough numbers so your rating goes up but not down.
I like to write so I answer a lot of guys questions if I recommend the girl. But I was never invited to any secret clubs. I think some get the info and post it in their clubs. A lot of guys answers my questions patiently and so I think they are not in any secret clubs. And if these guys aren't in, I don't need clubs desperately.
For the trophy ones, I only need to ask if they hidden face is pretty enough. Usually, they are, if not, it's a very subjective answer. I seldom think of turning away from the door.
The clubs may have some use for the K-girls where almost 100% are fake. But since no review boards can honestly tell you something the looks, I don't think any club will do better. If you want a sure thing, pick girls with 100 reviews on T E are.[/QUOTE]No, nobody really gives a shit about your political views or race. It's really about the quality of your network, and whether you are willing to TOFTT.
That's the most valuable part of the clubs, to get the firsthand TOFTT reports. Most of the reviews are very spot on. The PM's from guys are usually very terse in response. Many guys don't want to get burned by the pimps so they don't say much in PM. Also a lot of leechers don't reply to your PM but ask you for reviews. The best review clubs enforce a ratio on reviews and you get booted if you don't contribute. The best reviews give accurate descriptions of how the fuck went and what the girl's vibes are, etc. Nothing is 100% like you being there fucking the girl, but the reviews are a good way to filter out the thousands of girls out there to spend your hard-earned money.
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[QUOTE=TideHunter;3700184]Any word on how to get into these review clubs? I've been on HX for years (level 2) and the clubs I am in are completely dead.[/QUOTE]It's not important to be in review clubs. I just counted 8 review clubs I'm in. It's mainly the same guys saying the same shit in all of them. Half of those, are reviews of themselves more than anything. How good they are they made the chick cum 24 times in 20 minutes. How big their dick is. The best info comes from PM's. That's where I really get the good info that helps me decide if I should see someone or not.
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[QUOTE=TideHunter;3700184]Any word on how to get into these review clubs? I've been on HX for years (level 2) and the clubs I am in are completely dead.[/QUOTE]All you need to do is petition the owner of the club.
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[QUOTE=GoRanger;3701466]It's not important to be in review clubs. I just counted 8 review clubs I'm in. It's mainly the same guys saying the same shit in all of them. Half of those, are reviews of themselves more than anything. How good they are they made the chick cum 24 times in 20 minutes. How big their dick is. The best info comes from PM's. That's where I really get the good info that helps me decide if I should see someone or not.[/QUOTE]Generally PM'ing guys who have fucked the girl is a very hit-and-miss way of doing it. I would say I get 10-20% response rate at best, and half of the responses are fairly useless ("I like her, she's good. ") When I see a newbie, sometimes I get 20 or 30 PM's in the first few days. I generally stop responding, many are leechers anyway and don't reply when I ask them about girls. Being in a club can only help you, not hurt you.
The more info you can get the better.
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[QUOTE=ARod978;3701903]Generally PM'ing guys who have fucked the girl is a very hit-and-miss way of doing it. I would say I get 10-20% response rate at best, and half of the responses are fairly useless ("I like her, she's good. ") When I see a newbie, sometimes I get 20 or 30 PM's in the first few days. I generally stop responding, many are leechers anyway and don't reply when I ask them about girls. Being in a club can only help you, not hurt you.
The more info you can get the better.[/QUOTE]You must say something in your pm's to not get many replies. It's rare I don't get a reply from guys. Often though, it might be because they don't have PM privileges anymore and had to buy fx points. Anyway, I still believe after 15 years, private messages is where you get more honest information. It's always been that way for me at least.
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[QUOTE=GoRanger;3702792]You must say something in your pm's to not get many replies. It's rare I don't get a reply from guys. Often though, it might be because they don't have PM privileges anymore and had to buy fx points. Anyway, I still believe after 15 years, private messages is where you get more honest information. It's always been that way for me at least.[/QUOTE]No, I'm very polite in my PM requests.
Of course I only really ask about newbies (usually "0 day releases") and whoever is in their network. Most of the time they only have a few and if I'm lucky one will share. Most of the guys who TOFTT don't seem very willing to share. Too much white knighting and no honor among johns are the obvious causes.
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To (follow) review or not to review, that's the question. It depends what type of person you are or evolve into. There's no harm in reviews (actually it does) but I'm not paying $20 or even $10 or keeping my big mouth shut or begging to stay in.
I'm not a big fan of somebody, big enough that I would fuck after him girl after girl. I'm not waiting after the whole village have done her; that would be level 1 or above.
There are k-girls or some others on TER over 100 reviews! Some guys must have been following reviews religiously, afraid of wasting money. There are costs too if you do that all the time. Like opportunity cost? Passionate new girls as compared to the "passionate" whatever after a 100 reviews.
