Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Dennis1234;2088535]I think that is her name. I am taking about a super skinny blonde stripper like 90 pounds tops. I just about busted on a floor dance and was tempted to take her to a.

Cabana but didn't want to spend the cash until I knew more. Any intel on her?

Salina BTW is worth it but BYOC which is a must there.[/QUOTE]Any new news on where to find this one? I used to get dances from her all the time at the boat but she disappeared. When it was posted that she was at Venom I went a few times but no luck, one of the other girls there told me she was fired from there too, but who knows. If anyone has seen her around let me know.

I only get to go to a club about once every three months or so. I like the Candy Store, we'll now Venom. Naturally I would like to make the most out of it when I do get to a club but it is hit or miss with the dancers I take to VIP or cabanas. I have seen members say they have a "good tip response" or a "bad tip response" and used this to choose the dancer to take to VIP. Would someone explained how I can use this to better my odds for more fun in the cabanas?

Not sure what time & day you were at Venom for the excitement, On a Fri-Sat night there will be a higher chance of an altercation for a lot of reasons, but daytime is mellow and weeknites are low key from my many visits. Mainly the fact that the club is attracting better dancers is the main plus for the club now.

J.

[QUOTE=AzTransplant;2116790]So decided to stop in at Venom last night and the place was a god damn zoo. With in ten minutes of sitting down there were two fights. First one was between two dancers. The second between two thugs of differing ethnic backgrounds after one made it rain on a dancer on the main stage. Gave serious consideration to leaving at that point. So finally after a short time a girl finally offers me a dance and as we are chatting she mentions that there had been a third fight earlier. Seems to be a good place to not be frequenting these days. Any how on the upside great visits to the cabanas with gals named kat and sugar.

AZT.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

One of my favorite dancers is back dancing occassionally at Venom. Her stage name is Barbie, she's a very tall, athletic, yet curvy ebony babe, with a down to earth personality. Just passing along the good news since she's such a gem. I seem to see her later in the afternoons.

Enjoy,

J.

There is no substitute for just working up to asking the dancer what she feels comfortable doing with you that particular day. I get unexpected surprises all the time, but I usually build up some warm up conversation and dances for a while. Odds are the first time you meet someone, its pretty rare she'd want to get too crazy with you unless your a Brad Pitt lookalike, hit it off like 2 matching pieces of a puzzle, or she's under pressure for fast money or under the influence of something, the last 2 of which make for some bad vibes that kill any enjoyment I would have. There is alot of luck involved from what I've seen, when everything clicks, you go for it, when there is any hesitation or nervousness, I pass.

Good Luck,

J.

[QUOTE=Slider54;2123401]I only get to go to a club about once every three months or so. I like the Candy Store, we'll now Venom. Naturally I would like to make the most out of it when I do get to a club but it is hit or miss with the dancers I take to VIP or cabanas. I have seen members say they have a "good tip response" or a "bad tip response" and used this to choose the dancer to take to VIP. Would someone explained how I can use this to better my odds for more fun in the cabanas?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=jymjim;2124196]There is no substitute for just working up to asking the dancer what she feels comfortable doing with you that particular day. I get unexpected surprises all the time, but I usually build up some warm up conversation and dances for a while. Odds are the first time you meet someone, its pretty rare she'd want to get too crazy with you unless your a Brad Pitt lookalike, hit it off like 2 matching pieces of a puzzle, or she's under pressure for fast money or under the influence of something, the last 2 of which make for some bad vibes that kill any enjoyment I would have. There is alot of luck involved from what I've seen, when everything clicks, you go for it, when there is any hesitation or nervousness, I pass.

Good Luck,

J.[/QUOTE]The last reason is one of the best and most common reason a guy is getting action at a club. When these girls need tp make some cash is THE best time to be at the club. Back in the CS days near the beginning of the month when rent was due for everyone; my god the place became like a pussy themed disneyworld.

[QUOTE=AzTransplant;2124495]my god the place became like a pussy themed disneyworld.[/QUOTE]Now! That sounds like the happiest place on earth!

[QUOTE=SmokeShopJoe;2124532]Now! That sounds like the happiest place on earth![/QUOTE]Wouldn't that depend a whole lot on the maintenence crew?

