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I'm getting tired of hearing about a vocal minority of Warren residents talking smack about Asian women, who have jobs, who spend money, who pay sales tax, and who bring my business to Warren. Action is called for. Many thousands of dollars of action. Who are the elected officials that care about these Asian guests? We need to support them with our wallets. Who are the elected officials that dislike these Asian guests? We need to support their opponents in the next election.

We can wring our hands or we can open our wallets. I know what I'm going to do. Some of you brothers who better understand our friends versus our enemies, please steer me in the right direction.

Read the below listed article from the Trib from a while back, ok, not the article but the comments from the people who read the article, it's like 9 to 1 to leave the Spas alone and work on the real issues of Warren. Politicians are normally smart people, they know how to put on a show for the council meetings, but when it comes down to spending the very scarce money on a real police investigation into a victimless crime that has no broad based support from the community.

"I have learned my lesson and I no longer go to these places as I have gotten older I now know that it is very very wrong for ME to do this. I had an experience a while back that also made me know what I know about morality. I'm not telling anyone not to go to these places, but to warn you that there are consequences to what you do and that if there are investigations, you may very well get contacted by the FBI or the police. I hate to see family men getting their families destroyed by a lust that can not be satiated.

Probably very very wrong for you to be here, as well-behave yourself. LOL

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1173370]I was visited by the local FBI. Told me to go to the state's FBI office where the AMP was as they wanted to ask me questions.

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I have no doubt that at some time, you were questioned by law enforcement regarding your activities at the spas you visited. I thank you for your insight, on the matter even though I may not agree with you. I was however wondering if you were not your own worst enemy in this sad story you tell.

Jeep, since you have been through this, please tell us if you would have visited a second or third FBI office if you simply said you did not wish to answer any questions. That is your right as a citizen, right?

I suspect the guys that could not remember their visits, or refused to answer, had rather short visits with the police/FBI.

[QUOTE=Jeep56;1173370]If you are from out of state and are caught going in, you will get a visit from the FBI. How do I know? It happened to me several years ago when I was going to these places. I was caught in an investigation and I was visited by the local FBI. Told me to go to the state's FBI office where the AMP was as they wanted to ask me questions. Check out the Evergreen Spa and the shutdown of it in Wheeling. About a year later I also got a call and was told to come in for a visit to a police station at another city in Ohio that now has closed down the AMP's.[/QUOTE]This is nonsense. Even if it were true, you could solve the matter with one word "NO." At no time are you obligated to talk to a law enforcement officer about anything. Ever. Ever. Ever. The fifth amendment to the Constitution gives you the legal right to tell them to go "f" themselves and keep your mouth the shut. The first amendment, on the other hand, gives all of us posting here to make up fictional stories about things that we wish happened but never did. And just like every other post on this forum about meeting women and whatnot, I believe your experience is fictional and posted for our entertainment.

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[/QUOTE]These idiots in elected government don't seem to realize these places keep crime off of the streets of their towns, to some degree. They can isolate and regulate certain activities and keep tabs on them. You don't have as many drug dealers pimping women on the streets in front of schools and homes. It reduces the potential for violent crime and urban blight.

Clearly elected officials in Niles have nothing better to do. Like expand the city's tax base or solve other issues that affect everyone. They have to pick on one small business tucked away in an inconspicuous place, where everyone leaves happy and no one is harmed. God bless America.

Is it possible? How much would the tip be and does it count as two visits on your get one free card?

Enough of the BS spending too much time worrying about what if's . Enjoy it while its here. Can't predict the future! More importantly whats the latest lineup at Sun.

Where are all the spa women at?

[QUOTE=Hdrk55;1176152]Enough of the BS spending too much time worrying about what if's . Enjoy it while its here. Can't predict the future! More importantly whats the latest lineup at Sun.[/QUOTE]I agree. Enjoy it while it lasts, lets get back to the important stuff:

Line up: Tina, Jun, Coco. Lisa.

