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Don't Dream
[QUOTE=JoeHat58;4156182]In relation to a recent post about an expanded menu at a standard, local AMP, I can attest that I've been both victorious and defeated in this endeavor.
It's been about 15 years but a place off Franconia Rd, still there, offered the menu on a 2nd visit. I went back 2 more times within a couple months and enjoyed a really beautiful girl with a great body (she had a small patch on her upper back, maybe to quit smoking? Maybe birth control?) Anyway, it was great. I didn't have to go to DC to Vermont St and climb stairs.
But I've also been promised and then had those promises broken. Actually, this has more often been the case. It becomes apparent quickly when you realize you've been sold a promise that won't come true. Similar to your local car or insurance salesman. For this, I have had the mindset that our local nova AMPs are HE and not FS.
I've resorted to going across the water when the fever hits. That said, one can continue to dream, and hope to be proven wrong.[/QUOTE]You don't have to dream. Use "across the water" to your advantage. Search the forum until you find a few promising reports and plan a trip. Your attitude should be from Training Day: they have Today and Today only to prove your patronage. If they try to flake like below:
[QUOTE=DKN511;4148653]Meh, what a rip-off.
Since it's near me I decided to give it a try. I walked in, met Mya. Opted for 1 h for. 8. Had a so so TS and a mediocre massage with free roaming.
Then on the flip, she asked and I told her I wanted her to take all off, give me BBBJ and let me DATY for. 8 . But she refused that it's not enough. I went up to $ and $. 2 (I know, I need to work on my determination). She insisted they don't do BBBJ asked if I had condom which I did. I said if CBJ then it's only. 8 (I might have accidentally said $). In the end she gave me CBJ and a very short DATY. All's done and I gave her $ and she said I said $. 2 but that's only for BBBJ which it wasn't. After 5 min of insisting and giving me a life lesson about protected sex (meh it was only BJ) because I'm young (I'm in my 3 x but I look younger on outside due to being Asian, duh). I just thought screw this and gave her. 2 more for a total of $. 2 tip + . 8 on the house for a CBJ. Total damage is $$. Rip-off, not going to come back.[/QUOTE]You'll have the strength to decline and reallocate your remaining funds "across the water" to complete your mission. 90% of the time they'll decide to honor the initial agreement. The other 10% you'll cross them off your list and reward someone who actually wants your business.
You don't have to dream. But you will have to put in extra work and sometimes extra funds to find the hidden local gems. This forum makes it easy to stand on the shoulders of giants.
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4 Hand
What is the going tip rate for HE with 4 Hand massage?
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Tipping a 4 Hand.
Last time I had 4-hand massage was when Tara's little friend was visiting for several months and began trying her hand (pun intended) at providing sensual massage services. With Tara's friend, can't remember name right now (Oh, how quickly we forget, anyway Tara's friend had a tight grip on the joystick and was using the other hand to tease the boys while Tara, who was totally nude, was allowing free roaming and feeding me a nice, big nipple while talking dirty to me until the deed was done.
Anyway, I had a very enjoyable time with them both, so I tipped them each $40. That memory is etched in my mind and still arouses my loins when I think about it.
[QUOTE=DSkippy;4161623]What is the going tip rate for HE with 4 Hand massage?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JmSuttr;4152306]If you do a Google search on her 571 phone number, and another using her email address, you'll get results pointing to states other than Virginia. And, if you filter to show results from the past year, you get zero, zip, nada.
That's a strong indication, IMHO, that the listing is stale and she's moved on. Shame on MassageAnywhere for not keeping their site up to date, but it doesn't surprise me. I've also noticed ads there that are almost certainly no longer valid.[/QUOTE]Just go to the "Contact Me" tab on that web site and you see that she is now operating out of Reno, NV.
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Hidden Cameras
In learning about the head Patriot, do places have hidden cams in the rooms?
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Eticate Question
I'm realatively new to the hobby and had a quick question. When you go in and lie down face down. Do you put your boy pointing up towards your head. Or down between your legs. Is it different with a legit place?
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[QUOTE=Toadster999;4163419]I'm realatively new to the hobby and had a quick question. When you go in and lie down face down. Do you put your boy pointing up towards your head. Or down between your legs. Is it different with a legit place?[/QUOTE]I normally put him through the hole at the end of the bed.