[QUOTE=AzTransplant;2124495]The last reason is one of the best and most common reason a guy is getting action at a club. When these girls need tp make some cash is THE best time to be at the club. Back in the CS days near the beginning of the month when rent was due for everyone; my god the place became like a pussy themed disneyworld.[/QUOTE]Strip Club # 101 end of the month is when anything is safe to ask. Also when they bend over and present themselves to you, just rub a finger up the back of her thigh, and see if she backs into it or backs away. I have had many dancers tel me this makes them feel safe, that you are not LEO. This has been proved to me by 43 yrs worth of experience!

[QUOTE=ChubbyCharlie;2124755]Wouldn't that depend a whole lot on the maintenence crew?[/QUOTE]The "maintenance" crews at these clubs could care less what goes on provided they get a little taste of the benjamins.

AZT.

[QUOTE=ChubbyCharlie;2124755]Wouldn't that depend a whole lot on the maintenence crew?[/QUOTE]I don't think it would matter I would just Bring Your Own Bleach, and sanitizing wipes at the door for everybody.

Also Just got back from venom best BJ of my life. If you get the chance seana is very worth it.

[QUOTE=Slider54;2123401]I only get to go to a club about once every three months or so. I like the Candy Store, we'll now Venom. Naturally I would like to make the most out of it when I do get to a club but it is hit or miss with the dancers I take to VIP or cabanas. I have seen members say they have a "good tip response" or a "bad tip response" and used this to choose the dancer to take to VIP. Would someone explained how I can use this to better my odds for more fun in the cabanas?[/QUOTE]I will say that If they give mr happy a handshake or acknowledge him when meeting him the odds are in your favor for a good time in the cabanas.

[QUOTE=Slider54;2123401]I only get to go to a club about once every three months or so. I like the Candy Store, we'll now Venom. Naturally I would like to make the most out of it when I do get to a club but it is hit or miss with the dancers I take to VIP or cabanas. I have seen members say they have a "good tip response" or a "bad tip response" and used this to choose the dancer to take to VIP. Would someone explained how I can use this to better my odds for more fun in the cabanas?[/QUOTE]I know I don't post here much so take this with a grain of salt if you must, but if you go to venom and get a few dances on the floor you will find a girl who will give you what you want in the cabanas. Sometimes it is very obvious, sometimes it is just a good vibe you get. The last time I was there I was chatting with a girl on the floor about life and decided to get a couple dances. We connected well, though there was nothing explicit discussed or done on the floor. I took her back to the cabanas and right away she had my pants open for BBBJ, then BBFS (I know, I know.). I finished on my stomach, which she cleaned up with her tongue. Then swallowed. All of this came without any discussion, just a good vibe.

[QUOTE=AzTransplant;2124495] my god the place became like a pussy themed disneyworld.[/QUOTE]I believe that place actually is called Tijuana.

Just a little protip for club management: when your waitresses are cuter than your dancers, you're doing it wrong.

Been highly unimpressed with the scenery at the clubs lately. I guess the landscape has changed w / the economy and season.

Just wanted to offer a warning to patrons at Curves. There's a young, petite, short slender Caucasian brunette w / a butterfly tattoo on her lower back, and curly hair down to her shoulder blades (never properly heard her stage name because it was too loud. Something like Joanna); she says she cleans houses during the day, and dances at night. She likes to play the innocent, shy, ditzy drunk girl game. Implies that if you take her to VIP, you might get some take-out later.

I cannot stand the VIP section at Curves (the black lights make me feel sick) so we went to the couches on the other end, close to the entrance. Unfortunately, there was another dancer and customer in there, as well (important detail for later).

I bought her a couple drinks, had a couple decent dances. And then she started her hustle:

First she does the 'ol: "I drank too much, I have to pee *giggle*" routine. She gets up to go to the bathroom, but instead of going to the bathroom, she goes to the back office for about 5 minutes.

I have a drink myself, and she gets back and we have a couple more dances.

Then she claims she "has to pee again". Riiight.

This time, she went out back with a friend.

When she gets back, she asks how many dances we've done. Again, she plays the ditzy drunk girl who cannot remember, and lowballs the number to entice me to get more dances. I planned on a couple more, anyways, so we get 2 more.

I tell her I have to get going, and again she plays the drunk ditz, saying she cannot remember how many dancers we had, because she was "just so into it". Riiight.