Coco: very nice provider. 5'2. Medium build, fake boobs, prob mid 40's. Great personality, good english (used to be Kama'aina). Face: 6/10. Pleasant looking MILF, some would consider spinner (for me bit on the heavy side to be a spinner-not that she's fat) Body: 6/10. OK TS with SS, OK massage. Overall enjoyable.

Lisa: I had a chance to meet her briefly as I was heading out. Younger, prob early 30's, taller maybe 5'6. Face: maybe 5-6/10. She was clothed, but appeared to have nice body. Seemed nice. I'll prob ask for her next time.

Tina and Jun has been there before, and I've reviewed them in the past.

Anybody know lineup at Tokyo?

[QUOTE=Idoc007; 1176386]I agree. Enjoy it while it lasts, lets get back to the important stuff:

Line up: Tina, Jun, Coco. Lisa.

Coco: very nice provider. 5'2. Medium build, fake boobs, prob mid 40's. Great personality, good english (used to be Kama'aina). Face: 6/10. Pleasant looking MILF, some would consider spinner (for me bit on the heavy side to be a spinner-not that she's fat) Body: 6/10. OK TS with SS, OK massage. Overall enjoyable.

Lisa: I had a chance to meet her briefly as I was heading out. Younger, prob early 30's, taller maybe 5'6. Face: maybe 5-6/10. She was clothed, but appeared to have nice body. Seemed nice. I'll prob ask for her next time.

Tina and Jun has been there before, and I've reviewed them in the past.

Anybody know lineup at Tokyo? [/QUOTE]Well, Idoc, I have had Lisa twice and she's a nice little spinner. For a moment I thought she was Mitchell from VIP. I checked out my old review and she comes close. There was this one thing that Mitchell did that I thought Lisa did too but when I tried it out on her again she didn't do it. So I'm not too disappointed but she's worth the spin. Coco is more of a komedian. Wicked sense of humor. We all love Jun and okay, Tina too. Now, my favorite spinster is coming back next week. She's a total MILF and she'll be in by Wednesday. Who is it you ask? Then pm me and I will tell.

Heard through the grapevine that Fuji and VIP are closed due to licensing issues. Will probably be back up within the next two weeks.

[QUOTE=Vampireweekend; 1176490]Well, Idoc, I have had Lisa twice and she's a nice little spinner. For a moment I thought she was Mitchell from VIP. I checked out my old review and she comes close. There was this one thing that Mitchell did that I thought Lisa did too but when I tried it out on her again she didn't do it. So I'm not too disappointed but she's worth the spin. Coco is more of a komedian. Wicked sense of humor. We all love Jun and okay, Tina too. Now, my favorite spinster is coming back next week. She's a total MILF and she'll be in by Wednesday. Who is it you ask? Then pm me and I will tell.

Heard through the grapevine that Fuji and VIP are closed due to licensing issues. Will probably be back up within the next two weeks. [/QUOTE]I wrote a similar note on another web site. Therefore, if you think I am repeating myself, I am.

We need to step back for a while posting these "fantasy" reviews. People outside the spa world are getting the impression that things are happening at the spas that are not actually happening.

I am guilty in the past of posting wild fantasy reviews of my spa visits. Based on a request from Sammy (via another spa enthusiast) , I will no longer post.

I am requesting a moratorium of fantasy posts for at least the next month. Yes, that even includes you Vampireweekend.

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I' ve never been to Sun and decided this past Thursday night I'd go see what all the fuss was about. I sat in my car a few minutes scoping the place out. The only other car there was the security guy in his truck. And I thought I picked the perfect time (it was around 8:30pm) and would maybe even get a line up. As I was about to get out. A ford F150 or 250 pulled up to the end of the plaza and a guy with a clipboard in hand got out and walked into Sun. The driver of the truck drove around into the back of the plaza behind the buildings. I sat in my car waiting to see what would happen and about 20 minutes later I saw the truck in my rear view mirror come from behind the plaza on the other side and it drove past and I saw both guys were in it and it drove out. I must of waited in my car a total of an hour before I finally thought it was ok to go in and was surprised that there were no other customers during that time. I got out and walked in and being in my early twenties I was asked by the mamasan how old I was. She just said "noooo too young "even tho I'm over 21? I've been to tokyo and didn't have a problem there so I wonder if it was because of the recent inspection or whatever that I was turned away?