Branding. HX managed to give us something close to reliable agencies. There are plenty who won't do anything without TER reviews. Many gems in HX aren't even available outside of HX, at least not in that price. Would you be missing out similiarly if you only do what the others do in the clubs? It's pretty easy to spot which girls operate the same way and who are the same types. Usually they don't disappoint. A year or two I was offered a Christmas special of $300 half. I regretted not to take it as she never returned to the cheap HX guys. Now there's another. I should have took it. But I hesitated and asked the few in her network. Of course they say she's worth it. I hope she comes back. Anyway a k-girl for $260 hr or a pretty blonde for $330 hhr isn't that different to me. My 2nd shot is not that great.
And the k-girls are all PSE now; you couldn't miss. But the pictures are all fake now. It would be useful for picture accuracy rating and face rating. But the guys in AAMP deliberately skip those things.
HX agents recruit hot girls from somewhere else or from within HX. These girls appear regularly until they are no longer desired. The less popular ones are dropped very soon. I can almost give you a popular rating if I were to make charts base on my email subscriptions. Of course you have to be able to tell apart those girls who are really independent who just turn up with little overhead hoping to get some money, any money, before they are forced to retire.
I have plenty of memorable moments that I wouldn't have if I look at their reviews; I wouldn't have seen them.
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[QUOTE=GoRanger;3702792]You must say something in your pm's to not get many replies. It's rare I don't get a reply from guys. Often though, it might be because they don't have PM privileges anymore and had to buy fx points. Anyway, I still believe after 15 years, private messages is where you get more honest information. It's always been that way for me at least.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I'll always reply to a request for info. That's one reason to be a member in the first place. It may not be a full novel but at the very least I'll give a thumbs up / down. Surprised at the number of guys that never say thanks for the reply. I'll make a note and never reply back for further request for info. I've also gotten some good referrals from guys who appreciate the info.
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[QUOTE=SCJohn;3703264]Agreed. I'll always reply to a request for info. That's one reason to be a member in the first place. It may not be a full novel but at the very least I'll give a thumbs up / down. Surprised at the number of guys that never say thanks for the reply. I'll make a note and never reply back for further request for info. I've also gotten some good referrals from guys who appreciate the info.[/QUOTE]I do that exact same thing. I keep notes on who says thank you and who doesn't. Also, who has helped me, and who I've helped. My notes section is stupid long. Haha.
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[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3703171]To (follow) review or not to review, that's the question. It depends what type of person you are or evolve into. There's no harm in reviews (actually it does) but I'm not paying $20 or even $10 or keeping my big mouth shut or begging to stay in.
I'm not a big fan of somebody, big enough that I would fuck after him girl after girl. I'm not waiting after the whole village have done her; that would be level 1 or above.
There are k-girls or some others on TER over 100 reviews! Some guys must have been following reviews religiously, afraid of wasting money. There are costs too if you do that all the time. Like opportunity cost? Passionate new girls as compared to the "passionate" whatever after a 100 reviews.
Branding. HX managed to give us something close to reliable agencies. There are plenty who won't do anything without TER reviews. Many gems in HX aren't even available outside of HX, at least not in that price. Would you be missing out similiarly if you only do what the others do in the clubs? It's pretty easy to spot which girls operate the same way and who are the same types. Usually they don't disappoint. A year or two I was offered a Christmas special of $300 half. I regretted not to take it as she never returned to the cheap HX guys. Now there's another. I should have took it. But I hesitated and asked the few in her network. Of course they say she's worth it. I hope she comes back. Anyway a k-girl for $260 hr or a pretty blonde for $330 hhr isn't that different to me. My 2nd shot is not that great.
And the k-girls are all PSE now; you couldn't miss. But the pictures are all fake now. It would be useful for picture accuracy rating and face rating. But the guys in AAMP deliberately skip those things.
HX agents recruit hot girls from somewhere else or from within HX. These girls appear regularly until they are no longer desired. The less popular ones are dropped very soon. I can almost give you a popular rating if I were to make charts base on my email subscriptions. Of course you have to be able to tell apart those girls who are really independent who just turn up with little overhead hoping to get some money, any money, before they are forced to retire.
I have plenty of memorable moments that I wouldn't have if I look at their reviews; I wouldn't have seen them.[/QUOTE]That's the best part of HX. Trying out new girls that are level 0 and finding some real gems.
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Great info all.
I found info on this thread that helped me to avoid a double account, fake pic girl on HX and I really appreciate that.
Maybe there could be a third-party review board for girls on HX that could be cheaper than TER. I know a lot of guys here have a lot to contribute.
But that would probably be shut down since I'm sure the mods on HX like their monopoly.
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Often times, the only thing I want to know is if the girl has a pretty face. Some girls asking for $$ donations but no face pics? Come on now.
I was recommended one girl by another guy on HX. I was really excited to meet her because this guy "highly recommended" her so I booked an appt with her even though I don't usually see girls on this day of the week. I get there and her face is a 6 maybe 7/10. Now the girl was really nice and skilled BUT I still wouldn't have seen her if I had good info. A part of me wanted to leave the second she opened the door but I don't want to get on a booker's blacklist if he / she has some great girls that I might potentially miss out on if I got on their bad side. I doubt something like this would've happened on say, Nightshift or TER, but like I said in a previous post, the quality of girls on HX is really hit and miss but when you hit, you hit the jackpot.