Then she says, "we did about 10 dances, right? It's $20 a dance back here, so you owe me $200.

Amazing how quickly she became a math whiz.

I say, "yeah, I don't think so, sweetheart. " It isn't wise to try to bullshit numbers with a guy who crunches numbers for a living, and has a photographic memory.

So she goes to the bouncer for a count. Mr bouncer was apparently counting by song, not dance, and tells me I owe for 12.

I call bullshit, and the guy says I cannot leave until I pay, and calls over the manager. The other patron overheard the conversation, and starts telling him how I spent most of my time just sitting around waiting on the dancer, and that it was impossible that I owed that much because he'd been in there longer than me, and didn't owe that much yet. Luckily, I'm on good terms with the manager, who I've talked with over a long period of time. When I briefly mentioned the dancer's couple of shots of vodka during me account of the night to the manager, the conversation came to a sudden conclusion. I paid what I owed and went home for a well-needed night's sleep.

For the first time ever, I am grateful that there was another customer in that lounge with me.

Long story short: this isn't the first time I've run into this scam. I'd wager that the bouncers and dancers have their own little hustles going on together. Watch your wallets, gentlemen.

[QUOTE=DesertRat520;2129151]Just wanted to offer a warning to patrons at Curves. There's a young, petite, short slender Caucasian brunette w / a butterfly tattoo on her lower back, and curly hair down to her shoulder blades (never properly heard her stage name because it was too loud. Something like Joanna); she says she cleans houses during the day, and dances at night. She likes to play the innocent, shy, ditzy drunk girl game. Implies that if you take her to VIP, you might get some take-out later.

I cannot stand the VIP section at Curves (the black lights make me feel sick) so we went to the couches on the other end, close to the entrance. Unfortunately, there was another dancer and customer in there, as well (important detail for later).

I bought her a couple drinks, had a couple decent dances. And then she started her hustle:

First she does the 'ol: "I drank too much, I have to pee *giggle*" routine. She gets up to go to the bathroom, but instead of going to the bathroom, she goes to the back office for about 5 minutes.

I have a drink myself, and she gets back and we have a couple more dances.

Then she claims she "has to pee again". Riiight.

This time, she went out back with a friend.

When she gets back, she asks how many dances we've done. Again, she plays the ditzy drunk girl who cannot remember, and lowballs the number to entice me to get more dances. I planned on a couple more, anyways, so we get 2 more.

I tell her I have to get going, and again she plays the drunk ditz, saying she cannot remember how many dancers we had, because she was "just so into it". Riiight.

Then she says, "we did about 10 dances, right? It's $20 a dance back here, so you owe me $200.

Amazing how quickly she became a math whiz.

I say, "yeah, I don't think so, sweetheart. " It isn't wise to try to bullshit numbers with a guy who crunches numbers for a living, and has a photographic memory.

So she goes to the bouncer for a count. Mr bouncer was apparently counting by song, not dance, and tells me I owe for 12.

I call bullshit, and the guy says I cannot leave until I pay, and calls over the manager. The other patron overheard the conversation, and starts telling him how I spent most of my time just sitting around waiting on the dancer, and that it was impossible that I owed that much because he'd been in there longer than me, and didn't owe that much yet. Luckily, I'm on good terms with the manager, who I've talked with over a long period of time. When I briefly mentioned the dancer's couple of shots of vodka during me account of the night to the manager, the conversation came to a sudden conclusion. I paid what I owed and went home for a well-needed night's sleep.

For the first time ever, I am grateful that there was another customer in that lounge with me.

Long story short: this isn't the first time I've run into this scam. I'd wager that the bouncers and dancers have their own little hustles going on together. Watch your wallets, gentlemen.[/QUOTE]She's trying to pay her way through school. And has little mouths to feed. And possibly a habit as well. So hey man, cut her some slack dude! Riiight! Thanks for the heads up even though I don't frequent strip clubs in Tucson. Now if I were back in the Tampa / St. Pete area; that's the land of plenty!

Both clubs are charging for not just dances in the Champagne room, but for sitting down time too. You sit for 2 and she dances for 3, then owe for 5 dances. Scam.