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B&T Health Balance
I thought I'd enjoy my Friday afternoon and stop over at King in the Franconia area and see Cici. Went in and asked and was greeted by a girl I did not recognize. Asked for Cici and was told she is "off" and will "be back next week". I wasn't tempted to ask her whether she was free. Didn't feel any attraction.
So. There I was in the Franconia area with the itch. I spent some time in the car reviewing the reviews of Franconia Wellness. Sounded like that might be iffy. I had been to New Paradise a few weeks ago and wasn't overwhelmed. For some reason I thought there was another salon in that cluster of townhouse offices on the corner. So I parked and walked around the buildings. Came across an unassuming little sign "B&T Health Balance" and decided to poke my head in. Typical foyer setup. So far so good. I was greeted by a small, friendly woman in blue scrubs, who introduced herself as Holly. She's slight, early 40's perhaps, and I beleive of Chinese background. Spoke English well, and very friendly. There were accupressure posters all over the walls. She led me back to a room. I was looking around and asked if she had a table shower. She could see my disappointment when she said No, and quickly countered with an offer of half an hour for 50. I decided to take a chance, figuring that I would at least get a good massage out of it.
She was the only one there as far as I could tell, and when I asked, she said she was the manager. So apparently little risk of being disturbed / surveilled.
Nice comfortable massage table. I had everything off and she went to work. She asked medium or hard. I said hard. She did lean in on me pretty well, but I would say that it was more medium than hard. As I said she is small. But she's strong. She brushed against me plenty as she leaned in, and I enjoyed leaning back against her, letting my hand brush here and there, etc. She used a lot of forearm and elbow, overall quite good. I complimented her on her technique and all the accupressure posters and asked where she trained. She said China. That would explain why she has good technique of a particular type that I'll get to in a minute.
She paid some attention to my legs and butt, then asked if I wanted a full body massage, since tume was passing and I had only asked for a half hour. I said yes, so she suggested I flip. She started with some activity on my front, and I went ahead and asked if she does prostate massage. She said yes indeed, and moved to an external massage in the taint area, applying pressure but from the outside. She volunteered that this was very healthy for men to receive. Good to know. That was good for a bit, and then I asked if she would do it internally as well. No problem, she got a glove and proceeded. Excellent technique. She knew what she was looking for and how to work with it. I complimented her skill and she confirmed that yes, they teach it in China.
I encouraged her to apply more pressure, since I like it fairly hard, and she complied. She was also willing to take her time and not try to rush me to completion.
She stayed in close and allowed OTC roaming everywhere, and has a nice hard body, but declined UTC. She "doesn't do that".
It was an excellent finish, and she cleaned me up with a warm wet towel. Like I said. No shower. It was a bit over a half hour. I tipped her 60 for friendliness and skill.
L.
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Like how much?
[QUOTE=Je2010;4145500]Lily will want a lot more than what you paid. I used to go there all the time, until I met Lily. She wanted almost dbl for dress off with standard.[/QUOTE]I used to go a lot of places in northern VA. Even older ladies asks 100 for get undress. Did she ask 200 for get undress??
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Thanks for info
[QUOTE=YellowBlanketz;4123270]Has anyone else had dreams with providers that do rim jobs? Provider name, spa name and detailed description of provider body, face, age, etc would be nice.
Excluding the known one, Jenny who works for mclean / reston.
BTW, according to my dream, Jenny is not a young pretty spinner. She def seems to be at least upper 30's and average in looks. She is nice though.[/QUOTE]Thanks for info. Do you know how much she gets for rimming tho?? I would like to know tip. Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Eevo1;4163349]In learning about the head Patriot, do places have hidden cams in the rooms?[/QUOTE]If they do probably too late. I am kinda afraid of going too now.
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Always Point Him South
I usually try to put mine in the hole between her legs. Failing that, I shoot for her mouth. (Pun intended.).
Seriously, for a sensual massage you should always point your junk facing downward and try to make sure your little guy and his friends are sticking out at least a little bit. You want your attendant to have some access for teasing and pleasing while you are face down.
I also point my manhood facing south with a legit massage lady too. And I want my head and balls to be exposed just in case there is some accidental grazing. If junior starts to grow, she'll likely notice and maybe it could lead to some more intimate fun. It can make for a great conversation piece to open up the discussion, if nothing else.
