I just saw on another forum that there is a Golden Spa in Herndon. The one I just reviewed is in Annendale and advertises in CL as a grand opening. I'm surprised it was as busy as it was, because I don't think it was very good.
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I just saw on another forum that there is a Golden Spa in Herndon. The one I just reviewed is in Annendale and advertises in CL as a grand opening. I'm surprised it was as busy as it was, because I don't think it was very good.
Went to NSP this evening. Mammasan was happy to see me. I gave her a hug and she asked me what size I was in the chest. I said 48-52. She said no, large, XL, etc.? I said XL. She told me she had a new girl and I'd be happy. She bent over, pulled up my pants leg and examined my ankle. at first I thought she was looking for a concealed weapon. Later, when I was leaving, she handed me a Christmas present. It hit me on the way home why she looked at my ankle and I nearly spit out my drink laughing at myself when it dawned on me. As I expected, when I got home I found socks and an argyle vest. The size of the socks and vest were on the money.
Thank you, Mammasan! Merry Christmas.
Oh, yeah. Kelly was the new girl. 35 yo Korean, looks not a day over 25 (really). Smokin' body. 5'6", 125 lbs, long hair. Very nice features. Long, feminine hands and feet, slender legs, nice natural top. Pretty smile and teeth. She'd be worth a triple take on the street.
F - 8 pleasantly pretty
B - 9 smokin'ly slim
A - 8 precisely proportionate
M - 5 she's still learning how to work with her hands and feet
S - 8 pm for details
A - 8 eager to please, willing to learn, easygoing
AD
Ok, I am a newbie so please bear with me. Have been goin to AMPs off and on (not as much as I like due to my small piggie bank right now) for about 7 yrs depending on the current relationship. But I am visiting family in the VA area and checked out golden spa in Alex. Yesterday. Accidentally posted in the DC forum and a senior member kindly suggested to put it in this forum (northern VA). So I went there early afternoon, and the ahjooma said to come back in a half an hr. I guess they were pretty busy. Came back in exactly half an hour and was brought inside and placed in a room when the ahjooma introduced a pretty Korean girl (mid 30s) and I would rate F-7 B-7. Didn't have a choice in the masseuse. Gave the girl 0. 8 and got a fair ts (water got kinda cold towards the end however) and then a fair massage. Her english was good and overall was friendly. She carressed my back before getting the front done in a way that signaled lets do this. Some mutual touching was allowed and got the HJ finish, wanted more but she said they don't do more there. Maybe so maybe not but I take her word on it and she was kind. I was kinda confused as far as a standard tip for the service (used to fullservice back home at a higher price) and she said to give her 0. 6 which I did. I also asked if that was standard and she said yes and was kind to this newbie. Overall service was good and professional. I would recommend if that type of service you are look for.
Happy Holidays and be safe guys!
Gave 112 another look. Still closed. Back in the car & headed down the road to Venus. First visit. Met at the door by Kim. Nice greeting, walked back to the room. Asked if I've visited before. Right or wrong I always confess to being a first time visitor but offer that I've frequented the place down the street. She replied, "112"? I say yes & she reveals that they're permanently out of business due do an unfortunate run in with Leo.
Kim's 40ish. Decent build but a funny looking set of bolt-ons. Once in the room, she asked for the hr fee, asked me to get ready and disappeared out the door. Surprisingly (to me) she reappears about 45 seconds later. No shower was offered. My research tells me there may not even be a shower at this locale. She gives a nice massage. Firm. Asks for a lot of feedback. "is that ok? ", "not too hard? ", etc Nice back walk. After about 40 mins, stnd NoVA finish w/hot towels to tidy up. Asks for tip up front. That's never happened before? Didn't feel like getting into a fuss about it, but thought it was a little unusual.
While getting myself back together, she offers there's another girl. Jenny. She introduced me to her on my way out. They both made nice and asked for a return visit.
F 5. Showing age
B 7. Tight, but I had a problem with the enhancements
A 7. Nothing extraordinary. Miss a TS, though
M 8. Works hard, good technique
S 8
A 8. Good attitude, nice provider
Both she & Jenny were very nice. I may return because of that and the fact that the location is convenient. That said, I'm still looking for a favorite and will continue to look. If anyone has any advise, much appreciated.
Thanks all!
