Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

Theyre just trying to protect themselves, legally.

Allowing terms typically related to buying sex could, theoretically get them in trouble. They censor plenty of other terms as well.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't have to do with their concept of what is "gross".

[QUOTE=GinVermo;6995127]Somebody must think it's gross--like BBFS. This is only the latest in the growing series of things they hate discussing, much less doing.

I really wish that TNA would disappear forever. They certainly deserve to, and right now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hycina111;6994538]Why does TNABoard censor and block any mentions or search of Greek or anal now? Don't remember this always being the case.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheSteelHead;6995178]Theyre just trying to protect themselves, legally.

Allowing terms typically related to buying sex could, theoretically get them in trouble. They censor plenty of other terms as well.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't have to do with their concept of what is "gross".[/QUOTE]TNA is an advertising and reference board. Not a review board. The reviews there are purely for John's establishing themselves and promoting the services of providers.

Providers pay to promote themselves. It is a for profit business. They need to protect it legally.

This site is for legit reviews. Good or Bad. Not for promotion of prostitution. So you can say what you want within the clearly defined rules.

Yawn. This board only ever talks about TNA now. Wish mongers would find something useful to talk about.

[QUOTE=Morton9;6996129]Yawn. This board only ever talks about TNA now. Wish mongers would find something useful to talk about.[/QUOTE]Like, I get TNA sucks but also there aren't a lot of options for finding nice ladies to hobby with. It was literally an option and I found a few regulars there so it wasn't a total waste. Without it things get pretty sparse. So careful what we wish for.

Hit up Claireluv for a session, wanted to know if she offers msog for an hour session. Blows up on me saying she doesn't discuss the menu over text. Mind you we've had multiple previous sessions.

Asked Jenny32 if she does BBBJ and she sends me this little rant.

Apparently I'm a rude idiot according to them LOL.[blue]The screenshot was deleted because the telephone number is not edited. Moderator12blue]

When you go to tna their is a special alert that is telling providers to stop registering alt accounts.

Lmao. I knew they were the problem.

[QUOTE=Morton9;6996129]Yawn. This board only ever talks about TNA now. Wish mongers would find something useful to talk about.[/QUOTE]Great! Do you have an alternative board or place to look for them ladies?

STG ad isn't coming up. What was on it?

[QUOTE=LiteSoda;6988309]Not the same phone number as her other board one. Could be a malicious ad put out by someone else? Jealous ex? It's fucked up if it's real or not.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=ThatsHotKim;6997174]Hit up Claireluv for a session, wanted to know if she offers msog for an hour session. Blows up on me saying she doesn't discuss the menu over text. Mind you we've had multiple previous sessions.

Asked Jenny32 if she does BBBJ and she sends me this little rant.[/QUOTE]Clairluv needs to put tape over her mouth, a bag over her heads, and get lost in an old folks home. Why would you even call her?

[QUOTE=Morohei;7000766]Clairluv needs to put tape over her mouth, a bag over her heads, and get lost in an old folks home. Why would you even call her?[/QUOTE]For sure, she is an old cow. She acts all prissy and intelligent on the board, but in reality she is just as f-ucked up as the rest.

[QUOTE=GoaThillBilly;7001145]For sure, she is an old cow. She acts all prissy and intelligent on the board, but in reality she is just as f-ucked up as the rest.[/QUOTE]I went to see her a while ago and hid her face behind her hair.

[QUOTE=PussyHound;7002534]I went to see her a while ago and hid her face behind her hair.[/QUOTE]Would've been better if you porked her in a kiddy pool full of cottage cheese with a bag over her head.

Fuck You Comcast!

Rant Over.