Good luck out there and be sure to come back and share your adventures with the rest of us, Toadster999.
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;4163879]I normally put him through the hole at the end of the bed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Toadster999;4163419]I'm realatively new to the hobby and had a quick question. When you go in and lie down face down. Do you put your boy pointing up towards your head. Or down between your legs. Is it different with a legit place?[/QUOTE]
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Nice find
In my dream I opted for 60 minutes. The massage was ok, 6 on a 1-10 scale. Finish was a 10. Dream-self will return for 30 minutes next visit.
[QUOTE=Lucretius;4164244]I thought I'd enjoy my Friday afternoon and stop over at King in the Franconia area and see Cici. Went in and asked and was greeted by a girl I did not recognize. Asked for Cici and was told she is "off" and will "be back next week". I wasn't tempted to ask her whether she was free. Didn't feel any attraction.
So. There I was in the Franconia area with the itch. I spent some time in the car reviewing the reviews of Franconia Wellness. Sounded like that might be iffy. I had been to New Paradise a few weeks ago and wasn't overwhelmed. For some reason I thought there was another salon in that cluster of townhouse offices on the corner. So I parked and walked around the buildings. Came across an unassuming little sign "B&T Health Balance" and decided to poke my head in. Typical foyer setup. So far so good. I was greeted by a small, friendly woman in blue scrubs, who introduced herself as Holly. She's slight, early 40's perhaps, and I beleive of Chinese background. Spoke English well, and very friendly. There were accupressure posters all over the walls. She led me back to a room. I was looking around and asked if she had a table shower. She could see my disappointment when she said No, and quickly countered with an offer of half an hour for 50. I decided to take a chance, figuring that I would at least get a good massage out of it.
She was the only one there as far as I could tell, and when I asked, she said she was the manager. So apparently little risk of being disturbed / surveilled.
Nice comfortable massage table. I had everything off and she went to work. She asked medium or hard. I said hard. She did lean in on me pretty well, but I would say that it was more medium than hard. As I said she is small. But she's strong. She brushed against me plenty as she leaned in, and I enjoyed leaning back against her, letting my hand brush here and there, etc. She used a lot of forearm and elbow, overall quite good. I complimented her on her technique and all the accupressure posters and asked where she trained. She said China. That would explain why she has good technique of a particular type that I'll get to in a minute.
She paid some attention to my legs and butt, then asked if I wanted a full body massage, since tume was passing and I had only asked for a half hour. I said yes, so she suggested I flip. She started with some activity on my front, and I went ahead and asked if she does prostate massage. She said yes indeed, and moved to an external massage in the taint area, applying pressure but from the outside. She volunteered that this was very healthy for men to receive. Good to know. That was good for a bit, and then I asked if she would do it internally as well. No problem, she got a glove and proceeded. Excellent technique. She knew what she was looking for and how to work with it. I complimented her skill and she confirmed that yes, they teach it in China.
I encouraged her to apply more pressure, since I like it fairly hard, and she complied. She was also willing to take her time and not try to rush me to completion.
She stayed in close and allowed OTC roaming everywhere, and has a nice hard body, but declined UTC. She "doesn't do that".
It was an excellent finish, and she cleaned me up with a warm wet towel. Like I said. No shower. It was a bit over a half hour. I tipped her 60 for friendliness and skill.
L.[/QUOTE]
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Smooth Water
I went to Smooth Water based on previous reviews about BBBJ. Went there and a upper 40's to 50's lady which turned out to be Chinese took care of me. Opted for 30 min. No ts so straight to massage which was pretty relaxing. Flipped and I asked about BJ. She said no and that a worker there was fired because of reports on the internet. This is FYI.
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Excellence spa Manassas
Was running around town and happened to see this spa, I had the extra time to burn so I took the leap.
It's in the "samantha's corner" business area, walked in.
And met "lili" (typical slender Asian nothing to write home about) massage was 40 hhr 60 hr, I threw out my signal that jr needed attention and waited for the for the flip. On the flip jr was ignored so I used one more tactic I spoke to her in Chinese and asked her about the "other" menu items. She smilded and said just the massage.
In a nutshell good massage, no nova.