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Is there anyone having prepaid issues again? I've tried three methods, OneVanilla Visa, OneVanilla Mastercard, and a Visa Gift Card. The OneVanilla through paypal guest worked last time, but am hitting a snag this time. I followed M9999's method on the paypal guest again this time but with no joy. Any intel?
Is there anyone having prepaid issues again? I've tried three methods, OneVanilla Visa, OneVanilla Mastercard, and a Visa Gift Card. The OneVanilla through paypal guest worked last time, but am hitting a snag this time. I followed M9999's method on the paypal guest again this time but with no joy. Any intel? I also saw where some called customer service and they took it right then successfully, but for the life of me. I can't track down a number.
[QUOTE=JoyDrop;3053310]I can't recommend Google Voice highly enough. As others in the thread have mentioned, getting caught with a burner phone is a sign that you're guilty of something, even if your SO doesn't know exactly what. [/QUOTE]Eh, if true secrecy is the goal, I suggest it isn't a question of which one, rather it should be BOTH! GV layered on top of a burner! This gives you advantages: 1) First layer of protection is Block the person with GV, second layer is DUMP the GV # and start over and third level of protection is dump the burner and start over with new number & GV #. 2) It is easier to "compartmentalize" when there is a physical difference between the worlds. 3) Have known guys who leave the GV open or running during family time to only have to "explain things" when contacts come at the wrong time. It is easier when the Sugar phone is turned off. If one always has a alibi set up for where there are, why wouldn't it be as easy to have one for the burner? Again, and explanation delivered in a calm manner usually quells things.
Otherwise good advice and "how to" on GV. Also like your comments on OpSec: can NEVER let your guard down. EVER!
[QUOTE=JoyDrop;3053310]The other thing I'd encourage you to do is to setup a Google account for all of your SD activity. Use gmail for emails, use GV for calls & texts, use Google Drive to save all of the pics your girl sends you. That way you keep nothing on your computer, there's nothing for your SO to find after you've closed your private browsing window.[/QUOTE]Here is another place where I differ a bit. Thought I saw where you were using Chrome? Google and all of its offspring are master trackers. After all that is their bread & butter. I strongly suggest using a VPN or VPN style browser such as Tor. It works on PC, Mac & Android. Probably works on iPhone too? It is based on Firefox, so suspect apps that do the same things are available. No point in leaving IP bread crumbs laying around.
[QUOTE=JoyDrop;3053310]One final point about Facebook that a lot of SD's don't seem to be aware of. If you constantly check another user's profile, Facebook will eventually suggest you to that other person as a friend they may know. Put another way, BROWSING OTHER PROFILES IS NOT ANONYMOUS. Think about that for a second. If you are logged in under your real profile and you constantly check your SB's profile, she will get a friend suggestion with your real name on it. I have verified this first hand. So the best thing you can do is use either your sugar profile to keep up with your SB, or even better, use a 3rd profile for research purposes. My 3rd profile is actually setup as a girl, that way it doesn't arouse any suspicion when I check the same profiles over and over again.[/QUOTE]How does one set up multiple profiles on FB? Are the ones you have set up several years ago?
Any tips for trying to transition off of SA to other forms of contact? Is better to wait till after m&g? I'd prefer to transition off as quickly as possible, it's highly tedious.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3054635]Eh, if true secrecy is the goal, I suggest it isn't a question of which one, rather it should be BOTH! GV layered on top of a burner! This gives you advantages: 1) First layer of protection is Block the person with GV, second layer is DUMP the GV # and start over and third level of protection is dump the burner and start over with new number & GV #. 2) It is easier to "compartmentalize" when there is a physical difference between the worlds. 3) Have known guys who leave the GV open or running during family time to only have to "explain things" when contacts come at the wrong time. It is easier when the Sugar phone is turned off. If one always has a alibi set up for where there are, why wouldn't it be as easy to have one for the burner? Again, and explanation delivered in a calm manner usually quells things.
Otherwise good advice and "how to" on GV. Also like your comments on OpSec: can NEVER let your guard down. EVER!
Here is another place where I differ a bit. Thought I saw where you were using Chrome? Google and all of its offspring are master trackers. After all that is their bread & butter. I strongly suggest using a VPN or VPN style browser such as Tor. It works on PC, Mac & Android. Probably works on iPhone too? It is based on Firefox, so suspect apps that do the same things are available. No point in leaving IP bread crumbs laying around.
How does one set up multiple profiles on FB? Are the ones you have set up several years ago?[/QUOTE]One issue you may find with tor is certain websites that they rely on specific code to run. You may have trouble looking into some websites etc, you maybe able to tweak some settings but everything comes with a cost.
Seriously though, I hit the bowl about 2. 5 months ago and the advice in this thread has been invaluable. Oddly enough, in all that time, I can't recall someone posting how they handle the following scenario.
