[QUOTE=Ral613;3050875]Just to clarify, what is the "usual" tip at Ivy? I've only been once. Tipped a c-note and got no complaints.[/QUOTE]I would say you're good.
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[QUOTE=Ral613;3050875]Just to clarify, what is the "usual" tip at Ivy? I've only been once. Tipped a c-note and got no complaints.[/QUOTE]I would say you're good.
I can't remember the last time I was there but it was boring as F%k. This place has seen better days.
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3051361]I wanted to hit an apartment, but the ads near me did not have any reviews and I am a bit too paranoid about stings. So thought I would settle for some Sun. Went mid-afternoon, it was siesta time. Walked in and three of them were sleeping on the chairs. Oldest one got up showed me to room. Well the nap must have been brought on by a big meal since she let out a huge burp just before reentering room. Massage was firm went full time, but no teasing and moved her legs when I went for a rub.
Said it tickled. On flip she pointed to me to self serve, I moved her hand and she went at it, but restricted her top. I did notice a funky smell. Perhaps since I wanted an apt but settled for an AMP it may have clouded my visit, but just below average to me. If I return I will hopefully get a different woman.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ral613;3050875]Just to clarify, what is the "usual" tip at Ivy? I've only been once. Tipped a c-note and got no complaints.[/QUOTE]If you don't mind me asking. What was covered by the c note?
[QUOTE=ChineseInsideR;3051335]In regards to tipping here, I would be surprised to find that tipping the mamasan first will help much in getting a better girl or service, but definitely tipping the hotter girls directly an extra Jackson more than standard is worth it. They do talk with each other about which customers are VIP in their opinion and duck a lot of guys.
In some places the very best girls rarely risk meeting a new customer and possibly getting a standard {$40 based of getting a HE from an average looking-service 45 yr old with under shirt roaming} or worse tip.
They are similar to a tamer version of Sky One IMO. You need to tip significantly more here but at least the girls are capable of a memorable session.[/QUOTE]I generally tip a little more than standard for good sessions. But are you saying you have to go $. 2 above average just so they might want to see you as a customer again? They already charge that much more for entry than average. What do others think of this? Is Ivy worth that much more?
- CJ.
Welcome to the forum MMS! A lot of us tip based on good service and not how the girls look. If a lady chooses to duck a customer so be it. The customer could try one of the hundreds of other AMP's in the Chicago area and find the service they want for the price they want. If the ladies would focus on good customer service skills rather than extorting more money out of customers for poor service then everyone would win. Once again, welcome to the forum.
[QUOTE=ChineseInsideR;3051335]In regards to tipping here, I would be surprised to find that tipping the mamasan first will help much in getting a better girl or service, but definitely tipping the hotter girls directly an extra Jackson more than standard is worth it. They do talk with each other about which customers are VIP in their opinion and duck a lot of guys.
In some places the very best girls rarely risk meeting a new customer and possibly getting a standard {$40 based of getting a HE from an average looking-service 45 yr old with under shirt roaming} or worse tip.
They are similar to a tamer version of Sky One IMO. You need to tip significantly more here but at least the girls are capable of a memorable session.[/QUOTE]
DMichaels69 that was awesome and well said. There are therapist who laugh when they are able to get more money out of a customer for standard service LOL.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3051962]Welcome to the forum MMS! A lot of us tip based on good service and not how the girls look. If a lady chooses to duck a customer so be it. The customer could try one of the hundreds of other AMP's in the Chicago area and find the service they want for the price they want. If the ladies would focus on good customer service skills rather than extorting more money out of customers for poor service then everyone would win. Once again, welcome to the forum.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CJ1976;3051897] What do others think of this? Is Ivy worth that much more?
- CJ.[/QUOTE]In my opinion yes, Ivy is worth more.
Comparing Ivy as one of the top MP's and Lanes just up the street as the bottom, then I think your money is better spent at Ivy.
Lanes is I think up to 80 for the hour and wants a 40 tip (120 total) for a crappy massage with an old lady in a dumpy place. Ivy for the most part is about 160-180 for an average massage with some nice extra service that you will not get at Lanes plus with a nicer looking and younger girl. My thinking is that I would rather spend an additional 60-80 for something good than to lose 120 for something terrible.
AJ.
Another reason why I think Ivy is one of the top AMP's is because of the following story.
Yesterday afternoon I went to the car dealership to pick up a brand new very nice company car. I didn't have any time to drive it far except home so today I had most of the day alone and decided to take it out and see what it would do.
Left home about 9 AM heading South on 294 and after about 15 miles got off at North Ave. I had a lot of fun with the car, was in a good mood and decided to get a legit massage so went to the closest place I had been before (York Rd) and walked in at 10 right when they opened. A mamasan in a full Kimono walks up to me, shows me the chart and I pay 60 for the hour. I get my clothes off and lay down and I hear her talking on the phone to someone. Another 10 minutes later and she is now yelling on the phone and I'm still alone in the room. After 5 more minutes I hear someone walk in the room and I turn and look and it's freakin a guy! He stands there and looks at me and says he can do massage because no girls want to come to work today. I sit up, grab a towel and say no thanks. He then apologizes and offers to refund my money. As I left he handed my money and told me he also has a place at 696 W Lake St in Addison but only 1 of the 3 girls came to work there also. I say thanks and leave. He really was a nice guy, felt sorry for him.
Ok, no massage there so I decide I want a Portillos hot dog and I drive to the one on North Ave at Addison Rd. While I'm eating I see Spa Lilly in the mall and decide to give it a try. I walk in and tell the guy 1 hour and he says 60, pay when you leave. A girl named Susan then shows me to the room, I undress and lay down. She walks in with a scowl on her face and starts massaging me without saying 1 word. Only problem was that her very long fingernails were scratching the hell out of my back and neck. I showed her the nails and explained but she just continued as usual. I had to stop her 3 times and tell her to stop. Then I told her 30 min got up and left. She was pissed but I paid the 30 when I left and gave 10 for her.
