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[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6452471]Irvine, Costa Mesa, Cerritos, Huntington Beach are all very, very tough on massage establishments.
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Cities like Stanton, Bellflower, Downey, Westminster, and GG tolerate them to a certain extent .[/QUOTE]I could be wrong, but I've always been of the opinion that cities with a decent tax base (ie. Cerritos has the auto mall for instance), don't need the business.
Plus just the public image in some cities such as Irvine, wants to have a squeaky clean image - "best places to live" and all that jazz.
Perhaps I'm oversimplifying, but other cites that don't have such a tax base, say a GG, will look the other way as some business is better than none.
So bottom line, I don't even bother with cities that have manicured lawns, I go for the weed infested areas with chain link fencing around yards.
just my two cents
[QUOTE=StickyFingers;6452485]This is really helpful to keep in mind. Do you happen to know of any cities in LA or South Bay fall into either of these buckets?[/QUOTE]SGV most definitely. Valley Blvd is like Westminster Blvd -- if there's a MP on Valley, they offer a full menu. And there's lot of places on Valley. Lots of other places in the area, too. And plenty of AAMPs.
[QUOTE=Taws6;6452537]I could be wrong, but I've always been of the opinion that cities with a decent tax base (ie. Cerritos has the auto mall for instance), don't need the business.
Plus just the public image in some cities such as Irvine, wants to have a squeaky clean image - "best places to live" and all that jazz.
Perhaps I'm oversimplifying, but other cites that don't have such a tax base, say a GG, will look the other way as some business is better than none.
So bottom line, I don't even bother with cities that have manicured lawns, I go for the weed infested areas with chain link fencing around yards.
just my two cents[/QUOTE]You're on track. The city is pretty straight. Cerritos even has parking restrictions in neighborhood. You cannot park your car on a residential street overnight unless you have a valid resident parking sticker that you must apply and pay for.
Cerritos is actually in the 562 area code so it's not in Orange County. It's more like the Long Beach area.
Stopped by Believe yesterday. Plans with my ATF in San Gabriel fell through, so went to plan B and C.
First time at Believe. Texted the place and they had Jojo and Coco working. I think it was Coco who answered the door. Asked for Jojo. I believe she has a following here. She has a tat on her abdomen, not sure if that's the same Jojo you all know. Decent service. DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions and blew in the bag. Decent service, just not what I'm used to I guess so wasn't all that impressed, but she will do in a pinch. Top it off, she's only $10 more than Linda at the flower place. She's here for 10 days, so have at it boys. She works in SD too at some of the popular spots but said she was taking some time off to rest after her current stint.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6452471]Irvine, Costa Mesa, Cerritos, Huntington Beach are all very, very tough on massage establishments. Out of that list, Costa Mesa is hands down the toughest.[/QUOTE]Is this new for Costa Mesa? I've been to several AMPs in Costa Mesa, although not recently. Costa Mesa was even home to the 440 Fair Dr building which was basically like walking through the red light district in the United States.
[QUOTE=Taws6;6452537]I could be wrong, but I've always been of the opinion that cities with a decent tax base (ie. Cerritos has the auto mall for instance), don't need the business.
Plus just the public image in some cities such as Irvine, wants to have a squeaky clean image - "best places to live" and all that jazz.
Perhaps I'm oversimplifying, but other cites that don't have such a tax base, say a GG, will look the other way as some business is better than none.
So bottom line, I don't even bother with cities that have manicured lawns, I go for the weed infested areas with chain link fencing around yards.
just my two cents[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with tax base. Massage is a service, and services aren't taxable in CA. Besides that, most of the hobby MPs are evading taxes anyway, not even following labor law and properly paying their staff which means they aren't even paying payroll taxes. It's all about the image the city wants to make for itself and what the residents want, property values and such. Cerritos is a city where someone will call the cops if you fart in their general direction, and the cops will show up.
Years ago, and we're talking 30 or so years ago, I was living in Downey and I spent a day on a ride along with a Downey PD cop. He actually showed me every AMP in town and pointed out all the identifying features. The neon open sign, the blacked out windows, the open late at night hours, etc. He said they know exactly what happens in there, but it's contained so they don't really care. As long as it isn't a public nuisance or drawing complaints it's there and they can monitor it. If they break it up it just drives what's happening in there to the cheap motels where there's other stuff like drug deals going on, so it's more of a laissez faire mentality. Other cities just don't want it around at any cost. All of those same Downey AMPs are still in business today.