I was busted in a sting in Seattle at the very end of 2022. My case was recently dismissed, so I had been held in legal limbo for over a year and a half. I wanted to post about my experience, how it happened and what I had to go through. I'll start by saying that I was busted in the parking lot between Krispy Kreme and Jack in the Box on Aurora Ave. I was parked and a woman about mid-30's stopped and stared at me from the sidewalk. I made no motion for her to come over but she walked to my car window and asked if I wanted a date. That wasn't so unusual because most of the girls approached cars aggressively in the same way along Aurora at the time. I had more than a few approach me the same way. She asked if I wanted a date and then paused. I wasn't sure that I wanted a date with her because I was just looking. She said that she had a room at Seattle Inn and would charge $100 for a bare blowjob but more options were available if I wanted to pay more. I still wasn't sure, she started to pressure me and I told her to get in and we could discuss it more. I never said yes but I also never said no. She said okay and walked around to the passenger side but took forever to get in. Then a police car came out of nowhere and blocked me from the rear. Police officer came and opened my door, told me to get out and immediately cuffed me. He gave me the reason for my arrest and read me my rights and placed me in the back of another patrol car. No other questions, just right to cuffs and into the car.

Another officer drove me to the north precinct and put me in a holding cell. Not long after a detective came in and again went over the reason for my arrest and next steps. Another officer took me outside, removed the cuffs and released me onto the street. I had no idea where my car was or how to get it back so I asked the officer who released me and he said he didn't know because he wasn't working the sting. He did tell me that he thought maybe Lincoln Towing had the car but that I should call them. So I called them and the person on the phone said they had my car but couldn't release it pending investigation. She also said that there is a fine which I had to pay before releasing it and that I should have been issued the fine on paper by the officers. I had been given no written fine before leaving, was completely empty handed and had no idea what to do. She said that I should call the police station the next day and ask them about it. So the next morning I called and talked to a desk officer who answered the phone, he said he had no idea about any fine and that my car was probably being held for further investigation. I called a lawyer and he said that I probably had to pay a fine to get it out but could probably pay the towing company. I called and called the towing company and couldn't get them to answer all day so later that night I took an Uber to the tow yard and asked what I should do. The desk lady there said that I had to pay a fine to the city of Seattle and had to go downtown to the cashier's office to pay in person. They'd give me a release and then I had to come back to the tow yard and they'd release the car along with any storage fees. So I had to wait until the next morning. The police officers never gave me any of this information and didn't seem interested in helping me. So the next morning I went downtown and paid the fine which was $1000 in cash only. I had to pay for two days of impound fees to the tow yard.

A couple of months went by and I received in the mail a notice of misdemeanor charges for the crime of sexual exploitation by the City of Seattle along with a court date. I had to hire a lawyer which was $4000 and after the initial court date the city offered a deal for dismissal to my lawyer. One year probation, ten hours community service, no other arrests or charges for one year and attend a john school class in person along with an HIV test. They initially also wanted to issue an order to stay away from Aurora Avenue and also submit a DNA sample for their database. The last two provisions were struck down by the judge. I found out through my lawyer that the undercover officer didn't record our communication during the sting so I wanted to fight the case, but they insisted that taking the deal was the best route because I had guaranteed dismissal and that there was a perception that Seattle was full of crime and juries could be hard on these types of cases in this current climate. So I took the deal. John school was worthless, a woman came in and talked about slavery and that supporting sex work was essentially supporting modern day slavery. An officer working with the vice team came in and talked about how pimps recruit women and girls and the conditions of how they make them work. He also talked about local men who were recently caught with minors who worked for pimps. Most of the other men in the class didn't really speak english or english was their second language and they were new to the US.

The whole situation seemed wrong, from the lack of recorded evidence to the lack of help and information after I was released to men who couldn't really speak english being busted. I don't know if things have changed in how they're doing things now, but I'd be aware that DNA samples and SOAP orders could be a thing of the future with stings. Be careful and educate yourselves so you can be as informed as possible. This is what happened to me, I'm sharing so that you all know the process until and or unless it changes. You can judge and tell me all of things things I did wrong but it won't matter, it still happened and it also happened to many others.