After nearly a month and a half away from my ATF, I decided to drop by and do some bird watching near Skyline. Much to my surprise, my ATF was gone, which sucked considering I desperately needed a hot chocolate drink on this cold day. The other provider who answered the door was not that bad looking, pretty nice looking actually, with a nice rack. However, I know my ATF is a sure thing and with funds tight this time of the year, I did not want to chance it on new meat. A quick call later and found out my ATF was "livening" things up across town, west of the Beltway near the toll road so I was back in business.
As usual, she treated me good. Was a little upset that I had not stopped by sooner but she took care of me as usual. She told me the previous spot was dead and the customers were cheap, leaving little tip, so for all those that like to partake in a hot chocolate drink and have seen this provider before, treat her nice, tip her good, and she will stick around and treat you good in return, otherwise I get the feeling she will be packing her bags looking for another spot to roost in.
Since the quality has gone down hill and PWC is a death trap figured I'd see try some new places. I think her name was Cheri...she took me to the bath room and she washed me down. We went back to the massage room where I got face down and she began the massage. It was surprisingly good. Most I get are ok, but she was really rubbing and kneading my muscles. It felt great. Typical nova finish, but I truly believe more is on the table for more $.
New girl Coco started today. Asked for May but she wasn't there. Coco was very nice, nice looking, was okay with my Roman hands, massaged me without her hands or feet, which was very nice, and some extra massage at the end. Had left .4 on the table at the start, added another .2 before I left. Nice experience.
Norm
[QUOTE=Crazy Spartan]Ok, I am a newbie so please bear with me. Have been goin to AMPs off and on (not as much as I like due to my small piggie bank right now) for about 7 yrs depending on the current relationship. But I am visiting family in the VA area and checked out golden spa in Alex. Yesterday. Accidentally posted in the DC forum and a senior member kindly suggested to put it in this forum (northern VA). So I went there early afternoon, and the ahjooma said to come back in a half an hr. I guess they were pretty busy. Came back in exactly half an hour and was brought inside and placed in a room when the ahjooma introduced a pretty Korean girl (mid 30s) and I would rate F-7 B-7. Didn't have a choice in the masseuse. Gave the girl 0. 8 and got a fair ts (water got kinda cold towards the end however) and then a fair massage. Her english was good and overall was friendly. She carressed my back before getting the front done in a way that signaled lets do this. Some mutual touching was allowed and got the HJ finish, wanted more but she said they don't do more there. Maybe so maybe not but I take her word on it and she was kind. I was kinda confused as far as a standard tip for the service (used to fullservice back home at a higher price) and she said to give her 0. 6 which I did. I also asked if that was standard and she said yes and was kind to this newbie. Overall service was good and professional. I would recommend if that type of service you are look for.
Happy Holidays and be safe guys![/QUOTE]They will try to up sell you but standard in NOVA is. 2 and. 4, leave it in your car, don't bring anymore with u. You all are driving the price up pussy up (hahahahahah) or in this case, a "good ending".
[QUOTE=AKFourtySeven]$300 for a handjob or $100?
The use of dollar signs can be confusing as opposed to stating the price outright.[/QUOTE]HaNd job, 20 bucks, maybe 40 bucks but no more.
[QUOTE=Just Ken]This was his first experience, he knew what to expect and what to tip and felt it was worth the $$$. I don't think this will suddenly cause the prices to go up. I don't think his provider will suddenly think her services are worth more because of this and raise her prices. Granted, this was WAY above what is typical for the services he received, but, it's his money.[/QUOTE]Good God, 3 bones, No Sir.
[QUOTE=Wild Turkey]Forgive me Mr. Very Senior Member, but it is a completely classless move to come on here and insult the vast majority of people by calling them "cheap" and imply that they are less than decent people for tipping AMP girls the exact amount that is established throughout the area. You may be a big spender, but that doesn't give you the right to insult everyone else for paying the normal amount.
The AMP business is just like any other tip-based service. There are established tipping guidelines for every such industry, and the established amount should get you courteous service every time. I doubt that under their breath the providers are cursing at us for giving them no more, but no less than, what they expect. Just like you wouldn't expect your waiter to spit in your water for tipping him the standard 20%, you wouldn't expect AMP technicians to give less than an honest effort for their standard. 4 tip. Would waiters be thankful for the Hollywood types that come in and tip them out a thousand dollars each? Sure. But they wouldn't be looking down their noses at the normal folks who expect courteous service at the 20% rate. And just because there are lavish folks out there who will be more than generous with their servers doesn't mean that the rest of us are not decent people. Money doesn't grow on trees for some of us.