[QUOTE=CuteAndCoo;2129284]Both clubs are charging for not just dances in the Champagne room, but for sitting down time too. You sit for 2 and she dances for 3, then owe for 5 dances. Scam.[/QUOTE]I heard about this dumb new rule at Raider's a few months ago from one of my favorite dancers, Heather, she didn't like it either as we are used to taking a chat break between dances back in the VIP, but that "On the clock" attitude, $20/ dance, + the bouncer checking alot, and finally the 2 minute songs (maybe 2:30, never over 3:00) made me decide to stop going there altogether. I wonder how dead it is and if the sober customers notice the bad changes. I used to go during days, so it was pretty slow anyway, you'd think the management would want to make the customers happy, not at Raider's at least.

J.

[QUOTE=jymjim;2130415]I heard about this dumb new rule at Raider's a few months ago from one of my favorite dancers, Heather, she didn't like it either as we are used to taking a chat break between dances back in the VIP, but that "On the clock" attitude, $20/ dance, + the bouncer checking alot, and finally the 2 minute songs (maybe 2:30, never over 3:00) made me decide to stop going there altogether. I wonder how dead it is and if the sober customers notice the bad changes. I used to go during days, so it was pretty slow anyway, you'd think the management would want to make the customers happy, not at Raider's at least.

J.[/QUOTE]No doubt stopped going there just based on the fact that a manager is poking his head in ever two effing seconds and one can't get any playtime.

[QUOTE=TucsonTaoist;2116749]Never was any good in my experience, only good looking.[/QUOTE]Is she at Venom now during the day?

They open at 6 am weekdays now. I decided to go after breakfast to check it out. I was one of two clients in the place. Not that many dancers, but what few there were were very attentive (handsy) and eager to please. Nice, early morning getting off to be enjoyed.

[QUOTE=jwny72;2131915]They open at 6 am weekdays now. I decided to go after breakfast to check it out. I was one of two clients in the place. Not that many dancers, but what few there were were very attentive (handsy) and eager to please. Nice, early morning getting off to be enjoyed.[/QUOTE]What kind of mileage was to be had at what cost range?

[QUOTE=AzTransplant;2132376]What kind of mileage was to be had at what cost range?[/QUOTE]I just heard that they changed the morning shift to 8 am opening. And the East club is suppose to reopen in February at some point.

I know that there has been a lot of talk about Sugar at Venom. Then she disappeared for a bit. Well, it looks like she has reappeared at the Boat. It looked like she was trying to get her job back. I will post if I hear of anything. And of anyone else hears of anything, please post. Be safe. Play safe. Especially with her.

Had been to the CS and was nearby so stopped by Venom today. Wow. I'm from out of town and only here a few months a year. Normally spend my $ and Curves. Anyway, only had about half hour, stopped in Venom, was approached by Danni and about 10 minutes later was in the cabana. Amazing BJ. Very sexy lady. There were a bunch of other hotties there too. What a great setup!

[QUOTE=Teepee12;2133156]Had been to the CS and was nearby so stopped by Venom today. Wow. I'm from out of town and only here a few months a year. Normally spend my $ and Curves. Anyway, only had about half hour, stopped in Venom, was approached by Danni and about 10 minutes later was in the cabana. Amazing BJ. Very sexy lady. There were a bunch of other hotties there too. What a great setup![/QUOTE]Don't mention what woman do on here and their names that is just asking for trouble, please.

[QUOTE=Nicolejerled;2134767]Don't mention what woman do on here and their names that is just asking for trouble, please.[/QUOTE]This same exact point was raised a while back on the Tampa board and a monger came up with a probable solution I'll share with you fine gentlemen. There's always been a lot of debate about sharing too much detail on the boards because of possible LE monitoring. I agree and disagree. BP providers have their methods to verify; whether they actually matter (in the legal sense) is also subject to debate. So sharing info on providers and SW's (because it's more than obvious to patrol LE anyway) should be fair game. Strippers feel you out figuratively and literally to see if they can trust you. But when cops suspect illegal activities in clubs, they just raid the place without malice. Which in turn causes the club to either close or take additional measures to ensure shit stays legit. But the truth is, as I mentioned in a past post, if any inference to illegal activities is mentioned in a post is cause for undercover to visit the girl to set up a take down. So to circumvent exposing these girls I suggest something to this effect. "I stopped by Venum last night and enjoyed myself." This simple statement infers that they got more than just a dance. Then the member who posted should only provide desired info to TRUSTED members for which girl / s he had the good time with. I know, this is not the end all to be all solution. It would sure make LE's job a lot more difficult. Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=AzTransplant;2132376]What kind of mileage was to be had at what cost range?[/QUOTE]Well, my experience was that when I went to the stage to tip the other morning, the dancers handled my junk, and skillfully used buttocks as hands in an ultra pleasing manner, for an extended period while I was standing at the stage. I wear thin athletic shorts with nothing underneath, and I could have nutted right there if inclined. .