I get so tired of the losers who PM me asking "did you get her number?" After I post a trip report. Like I'm about to give out some girls number to some totally random stranger on the internet. Go and find your own girl. My mom told me all about stranger danger. I don't talk to strangers.

[QUOTE=BustedBuyer1;7026666]I was busted in a sting in Seattle at the very end of 2022. My case was recently dismissed, so I had been held in legal limbo for over a year and a half. I wanted to post about my experience, how it happened and what I had to go through. I'll start by saying that I was busted in the parking lot between Krispy Kreme and Jack in the Box on Aurora Ave.[/QUOTE]Wow, what a mess! Sorry that happened to you but thank you for posting as this is an eye opener on the expense, hassle, and waste of time and energy. I imagine you had more than a few nights of restless sleep worrying about this.

You might want to post this on the streetwalkers thread as well anyone who frequents Aurora should read this.

[QUOTE=BustedBuyer1;7026666]I was busted in a sting in Seattle at the very end of 2022.[/QUOTE]This was all super interesting; thank you for sharing! No judgement here.

It seems off for sure that they could arrest you in that situation just for inviting her into your car when you accepted no offer and made no request. And she approached you. I want to ask delicately. Exploitation seems to apply only to minors; did she say she was underage?

My bust experience was in CA while staying there for work. I used CL to find a "massage", and texted to set up the massage. I was super careful never to say anything other than "massage". I arrived at the fairly nice hotel, knocked, and the door opened. I stepped in and the lovely lady immediately stepped into the bathroom and two cops came out from the living area. They asked why I was there and I told them I was meeting someone for a massage. They asked what kind of a massage, and I smiled and said "lawyer". They didn't cuff me, but made me turn around and put my hands behind me, and they walked me into a room down the hall with a plastic table with 1 chair on one side and 4 chairs on the other. All filled with cops. They peppered me with questions for about 30 minutes, and I said nothing. I finally asked if I was under arrest and they said no, and I asked if I was being detained and they said they needed contact information. I gave them all my info and walked out. Figuring at any second they were going to grab me.

Got back to my hotel and called my lawyer who took point from there on out. I sweated every damn day for like 3 months while they completely stonewalled my lawyer and said absolutely nothing. My lawyer apparently made some kind of threat to them and they finally said no charges were going to be filed.

So nothing like the situation you experienced, but scary as fuck for me and living those months with that hanging over my head sucked. I now do not do hotels, I do not text anything other than time and place, and I bail on any session where the lady sends a menu or mention of dollars. That last has made me unpopular a few times.

Sexual exploitation is what they're now calling the previous charge of patronizing a prostitute. I didn't know any of this until I got stung. Age never factored into this at all. I've come to learn that stings are a factory, cops don't really like doing them and they crank through them as quickly as possible. I was never fingerprinted so the arrest doesn't show up in any databases. While in custody they hardly said anything to me at all and wore stone cold expressions. On one hand I wish I would have fought the case but on the other the result ended-up the same. I don't know if they will start recording stings or change the parameters, one thing which might work is having a dash cam or recording any interaction with a street girl. That also could work against you though. The undercover cop did mention in her report that because she made eye contact with me then that was an invitation for her to approach. That's what she said. You roll the dice any time you stop or talk to any street girl.

[QUOTE=WillShook;7027715]
It seems off for sure that they could arrest you in that situation just for inviting her into your car when you accepted no offer and made no request. And she approached you. I want to ask delicately. Exploitation seems to apply only to minors; did she say she was underage?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BustedBuyer1;7026666]I was busted in a sting in Seattle at the very end of 2022.[/QUOTE]Mine was way back in 2017. The intersection right across from Burger Master. Yeah, like a dummy I asked her the stuff you're not supposed to ask. Suddenly two SUVs showed up. Since I had walked to that intersection, they asked me where my car was. It was parked 2 blocks south on a side street. So I went to holding at Northgate and they never took the cuffs off of me in the 1 hour that I sat in there.