You may be getting better treatment than the rest of us, and it's up to every man to decide for himself what kind of bang he wants for his buck. If you think you can justify spending this kind of money by saying that you are getting better service than the rest of us, I would have to say that I cannot imagine what a standard AMP girl could possibly do in an hour to earn Smart Phone's kind of generosity. But I will never drop that kind of cash at an AMP so I guess I'll never know. From having RTFF I can tell you some of the places where I would go if I had that kind of money to spend, but it is for damn sure that it wouldn't be an AMP. I would sooner consider saving up and calling Eliot Spitzer for recommendations.
If you say that you think the tip amounts are unreasonably low, I would respond by saying that their sufficiency can be shown by comparing them to the hourly rate the massage parlors set (a 50% tip on the hour) or the cost of other services freely priced by independent providers (a total of $. 2 for NoVa service versus an average of $$ for full service charged by comparable providers). Prices have no significance in a vacuum; they only make sense in relativity. The standard treatment that we get at AMPs falls somewhere in between full service and a purely therapeutic massage, and it would make sense for its total cost to fall somewhere between the cost of those benchmarks. I think that the. 4 tip achieves this outcome quite well.
Finally, I can imagine that you might enjoy the look on the face of your provider when you surprise her with a hefty tip. I can understand that sentiment and I would admire you for it, but unfortunately I cannot afford to do the same. I would hope that everyone concerned (viz. The providers and the big tippers) would recognize that this particular pleasure is a function of your generosity and how well off you are financially, and STOP INSULTING or looking down on those who cannot afford to partake in the same.
For all the other folks, I wouldn't worry about this guy screwing things up for the rest of us. If I were a waiter and someone dropped a wad of cash on me for a tip, that wouldn't cause me to expect every diner who walked through the door to do the same, or even for them to increase their tips by a little bit. I am sure she realizes that this was an extraordinary event, and the fact that his tip was so outlandishly large would only help her see that.
WT[/QUOTE]And not every one makes over 150k a year or whatever, so there is a "normal" tip and you know that dude. Be kind to those who make less cash, sir.
[QUOTE=Just Ken]This was his first experience, he knew what to expect and what to tip and felt it was worth the $$$. I don't think this will suddenly cause the prices to go up. I don't think his provider will suddenly think her services are worth more because of this and raise her prices. Granted, this was WAY above what is typical for the services he received, but, it's his money.[/QUOTE]Reason said, allthough some of us mite cut back, they will still see 8 guys a week and at 100bux a pop that aint bad for "better endings"
[QUOTE=MassLover]King is a rare gem in Sterling! But, please keep it secrete. You know good things do not last long here.[/QUOTE]The time I go, they sure try to.
[QUOTE=Fatpig]Tried this out as the ad said new staff young on cl. oops my bad yes it is new but not young at all. Entered and got ts (new from last time I go when it newly opened) from mms. Short K but bolt on looked really nice. She was stocky. TS was ok and uninspiring. Inside the room I wait 15 minutes and in comes Ann(?). The rub was even more UN-inspiring as the TS. last 10 minutes. On the flip she could not work any magic and I have to really focus. Roaming no really encouraged and she acted like no english was understood. I was pissed and left only a .2. I left more stressed than I walked in.
They did say NEW younger girls coming in next week. So if anyone does try them let me know. I will not TOFTT at this place again.[/QUOTE]I went there a few weeks ago and got a nice young thang who recognized me from another place,but hell that aint "new" either huh? but she was 20ish.
If you visit the FairfaxCounty.gov website, the latest crime incident report ( [url]http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.txt[/url] )
shows 9 arrest for "massage establishment" violations
And although tedious to search, the "crime mapping feature at [url]http://www.Fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/[/url]
Indicates these were at multiple locations.
All the names appear asian. LE activity appears to have intensified.
Been awhile so forgive the rust. :D
Bay Therapy's star that left in early Nov. has resurfaced, for those interested and know who I speak of and I know you, PM.
A great visit!! +
MnV
They have a stand-up shower. I've used it before. I must have gotten the same person the last time I was there because she also offered me a younger, better looking provider for my next visit.