I didn't go to a VIP area, or inquire about extras or takeout. Got ordinary couch dances from a couple of dancers, both of whom were more than willing to get the job done (took care to stroke and caress my junk, essentially masturbating me in my pants, using hands, mouth and buttocks). Both were happy to make me cum, without taking my junk out of my shorts.

My strategy in all of this is to dress appropriately (super thin shorts) and let the dancer take the reins and go where she wants with my obvious boner (many try to get me off manually and by twerking it while using their hands too, and I never ask them to). If I get off, and the girl knows it and was an active participant in making it happen, I pay double the going rate for the number of dances it took. If I get blown or fucked (and dancers sometimes initiate those things, most often in a VIP area) I like to leave the girl with $100, even if it was just 3 songs.

Of course, YMMV, but I've had a lot of fun over the years without asking for what I was given in many cases.

[QUOTE=CuteAndCoo;2132657]I just heard that they changed the morning shift to 8 am opening. And the East club is suppose to reopen in February at some point.[/QUOTE]I guess I was there around 9, so this may have happened already.

What is to keep LE from creating a profile that looks legit, they have more information about the sex industry than any one of us. So if you get a pm from a senior member how does one know if they are or aren't LE. Secondly that would be a lovely method if more people would actually respond to PM's. LEO's love to investigate strip clubs because that means they get to spend weeks hanging out at strip clubs looking at naked women, getting lap daces and getting them to say compromising / do things all while getting paid to drink booze. I will garner a guess LE only raids clubs when they have had way too many complaints about disruption to the local area, such as shootings in parking lots, or a load of junkies buying and selling and steeling in the area. The one place that I feel might be the exception is by the air port as Tucson has a thing about protecting its image. If the forum community was a more forth coming with the PM's and less open about things in posts I agree it would be better for all of us. The amount of flack I got suggesting that we should keep to the $ . 4 method of price disclosure makes me think that it is a loosing battle. Also according to media reports and press releases Tucson has dissolved their vice squad and reallocated those duties to local zones (Precinct) which means that the budget for such activities will come out of the zone and is much more at the discretion of the zones captain.

Here's the real thing about LE that applies to ALL of their enforcement making decisions, they have in the grand scheme of things they have a neigh infinite budget to investigate things, next to no deadlines, and they have to occasionally show the public that they are protecting them and doing good for them. This is even more the case on the federal level. I was at a couple of non titty bars talking to the bartenders and what TPD / PCSD have been doing lately is going in and making sure that all patrons have their I'd's on them as liquor law states that you must be able to show I'd to the bar at any time or they can not serve you and you must leave. Undoubtedly this would be their first line of attack on a club. I spent several years teaching martial art having many LE students. After hearing their stories learning how they think and how they just bend laws. There is next to nothing you can do to stop them if they want something to happen it will.

[QUOTE=SmokeShopJoe;2135235]What is to keep LE from creating a profile that looks legit, they have more information about the sex industry than any one of us. So if you get a pm from a senior member how does one know if they are or aren't LE. Secondly that would be a lovely method if more people would actually respond to PM's. LEO's love to investigate strip clubs because that means they get to spend weeks hanging out at strip clubs looking at naked women, getting lap daces and getting them to say compromising / do things all while getting paid to drink booze. I will garner a guess LE only raids clubs when they have had way too many complaints about disruption to the local area, such as shootings in parking lots, or a load of junkies buying and selling and steeling in the area. The one place that I feel might be the exception is by the air port as Tucson has a thing about protecting its image. If the forum community was a more forth coming with the PM's and less open about things in posts I agree it would be better for all of us. The amount of flack I got suggesting that we should keep to the $ . 4 method of price disclosure makes me think that it is a loosing battle. Also according to media reports and press releases Tucson has dissolved their vice squad and reallocated those duties to local zones (Precinct) which means that the budget for such activities will come out of the zone and is much more at the discretion of the zones captain.