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[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6452854]It has nothing to do with tax base. Massage is a service, and services aren't taxable in CA. Besides that, most of the hobby MPs are evading taxes anyway, not even following labor law and properly paying their staff which means they aren't even paying payroll taxes. It's all about the image the city wants to make for itself and what the residents want, property values and such. Cerritos is a city where someone will call the cops if you fart in their general direction, and the cops will show up.
Years ago, and we're talking 30 or so years ago, I was living in Downey and I spent a day on a ride along with a Downey PD cop. He actually showed me every AMP in town and pointed out all the identifying features. The neon open sign, the blacked out windows, the open late at night hours, etc. He said they know exactly what happens in there, but it's contained so they don't really care. As long as it isn't a public nuisance or drawing complaints it's there and they can monitor it. If they break it up it just drives what's happening in there to the cheap motels where there's other stuff like drug deals going on, so it's more of a laissez faire mentality. Other cities just don't want it around at any cost. All of those same Downey AMPs are still in business today.[/QUOTE]I can speak about HB specifically. The owners usually draw the attention of the city when they apply for a business license. They ask questions from their application and if there is any flags or things that don't add up they get put on notice. They will even send people to the place to see if what they claim they are doing (I. E. Nails for example) is indeed what is going on or if they offer other services on top of that. As mentioned above, they go off of complaints as well. Draw too much attention and it forces the cities hand to act. They also know when owners try and get someone to open the business under a family member or friend. Not sure if HB will be going the Irvine route per se, but they are making it harder for these places to open up.
[QUOTE=Alowicious;6452547]SGV most definitely. Valley Blvd is like Westminster Blvd -- if there's a MP on Valley, they offer a full menu. And there's lot of places on Valley. Lots of other places in the area, too. And plenty of AAMPs.[/QUOTE]Do you have any links for the AAMPs?
[QUOTE=Taws6;6452383]At one point in time, there were a ton of nice places in Irvine near JWA on Skypark. Those days sadly have passed, Irvine rolled them all up. As far as I know, there isn't a single MP in Irvine (I mean, I am sure there are, but below the radar, and I'm not privy to any intel saying otherwise).
Would be nice to see Irvine return to those times.[/QUOTE]Also what happened to the AAMPs?
[QUOTE=Taws6;6452383]At one point in time, there were a ton of nice places in Irvine near JWA on Skypark. Those days sadly have passed, Irvine rolled them all up. As far as I know, there isn't a single MP in Irvine (I mean, I am sure there are, but below the radar, and I'm not privy to any intel saying otherwise).
Would be nice to see Irvine return to those times.[/QUOTE]This comment has me pining for OK Acupressure on Skypark. Installed a LOT of pipe there in the 1990's. Shower before. Do the work. Shower after. Back to the job site.
Mr. P.
Any info about this place? Menu? Damage? Etc. PM if you wish.
Lala good body. B plus cups. Friendly as f. Good massage.
Not bad for $120. [URL]https://nightfunpages.com/come-on-over-new-asian-girls-40-per-30-minutes/[/URL].
Her names LaLa. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Sexaholic777;6453421]Lala good body. B plus cups. Friendly as f. Good massage.
Not bad for $120. [URL]https://nightfunpages.com/come-on-over-new-asian-girls-40-per-30-minutes/[/URL].
Her names LaLa. YMMV.[/QUOTE]What about looks?
[QUOTE=MiggySif;6451325]Decided to try it out. Texted the number and got a motel6 in Anaheim. Was told there were 2 girls. I showed up and got the room #. There was one very old grandma with a ton makeup, she looked like she belonged in Star Wars.
I noped the fuck out real quick.[/QUOTE]Met a couple "girls" on different occasions in Fullerton (both same hotel different times). They were older ladies, but I went with it.
Had a friend that visited Ontario girls from this site. Said those girls were decent, and said he has repeated.
YMMV.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6452854]It has nothing to do with tax base. Massage is a service, and services aren't taxable in CA. Besides that, most of the hobby MPs are evading taxes anyway, not even following labor law and properly paying their staff which means they aren't even paying payroll taxes. It's all about the image the city wants to make for itself and what the residents want, property values and such. Cerritos is a city where someone will call the cops if you fart in their general direction, and the cops will show up.