[QUOTE=Jack Bones]Gave 112 another look. Still closed. Back in the car & headed down the road to Venus. First visit. Met at the door by Kim. Nice greeting, walked back to the room. Asked if I've visited before. Right or wrong I always confess to being a first time visitor but offer that I've frequented the place down the street. She replied, "112"? I say yes & she reveals that they're permanently out of business due do an unfortunate run in with Leo.
Kim's 40ish. Decent build but a funny looking set of bolt-ons. Once in the room, she asked for the hr fee, asked me to get ready and disappeared out the door. Surprisingly (to me) she reappears about 45 seconds later. No shower was offered. My research tells me there may not even be a shower at this locale. She gives a nice massage. Firm. Asks for a lot of feedback. "is that ok? ", "not too hard? ", etc Nice back walk. After about 40 mins, stnd NoVA finish w/hot towels to tidy up. Asks for tip up front. That's never happened before? Didn't feel like getting into a fuss about it, but thought it was a little unusual.
While getting myself back together, she offers there's another girl. Jenny. She introduced me to her on my way out. They both made nice and asked for a return visit.
F 5. Showing age
B 7. Tight, but I had a problem with the enhancements
A 7. Nothing extraordinary. Miss a TS, though
M 8. Works hard, good technique
S 8
A 8. Good attitude, nice provider
Both she & Jenny were very nice. I may return because of that and the fact that the location is convenient. That said, I'm still looking for a favorite and will continue to look. If anyone has any advise, much appreciated.
Thanks all![/QUOTE]
Ruby made my end of year visit to my ATF AMP an experience to celebrate.
Ruby is well reviewed -- so most will know she is reasonably attractive, reasonably proportioned and gives a very good relaxing massage.
However, those that may be considered regular clients also know that Ruby is a lot of fun -- perhaps the best attitude of all the nice people at Kim's.
Arrival: 10
I called for an appointment, but traffic made me 10 minutes late (not that anyone cared). Ruby answered the door -- and smiled -- maybe I am delusional -- but, it makes me smile to believe she is actually happy to see me.
Some Christmas bantering, checking Christmas Packages, a hug -- "an hour and a shower today?" she asks -- "of course" I replied -- gave her the 0.8 house fee.
TS: 9+
OK, I was going to score this a 10, but my 10 won't be your 10 --- suffice it to say, a great TS, everything clean --- and, because she knows I like it, about 10 minutes of back massage under the hot water, with the soapy, bubbly hands and arms.
A hot towel on my shoulders and back to the room for the massage.
The phone rings -- she points to the room knowing I can find my way, and when she returns (only a minute or so), I am face down ready for the massage.
Massage: 8
Check my other reviews for technique, etc. She is good.
Enjoyment -- for many reasons, on my final visit for 2009, I rate this experience a 10.
Farewell: well, I am going to rate this as a 8.5, because I actually left at less than an hour. I thought I had been there almost 75 minutes, so in no way did I feel shorted -- just was not a full 60 minutes.
May your New Year celebrations be enjoyable -- and please always be nice to the ladies
PA
Simply said, saw Sunni (hadn't seen her since Aug) good time, too bad I didn't have any hardware.
Got to throw this out. Aroma in Sterling does a great medium-to-hard massage, I think best in the area, always get the full hour. Cherry is adorable 4-9" girl with a great attitude and smile. Standard finish but the massage is the best in the area. Enjoy.
Saw couple of adds at CL.infomuch appreciated.
Thanks
First I'll start off aplogizing for not reporting as much as I should. It just that I always tell myself to not even bother with the NOVA massage parlors. Why? I can't find a provider who has a massuese under 40. I always end up giving in.
Tried a new one in Vienna. You will know which one it is by their CL ads and they use a lot of "xxxxxxx" in the ads. I get there and a pretty girl answers and says there is a wait of 30 min. I say I'll wait and she directs me to sit on the couch which is right outside both massage rooms. Real awkward since I could hear everything and after the walk-out would be weird since I woud have to see on of you.
I leave and wait in the car. The girl I did see was pretty and I sensed a FS viB. I was actually excited so I withdrew more $. I walk in 25 min later and walk by one of you coming out. Older, long sportcoat. Sorry for not holding the door.
I knock and another girl answers. She is not like the first girl. Old, like high 40's. Now I am kinda disappointed already. I get in and she immediatly flashes me her to half. Never had that happen before. I pay her for an hour and she checks my wallet and asks me if I have enough for tip. This could be a good sign or bad. Not sure at this point. No shower offered.
