Massage Parlor Reports

I wanted to check this place out as well, so I made an appt with Mayumi. Was told that the pic on the ad is real, which I know isn't true, but I thought at least it might be close. Arrived and knocked on the door. It opens and a woman is standing behind the door in a bikini top and some type of wrap on the bottom. I asked who she was and she said Mayumi. She stood about 5-1 maybe around 105 lbs. Slim. Fake boobs, probably about a large B or small C. She looked like she was in her 40's and maybe thai nationality. I'd rate her looks about a 6.

Can't comment on her service. I was in the mood for something at least close to the BP pics and I wasn't getting it here so I left.

I sincerely think that Asian women are better at sex than American women. I had sex with this girl Yas the other day, she made me feel like I was in ecstasy. She was really good.

[QUOTE=HornyBoy13;3367996]I sincerely think that Asian women are better at sex than American women. I had sex with this girl Yas the other day, she made me feel like I was in ecstasy. She was really good.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree that Asian women are way better in sex than American women. Asian women are way better than local girls too. I've had my share of "American women, Local Hawaiian Mix women, Local Hapa Mix women but without a doubt IMHO Asian women specifically Korean and Chinese women are Way Better in Sex; the Asian women do things that porn stars do and some even do it better than porn stars. YMMV and TEHO.

On another note I've had Local Asian women too, but they can't compare with Korean and Chinese Asian women!

Maybe I shouldn't say all women because I've never had black women. Ive had the opportunity to fuck black women but decided to pass up the opportunity; guess it's TEHO.

[QUOTE=DaaBoy;3367940]I wanted to check this place out as well, so I made an appt with Mayumi. Was told that the pic on the ad is real, which I know isn't true, but I thought at least it might be close. Arrived and knocked on the door. It opens and a woman is standing behind the door in a bikini top and some type of wrap on the bottom. I asked who she was and she said Mayumi. She stood about 5-1 maybe around 105 lbs. Slim. Fake boobs, probably about a large B or small C. She looked like she was in her 40's and maybe thai nationality. I'd rate her looks about a 6.

Can't comment on her service. I was in the mood for something at least close to the BP pics and I wasn't getting it here so I left.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting 411 on Mayumi. I was tempted but I had the feeling it was an Asian model photo.

I couldn't believe another post saying that the photo was real. Got to go back and see who posted that claim!

Hey guys,

Heading back to hawaii in a week or two. Is VIP still around? Don't see them on google map anymore. If not, what place is similar?

TIA.

[QUOTE=HornyOC;3370077]Hey guys,

Heading back to hawaii in a week or two. Is VIP still around? Don't see them on google map anymore. If not, what place is similar?

TIA.[/QUOTE]I think they got raided this past week if I'm not mistaken.

[QUOTE=HapyGilmore;3369638]Thanks for posting 411 on Mayumi. I was tempted but I had the feeling it was an Asian model photo.

I couldn't believe another post saying that the photo was real. Got to go back and see who posted that claim![/QUOTE]Careful Hapy.

I posted a report on Anita that stated that her pictures WERE REAL. At the end of that extensive report, I stated that I saw a girl get off the elevator who looked a lot like the photos of Mayumi. Not that it was actually her. The passing glance showed resemblance but was far too quick for confirmation and no claim of certainty was made.

Sorry if that statement was misunderstood by DaaBoy. On the other hand, he may have gotten his assurance elsewhere.

[QUOTE=HornyOC;3370077]Hey guys,

Heading back to hawaii in a week or two. Is VIP still around? Don't see them on google map anymore. If not, what place is similar?

TIA.[/QUOTE]According to news reports, yesterday two women, allegedly owners and/or management of VIP, were arrested at VIP because they had been indicted by a grand jury on felony charges of promoting prostitution and illegal ownership of a prohibited business. The raid included personnel from the city prosecutor's office, HPD and Homeland Security. So there may be issues of whether VIP will continue to operate and if so, whether customers would feel comfortable going there at the present time.

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3370129]According to news reports, yesterday two women, allegedly owners and/or management of VIP, were arrested at VIP because they had been indicted by a grand jury on felony charges of promoting prostitution and illegal ownership of a prohibited business. The raid included personnel from the city prosecutor's office, HPD and Homeland Security. So there may be issues of whether VIP will continue to operate and if so, whether customers would feel comfortable going there at the present time.[/QUOTE]Wow. Maybe dodged a bullet? Would have suck for any Johns to be caught in this hobby. Need to find a new place. Is there any aamp that is worthwhile? Is the going rate for FS still two c-notes?