Years ago, and we're talking 30 or so years ago, I was living in Downey and I spent a day on a ride along with a Downey PD cop. He actually showed me every AMP in town and pointed out all the identifying features. The neon open sign, the blacked out windows, the open late at night hours, etc. He said they know exactly what happens in there, but it's contained so they don't really care. As long as it isn't a public nuisance or drawing complaints it's there and they can monitor it. If they break it up it just drives what's happening in there to the cheap motels where there's other stuff like drug deals going on, so it's more of a laissez faire mentality. Other cities just don't want it around at any cost. All of those same Downey AMPs are still in business today.[/QUOTE]Universally, MP's with services are in somewhat sleazy areas and often with an Asian influence but not always. Westminster, Garden Grove, Santa Ana, Lomita, Downey, Baldwin Park, Lawndale. Or down in San Diego on Convoy street. I suspect that the legit cities have "decent citizens" who don't want any seemly activities going on, so their police department cracks down. I used to get handy service in Huntington Beach and Fountain Valley but the PD come down hard on them and run them out. But by the same token, when the cops pull you over in HB they treat you pretty good too. So its kind of an overall climate of being a good area or a bad area. Perhaps the bad areas like Westminster, the cops are already run ragged chasing down real criminals, and places like Hermosa Beach or Huntington Beach or Irvine. The cops have little to do than to go after victimless crimes like a few dudes having a happy hour which does ot involve booze.
[QUOTE=StickyFingers;6452485]This is really helpful to keep in mind. Do you happen to know of any cities in LA or South Bay fall into either of these buckets?[/QUOTE]Valley Blvd (Alhambra, San Gabriel) was full of MP but always legit despite my best efforts. But from Rosemead east, they seemed to offer HJ or even FS at times. But this was a few years ago. What San Gabriel did was criminal. In that they ran most of the legit massage parlors out of business for no good reason other than the optics. Totally legit places closed down.
On the outsirts of Torrance, near the Harbor freeway is Lomita which is pretty much anything goes. There are even some Korean FS places in Lomita. Same for Downey. But in a place like Lawndale which is sufficiently sleazy for a healthy MP scene, the girls try to get you to self-serve which suggests they want to cooperate but are afraid of a bust.
There is also Tustin near the 57 - all handy shops over there within a half mile of the Target.
Anyone have recommendations for a younger provider that allows DFK/LFK? Hoping to get something on my day off today.
Kissing really turns me on and past few visits with providers have been nothing to write home about. Not trying to kiss the older providers I saw at Sarang and Rainbow paradise
[QUOTE=MiggySif;6451325]Decided to try it out. Texted the number and got a motel6 in Anaheim. Was told there were 2 girls. I showed up and got the room #. There was one very old grandma with a ton makeup, she looked like she belonged in Star Wars.
I noped the fuck out real quick.[/QUOTE]I was contacted by a different number also in Anaheim also for someone at a Motel 6. Despite being super horny as I couldn't contact my regs I did not go. I already know how it's going to end. Real old lady waiting. The booker will ask what happened when they damn know full well what happened. She's a dinosaur.
First time here. BBW not a looker, named Dani.
5 entry. I asked for CBJ only. Did not negotiate. So I tipped. 8.
Won't repeat.
Went to check out Ivy Massage in GG last month. It's a Viet MP on 2nd floor of same building as Little Beauty Center. Wasn't too excited about the first woman that greeted, so mamasan called another. The second one was younger and actually attractive looking, seemingly in early 30's (not sure). So I stayed and paid. 4 for hhr. In the room, she said the other girls ask 1. 4 or 1. 5 for FS, but she wanted a little more (likely 1. 6) as she's the youngest and prettiest. I only wanted BBBJ, and we settled on $. Her skill was okay, not the best, and the service was a bit rushed. But she did take her top off, got on the bed between my legs, facing me and made eye contact while blowing, so that's something. Allowed roaming and sucking of her nice natural breasts too. Only been in country less than a year, so her English skill could be limited. Not sure if all the girls there offer FS to all mongers, so your mileage will certainly vary. Number for that place: 7 x4-818-6340.
[QUOTE=FeMaiden;6453343]Any info about this place? Menu? Damage? Etc. PM if you wish.[/QUOTE]It has the same address as Lakeview Day which is / was located in a professional plaza in LH. I don't know if it's a different place. Haven't been to Lakeview in years. It was owned by an older lady from Eastern Europe.
[QUOTE=Alowicious;6446257]Decided to sleep in today. I get woken up by a text from one of my BB regulars who clearly rolled out of bed absolutely / desperate / for some dick. I tell her sure, sometime today. Half hour later she texts that she's into work early and hoping to see me right now. 10 more minutes and she tells me to meet me across the street at another MP she works at to which she has the keys, that doesn't open for another hour or so. At this point I'm thinking, "well, okay, how do I say No to one hell of a wild ride in a place we have all to ourselves? And away I go!