Massage was decent. Not great. They have a clock in there so I knew I was only there for 25 min before the flip. She asks for the tip right away. I HATE that. So now I ask her if she does "everything" and she whispers "Everything but". I give her. 6. She wants another one, I give her. 8. So what do I get? A standard NOVA with roaming.
What a bad experience. I left 1. 6 less in my wallte for a standard NOVA that took 30-40 min.
Sorry for maybe disclosing too much detail but I am so sick of the upselling from these old hag providers that I really don't care if Leo reads this.
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[QUOTE=Volvos40]Got to throw this out. Aroma in Sterling does a great medium-to-hard massage, I think best in the area, always get the full hour. Cherry is adorable 4-9" girl with a great attitude and smile. Standard finish but the massage is the best in the area. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Anybody know if this happens to be the same Cherry from Virginia Physical Therapy? She had a similar height, fairly young, super cute and super smooth skin.
If so, this is great news. I have been wondering where she went.
Can anyone recommend the best Korean place in town? FS only, please.
I am moving to DC for a job next week from the great state of Hawaii and will surely share all the information I gather.
I just discovered this site and will be reading everything.
Visited CMT on a cold rainy morning before Christmas. Walked in and greeted by Sarah who appeared to be the only one working. She was a bit more liberal during this second session than last time (see previous post). Her hands are great. Gave. 2 over std tip in the holiday spirit.
Greetings and Happy New Year to all of you!
I've been a regular at CTM for much of this year. Like Pilot Aviator, I typically look forward to a very relaxing hour spent with Sarah.
My last visit was the week leading up to Christmas. It had been raining that day and I had time available so I decided to run over to CTM and see how Sarah and Judy were doing that evening. As I pulled in, Sarah was driving off, probably dinner I figured. This was okay with me as I had previously visited with Judy in October and had a very enjoyable time.
I walk in and it is just Judy and me. She gives me a big hug and takes me to my room where I pay for the full hour. Judy has got to be in her 50s, but like Sarah, she is an attractive woman if you like older gals and is extremely sweet and personable and chatty.
She escorts me to the shower room and gives me a very hot and soapy TS. Maybe not as good and thorough as Sarah, but still nice. Back to the room and to the table where I receive a strong massage, much stronger than the light massages I normally get from Sarah. The touching is very sensual, Judy has me turn over where she delivers a very nice finish.
If you are looking for more than a relaxing massage and standard finish, than CTM is not for you. If you like a pleasant and sweet provider with excellent hands and a nice finish, than I recommend you give CTM a try.
[QUOTE=Asiandude1]Can anyone recommend the best Korean place in town? FS only, please.
I am moving to DC for a job next week from the great state of Hawaii and will surely share all the information I gather.
I just discovered this site and will be reading everything.[/QUOTE]
IF you are moving to DC and are looking for a spa "in town" you should post in the DC section, not NOVA. Also you need to read that forum 1st, you have no post history and you will be flamed for asking for information without giving some. DC is in trouble now, many places have closed. Go to the DC board and do your research.
Happy New Year~
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]IF you are moving to DC and are looking for a spa "in town" you should post in the DC section, not NOVA. Also you need to read that forum 1st, you have no post history and you will be flamed for asking for information without giving some. DC is in trouble now, many places have closed. Go to the DC board and do your research.
Happy New Year~[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I am working in DC but my apt is in Fairfax County. Sorry if I posted in the wrong place.
[QUOTE=Asiandude1]Can anyone recommend the best Korean place in town? FS only, please.
I am moving to DC for a job next week from the great state of Hawaii and will surely share all the information I gather.
I just discovered this site and will be reading everything.[/QUOTE]The flight from Hawaii is a long one, so you will have plenty of time to print off both the DC and NOVA MP reports and read them on the flight.
Went to King before New Year. Parking lot was almost full and with quite a few pedestrians milling about so I went around and parked in the DMV lot and walked over.
Ring the bell, mamasan showed me in and promised a very beautiful girl. Moments later, Sophia came in and she does look very young and pretty and she told me she was Korean, 26 and normally worked in Hawaii but is in NoVa for the time being due to the low client numbers over there. Her English isn't great but we can communicate fine. I paid for an hour (0.8), got a good TS, but the place was a little cold when I stepped out, which made me become a little self-conscious.