Then they trucked me downtown to the jail, and there I sat there along with everyone else in a holding cell. About 4 hours later, I was released on PR. Called the towing company, they had no record, so I eventually found out that the cops never towed it. I caught an Uber back to the car.

So 10 months later (my court date for arraingment was still pending, it was in some sort of holding status), a tech company wouldn't hire me with the charge, albeit pending, on my record. Hired a lawyer for $1,000 and he talked to the prosecutor and got the case dismissed. So then the company hired me after I got that worked out.

Stupid background companies that do their investigations for companies that are going to hire you -- they got it wrong. Stupid record said it was sexual exploitation of a minor. Went to the city of Seattle about it, and they diligently searched and said no, wasn't SE of a minor which of course it wasn't. Just regular SE (with a grown woman about 30 to 40!

Got that fixed with the background-investigation company.

[QUOTE=BustedBuyer1;7026666]I was busted in a sting in Seattle at the very end of 2022. My case was recently dismissed, so I had been held in legal limbo for over a year and a half. I wanted to post about my experience, how it happened and what I had to go through.[/QUOTE]This can happen to anyone in the hobby.

I am glad you got through it.

I never have done the streetwalker thing.

[QUOTE=TheRealSG;7028678]This can happen to anyone in the hobby.

I am glad you got through it.

I never have done the streetwalker thing.[/QUOTE]I know they do stings on the web, too. Like a dumbass, I used to get outcalls to my house all the time. Luckily I never got burned.

Re: avoiding stings with SW, I thought the time honored protocol was no speaking outside the window. You pull up, unlock the door, she gets in, you start driving before a word is spoken. LE will never just get in your car like that (puts the officer in too much risk).

I've not been dreaming about SW adventures in several years, but I have driven on Aurora and saw a lot of window negotiations. Maybe need to teach the SWs to just get in the car.

Back in the day, I would keep the windows rolled up on approach, and as she got close, hit the button to unlock the car. Made an audible sound she could hear. I estimate 90% of the time she just opened the door and climbed in. The others any kind of negotiation started I'd say sorry I thought you needed a ride and drive off.

My technique of course is not full-proof and like the story that started this talk about stings, that guy was getting arrested no matter what (sorry that happened to you) - the cops know even with little to no evidence, they force you either to feel like you have no choice but to plead (which should be unconstitutional some of this pre-trial nonsense), or you have to lawyer up and your $200 or less hobby evening turns into multiple court dates and close to $5 k in lawyer fees.

Good luck out there everyone.

[QUOTE=Enigma;7028931]Re: avoiding stings with SW, I thought the time honored protocol was no speaking outside the window. You pull up, unlock the door, she gets in, you start driving before a word is spoken. LE will never just get in your car like that (puts the officer in too much risk).

I've not been dreaming about SW adventures in several years, but I have driven on Aurora and saw a lot of window negotiations. Maybe need to teach the SWs to just get in the car.

Back in the day, I would keep the windows rolled up on approach, and as she got close, hit the button to unlock the car. Made an audible sound she could hear. I estimate 90% of the time she just opened the door and climbed in. The others any kind of negotiation started I'd say sorry I thought you needed a ride and drive off.

My technique of course is not full-proof and like the story that started this talk about stings, that guy was getting arrested no matter what (sorry that happened to you) - the cops know even with little to no evidence, they force you either to feel like you have no choice but to plead (which should be unconstitutional some of this pre-trial nonsense), or you have to lawyer up and your $200 or less hobby evening turns into multiple court dates and close to $5 k in lawyer fees..[/QUOTE]Sounds good in theory. However in my experience you NEVER want to negotiate with these girls in the car. ESP if you are looking for an actual blowjob (BBBJ). Never ever. They will slam your door. Demand money from you to get out or demand you drive them down the street or back to there hotel. I have had far too many experiences where the girl gets in to negotiate and then it's like pulling teeth to get them to leave! These girls are super entitled! They won't just leave your car. The girls that try and get in right away usually are pulling scams in my experience. Ask for $20 to get out etc or "drive me down the street" and then when you say no they get all pissed and start bitching and moaning etc etc. Just don't do it. Also they could reek like fentanyl and / or have it on them.