[QUOTE=SuperUnknown21; 1176944]I have a better idea. How about we just install smoke screen devices on our cars and drive real fast and take lots of turns. That will get the cops off our tails!

It's pretty obvious what you are trying to do here, and although I agree with you about the excess of info available on this site, isn't that exactly what this site is FOR? To share fun STORIES?

Putting a stop to posts for the next month would just be counterproductive to what we all come here for. Besides, do you really think they haven't been reading this site for years? I know I sure have. [/QUOTE]For once I'm going to have to regretably agree with Superunknown21. What are we going to have to do then erase everything from our past? Let's just chill a bit, cool our heels, and enjoy the present moment. And that includes you Jeffy boy. Now, I going to wash myself. Hot towels anyone?

Does anyone have any info on Ocean Spa? I am new to all this and was thinking of making a visit. When I called there the woman said,"yea yea we have young beautiful girls". Was just wondering.

Is Ocean spa worth the trip?

[QUOTE=Steel3643;1176890]I' ve never been to Sun and decided this past Thursday night I'd go see what all the fuss was about. I sat in my car a few minutes scoping the place out. The only other car there was the security guy in his truck. And I thought I picked the perfect time (it was around 8:30pm) and would maybe even get a line up. As I was about to get out. A ford F150 or 250 pulled up to the end of the plaza and a guy with a clipboard in hand got out and walked into Sun. The driver of the truck drove around into the back of the plaza behind the buildings. I sat in my car waiting to see what would happen and about 20 minutes later I saw the truck in my rear view mirror come from behind the plaza on the other side and it drove past and I saw both guys were in it and it drove out. I must of waited in my car a total of an hour before I finally thought it was ok to go in and was surprised that there were no other customers during that time. I got out and walked in and being in my early twenties I was asked by the mamasan how old I was. She just said "noooo too young "even tho I'm over 21? I've been to tokyo and didn't have a problem there so I wonder if it was because of the recent inspection or whatever that I was turned away?[/QUOTE]I would recommend trying one of the less known spa's. The Sun seems to be getting a little too hot, if you know what I mean.

[QUOTE=SuperUnknown21;1177038]She probably turned you away because you sat out in your truck in the parking lot for an hour. They can look out that window, as they do all the time, and see who is out there. Next time just park and go in. No inspections are going to interfere with what you came for. Trust me. I have been there twice when the city health dept. Showed up. The only thing it did was scare the shit out of me, but once I realized who they were and why they were there, it was fine.[/QUOTE]I sort of wondered about that myself. Are you saying that they were suspicious of me because I sat out in my car and didn't come in for so long? I'm not sure why that would make them turn someone away, but I guess that's possible.

[QUOTE=Zippd;1177186]Is Ocean spa worth the trip?[/QUOTE]Ahhhhhhh, NO. You'd be better to try MoonNight Spa or even Fantacy you're wanting to traverse the East side. Ocean is just a big rip off from the time you walk into the front door and until you leave. More sugar in my coffee. More sugar in my tea.

[QUOTE=Spa Man 1;1177190]I would recommend trying one of the less known spa's. The Sun seems to be getting a little too hot, if you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]That's why they spray painted the word HOT next to SUN. Because it's HOT SUN SPA bra. Where's my sun glasses. Time to hit the beach.

I visited Sun yesterday at 6:10 pm and there were 7 cars in the lot. This was my first visit in a month and I was assigned Tina. Overall she was a 4 on the scale of 10. Looks she is a 6; TS was a 6; massage was a 4; services were 3/4. She shorted me on time (45 minutes) claiming she was tired. Talked to Sammy about this; she wrote me a note giving me extra time next visit. Overall. Stay away from Tina.

Went past FS and there were no cars either time.