I went out of town for a week. During that time, I was chatting up quite a few girls at home. Now I'm home and I literally have too many girls wanting an arrangement. I don't have the time (married) or funds to keep them all. Realistically I can probably only keep one at this time, and I'm choosing the one from last night. She asks for 150/ date and 2 dates a week and was amazing in bed last night. She can host during the day (which I can swing once a week) so I'm not paying for a hotel every single time either, which is a plus.
The problem I'm currently facing is the fact that some of these other girls are also very attractive and seem very sweet. I won't be able to keep them happy if I'm only seeing them every few weeks, and I can't afford to see them more often than that. I understand at this point in time I'll have to release them back into the wild, but what I'm wondering is how can I do this while keeping things kosher so in the future I can try to reach out and reignite?
[QUOTE=Tc9869;3055356]Seriously though, I hit the bowl about 2. 5 months ago and the advice in this thread has been invaluable. Oddly enough, in all that time, I can't recall someone posting how they handle the following scenario.
I went out of town for a week. During that time, I was chatting up quite a few girls at home. Now I'm home and I literally have too many girls wanting an arrangement. I don't have the time (married) or funds to keep them all. Realistically I can probably only keep one at this time, and I'm choosing the one from last night. She asks for 150/ date and 2 dates a week and was amazing in bed last night. She can host during the day (which I can swing once a week) so I'm not paying for a hotel every single time either, which is a plus.
The problem I'm currently facing is the fact that some of these other girls are also very attractive and seem very sweet. I won't be able to keep them happy if I'm only seeing them every few weeks, and I can't afford to see them more often than that. I understand at this point in time I'll have to release them back into the wild, but what I'm wondering is how can I do this while keeping things kosher so in the future I can try to reach out and reignite?[/QUOTE]If they have a profile up they are already released so don't worry about it. Tell them you found someone and trying it fir a month. If it doesn't work you will contact them later to see if available.
Pretty much after the first 2 or 3 exchanges on SA I simply say do you mind moving this to text. 9 times out of 10 it's no problem. I also offer kik or whatsap as options to my babies as well. These two apps aren't my preference because they're phone-based only apps and I'd much rather use a computer and keyboard to text. I'm an old-school touch-typer, so it's just faster for me, LOL But, some of the babies are more comfy with those because of security as well. My phone-texting skills are improving though.
Good Hunting!
Travelin.
[QUOTE=Moohk;3054696]Any tips for trying to transition off of SA to other forms of contact? Is better to wait till after m&g? I'd prefer to transition off as quickly as possible, it's highly tedious.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=tc9869;3055356]seriously though, i hit the bowl about 2. 5 months ago and the advice in this thread has been invaluable. Oddly enough, in all that time, i can't recall someone posting how they handle the following scenario.
I went out of town for a week. During that time, i was chatting up quite a few girls at home. Now i'm home and i literally have too many girls wanting an arrangement. I don't have the time (married) or funds to keep them all. Realistically i can probably only keep one at this time, and i'm choosing the one from last night. She asks for 150/ date and 2 dates a week and was amazing in bed last night. She can host during the day (which i can swing once a week) so i'm not paying for a hotel every single time either, which is a plus.
The problem i'm currently facing is the fact that some of these other girls are also very attractive and seem very sweet. I won't be able to keep them happy if i'm only seeing them every few weeks, and i can't afford to see them more often than that. I understand at this point in time i'll have to release them back into the wild, but what i'm wondering is how can i do this while keeping things kosher so in the future i can try to reach out and reignite?[/QUOTE]Wow! You hit the jackpot with that beauty!
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3054635]Eh, if true secrecy is the goal, I suggest it isn't a question of which one, rather it should be BOTH! GV layered on top of a burner! This gives you advantages: 1) First layer of protection is Block the person with GV, second layer is DUMP the GV # and start over and third level of protection is dump the burner and start over with new number & GV #. 2) It is easier to "compartmentalize" when there is a physical difference between the worlds. 3) Have known guys who leave the GV open or running during family time to only have to "explain things" when contacts come at the wrong time. It is easier when the Sugar phone is turned off. If one always has a alibi set up for where there are, why wouldn't it be as easy to have one for the burner? Again, and explanation delivered in a calm manner usually quells things. [/QUOTE]So, which service specifically do you recommend for the burner? I am thinking of getting a burner that matches exactly my regular phone, with a tiny differentiating mark, so if it is seen it won't be noticed. Hide in plain sight. If I don't do that, if I install a GV client on my phone and use it to text or call a SB, how does that show up on my bill? My bill lists all the calls explicitly, and I share the account with the SO.
[QUOTE] How does one set up multiple profiles on FB? Are the ones you have set up several years ago?[/QUOTE]I just did this. I used my sugar phone # to start that process. Just go to the site and use the 'new' option. I used my SA photo (cut off at the nose) as the profile picture and other info relevant to my SA identity. I have posted elsewhere about the shocking experience to have FB suggest as a friend a girl I chatted with on SA but never met, and I am not even sure if she had given me her phone # - of course, different personal details than she had told me about (a BF, different name, but undoubtedly the same girl).
When the baby is getting ready to bolt?