DO NOT let them in your car to negotiate. You will regret it.

Unfortunately that's not how it works out there anymore and hasn't for probably about four years now. New SW's are trained not to get in until they get a confirmation of a date. Since a lot of West Coast cities declared that they will no longer arrest nor charge sex workers they won't waste time being discreet and getting in to negotiate away from the eyes of LE. I've argued with SWs about this in various forums including on Instagram and they won't budge from their view that it's a waste of time to get in without confirmation. It does make it riskier in my opinion to approach an SW on the street, but I think that staying out of large parking lots helps to mitigate that to a degree. There are new loitering laws which will probably go into effect soon and that new proposal apparently gives police more authority to stop suspected johns, so perhaps it won't matter anyway.

[QUOTE=Enigma;7028931]Re: avoiding stings with SW, I thought the time honored protocol was no speaking outside the window. You pull up, unlock the door, she gets in, you start driving before a word is spoken. LE will never just get in your car like that (puts the officer in too much risk).

I've not been dreaming about SW adventures in several years, but I have driven on Aurora and saw a lot of window negotiations. Maybe need to teach the SWs to just get in the car.[/QUOTE]

I did a 15-minute consultation with a lawyer who specializes in these types of cases about two years ago because I realized that I was out there and really didn't know how I could end-up on the hook myself. I had received a message on another forum from someone who had been recently busted so that prompted me to start learning. That lawyer told me similar things which you've posted here. No recorded evidence, lazy SPD half-assing stings, incomplete reports which put the burden of proof onto the defendant, etc. I decided to dig into the data and found that SPD primarily conducts their street stings in larger parking lots between the hours of 5 pm to about 8 pm on weeknights. In the past couple of years I did also see men being cuffed in the Lowe's parking lot. I think that eventually we're going to end-up in the same way cannabis went. With decriminalization or some kind of legalization. Just seems that we're at the most conservative point on all of this and everyone just assumes that ALL sex work is trafficking which is odd. Nobody is looking at anything nor being rational. We'll see where it goes, but doing stings and nailing suspected johns isn't doing anything in my opinion.

[QUOTE=BustedBuyer1;7026666]I was busted in a sting in Seattle at the very end of 2022...be aware that DNA samples and SOAP orders could be a thing of the future with stings. Be careful and educate yourselves so you can be as informed as possible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BustedBuyer1;7026666]I was busted in a sting in Seattle at the very end of 2022. [/QUOTE]Sorry you went through that. It fucking sucks.

I was caught up in the 2016 Eurospa debacle. Made every noob mistake in the book and was cuffed in the massage room and placed in another room with 6 others in cuffs. Then upstairs to another room with more busted guys. Then into a bus in full view of the street to downtown jail. Then another holding tank, processed, put in slippers and grungy used tighty whities and an orange jumpsuit. Then another holding tank which was pretty fucking sketchy. Spent four hours in cuffs. Not fun. Eventually released on PR hours later.

Hired a lawyer - $5 k to walk in the door. But he was good. Somehow he kept requesting and being granted delays. Showing up in court every few months while they called me a sexual exploiter in front of a room full of people sucked but after 2 years it was eventually dismissed. Arrest record still exists, but no conviction thank goodness. Wish I could figure out how to get the arrest record buried without spending another chunk of money on legal help.

My advice? Don't get busted. Don't be stupid in your exploits.

[QUOTE=Morohei;7028891]I know they do stings on the web, too. Like a dumbass, I used to get outcalls to my house all the time. Luckily I never got burned.[/QUOTE]A few years back I used to get outcalls occasionally, and there was one that convinced me to stop. It was a woman in her early 20's. She looked good in her ad, but not like model good or anything. When she showed up, she brought another slightly older woman with her and said it was her sister. This unexpected other person showing up had me on guard, so when they started asking me questions about what I wanted to do with the younger one, I played dumb for a few minutes and didn't say anything sexual or about money. It kept being awkward and I told them they needed to leave. When they started to protest, I put on the mean voice and said "Get the fuck out of my house right now!" And they left. Thinking back, the questions they were asking were definitely the kind of thing that would sound awful when played back in court.