She opened the door before I even knocked, and before the door closed jumped me and went for a deep tonsil tickle. Never had a girl have to wipe herself / before / the deed because she was too wet!
I think we went through the whole Kama Sutra book twice. I lost count how many times she popped, but it was north of 20. I got three in myself. I can just imagine what the McD's drive-thru order-taker was hearing over the headset. I hope we cleaned the place up enough before we left.
She's always a wild ride, and always horny as all fuck. And I have a hard time saying No. Damn she wore me out. Hell of a way to start my day!
Be sure to check out Beauty Relax down in south county. Or the no-name place across the street upstairs in the rundown medical / office building behind the Mickey Dees on Rockfield. The first is usually FS and decent-looking providers. The second is always FS, often BB, by providers who F&C won't even take (except, thankfully, my wild ride girl).[/QUOTE]I think I know who you're talking about. She works at both places and does FS at both places. The rundown place is a better setting. The rooms are bigger, there's less traffic, and more privacy. The only downside is the lack of a bathroom inside.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6453872]Universally, MP's with services are in somewhat sleazy areas and often with an Asian influence but not always. Westminster, Garden Grove, Santa Ana, Lomita, Downey, Baldwin Park, Lawndale. Or down in San Diego on Convoy street. I suspect that the legit cities have "decent citizens" who don't want any seemly activities going on, so their police department cracks down. I used to get handy service in Huntington Beach and Fountain Valley but the PD come down hard on them and run them out. But by the same token, when the cops pull you over in HB they treat you pretty good too. So its kind of an overall climate of being a good area or a bad area. Perhaps the bad areas like Westminster, the cops are already run ragged chasing down real criminals, and places like Hermosa Beach or Huntington Beach or Irvine. The cops have little to do than to go after victimless crimes like a few dudes having a happy hour which does ot involve booze.[/QUOTE]Downey for a fact does not have much of an Asian influence. The city is mainly hispanic being about 70% and caucasian 30%.
Just started in hobby and went twice a week. Sometimes 3 x.
Best place ever.
[QUOTE=MrPlumber;6453342]This comment has me pining for OK Acupressure on Skypark. Installed a LOT of pipe there in the 1990's. Shower before. Do the work. Shower after. Back to the job site.
Mr. P.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CryMoarHoar;6454372]First time here. BBW not a looker, named Dani.
5 entry. I asked for CBJ only. Did not negotiate. So I tipped. 8.
Won't repeat.[/QUOTE]I paid $70 for Latina name Kiki.
[QUOTE=Superflytnt;6454310]I was contacted by a different number also in Anaheim also for someone at a Motel 6. Despite being super horny as I couldn't contact my regs I did not go. I already know how it's going to end. Real old lady waiting. The booker will ask what happened when they damn know full well what happened. She's a dinosaur.[/QUOTE]I got the skinny one. Late 30's. Big tits.
Pussy was tight. Skinny. $150 total. Not bad. YMMV.
[QUOTE=BlueberryScone;6454214]Anyone have recommendations for a younger provider that allows DFK/LFK? Hoping to get something on my day off today.
Kissing really turns me on and past few visits with providers have been nothing to write home about. Not trying to kiss the older providers I saw at Sarang and Rainbow paradise[/QUOTE]Why would you kiss that mouths that been on 20 cocks per day?
Just bang them. Make sure you wash your Dick and she washes her mouth. IMO.
These girls would never taste good unless you are the first one in the morning.
[QUOTE=SexyBeast14;6453456]What about looks?[/QUOTE]Not bad they also have this other spot.
[URL]https://nightfunpages.com/come-on-over-new-asian-girls-40-per-30-minutes/[/URL]
Not good as shell. But close no gilfs here LOL.
[QUOTE=Sexaholic777;6454675]Why would you kiss that mouths that been on 20 cocks per day?
Just bang them. Make sure you wash your Dick and she washes her mouth. IMO.
These girls would never taste good unless you are the first one in the morning.[/QUOTE]Thanks captain obvious! I like how I get crap for wanting to kiss but others eating out a woman no one bats an eye.
[QUOTE=BlueberryScone;6454701]Thanks captain obvious! I like how I get crap for wanting to kiss but others eating out a woman no one bats an eye.[/QUOTE]I didn't mean it like that. I don't eat puss or kiss.
Unless it's my gf that don't work at these places.
[QUOTE=Sexaholic777;6454743]I didn't mean it like that. I don't eat puss or kiss.