[QUOTE=HornyOC;3370167]Wow. Maybe dodged a bullet? Would have suck for any Johns to be caught in this hobby. Need to find a new place. Is there any aamp that is worthwhile?[/QUOTE]Although I haven't recently been active at AMPs, from the forum it seems that places such as Dream, Rejuve and Happiness (all have their own threads) are popular and have better reputations than VIP. For relatively "mature" providers who usually are willing to provide bbfscip, personally I like Kison.

[QUOTE=HornyOC;3370167] Is the going rate for FS still two c-notes?[/QUOTE]As far as I know, the going rate is usually a $50 house fee (or a $60 house fee at a few places), and then a $150 tip to the provider for a satisfactory session. (At places with a $60 house fee, some guys reduce their standard tip to $140 to keep the total expenditure at $200.)

[QUOTE=HornyOC;3370167]Wow. Maybe dodged a bullet? Would have suck for any Johns to be caught in this hobby. Need to find a new place. Is there any aamp that is worthwhile? Is the going rate for FS still two c-notes?[/QUOTE]If you're looking for white girls, Dream has a couple.

[QUOTE=Bikini;3370278]If you're looking for white girls, Dream has a couple.[/QUOTE]Hula also has one or two, usually. Word of caution about Hula — service varies widely with each girl. I've had girls try to upsell, another with lots of rules and then you have girls like Jolie (half French, half Thai) that does great service. (She might be the only girl there worth seeing.).

Vivian and Leia at Dream are consistent in their excellent service.

So did VIP bust happen one by one (separately) or onece at a time?

If things happen one by one, it is suspicious why cops could catch them that way?

And in most bust cases, it was girls on duty who offer joint shower, massage (guys you know girls need license for washing and giving massage for profit) or ask upfront charge for sexual activity.

It is not usual cop took owner itself for just simple prostitution case.

Does HPD change their policy or something more serious like immigration, drug, exploitation, tax evasion issue?

Guys it is time to understand why new place (which can't recognize you as regular) may not welcome you and try to make you leave.

[QUOTE=FCH300;3370114]Careful Hapy.

I posted a report on Anita that stated that her pictures WERE REAL. At the end of that extensive report, I stated that I saw a girl get off the elevator who looked a lot like the photos of Mayumi. Not that it was actually her. The passing glance showed resemblance but was far too quick for confirmation and no claim of certainty was made.

Sorry if that statement was misunderstood by DaaBoy. On the other hand, he may have gotten his assurance elsewhere.[/QUOTE]My bad, I should've been more clear in my post. I got confirmation that the pic was real from Himawari directly. When I texted for appointment, I also asked if her pic was real. The reply was "yes, real picture". Of course I knew it wasn't a real picture, but I wanted to see what they'd say and I was kind of hoping it'd at least be close.

[QUOTE=DaaBoy;3370619]My bad, I should've been more clear in my post. I got confirmation that the pic was real from Himawari directly. When I texted for appointment, I also asked if her pic was real. The reply was "yes, real picture". Of course I knew it wasn't a real picture, but I wanted to see what they'd say and I was kind of hoping it'd at least be close.[/QUOTE]Thanks for speaking up DaaBoy. I didn't want either a war or a rep for bad info on the board. Appreciate you taking me off the hook!

Any local girls that provides good service?

[QUOTE=HornyBoy13;3367996]I sincerely think that Asian women are better at sex than American women. I had sex with this girl Yas the other day, she made me feel like I was in ecstasy. She was really good.[/QUOTE]I don't think Asians are better in sex.

They may have tighter box.

White girls take a bigger pipe than Asians.

Some of these Chinese girls sweat with pain with a bigger pipe.

Most Asians can ride but not as good as the white girls.

Asian girls pop faster while riding.

But if you prefer a fresh young body.

A white 20 year may look like they're in their 30's boobs not so firm.

A Chinese girl in their 30's may still look like they're in their 20's and still have perky tits.

[QUOTE=Licentious;3372507]I don't think Asians are better in sex.

They may have tighter box.


White girls take a bigger pipe than Asians.

Some of these Chinese girls sweat with pain with a bigger pipe.

Most Asians can ride but not as good as the white girls.

Asian girls pop faster while riding.

But if you prefer a fresh young body.

A white 20 year may look like they're in their 30's boobs not so firm.

A Chinese girl in their 30's may still look like they're in their 20's and still have perky tits.[/QUOTE]I agree white girls can take big dick easily. I had that girl Erin, she took me in like a champ. But I'm talking about lovemaking here. The whole touching, kissing, licking in my experience Asian women are the best in my book.

