Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=MrNails;4781746]It's been a long time since anyone mentioned the Fulton here. I thought it was out of business but it's not. Just looked it up and their facebook page is still active. Someone posted it is $35 a night. I only tried once to get a room and they were booked up. I heard you could rent room for short stay. Maybe someone that has experience with the Fulton can give more details.

Stay Safe. MN.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4781843]I forgot all about that place. Anyone ever been??

I mean, now that I'm thinking, I suppose I could get a prepaid card with some stashed cash so wife doesn't notice anything on the credit card. I've never booked a hotel or something on a prepay card. Can you even do that? LOL.[/QUOTE]I have been to the Fulton Manor a handful of times. Cash was used each time and I would assume I paid for a short stay because my rate was less than 35 dollars. My dates always signed for the room and I highly doubt that any of them had an I. D. To show, but I could be wrong about that. My dates were also probably already known by the staff as being members of their loyalty rewards program.

It's a no frills place to flop / fuck. There is no shower and no air and while you can lock the door while inside of your room you do not get a key. As I recall, the bathroom had washcloths but you may have had to pay an upgrade fee to get a towel.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4781843]I forgot all about that place. Anyone ever been??

I mean, now that I'm thinking, I suppose I could get a prepaid card with some stashed cash so wife doesn't notice anything on the credit card. I've never booked a hotel or something on a prepay card. Can you even do that? LOL.[/QUOTE]They are so cheap you don't have to worry about being caught. And since you met them on fb, you're doing nothing illegal. Just sliding in DMs.

[QUOTE=EricJones21;4782042]They are so cheap you don't have to worry about being caught. And since you met them on fb, you're doing nothing illegal. Just sliding in DMs.[/QUOTE]It's been a couple years, but pretty sure they're still around. I don't think they even take credit cards. I don't recall them requiring an I'd. Cash is king. Basically, once you leave, your stay is over (you can't go back). It's the ultimate no-tel. I think Red Roof Inns, at least for a while, were offering $29 day rates for "people needing a temporary office. " There, you do need an I'd. Not sure if that offer still stands.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;4783827]It's been a couple years, but pretty sure they're still around. I don't think they even take credit cards. I don't recall them requiring an I'd. Cash is king. Basically, once you leave, your stay is over (you can't go back). It's the ultimate no-tel. I think Red Roof Inns, at least for a while, were offering $29 day rates for "people needing a temporary office. " There, you do need an I'd. Not sure if that offer still stands.[/QUOTE]So I found an AirBNB where the price is right, the location is discreet, and I can use prepaid cards for it. So I'll check that off the list.

Now, as this girl reached out to me on FB, I do want to make sure I've taken every imaginable precaution so I know I'm not getting myself involved in a set up. What tips are out there?

I mean, if I pull this off, and get to be with an 18 year old, I'm going to be super impressed with myself! LOL.

If she claims to be 18, make her show you an I'd.

Since she contacted you first, she shouldn't have an issue with that. If she does move on. Less than 18 can get you a vacation at the Grey Bar Hotel and probably a divorce.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4783900]So I found an AirBNB where the price is right, the location is discreet, and I can use prepaid cards for it. So I'll check that off the list.

Now, as this girl reached out to me on FB, I do want to make sure I've taken every imaginable precaution so I know I'm not getting myself involved in a set up. What tips are out there?

I mean, if I pull this off, and get to be with an 18 year old, I'm going to be super impressed with myself! LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4783900]So I found an AirBNB where the price is right, the location is discreet, and I can use prepaid cards for it. So I'll check that off the list.

Now, as this girl reached out to me on FB, I do want to make sure I've taken every imaginable precaution so I know I'm not getting myself involved in a set up. What tips are out there?

I mean, if I pull this off, and get to be with an 18 year old, I'm going to be super impressed with myself! LOL.[/QUOTE]I have been doing this for years as probably many of us have. You can tell by the FB account what she is like. If she has a long history and lots of pics and friends it is prob a real account and girl. If she is posting sexy pics etc. She is prob down for some $$ to hookup. Once you verify she is 18 ask for nudes in messenger or video. You will be surprised how many will get dirty on messenger which makes you feel more comfortable about meeting. As always do your homework as I usually don't go lower than 20's in age but have been very successful. Good luck. DC.

[QUOTE=BTBear;4783975]If she claims to be 18, make her show you an I'd.

Since she contacted you first, she shouldn't have an issue with that. If she does move on. Less than 18 can get you a vacation at the Grey Bar Hotel and probably a divorce.[/QUOTE]Well this blew up on me!

I dug around on FB and found she had two pages. One said she was 18 and another 17, so I figured I'd better ask about seeing her I. D.

She did NOT like that. She said I was "doing too much," and that I was asking like a "star customer" but I'm not even on her "agent's list. " We mutually called the whole thing off.

Damn these blue balls! LOL.

If you really want to try her out, keep her info and contact her in two years. A couple of things might happen:

1. She let's you bang her and you die of a heart attack from the excitement.

2. She is a heroin junky and she does you for $20 so she gets her next fix, meanwhile you get a dose of the clap because she has been walking the streets since you "did so much" and pissed her off.

3. She found Jesus and gets pissed because you kept her number and she "isn't that kind of girl" now.

4. You see that on her FB pages she is still 17/18 and is really a Russian high schooler who likes to phish middle aged "American-inskys".

Bottom line is this, you dodged a bullet. TGTBT is 99.9% of the time IS TGTBT.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4785471]Well this blew up on me!

I dug around on FB and found she had two pages. One said she was 18 and another 17, so I figured I'd better ask about seeing her I. D.

She did NOT like that. She said I was "doing too much," and that I was asking like a "star customer" but I'm not even on her "agent's list. " We mutually called the whole thing off.