So, two places that either couldn't get the help or the help was subpar and that's why I think Ivy is worth more than some other places. Of the 6 times I have been to Ivy with Gucci, Tina, Cici and others I never had problems like this. I would rather pay a little more for great service than lose money with terrible service.
AJ.
Then you haven't been to Ivy.
[QUOTE=E6671;3051773]If you don't mind me asking. What was covered by the c note?[/QUOTE]
Avg Joe's report reminded me that I forgot to add that during session, women answered phone and sounded like an argument with man, lasted about 30 seconds. (may not have been an argument, it may just be whenever I hear Asians taking to each other it sounds like an argument to me).
"L" and I have talked quite a bit about the subject of customer service in her new legit store.
We made several changes to the store itself to make sure the store was beautiful and inviting. You can sit in the lobby and have a cup of tea or coffee. Some fruit or sweets, and listen to Chinese and Tibetean music as she explains the principles of traditional Chinese medicine. We dropped the price to $50 and she usually adds about 5-10 minutes to the hour. The massage itself is really very hard. Amazing from someone 4'10" and 90 pounds. OK, she does not speak English fluently but she tries and she keeps google translate handy and makes every effort to listen and respond to requests. I've told her she will be successful, because understands the idea of customer service. I'm not talking about extras. But I am saying, in any business, people know and appreciate someone who really cares about their craft and their customer. Bob
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;3052326]Another reason why I think Ivy is one of the top AMP's is because of the following story.
Yesterday afternoon I went to the car dealership to pick up a brand new very nice company car. I didn't have any time to drive it far except home so today I had most of the day alone and decided to take it out and see what it would do.
Left home about 9 AM heading South on 294 and after about 15 miles got off at North Ave. I had a lot of fun with the car, was in a good mood and decided to get a legit massage so went to the closest place I had been before (York Rd) and walked in at 10 right when they opened. A mamasan in a full Kimono walks up to me, shows me the chart and I pay 60 for the hour. I get my clothes off and lay down and I hear her talking on the phone to someone. Another 10 minutes later and she is now yelling on the phone and I'm still alone in the room. After 5 more minutes I hear someone walk in the room and I turn and look and it's freakin a guy! He stands there and looks at me and says he can do massage because no girls want to come to work today. I sit up, grab a towel and say no thanks. He then apologizes and offers to refund my money. As I left he handed my money and told me he also has a place at 696 W Lake St in Addison but only 1 of the 3 girls came to work there also. I say thanks and leave. He really was a nice guy, felt sorry for him.
Ok, no massage there so I decide I want a Portillos hot dog and I drive to the one on North Ave at Addison Rd. While I'm eating I see Spa Lilly in the mall and decide to give it a try. I walk in and tell the guy 1 hour and he says 60, pay when you leave. A girl named Susan then shows me to the room, I undress and lay down. She walks in with a scowl on her face and starts massaging me without saying 1 word. Only problem was that her very long fingernails were scratching the hell out of my back and neck. I showed her the nails and explained but she just continued as usual. I had to stop her 3 times and tell her to stop. Then I told her 30 min got up and left. She was pissed but I paid the 30 when I left and gave 10 for her.
So, two places that either couldn't get the help or the help was subpar and that's why I think Ivy is worth more than some other places. Of the 6 times I have been to Ivy with Gucci, Tina, Cici and others I never had problems like this. I would rather pay a little more for great service than lose money with terrible service.
AJ.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ral613;3052434]Then you haven't been to Ivy.[/QUOTE]NO I have not been there yet. Lost interest in the Spas for a while since I started visiting the Asian apartment scene. The only massages I have gone to over the past 4 months or so have been strictly legit by choice. I have read mostly good things about Ivy from the past and wish I would have found them before the BIG change happened. Still all of the recent posts have been very positive so next time I am in the area I was thinking of stopping in. I know at Yun a C note allows all access. PM me if you feel you want to share. If not, that's ok too.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3051514]I can't remember the last time I was there but it was boring as F%k. This place has seen better days.[/QUOTE]Are we talking of the one next to the dollar store on Roosevelt?. I thought it got some good mentions recently and I was about to go there. Now I have second thoughts.
[QUOTE=Jlima;3052064]DMichaels69 that was awesome and well said. There are therapist who laugh when they are able to get more money out of a customer for standard service LOL.[/QUOTE]Looks and great service are not mutually exclusive. If you want both it justifiably costs more. If you care only one or the other than tipping "standard" may work for you. Many of us tip more and enjoy having both. Plenty tip horribly since they feel they can keep going new places and never repeat. The standard scale isn't followed nearly as closely as everyone here professes. It's easier to just say on here that we do instead of opening ourselves to peer pressure and ridicule. There really isn't that much difference in what any of these girls ask in tips at any of the spas, yet there is more discussion of how much is tipped instead of how great she looks and how great her session was. The range in quality far exceed the range of prices. AMPs aren't escorts, who have an enormous range of costs. I'm excited to find out which girls are best and where to find them.
[QUOTE=SamSinger;3054110]Are we talking of the one next to the dollar store on Roosevelt?. I thought it got some good mentions recently and I was about to go there. Now I have second thoughts.[/QUOTE
Sun in Glen Ellyn on Roosevelt Rd is next to a Dollar Store. Have been there several times. It's just your typical 60/40 h/e place with at best an average looking girl. They were friendly though.
Ivy, Cove and Marigold are better options and are only a 5 minute drive East. Lanes is there as well but stay away, terrible place.
AJ.