[QUOTE=SuperUnknown21;1177518]I must say I am a bit surprised that someone who posts reviews as often as you would recommend a place like Fantacy. Did you have a good experience there? I only went once, and it was beyond weird. Not to mention the girls weren't very attractive. I mean, they got the job done, but I was kinda tripped out by the whole place and the way they did things. Let me know if you have found otherwise.[/QUOTE]I will admit that I went there based on your review. I have been curious about the place since I kept driving by whenever I was in the Warren / Niles area and so your negative review (and another review / post) peaked my interest a little more.

My first experience was different from any other visits to the other spas in the area. It was what I call an 'orange' experience because I am so use to the 'apple' experiences that I've experienced at the Korean style spas. The first time was interesting because I really didn't know what to expect. And I also went when they were not busy at all. I think I was the only customer at first. 'Lee' was the provider I had the first time. Very petite, will enhanced, had dark brown eyes and mid back length black / brown hair. We did the standard procedures of going to the room, table shower, sauna, and back to the room. The place was kind of dark with this New Age style music playing. It wasn't dirty but definitely a little worn for wear. The table shower was mostly in the dark with one lone lit candle and the table had this funky smell like perspiration / body odor. When we were back at the room Lee began to apply lotion / oil and massaging my feet and legs. I could hear someone walking around in the house and then the door open and the house mother walked in. She grabbed a black belt with a black pouch that contained lotion in it. She started applying lotion to my back and started working on my back, neck, and buttocks. This was the first time that I had two women giving me a massage at once. It was a great experience and at this point was worth the $60 door fee for the hour. This is the one part I would recommend to all of you. The house mother explained their service philosophy to me and that they different on how they approach the customer as a non rushed experience. And here's the kicker. I actually received an hour long massage from head to toe by two people. It was a work over and a great experience. Now I did tip for some more extra service with 'Lee' and actually ended up being there for over an hour and a half. It was pricey. Not your normal $ service. Again, it was unrushed and a lot more attentive than what I've experienced at the other spas.

My second and third visits were the best because I met Nikki during that time. She was a little gem of a provider. Also petite, B cup, with a couple tattoos, and spoke English very well. Very young and pretty, a bit unsure of herself which I found attractive. The second time I had the same two girl massage experience as before and the table shower was better. No funky smell. Again, I had a full hour body massage and got to spend a little more time with Nikki afterwards for another hour and a half / 45 minutes total experience. The third (and I think a fourth) time I had Nikki again but it was solo without the two girl massage. It was a lot busier then. The house mother and the other provider were attending the other customers. Again, it was non-rushed and I ended up there for 2 hours for $$.

Yes, I know it was pricier than the other places but the experience was different and maybe a little better than expected. Now, don't go rushing over there for Nikki. She unfortunately has gone on permanent vacation and will not be returning. She was a gem. What one person, who pm'ed called her 'a candle in the wind'.

Before you guys accused me of holding back. I did try to post a review of my experiences (5 times to be exact) but for some reason they did not take. I did post reviews on the other site if you want to check them out. This time around I wrote this out on my notepad and then transferred it onto this post.

I apologize for this post being long winded but there was so much to cover (and even now I haven't gone into too much detail but just gave you guys a basic summary of my experiences). Again, this was an 'orange' experience compared to the 'apple' experiences you guys are use to. What I experienced will be different from yours depending on what mindset you approach it. Will I go back again? Maybe, but there's a little hesitation because Nikki is no longer there and I'm just afraid of trying out a new person there though you can just go there for the massage and make your decision then. So there you have it on why I recommend it.

Lisa now has rotated out of the Sun lineup. Only there maybe 3 weeks, but they were memorable. Sammie doesn't know if she will return. She was replaced with another girl, but I didn't get her name. The other 3 currently are Jun, Coco and Tina.

Finally made it to Warren to see what all the fuss is about. I have to say my experience did not meet the expectations formed by reading these threads.

I visited Sun on a Sunday morning. There was no lineup and no choice of girls. I asked the mamasan who was working and she just said,"Coco will take care of you" and showed me to a room. Coco appeared a few minutes later. I was surprised; whomever referred to Coco as a "pretty girl" is due for an eye exam as she's certainly well past fifty, has had a rough life and looks it.