Damn these blue balls! LOL.[/QUOTE]

Do You Ask to Be a Friend first? Do you have a monger profile with a phony name? What have you found to be the best way to approach a first meeting to start the negotiations for P2 P?

I would think your "stroke out average" has to be high. What have you found the going rate to be?

Finally have you ever been reported to FB as being a creep?

[QUOTE=DCopperfield;4785164]I have been doing this for years as probably many of us have. You can tell by the FB account what she is like. If she has a long history and lots of pics and friends it is prob a real account and girl. If she is posting sexy pics etc. She is prob down for some $$ to hookup. Once you verify she is 18 ask for nudes in messenger or video. You will be surprised how many will get dirty on messenger which makes you feel more comfortable about meeting. As always do your homework as I usually don't go lower than 20's in age but have been very successful. Good luck. DC.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BTBear;4785511]If you really want to try her out, keep her info and contact her in two years. A couple of things might happen:

1. She let's you bang her and you die of a heart attack from the excitement.

2. She is a heroin junky and she does you for $20 so she gets her next fix, meanwhile you get a dose of the clap because she has been walking the streets since you "did so much" and pissed her off.

3. She found Jesus and gets pissed because you kept her number and she "isn't that kind of girl" now.

4. You see that on her FB pages she is still 17/18 and is really a Russian high schooler who likes to phish middle aged "American-inskys".

Bottom line is this, you dodged a bullet. TGTBT is 99.9% of the time IS TGTBT.[/QUOTE]I feel pretty confident she's real. I just think she might be 17, and she might have a female pimp in Winton Terrace who doesn't care about that. I mean, I feel like it should have been worth the price of admission for her to just show me her I'd with her name and address covered, but she wasn't having that.

[QUOTE=BTBear;4785528]Do You Ask to Be a Friend first? Do you have a monger profile with a phony name? What have you found to be the best way to approach a first meeting to start the negotiations for P2 P?

I would think your "stroke out average" has to be high. What have you found the going rate to be?

Finally have you ever been reported to FB as being a creep?[/QUOTE]Never been reported. I have a monger account and have never posted a pic of myself. I have over 100 girls I have friended and over time most of them are mutual friends as I look at their friend list. Once you have several friends in common its easier to get results. It takes a little time but well worth it. I put feelers out like (who wants to hang out, inbox me $$) sometimes I send an instant message and say (hey we should hang on the low $$ Some don't respond but you would be surprised by the power of the $$ sign. I have had a good success rate over the years. Once you hookup it usually last a while in the meantime you keep fishing for another one. I have a couple girls I have seen for over 5 years UTR. I find it exciting and fun personally. In my messages I put the smiley face with a money sign as the tongue instead of the $$ sign but I couldn't do it here. FYI. Again most of these girls are putting all the goods on view in their pics and you can tell who to friend request to get started. Good luck. DC.

[QUOTE=DCopperfield;4786679]Never been reported. I have a monger account and have never posted a pic of myself. I have over 100 girls I have friended and over time most of them are mutual friends as I look at their friend list. Once you have several friends in common its easier to get results. It takes a little time but well worth it. I put feelers out like (who wants to hang out, inbox me $$) sometimes I send an instant message and say (hey we should hang on the low $$ Some don't respond but you would be surprised by the power of the $$ sign. I have had a good success rate over the years. Once you hookup it usually last a while in the meantime you keep fishing for another one. I have a couple girls I have seen for over 5 years UTR. I find it exciting and fun personally. In my messages I put the smiley face with a money sign as the tongue instead of the $$ sign but I couldn't do it here. FYI. Again most of these girls are putting all the goods on view in their pics and you can tell who to friend request to get started. Good luck. DC.[/QUOTE]My fake FB has been deleted. I guess she went hard after me once I canceled because she wouldn't show I. D. Got my account turned off! .

[QUOTE=DCopperfield;4786679]Never been reported. I have a monger account and have never posted a pic of myself. I have over 100 girls I have friended and over time most of them are mutual friends as I look at their friend list. Once you have several friends in common its easier to get results. It takes a little time but well worth it. I put feelers out like (who wants to hang out, inbox me $$) sometimes I send an instant message and say (hey we should hang on the low $$ Some don't respond but you would be surprised by the power of the $$ sign. I have had a good success rate over the years. Once you hookup it usually last a while in the meantime you keep fishing for another one. I have a couple girls I have seen for over 5 years UTR. I find it exciting and fun personally. In my messages I put the smiley face with a money sign as the tongue instead of the $$ sign but I couldn't do it here. FYI. Again most of these girls are putting all the goods on view in their pics and you can tell who to friend request to get started. Good luck. DC.[/QUOTE]I created a FB profile using my secondary play phone number. FB uses your stored phone numbers to make the friends suggestions list. It's made for some interesting information! Maybe saving providers numbers whether you have contacted them or not may be useful? Either way for me it can add a layer of safety if I see they have a family going and some sort of stability going on I'm more likely to call.

I've had a huge amount of no answers lately. And I think I may have discovered why. My burner phone is a 937 area code. And everytime I respond to a response or remessage a text I previously sent to see if I can get a reply I noticed that the 1 was dropped off. Outbox says it sends but I am not so sure. When I added the 1 I got near immediate responses back. I have an old burner. Flip phone type without the flipping. I haven't tried this in my area code yet as I have not had much play time or luck in the area yet.

I left a negative review for a scam artist on Listcrawler today, and then later when I tried to click on "comments" or "pictures and reviews" I got redirected to Eros-Louisville, KY. Now when I try to get on Listcrawler it takes me to Eros-Louisville automatically.

I know this has been discussed before, and I guess I have been blocked the the negative review.

Does anyone know how I can use Listcrawler again? Or am I just screwed now?

Any help is appreciated.