[QUOTE=HornyBoy13;3372474]Any local girls that provides good service?[/QUOTE]Only provider that I felt like I was with a Local girl was Kana at Dream. She is a spinner with a tight body. Top service. She is well reviewed and can't remember if I ever saw a bad review on her. She looks like a local Filipino girl. Big boobs and a cute ass. GFE for sure. She is very popular so make an appointment. Have fun.

[QUOTE=DeMeter;3370411]So did VIP bust happen one by one (separately) or onece at a time?

If things happen one by one, it is suspicious why cops could catch them that way?

And in most bust cases, it was girls on duty who offer joint shower, massage (guys you know girls need license for washing and giving massage for profit) or ask upfront charge for sexual activity.

It is not usual cop took owner itself for just simple prostitution case.

Does HPD change their policy or something more serious like immigration, drug, exploitation, tax evasion issue?

Guys it is time to understand why new place (which can't recognize you as regular) may not welcome you and try to make you leave.[/QUOTE]I don't think this is a knee-jerk bust. They were probably under investigation for quite awhile with plenty of evidence gathered for a successful prosecution (electronic surveillance, unpaid taxes on revenue, money laundering, parties willing to testify for the prosecution, RICO violations, Mann Act violations, etc). I think a big part is if the prosecution has parties willing to testify. I'd bet a few mongerers were captured on video surveillance too, lol. Most likely the owners will have their property seized and financial accounts frozen pending outcome of trial.

[QUOTE=Idusixtyning;3372775]I don't think this is a knee-jerk bust. They were probably under investigation for quite awhile with plenty of evidence gathered for a successful prosecution (electronic surveillance, unpaid taxes on revenue, money laundering, parties willing to testify for the prosecution, RICO violations, Mann Act violations, etc). I think a big part is if the prosecution has parties willing to testify. I'd bet a few mongerers were captured on video surveillance too, lol. Most likely the owners will have their property seized and financial accounts frozen pending outcome of trial.[/QUOTE]It looks like the new focus for uncle LEO is the owners and less on the providers. It can't be that difficult for the prosecutors to get providers to testify against ownership. Isn't that what the Feds did to Ivy at Empire?

[QUOTE=FCH300;3371260]Thanks for speaking up DaaBoy. I didn't want either a war or a rep for bad info on the board. Appreciate you taking me off the hook![/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing the info up. I'm just frustrated going to a MP thinking that the girl was somewhat close to the BP ad only. To find out otherwise. At least the Honolulu boards are filled with info compared to some of the mainland ones. Trust in the Hood and Be Safe!

[QUOTE=Idusixtyning;3372775]I don't think this is a knee-jerk bust. They were probably under investigation for quite awhile with plenty of evidence gathered for a successful prosecution. [/QUOTE]That sounds about right. The fact that the arrest took place following an Oahu grand jury indictment of the owner indicate it as so. Sounds similar to the Gogo case.

Is it me, or has there been a lot of CC Thai massage places changing rooms lately. (owners and ladies also?) While some phone numbers stayed the same, their recommending girls in other rooms. Mena in 2701 (or was?) whos on temporary leave, referred me to Spaya Thai instead of one of the other ladies in her room. I also remember something similar about 2 weeks ago, when I called one of the other regular places, (same business name and number) -person answering phone didn't know any girl I mentioned from that room.

[QUOTE=HappySeeker8;3374370]Is it me, or has there been a lot of CC Thai massage places changing rooms lately. (owners and ladies also?) While some phone numbers stayed the same, their recommending girls in other rooms. Mena in 2701 (or was?) whos on temporary leave, referred me to Spaya Thai instead of one of the other ladies in her room. I also remember something similar about 2 weeks ago, when I called one of the other regular places, (same business name and number) -person answering phone didn't know any girl I mentioned from that room.[/QUOTE]I also see "Thai" advertising as room 2701 now. I thought she was head of a room on 24th floor?

[QUOTE=Blake123;3373432]That sounds about right. The fact that the arrest took place following an Oahu grand jury indictment of the owner indicate it as so. Sounds similar to the Gogo case.[/QUOTE]Remember also, there has to be convincing evidence presented to a grand jury, to get an indictment. So you guys are right-its not a knee jerk thing, its evidence built up over time.