Unless it's my gf that don't work at these places.[/QUOTE]Famously Napoleon wrote to Josephine tell her he was on his way back to Paris, but requesting she not clean down there for a few days, so she would be nice and gamey by the time he arrived. Some of these girls working the AMP must be students of history because they have graciously provided an Eu du Sardene or Essence of Day old Hallibut. And that's what makes it real. Otherwise bring some saran wrap and lay a sheet of clear plastic down on the crevices of love, and lick without any taste.
[QUOTE=ShyBraveOC;6454640]Downey for a fact does not have much of an Asian influence. The city is mainly hispanic being about 70% and caucasian 30%.[/QUOTE]There are some Korean places there that offer a full menu. Grimmly knows more than me, but I think one was on Firestone. They don't have to live there. Its just their job.
[QUOTE=StuDoctor;6454606]I think I know who you're talking about. She works at both places and does FS at both places. The rundown place is a better setting. The rooms are bigger, there's less traffic, and more privacy. The only downside is the lack of a bathroom inside.[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about her, but this reminded me of an experience. I went to a place on PCH in Lomita and had a fine knob Polish. The girl gave me her number, and mentioned she worked in Huntington Beach a few days a week. It was a shorter drive so I went to see her in the other place. But she left me with balls as blue as the summer sky. She said MMS in HB told them no playing with the one eyed man snake. So same girl, different outcome because of the city pressure.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6454943]There are some Korean places there that offer a full menu. Grimmly knows more than me, but I think one was on Firestone. They don't have to live there. Its just their job.[/QUOTE]I lived in Downey for 24 years. It's been a while since I moved elsewhere, and it's not close to me anymore so I rarely go to Downey anymore. Yes, it's mostly white and Hispanic, but it does have 4 or 5 AMPs that have all been around and thriving for 30 years or more. Some of them have progressed to being all Asian to a mix of Asian and Latina. I've heard that ownership of a couple of them may have changed. But most of the MPs in town have been around for years and they've always been reliable.
The more prominent ones are Downey a massage on Paramount, M&A on Firestone, and All Seasons on Telegraph. Those are the old timers that have been around forever. There's also Ocean Spa on Lakewood which is a newer and smaller one with Chinese girls, and there's Havana which was a hot place for a while but kind of went downhill, and there's a smattering of others that have come and gone. At any given time I don't recall any less than 6 MPs open in town. My go to was Downey Massage which I lived within walking distance of. Actually it was two places. Downey Massage and Downey Therapy were separate shops less than a block apart under the same ownership. "Massage" had Latina girls and "Therapy" had Asian girls. During the pandemic they closed "massage" and merged everything into "therapy" and renamed everything "Downey Massage" with a mix of Asian and Latina. Last I went up there was a couple years ago but it was still the same reliable service I remembered from my years living up there.
It looks like the infamous Fair Drive is opening back up. Drove by today and did a loop in the parking lot. There are giant Spa banners hanging on the outside walls again, looks like a new place where Rose used to be at least, didn't do a walk through.
[QUOTE=StuDoctor;6454606]I think I know who you're talking about. She works at both places and does FS at both places. The rundown place is a better setting. The rooms are bigger, there's less traffic, and more privacy. The only downside is the lack of a bathroom inside.[/QUOTE]Wow she seems fun!! Whats her name??
[QUOTE=BlueberryScone;6454214]Anyone have recommendations for a younger provider that allows DFK/LFK? Hoping to get something on my day off today.
Kissing really turns me on and past few visits with providers have been nothing to write home about. Not trying to kiss the older providers I saw at Sarang and Rainbow paradise[/QUOTE]They are definitely out there. I know because I'm lucky enough to find one. Maybe it was just mutual physical attraction too.
Anyone have intel on Day Dream Spa on Goldenwest? Got a call from a legit Thai massage girl I hadn't seen in a few years, saying come see me at my new spa. She had been strictly legit before, but she worked at a high end Thai spa, where MMS rules with an iron fist, so I thought maybe she would open her menu up a bit at a new shop. The place looks like 100% guaranteed jack shack, or possibly more, so hopes climbed higher yet. However today's massage was legit, draped the whole time. On the way out though, MMS gave me this nasty look, like come see me next time, big fella. Maybe a few weeks there will corrupt my girl (Kim), which would be great cause she's damn cute, and MMS was a nasty GILF. Appreciate any intel you might have on this place. I do know it's within a stone's throw of several FS shops, and at a glance it looks no different from them.