I considered leaving at that point but decided, in the spirit of adventure, to stick with it. The table shower was pleasant and Coco stripped off completely to do it. That was the highlight of the visit. A few minutes spent in the sauna was also pleasant. Then back to the room; everything was on offer, but I opted just for HR as I did not find Coco the least bit attractive. She seemed disappointed that I wasn't going to spend the full amount for the full menu. She got the job done but there was nothing erotic about it. She kept making fake moans even though only her hands were involved which was very off-putting.

The facilities were first-rate and I would certainly return, either to Sun or to try one of the other establishments, provided I had a list of possible names to ask for.

So, are there in fact any ladies under 35 (when viewed without the benefit of rose-tinted specs) to be found in Warren? And, preferably, all-natural? Any suggestions will be gratefully received!

Best regards from,

London W2

[QUOTE=Mek111;1178325]Lisa now has rotated out of the Sun lineup. Only there maybe 3 weeks, but they were memorable. Sammie doesn't know if she will return. She was replaced with another girl, but I didn't get her name. The other 3 currently are Jun, Coco and Tina.[/QUOTE]Well Mek111, the new girl is Jay who was there when Mya and Bobbie were the main attraction. She's still my favorite of the bunch there. Loves to hum while giving you a table shower and massage. It actually relaxes me for some strange reason. I saw her first thing this morning and she was just aS great as ever. I know a lot of you don't remember her but she is a cutie and has this Mary Taylor Moore thing about her. Beautiful eyes and smile and very sweet. She is what I call my spinster since some of you think that she's a little older to be consider a spinner. She's definitely a MILF.

Lisa was a keeper too and hopefully she'll rotate back soon. She had the potential to give Nana a run for her money.

I took Vampireweekend's advice and checked out Fantacy Spa. Mecio answered the door. 30ish maybe, well placed. Took me to the room then to the table shower followed by the sauna. Then back to the room. Didn't get a two girl session for the massage but she really worked me over for the full hour like VW said in his review. It was definitely a hard massage better than I've gotten at the other massage places. I tipped her for a little extra and had another nice 30 to 40 minutes with her. I found out what makes Fantacy Spa different from the rest is that they're Vietnamese and that might explain why they're so big on not providing rushed service. I did another girl on the way out. She looked a lot younger. I might be back though it was $$ for the entire package. A little more than what I'm use to spending but it was well worth it.

[QUOTE=London W2; 1178420]Finally made it to Warren to see what all the fuss is about. I have to say my experience did not meet the expectations formed by reading these threads.

I visited Sun on a Sunday morning. There was no lineup and no choice of girls. I asked the mamasan who was working and she just said,"Coco will take care of you" and showed me to a room. Coco appeared a few minutes later. I was surprised; whomever referred to Coco as a "pretty girl" is due for an eye exam as she's certainly well past fifty, has had a rough life and looks it.

So, are there in fact any ladies under 35 (when viewed without the benefit of rose-tinted specs) to be found in Warren? And, preferably, all-natural? Any suggestions will be gratefully received!

Best regards from,

London W2[/QUOTE]I heard Coco is mid 40's according to a very good source (I. E, The King of Warren Spas). The King of Warren Spas makes spa visits 2-3 times per week and he enjoys all types of ladies (young, old, thin, obese, attractive, butt ugly, etc). He enjoys them all. I suspect that he would suggest that you be more open minded.

Who is this King and how may we be better availed of his wisdom and benevolence in this matters?

[QUOTE=Jeff S;1178834]I heard Coco is mid 40's according to a very good source (I. E, The King of Warren Spas). The King of Warren Spas makes spa visits 2-3 times per week and he enjoys all types of ladies (young, old, thin, obese, attractive, butt ugly, etc). He enjoys them all. I suspect that he would suggest that you be more open minded.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1178948]Who is this King and how may we be better availed of his wisdom and benevolence in this matters?[/QUOTE]With all due deference to the KOWS (King of Warren Spas) , could you please share with us two bits of wisdom:

1) Where do you get all that disposable income?

2) How do you achieve this legendary stamina?