The massage was first-rate, hot towel for 5-10 minutes, then she started with my feet and calves and also did the walk over my back. It was really intense and I was actually a little sore the next day. She said she actually went to massage school and learned her craft that way, I am a relative newbie but from my experience, this is a rarity. But so is a 26-year-old around here.
Finish was standard but excellent for me. I'd give her grade of 9 across the board except for personality 7, but that had more to do with her language skills since there wasn't a whole lot of chit-chat going on, but she did try hard to provide a GFE.
I was in the area on Saturday afternoon so I decided to give this place a try. It's a store-front operation in a small shopping center just south of the FFx/PW border on Rte. 28. I was met at the door by Kim, who took me to a room and asked for the house fee .8 for an hour. Her English was a bit hard to understand. The table shower was very thorough but felt a bit rushed. Plenty of attention to all the right places. Back in the room she covered me with a towel and gave me an OK massage and then asked me what else I wanted. I said "Everything" and she asked "How much you pay me?" I said $ and she didn't complain. The rest of the session was very good, in several positions and I left with a big smile on my face. Kim is a very sweet person who knows exactly what to do and does it very well. It's a long way from home but I'll go back whenever I'm in that area.
Oldtar
That place is in PWC and has already been raided a few times under previous management.
Watch your back!
JJ
[QUOTE=Oldtar]I was in the area on Saturday afternoon so I decided to give this place a try. It's a store-front operation in a small shopping center just south of the FFx/PW border on Rte. 28. I was met at the door by Kim, who took me to a room and asked for the house fee .8 for an hour. Her English was a bit hard to understand. The table shower was very thorough but felt a bit rushed. Plenty of attention to all the right places. Back in the room she covered me with a towel and gave me an OK massage and then asked me what else I wanted. I said "Everything" and she asked "How much you pay me?" I said $ and she didn't complain. The rest of the session was very good, in several positions and I left with a big smile on my face. Kim is a very sweet person who knows exactly what to do and does it very well. It's a long way from home but I'll go back whenever I'm in that area.
Oldtar[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tophat31]First I'll start off aplogizing for not reporting as much as I should. It just that I always tell myself to not even bother with the NOVA massage parlors. Why? I can't find a provider who has a massuese under 40. I always end up giving in.
Tried a new one in Vienna. You will know which one it is by their CL ads and they use a lot of "xxxxxxx" in the ads. I get there and a pretty girl answers and says there is a wait of 30 min. I say I'll wait and she directs me to sit on the couch which is right outside both massage rooms. Real awkward since I could hear everything and after the walk-out would be weird since I woud have to see on of you.
I leave and wait in the car. The girl I did see was pretty and I sensed a FS viB. I was actually excited so I withdrew more $. I walk in 25 min later and walk by one of you coming out. Older, long sportcoat. Sorry for not holding the door.
I knock and another girl answers. She is not like the first girl. Old, like high 40's. Now I am kinda disappointed already. I get in and she immediatly flashes me her to half. Never had that happen before. I pay her for an hour and she checks my wallet and asks me if I have enough for tip. This could be a good sign or bad. Not sure at this point. No shower offered.
Massage was decent. Not great. They have a clock in there so I knew I was only there for 25 min before the flip. She asks for the tip right away. I HATE that. So now I ask her if she does "everything" and she whispers "Everything but". I give her. 6. She wants another one, I give her. 8. So what do I get? A standard NOVA with roaming.
What a bad experience. I left 1. 6 less in my wallte for a standard NOVA that took 30-40 min.
Sorry for maybe disclosing too much detail but I am so sick of the upselling from these old hag providers that I really don't care if Leo reads this.
Top[/QUOTE]At first I thought you were talking about Youngs near Tysons (provider checked your wallet for tip) since I had that happen to me once at Youngs. Bonnie/Bunny was her name, a real hustler. But I see the place you are referring to is more towards Fairfax than Tysons.
You need to get yourself a "monger wallet", a second wallet where you just have your drivers license and just enough cash to get what you want. Maybe hide an extra 20 or 40 in one of the inside folds in the wallet.
[QUOTE=A John]I'm a firm believer only I live in my skin. I usually take good care of my providers as well. This brings a lot of benefits later down the road. I understand some people are on a budget but don't jump on someone's ass for doing what they think is right!