[QUOTE=HappySeeker8;3374370]Is it me, or has there been a lot of CC Thai massage places changing rooms lately. (owners and ladies also?) While some phone numbers stayed the same, their recommending girls in other rooms. Mena in 2701 (or was?) whos on temporary leave, referred me to Spaya Thai instead of one of the other ladies in her room. I also remember something similar about 2 weeks ago, when I called one of the other regular places, (same business name and number) -person answering phone didn't know any girl I mentioned from that room.[/QUOTE]I have a studio in CC. I see a lot of comings and goings. Management here is not the best but the trade off is you are 1-2 minutes from a lot of spas. From what I can tell most owners all know each other and trade personnel like baseball teams trade players. If you stay on top of things its like following a baseball team. You get to know all the players even if there are lots of trades. In the end, don't stress over it. Just find a good place and stick with it. Eventually personnel will rotate out, but some stick around for years while others are just visitors. I used to engage in conversations and get their story, such as visiting from Korea for Japan for 3 months, going to college, etc. Most are lies and covers so I stopped asking questions. I really like the location even though it takes a long time to get stuff fixed. Just far enough away from Waikiki and also just close enough. You would think with being in CC I'd be going to a spa every day but its more like once every week or two, often later at night when I'm lonely or can't sleep. One time I got a discount for going to Sam's club to pick up some supplies. My impression is these place are well managed and somehow have connection with the landlord. Even with good English I get mixed messages. Like I said, none of my business and probably best I don't know.

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;3374748]I have a studio in CC. I see a lot of comings and goings. Management here is not the best but the trade off is you are 1-2 minutes from a lot of spas. From what I can tell most owners all know each other and trade personnel like baseball teams trade players. If you stay on top of things its like following a baseball team. You get to know all the players even if there are lots of trades. In the end, don't stress over it. Just find a good place and stick with it. Eventually personnel will rotate out, but some stick around for years while others are just visitors. I used to engage in conversations and get their story, such as visiting from Korea for Japan for 3 months, going to college, etc. Most are lies and covers so I stopped asking questions. I really like the location even though it takes a long time to get stuff fixed. Just far enough away from Waikiki and also just close enough. You would think with being in CC I'd be going to a spa every day but its more like once every week or two, often later at night when I'm lonely or can't sleep. One time I got a discount for going to Sam's club to pick up some supplies. My impression is these place are well managed and somehow have connection with the landlord. Even with good English I get mixed messages. Like I said, none of my business and probably best I don't know.[/QUOTE]Wow, you have a place in CC? So convenient LOL All you got to do is take a few flights up or down. Lucky you. I'd probably be like you and go at least once a week.

I had to go back 7 pages to figure out CC is Century Center, where I found post #32591, and then I had to do an Internet search to learn Century Center is a condominium rather than, for example, a section of Honolulu or a shopping center. It seems users of this web site over-use abbreviations. "CC" does not appear in the list of abbreviations on this web site, including regional abbreviations.

Still too many rumors here now.

For all please share information that you know.

Not VIP this time, but I heard of another place bust.

Still rumor. Not confirmed yet.

[QUOTE=RoloMyOlo;3374782]Wow, you have a place in CC? So convenient LOL All you got to do is take a few flights up or down. Lucky you. I'd probably be like you and go at least once a week.[/QUOTE]One of the major problems with these forums are all the newbies and mis-classifications of putting things where they do not belong.

Century Center Thai Massage locations are not Massage Parlors. Don't get me wrong, there are Massage Parlors (AMP's) in CC, but the Thai establishments are based on massage and should be placed in the thread for "Massage Therapists". Let's try to get on the same page here!

If we continue to create new thread every time there is a new place or a consolidation of resources to create a new place, we are feeding into the deception.

What are we looking for? If it is a massage with HE, or more, it is pretty simple; it is a "Massage Therapist". If more, it is a "Massage Parlor". If we are looking for a good massage with or without HE, let's focus on the thread titled "Massage Therapists". Why complicate a simple process! Let's work together here!

There are also "Escorts", which are mostly independent and it all becomes more complicated.

Quick recap:

Massage Parlors = AMP's.

Massage Therapists = a good massage with HE.

Independents = Backpage / Craigslist Escorts and Massage.

Let's try to help each other and the providers and stop complicating matters!

My 2 cents.

CS.

[QUOTE=CloeStone;3375050]One of the major problems with these forums are all the newbies and mis-classifications of putting things where they do not belong. ....
Massage Therapists = a good massage with HE. .... My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Settling on definitions can be difficult. I know a massage therapist who bristles at the suggestion a "massage therapist" does anything sexual, including hand jobs. By "therapeutic" people who do massage seem to mean "non-sexual. " However, I consider hand jobs to be therapeutic, since in some studies frequent ejaculation reduces prostate cancer risk.