Here's the real thing about LE that applies to ALL of their enforcement making decisions, they have in the grand scheme of things they have a neigh infinite budget to investigate things, next to no deadlines, and they have to occasionally show the public that they are protecting them and doing good for them. This is even more the case on the federal level. I was at a couple of non titty bars talking to the bartenders and what TPD / PCSD have been doing lately is going in and making sure that all patrons have their I'd's on them as liquor law states that you must be able to show I'd to the bar at any time or they can not serve you and you must leave. Undoubtedly this would be their first line of attack on a club. I spent several years teaching martial art having many LE students. After hearing their stories learning how they think and how they just bend laws. There is next to nothing you can do to stop them if they want something to happen it will.[/QUOTE]In reference to your comments: "So if you get a pm from a senior member how does one know if they are or aren't LE. Secondly that would be a lovely method if more people would actually respond to PM's. " First comment, I mentioned "TRUSTED" providers that have written truthful (verified / confirmed with other members on this board) reviews in the past. Not necessarily "senior" members. Some senior members sometimes don't post an 'experience' but once a year or more. They also could be cops fishing for info. In regards to your second comment: I whole-heartedly agree with you there. But what I've learned is that most members don't get on the forum until they're ready to spend some money. So it could be a month or more before they even notice that a PM was sent. Now if you've seen that they've posted and still not replied, then that's a different story. On a side note, PLEASE try and report here ASAP after your 'experience' because some of these girls come and go so quickly. Happy humping fellas.

The other day, I overheard a couple guys in a bar talking about a "private" strip club somewhere in the downtown area. I think they said near the convention center?

I've never heard of such a place in Tucson. Anyone know anything about it?

Went to Curves last night with a friend. I decide to get a dance from a blonde Latina named Jenny. We go to the VIP where the dances are $20 per song. I get 2 dances from her and pay her $45. She tells me I still owe her money. Now I was completely sober and counted 2 songs. I tell her only 2 songs had played and she responds no 5 songs have played. I say bullshit and go to find a manager. The manager with short blonde hair and glasses says 4 songs have played. At this point I know they're just trying to hustle me so I go to my friend and ask him how many songs have played while I was back there. He tells me only 2 as well. I was back there 5 to 7 minutes at most. The manager says I can either pay her for 4 songs which would be $80 or we could leave. I say fuck it let's leave. The stripper Jenny then hits my friend as he's chugging his beer right in front of the manager. She gets in about 3 hits before the manager decides to hold her back. We end up leaving without retaliating in any way. I don't know why she hit my friend instead of me since I'm the one that got the 2 dances from her. Now I would've gladly payed her for 4 or 5 songs if I had indeed received that many dances because the 2 dances I got from her were good but I'm 99.9% sure that only 2 songs had played while I was back there. Has anyone ever had an experience like this at Curves?

[QUOTE=Sting10;2136878]Went to Curves last night with a friend. I decide to get a dance from a blonde Latina named Jenny. We go to the VIP where the dances are $20 per song. I get 2 dances from her and pay her $45. She tells me I still owe her money. Now I was completely sober and counted 2 songs. I tell her only 2 songs had played and she responds no 5 songs have played. I say bullshit and go to find a manager. The manager with short blonde hair and glasses says 4 songs have played. At this point I know they're just trying to hustle me so I go to my friend and ask him how many songs have played while I was back there. He tells me only 2 as well. I was back there 5 to 7 minutes at most. The manager says I can either pay her for 4 songs which would be $80 or we could leave. I say fuck it let's leave. The stripper Jenny then hits my friend as he's chugging his beer right in front of the manager. She gets in about 3 hits before the manager decides to hold her back. We end up leaving without retaliating in any way. I don't know why she hit my friend instead of me since I'm the one that got the 2 dances from her. Now I would've gladly payed her for 4 or 5 songs if I had indeed received that many dances because the 2 dances I got from her were good but I'm 99.9% sure that only 2 songs had played while I was back there. Has anyone ever had an experience like this at Curves?[/QUOTE]This unfortunately has been happening regularly at all of the clubs. There is only the CurvesRaiders clubs that count every single song that the dancers do any where in the club. And the manager and normally a bouncer are counting the dances at the same time on busier says. With the exhibit still not doing well it has been a very normal way of hustling the customer. As one song, ad two songs, and in some cases like this, adding threw songs.