My SO is naturally very suspicious, owing to being cheated on cruelly in a past marriage. She has accused me like 10000 times of doing something based on the flimsiest of evidence (the headrest on the passenger seat moved. There must have been another woman in my car). She was never right. A few other times I did leave loose something suggestive she didn't pick up on it. I concluded her radar on this topic is actually poor, so I shouldn't worry as much as I otherwise might. This did embolden me to move into the bowl. I think her ranting was just a scare tactic to try to keep me in line. It didn't work. LOL. Another thought is that a SO who's a 'still waters run deep' type may actually be suspecting but is waiting to pounce on an inopportune gaffe. Don't think you're in the clear just b / c it's quiet. Just b / c you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. Ha.
For those you want to put on the back burner just come up with a story that sticks. Something in the lines that your work is sending you out of town on an assignment for a month or so. Also, keep in touch once in a while over text or even tell them something like I'll back in town for few days before I travel again would you like to catch up over couple drinks. That might convert into a car date and may not run you as much as a regular allowance but still keep your SB warm enough for you.
[QUOTE=Tc9869;3055356]Seriously though, I hit the bowl about 2. 5 months ago and the advice in this thread has been invaluable. Oddly enough, in all that time, I can't recall someone posting how they handle the following scenario.
I went out of town for a week. During that time, I was chatting up quite a few girls at home. Now I'm home and I literally have too many girls wanting an arrangement. I don't have the time (married) or funds to keep them all. Realistically I can probably only keep one at this time, and I'm choosing the one from last night. She asks for 150/ date and 2 dates a week and was amazing in bed last night. She can host during the day (which I can swing once a week) so I'm not paying for a hotel every single time either, which is a plus.
The problem I'm currently facing is the fact that some of these other girls are also very attractive and seem very sweet. I won't be able to keep them happy if I'm only seeing them every few weeks, and I can't afford to see them more often than that. I understand at this point in time I'll have to release them back into the wild, but what I'm wondering is how can I do this while keeping things kosher so in the future I can try to reach out and reignite?[/QUOTE]
Not to hijack, but I just wanted to clarify that websites don't rely on your IP for personal identification. They do use it for things like Geolocation and what time zone you're in. If they went by your IP, every computer at your home or office would look the same, so for purposes of mongering / sugaring, I don't think there's any point in hiding behind a VPN. Sites mainly track users based on a combination of cookies, super-cookies and browser fingerprints, such as screen resolution, browser version, etc. You can try disabling tracking, block cookies or use a privacy-hardened browser such as Epic (which BTW has a built-in VPN), however you will find that many websites won't load correctly due to disabled javascript, cookies, etc.
In my opinion, if you don't want your extracurricular activities to cross contaminate your regular personal / work computer, it's best to set up a virtual PC inside you regular PC. It works just like a separate, virgin PC but without a physical body. Fire it up and load your normal browser and login to your alter ego Google, FB, SA account, etc. Who cares if the info leaks between these. Might be good actually. If set up properly, your virtual PC won't see or know about your regular PC (called the 'host') let alone be able to leak info off it. Plus you can take it with you and load it onto just about any computer anywhere in the world and all your programs, logins, browser history, everything will be there. When you're done, just shut it down, save it to a flash drive if you're extra paranoid, until the next time you need to go online.
(Admins, please feel free to delete if this stuff is too technical / inappropriate / wrong section).
[QUOTE=Assaholic;3055731]Not to hijack, but I just wanted to clarify that websites don't rely on your IP for personal identification. They do use it for things like Geolocation and what time zone you're in. If they went by your IP, every computer at your home or office would look the same, so for purposes of mongering / sugaring, I don't think there's any point in hiding behind a VPN. Sites mainly track users based on a combination of cookies, super-cookies and browser fingerprints, such as screen resolution, browser version, etc. You can try disabling tracking, block cookies or use a privacy-hardened browser such as Epic (which BTW has a built-in VPN), however you will find that many websites won't load correctly due to disabled javascript, cookies, etc.
In my opinion, if you don't want your extracurricular activities to cross contaminate your regular personal / work computer, it's best to set up a virtual PC inside you regular PC. It works just like a separate, virgin PC but without a physical body. Fire it up and load your normal browser and login to your alter ego Google, FB, SA account, etc. Who cares if the info leaks between these. Might be good actually. If set up properly, your virtual PC won't see or know about your regular PC (called the 'host') let alone be able to leak info off it. Plus you can take it with you and load it onto just about any computer anywhere in the world and all your programs, logins, browser history, everything will be there. When you're done, just shut it down, save it to a flash drive if you're extra paranoid, until the next time you need to go online.
(Admins, please feel free to delete if this stuff is too technical / inappropriate / wrong section).[/QUOTE]Does this work on OSX? I couldn't find an example -.
Also, my worry is bread crumbs I often find myself. And I routinely search for cookies, history, etc. Based on the sites I visit (this one, SA, CL, etc.) Sometimes I miss setting a browser to private. If I use Tor, I don't have to worry. It's always private.