[QUOTE=ParamAhmad;3375290]Settling on definitions can be difficult. I know a massage therapist who bristles at the suggestion a "massage therapist" does anything sexual, including hand jobs. By "therapeutic" people who do massage seem to mean "non-sexual. " However, I consider hand jobs to be therapeutic, since in some studies frequent ejaculation reduces prostate cancer risk.[/QUOTE]What Mr. Stone is describing is the custom and practice of the HAWAII mongers in this forum, not a "technical" definition. We are not "settling" on anything, for those of us who have been here for years now, these are pretty firm standards.

Much Mahalos to Mr. Stone for setting things straight.

BJ.

[QUOTE=BJHawaii;3375527]What Mr. Stone is describing is the custom and practice of the HAWAII mongers in this forum, not a "technical" definition. We are not "settling" on anything, for those of us who have been here for years now, these are pretty firm standards.

Much Mahalos to Mr. Stone for setting things straight.

BJ.[/QUOTE]And it appears, based on past forum posts, both Param Ahmad and Looking For Lefty may not be permanent Hawaii residents as most of their posts are for forums in other locales around the country, and even internationally. I did only a quick check so I may not have gotten all this correct. Others may follow up.

[QUOTE=ParamAhmad;3374794]I had to go back 7 pages to figure out CC is Century Center, where I found post #32591, and then I had to do an Internet search to learn Century Center is a condominium rather than, for example, a section of Honolulu or a shopping center. It seems users of this web site over-use abbreviations. "CC" does not appear in the list of abbreviations on this web site, including regional abbreviations.[/QUOTE]Or you can ask someone; usually the guys will answer. These places have been mentioned so heavily over a period of years that they are abbreviated in posts.

Similarly, CS is Century Square in downtown Honolulu; EC is Executive Center, just down the street from CS; EG is Evergreen, the 4 am bar on Kapiolani Boulevard, etc.

[QUOTE=HappySeeker8;3374629]I also see "Thai" advertising as room 2701 now. I thought she was head of a room on 24th floor?[/QUOTE]She was working for Vera, recently contemplating a move.

[QUOTE=Kalani69;3375744]And it appears, based on past forum posts, both Param Ahmad and Looking For Lefty may not be permanent Hawaii residents as most of their posts are for forums in other locales around the country, and even internationally. I did only a quick check so I may not have gotten all this correct. Others may follow up.[/QUOTE]Yep a Haole for winter months. CC is condos but many are subleased. I am not sure if I will be back next year. Might to go Maui and live among the trantricas. Thats a whole other world of hobbying. I feel safe at CC and it can be eerily quiet at times. I don't have a car and the location is walking distance to things I need. Maui I will need a car. I tried Kauai and Big Island for short stays and quality and service were so minimal. Maybe I just was looking in the wrong places.

I have been to Florida and slept with white, Black, Hispanic girls. But Hawaii providers are more wild in my opinion. Hawaii is a monger paradise. Asian girls are sex expert.

Any information about Cherry from Empire? PM IS OKAY. MUCH MAHALO.

[QUOTE=HornyBoy13;3376171]I have been to Florida and slept with white, Black, Hispanic girls. But Hawaii providers are more wild in my opinion. Hawaii is a monger paradise. Asian girls are sex expert.[/QUOTE]Most of the women doing sex work in the AMPs here are not just Asians but Koreans specifically. Maybe we sort of take this situation for granted since us mongers in Hawaii are used to it, but how come in Honolulu so many Koreans work as providers? What's the history behind this; how did it develop? I get the impression Korean women, as a general thing, are a lot less sexually inhibited than women from other cultures, even other Asian countries? It continues to amaze me that I just don't feel any judgement or silent criticism at all coming at me from these providers regarding creative (dirty) stuff I do in the room, compared to how I imagine the average American woman might react if I pulled similar activities in a sexual relationship! Also, I have a theory, I mean speaking about Asian girls, and I'll qualify this further by stipulating Asian women born and raised in Asia not in the USA, that these women are more grounded and less neurotic (read: borderline freaking crazy) when compared with your average American woman. It's to the point where I have a gut suspicion I'd be a lot more willing to trust a Korean-born Korean woman in a serious relationship than I would an American woman, for the above reasons. Am I just imagining this or do we have what amounts to a literal plague of emotional sickness which has infected American women, massively fucking with their heads?