[QUOTE=CuteAndCoo;2137058]This unfortunately has been happening regularly at all of the clubs. There is only the CurvesRaiders clubs that count every single song that the dancers do any where in the club. And the manager and normally a bouncer are counting the dances at the same time on busier says. With the exhibit still not doing well it has been a very normal way of hustling the customer. As one song, ad two songs, and in some cases like this, adding threw songs.[/QUOTE]This is one of the things I like about the current setup for VIP at Venom. You pay the doorman / dj for an amount of time in the cabana say 15 or 30 minutes. This makes it ver easy to be able to estimate the number of dances that have occurred during your VIP. Not mention the girls in this place are generally looking for a flat fee for a service.

AZT.

I had a run in with Jenny a year ago at Curves. Good looking blonde Latina, told me she also dances in El Paso. After 2 songs she tells me it's been 4. I ended up paying her for 3 I think? I have not seen her since then and if I ever do I will talk to the manager about her. Not sure if I posted about her here a year ago but I know I included the details in a review on another site I also frequent.

Stay away from this blonde latina. She also promised extras in VIP which of course never materialized.

[QUOTE=Sting10;2136878]Went to Curves last night with a friend. I decide to get a dance from a blonde Latina named Jenny. We go to the VIP where the dances are $20 per song. I get 2 dances from her and pay her $45. She tells me I still owe her money. Now I was completely sober and counted 2 songs. I tell her only 2 songs had played and she responds no 5 songs have played. I say bullshit and go to find a manager. The manager with short blonde hair and glasses says 4 songs have played. At this point I know they're just trying to hustle me so I go to my friend and ask him how many songs have played while I was back there. He tells me only 2 as well. I was back there 5 to 7 minutes at most. The manager says I can either pay her for 4 songs which would be $80 or we could leave. I say fuck it let's leave. The stripper Jenny then hits my friend as he's chugging his beer right in front of the manager. She gets in about 3 hits before the manager decides to hold her back. We end up leaving without retaliating in any way. I don't know why she hit my friend instead of me since I'm the one that got the 2 dances from her. Now I would've gladly payed her for 4 or 5 songs if I had indeed received that many dances because the 2 dances I got from her were good but I'm 99.9% sure that only 2 songs had played while I was back there. Has anyone ever had an experience like this at Curves?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RedTail;2146107]I had a run in with Jenny a year ago at Curves. Good looking blonde Latina, told me she also dances in El Paso. After 2 songs she tells me it's been 4. I ended up paying her for 3 I think? I have not seen her since then and if I ever do I will talk to the manager about her. Not sure if I posted about her here a year ago but I know I included the details in a review on another site I also frequent.

Stay away from this blonde latina. She also promised extras in VIP which of course never materialized.[/QUOTE]The question is, who isn't a rob at Curves. That whole place is a rip off.

[QUOTE=AzTransplant;2146355]The question is, who isn't a rob at Curves. That whole place is a rip off.[/QUOTE]Hello, it is a strip club. It has been as carefully set up to separate you from your hard earned money as a casino!

[QUOTE=ScarabReturns;2147088]Hello, it is a strip club. It has been as carefully set up to separate you from your hard earned money as a casino. ![/QUOTE]And convenient ATM locations like the Casinos too. One when you enter the club. One technically at the bar, and one when you leave the Players Lounge and Champagne room. I forgot the VIP by the front door as you enter. I wish that I owned those machines, but of course the club owns those. I'm still waiting for the dancers to start carrying the Square device that you attatch to the phone. But this would leave a paper trail. They can't have that. Be safe. Play safe.

[QUOTE=ScarabReturns;2147088]Hello, it is a strip club. It has been as carefully set up to separate you from your hard earned money as a casino. ![/QUOTE]And convenient ATM locations like the Casinos too. One when you enter the club. One technically at the bar, and one when you leave the Players Lounge and Champagne room. I forgot the VIP by the front door as you enter. I wish that I owned those machines, but of course the club owns those. I'm still waiting for the dancers to start carrying the Square device that you attatch to the phone. But this would leave a paper trail. They can't have that. Be safe. Play safe. And only bring the amount of money you are willing to lose. Just like the casino.