She will serve your cheap ass the same as she always as for the same .4 that you always give her. Meanwhile under her breath she will be thankful for the decent people. I now some of you will say it's a waste of money, drive the prices higher, bla, bla, bla.
Some of us don't mind being nice, and that's all it is.
It may have been a little much but only you know so for now on just keep what you spend to yourself.
Trust me the only person that will reap the benefits will be you.[/QUOTE]Thank you sir! Those were my thoughts exactly. I always try to create a long term relationship with establishments I visit, whether it be a nice bar, resturant, etc. Taking good care of the people that serve me food and drinks. In the long run, I probably saved a lot of green from all the food and drinks on the house over the years. Bringing in groups of friends and getting rounds of drinks on the house is great, especially lighter on the wallet when the bartender notices me or my friends trying to work our game on some ladies (failing miserably 80% of the time.. okok 95%) and throwing down drinks without us asking (on the house to boot - granted we tip them well for that). It's a nice feeling, for me anyway, to go to a well known establishment (in DC for my case since I work there) and be pampered like royality. They don't try to twist my arm and get me to dish out wads of cash, they know I'm a regular and in the long run will make their business more profitable versus weaseling me out of a few bucks.
This goes to the point of where you said the only person that reap the benefits is you which I whole heartly agree. In all the social engagements I've been to, this is a proven fact for me.
They will remeber you, and put more effort into accomdating your needs. With that said, I understand everybody is different and has different wants and needs and completely understand if they were upset on my post. I can't change the past or change my habits but since this is becoming a new hobby of mine and trying to decipher the CIA type lingo here, I'll have to play by ear and experience stuff for the first time myself to get use to how things are done in this field.
This isn't a post about what was right or wrong, its just experiences I've had through my life that reaps me benefits with establishments I regularly visit in a general sense.
So after two weeks of avoiding this forum section like the plague so I wouldn't have to start off my day on a bad foot reading replies from disgruntled members (which is completely understandable after realizing why some people would be upset), I came back to find a member's ID to PM them and couldn't resist catching up on the forum.
With all this said, I recently went back to the same place with the same provider because I felt we had unfinished business there (I bet some of you who read that last sentence is saying to yourself, hell yeah that fool does have unfinished business there). I packed all the hardware I needed just to be ready - I honestly didn't know what to expect so brought everything and came really late - I called probably 20 minutes til closing and asked if I should still come and the old lady said it was fine when she asked who it was. I guess she remebered my name from last time or just wanted the business.
I came and saw my provider and we hugged and talked and asked how I have been. It was pleasent, felt like we knew each other for a long time considering this was my second visit with her and to a MP. This time around she was familiar with me and really pampered to my needs. I still really don't know the lingo you all use and am not the type to blantly sprut the obvious so I was dancing around things like what she wanted to do or felt comfortable with etc. She understood this time and I pointed to my pocket jacket, indicating the hardware I brought, and thus the rock and roll started. When it was all done and over, I pulled out the tip and gave her *censored* this time around and she shoved it back in my pocket and said no need to worry, mimicking what I said to her last time. I was like whoaa. At first I thought she was joking and gave it to her again but she refused. She was serious or maybe was playing. I ended up saying I had a blast and she deserved it and pushed it to her again. Still a no go, at this point I was thinking - is this karma? is this the proven fact that I've gone by all these years explained above? Finnaly a 4th time I pushed it to her and said, it'll make me happy because I had a wonderful relaxing time with you and she succumbed and pulled out a fraction of the total (random little crap u can buy at 7-11) instead and went ok I will take only this, if you don't agree I don't want. I beamed a happy smile hugged and said I'll see her next time.
If you think about it, if you're a long term customer that has always provided the standard rates or a long term customer that has provided good rates to sometimes dumbass rates (yeah I did that once...:)), you'll both recieve perks regardless since you're long term customers... its all YMMV.
I think it was smart on her part, very business oriented. Hook in a semi-new customer for the long term with perks here and there. I won't even go into detail on the rock and roll since I've read some posts on people going "DUDE WAY TOO MUCH INFO".. haha.. this forum sometimes cracks me up... I read this one post about some guy was like, "DUDE 70 YEAR OLD GRANDMA BATHING ME"... it still cracks me up just thinking about it..
Anyway, this post is long as hell. Just thought I'd share this tidbit of info. Take it for what it is and again sorry for all those guys that were upset from my original post - I can't change it but still stand by it even if it was wayy too much. Live and learn!