So, took a dive on some of the "higher end" escorts and all I have to say, are they all just GPS? Their effort is extremely minimal and then seem upset when I last longer than 5 minutes LOL. Like WTF? I can donate half and get a 1000% better experience?

[QUOTE=CreamerCity;7048119]So, took a dive on some of the "higher end" escorts and all I have to say, are they all just GPS? Their effort is extremely minimal and then seem upset when I last longer than 5 minutes LOL. Like WTF? I can donate half and get a 1000% better experience?[/QUOTE]It's been several years since I was told to take my time. I always wanted to come at the end of the hour--not the beginning! They basically want you out as soon as you've paid in full, and not a moment later. At these prices, yes. So I don't hobby much anymore. All too often, they are simply and easily ripping us right off. Aren't they?

[QUOTE=CreamerCity;7048119]So, took a dive on some of the "higher end" escorts and all I have to say, are they all just GPS? Their effort is extremely minimal and then seem upset when I last longer than 5 minutes LOL. Like WTF? I can donate half and get a 1000% better experience?[/QUOTE]Yes.

All the time on TNA they yammer on about how "great service is expensive". Yet they best ones I've had were all about $100. And those ones blew those TNA girls out of the water.

[QUOTE=GinVermo;7048902]It's been several years since I was told to take my time. I always wanted to come at the end of the hour--not the beginning! They basically want you out as soon as you've paid in full, and not a moment later. At these prices, yes. So I don't hobby much anymore. All too often, they are simply and easily ripping us right off. Aren't they?[/QUOTE]That's why I stick with qv, but some are asking 200 qv? No BBBJ! All cbjcfs. Fuck that. I'm sticking with my regulars. I just get tested every month for full panel std test, I got 5 regulars who offer 150 hhr or less. Once in a while I'll go over my budget only if she's close to a ten and BBFS is slamdunk.

[QUOTE=Organiz;7049017]That's why I stick with qv, but some are asking 200 qv? No BBBJ! All cbjcfs. Fuck that. I'm sticking with my regulars. I just get tested every month for full panel std test, I got 5 regulars who offer 150 hhr or less. Once in a while I'll go over my budget only if she's close to a ten and BBFS is slamdunk.[/QUOTE]Sounds like the way to go tbh. Wish I had regs like that. Alas I'm new to the hobby xD.

[QUOTE=CreamerCity;7048119]So, took a dive on some of the "higher end" escorts and all I have to say, are they all just GPS? Their effort is extremely minimal and then seem upset when I last longer than 5 minutes LOL. Like WTF? I can donate half and get a 1000% better experience?[/QUOTE]No actual "high end" escorts ever advertise on the Other Board or on places like STG. At some time twenty years ago some advertised on Eros.

The Good Ones I knew about were all very low volume and mainly advertised by word of mouth.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7049241]No actual "high end" escorts ever advertise on the Other Board or on places like STG. At some time twenty years ago some advertised on Eros.

The Good Ones I knew about were all very low volume and mainly advertised by word of mouth.[/QUOTE]I'm still waiting for a person to explain what a "high end" hooker is. Giant case of GPS and a simp client is the only thing that comes to mind.

[QUOTE=Morton9;7049732]I'm still waiting for a person to explain what a "high end" hooker is...[/QUOTE]Okay, this is easy:

1. Looks. Not just "cute" or "pretty". Needs to look like she stepped out of a Victoria's Secret catalog or Playboy. Body type is HWP to slim athletic. Very few "curvy" ones or BBWs are in the high end.