Your subjects await breathlessly!

[QUOTE=Mek111; 1178996]With all due deference to the KOWS (King of Warren Spas) , could you please share with us two bits of wisdom:

1) Where do you get all that disposable income?

2) How do you achieve this legendary stamina?

Your subjects await breathlessly![/QUOTE]Aren't we all KOWS in light of everything here on this board. We all share in his conventional stamina and wisdom? Besides, where are all the spa women at?

Shouldn't we vote on an honorary King?

Then he could put on a Elvis outfit (you know "the King") and go to city council meetings and discuss the thousands of dollars us mongers add to the Warren economy each month, the absolute lack of one valid customer complaint and how the money spent on this witch hunt would likely fill a few potholes.

We should figure out a discrete way to show Warren how much money we add to their economy.

[QUOTE=Jeff S;1178834]I heard Coco is mid 40's according to a very good source (I. E, The King of Warren Spas). The King of Warren Spas makes spa visits 2-3 times per week and he enjoys all types of ladies (young, old, thin, obese, attractive, butt ugly, etc). He enjoys them all. I suspect that he would suggest that you be more open minded.[/QUOTE]Having seen and talked to Coco pre battle gear and full make up, she is likely on the other side of forty but still an absolutely great provider. Most guys if they saw her out at a club in proper club wear and make up would say she was hot.

[QUOTE=Deevcj;1179189]Having seen and talked to Coco pre battle gear and full make up, she is likely on the other side of forty but still an absolutely great provider. Most guys if they saw her out at a club in proper club wear and make up would say she was hot.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have had Coco once and she was superb. I would have to say that she was one of the best providers that I have ever had.

Trying to figure out a discrete way to show the city of Warren how much money we spend visiting their lovely town. So I ordered some business cards, see link below. I figure next time I am in town I will leave them places I visit after I leave just to remind them of the customers that they are getting from the Spas. I figure if these just start showing up every where it may show the other side of the argument.

[url]http://www.overnightprints.com/merlinMain.php?product=1#configure/6082/bc_front[/url]

Not sure it this link will work. If anyone would like some, send me a PM and I will throw a bunch in an envelope and send them out to you.

[QUOTE=V Earp2; 1173635]I'm getting tired of hearing about a vocal minority of Warren residents talking smack about Asian women, who have jobs, who spend money, who pay sales tax, and who bring my business to Warren. Action is called for. Many thousands of dollars of action. Who are the elected officials that care about these Asian guests? We need to support them with our wallets. Who are the elected officials that dislike these Asian guests? We need to support their opponents in the next election.

We can wring our hands or we can open our wallets. I know what I'm going to do. Some of you brothers who better understand our friends versus our enemies, please steer me in the right direction.[/QUOTE]I suggest you join forces with Deevcj and KOWS aka Mr Handsome.

Happy Mongering

How about a PAC? A Political Action Committee. People who appreciate Warren, Ohio, could donate $1 or $1000 toward the improvement of this struggling city. Would require a leader (a Warren attorney?) , some paperwork, a website, and some people with balls and money. I'm good for $100 to kick this can down the road.

[QUOTE=Jeff S;1178834]I heard Coco is mid 40's according to a very good source (I. E, The King of Warren Spas). The King of Warren Spas makes spa visits 2-3 times per week and he enjoys all types of ladies (young, old, thin, obese, attractive, butt ugly, etc). He enjoys them all. I suspect that he would suggest that you be more open minded.[/QUOTE]We are all in this hobby for a variety of reasons. For myself, it is being able to spend time with a girl whom I would not be able to shag for free in real life. That generally means the ones 10+ years my junior. However, age is not the only consideration; the quality of the service is of even greater importance. I have had AMP visits that were incredibly sensual and erotic; my recent experience at Sun was neither. In fact, I cannot offhand recall a more detached, mechanical assembly-line experience. That is another reason I prefer younger ladies: they have generally not yet become so jaded and hardened by the business as Coco clearly has.

If His Majesty always has enjoyable experiences then I envy him. Perhaps he knows of a lady or two whom I would enjoy meeting!