[QUOTE=Dr Bombay]I think this is fiction to stir things up, written by the same sort that comes here complaining of getting STD's and bragging about abusing the ladies. Wasting their hour upon the stage, It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.[/QUOTE]Understandable. Everybody has their opinions and I'm the type that takes a lot of things found on the internet with a grain of salt. Anything is possible, it could be true or fake - can't really prove my report to strangers on the net considering I'm still new and don't have any credibility. Maybe my latest post (novel actually, it was pretty long after I finished) could help sway you or not; not saying it was my goal to and not saying your opinion don't matter, just putting things into a different prospective - words on the internet can be misinterrupted. Regardless, believe it to be true or fake, it is your prerogative.
[QUOTE=Smart Phone] Anyway, this post is long as hell. Just thought I'd share this tidbit of info. Take it for what it is and again sorry for all those guys that were upset from my original post - I can't change it but still stand by it even if it was wayy too much. Live and learn![/QUOTE]What possible benefit can any reader of this forum get from this post and the increasing number of others like it? Please post information.
[QUOTE=Serpico99]
You need to get yourself a "monger wallet", a second wallet where you just have your drivers license and just enough cash to get what you want. Maybe hide an extra 20 or 40 in one of the inside folds in the wallet.[/QUOTE]
Why do you need a wallet at all? You are not driving and don't need license. I put $80 in my right pants pocket and whatever I think my biggest tip will possibly be in the other.
If a massagee lady tried to look in my wallet or demands tip upfront before start of massage, I ask for $80 back & I leave.
Things are not going to end well there anyway and there are several great places to spend your money.
I decided that I had a bit of cash to spend on myself after seeing my family for the holidays (yes, this is from like a week ago). So I took a trip to MT for a little personal enjoyment. Called 15 min ahead of time to book an appointment with the girl I saw last time.
She answered at the window when I rang the bell. She didn't recognize me from my last visit, and asked my ID again. Most people think I look 10+ years younger than I actually am, its actually quite annoying. Though to be honest I can't really blame her since it was 2 months ago or so. She took me to a room and had me undress, ect. Their table shower wasn't working the last time I came, so it was a good experience this time around. The massage afterwards was a lot lighter and shorter than the last time.
On the flip she ask me what I wanted, which was FS. Left $. 4 on the table while she left for a second. BJ application was short but deep. Started with CG and finished with Mish. I noticed she was on the Rag afterwards. She claimed that it had started just now, which I don't know if I believe. Though I don't remember seeing anything when we switched positions. I should have demanded some of that tip back but I left it at that. It may be time to try someplace else when I'm in NOVA.
Went to celebrate Grand Opening.
Brand new clean environment.
Saw M*******
NOVA std +
Unfortunately, the "tip discussion" had to interrupt the proceedings.
May return to investigate the other therapists.
I returned today to CTM for my first visit of the new year. Judy and Sarah both said hello, and, Judy was my therapist today.
Judy is mid-30+ish, pretty, a nice smile, good firm hands, skilled in massage.
I paid for the hour and after a fine TS, returned to the room for massage.
I was surprised by the light massage today (as last time Judy used a medium-firm techique). A nice massage on the back and neck and legs. Turn over. Very good abs chest, legs and arms massage.
After, I asked for some more massage on back with lotion because my skin is dry in the winter. Judy worked some good lotion (I think it is the same stuff I have at my house).
Pleasant to the end, Judy helped me dress and I started to leave.
Judy chased me down. She did not see her tip. I told her it was there. She chased me down again, she still couldn't find it. It was there. Sarah helped her find it. It was under the clock. Same place I always leave my tip (including the last time I saw Judy)
Sarah chased me down to give me a hug. It is obvious to her I am not really happy. Sarah knew this was the 2nd time I had seen Judy, and the 2nd time Judy had significantly shorted me on massage time. Sarah (in her role as MMS) appreciates I never make a fuss / there is never any drama associated with one of my visits because Sarah has been my therapist for almost two years. Sarah also knows I won't come back if Judy is my therapist. So, I'll be back on Sarah's table in the future or I'll be somewhere else.
Remember. YMMV. I know other fans of this hobby who think Judy is just great. And she may be, but not for me.
Final reminder. ALWAYS be nice to the ladies. We have the option to find another provider // they are not going to connect well with every client. Judy gave me a fine massage. I just don't like being short-timed.
PA