2. Can pass for class. That usually means at least a bit educated (although at least two I knew of had Master's Degrees). Mostly have the body language and speaking patterns down that they won't be tagged as a Ho by hotel security at the Westin or Snoqualmie Falls Lodge and can pass as a civilian if you meet up with them at a hotel bar.

3. Super discreet and zero drama.

4. Shows up on time. If you want her at 8:15 pm she will knock on your door at exactly 8:15 pm.

5. Knows her way around a man. Usually the experience is in the RBGFE to PSE range.

6. Pretty low volume. Usually sees at most two or three clients a week. Some see only one or two guys a month.

You may or may not care about any of those things. Or you may care a lot. So what the actual value proposition is here depends a lot on the client. Playing in this end of the pool isn't for everyone.

There was one of these that circulated around the Eastside for a few years. Classic beautiful slavic blonde with an amazing rack. The rumor was that she was an ex-project marketing manager at Microsoft. That was possible as she spoke the language well enough. Usually she charged about 1500 for an evening (multiple shots, of course), or maybe a little less if you threw in dinner at a nice restaurant. She knew her way around a wine list. I saw her a couple of times and then fell out of touch with her.

The other one I saw for a couple of years was also a lovely blonde, this time Swedish. She literally was in Playboy Europe the year before I started seeing her. She circulated between LA, Vancouver, Toronto, and I think Chicago.

Most of them also prefer multi-hour meetups. When you work out the price per hour it isn't grossly out range of what the dross on the other board attempts to charge. They might do shorter time visits if you prefer but I never had any of them offer that.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7050167]Okay, this is easy:

1. Looks. Not just "cute" or "pretty". Needs to look like she stepped out of a Victoria's Secret catalog or Playboy. Body type is HWP to slim athletic. Very few "curvy" ones or BBWs are in the high end.

2. Can pass for class. That usually means at least a bit educated (although at least two I knew of had Master's Degrees). Mostly have the body language and speaking patterns down that they won't be tagged as a Ho by hotel security at the Westin or Snoqualmie Falls Lodge and can pass as a civilian if you meet up with them at a hotel bar.

3. Super discreet and zero drama.

4. Shows up on time. If you want her at 8:15 pm she will knock on your door at exactly 8:15 pm.

5. Knows her way around a man. Usually the experience is in the RBGFE to PSE range.

6. Pretty low volume. Usually sees at most two or three clients a week. Some see only one or two guys a month..[/QUOTE]Yea none of that interests me at all. The girl you just described doesn't sound very fun and is super bougie. I am looking for down to earth and vibes. What you just described is the polar opposite of that. I couldn't give a shit about a girl with a masters degree. I'd rather wife up the local Latina who works at the grocery store who has a fat ass and great personality then some bougie plastic barbie doll. I can guarantee that the sex isn't better with that girl then some of the girls I've had from AA these past couple months. I will be nice but it sounds an awful lot like what I was just mentioning.

Yeah, that kind of stuff isn't for everybody. If we all were going after the same shit it would be kind of boring and very crowded.

But for that matter, I haven't found a vanilla escort that was worth the time, money, or drama in years. And for me the time you take and risks you run picking up streetwalkers make no sense at all.

For me the most cost-efficient and time-efficient method of getting my balls drained by a willing female are at AMPs. With strip clubs a distant second place. For longer-term deals for girls on my rotation I usually go with sugar dating but also throw in a few high end girls for variety.

The "Quinn Plantmama" chick that is mostly around Tacoma or Olympia kind of checks the boxes for a higher-end girl. I haven't met her because of my schedule but in conversations with her and her pictures she seems to qualify as a "high end escort".

When you are sitting on the toilet taking a shit and your dick falls into the water.

Nasty.

[QUOTE=TeninchBeast;7060613]When you are sitting on the toilet taking a shit and your dick falls into the water.

Nasty.[/QUOTE]I can't say I have ever come close to having that problem.

There hasn't been so much as a tinkers fart from the Mayors Office or the city council on when or if this new ordinance will be signed into law. It's really really strange.