Philly Sugar

So this girls I fucked before. Pre covid. I fucked her in her house with her kids toys downstairs. Her kids weren't home or anything like that but it kind of messed with the vibe. . etc. We went up to her bedroom. Turns out she has a police tracker on her ankle. She offers to let me BB I pass but she is a pretty good fuck. I think like 250.

So I rejoined recently to reconnect with someone I saw there. She hits be up long story short. She now has a bf for like 4 years. She wants me to come over and fuck her, creampie her and her boyfriend watches then he gets sloppy seconds after and I can watch. So I do like MFM's and DP, DPP, splitroast. But she doesn't want any of that. She wants what I mentioned before and now the topper she quotes me 5. Now its a hard pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1ec243f4-871a-4dcb-bdfe-a89bf48b64d3[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/21f3fe9c-08ab-4cd4-8a12-2e42cb50c1a1[/URL]

I'm think she may be fucking dumb and can't spell secret. ?

But she is hot as fuck. But what's up with the other gal in the background of one of her pics.

Is she a stripper? I usually don't go for black girls but we've had some good conv.

[QUOTE=ReadyToTumble;5972680][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/21f3fe9c-08ab-4cd4-8a12-2e42cb50c1a1[/URL]

I'm think she may be fucking dumb and can't spell secret. ?

But she is hot as fuck. But what's up with the other gal in the background of one of her pics.

Is she a stripper? I usually don't go for black girls but we've had some good conv.[/QUOTE]She probably did a voice-to-text and yes, she is smoking hot. I started a correspondence with her and she is good to go. I have been a little busy elsewhere, so I haven't gotten to the terms yet. But my impression was the same as yours: she's a dancer and that photo was taken in the changing room so that other girl was a co-worker. Good luck.

[QUOTE=ReadyToTumble;5972680][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/21f3fe9c-08ab-4cd4-8a12-2e42cb50c1a1[/URL]

I'm think she may be fucking dumb and can't spell secret. ?

But she is hot as fuck. But what's up with the other gal in the background of one of her pics.

Is she a stripper? I usually don't go for black girls but we've had some good conv.[/QUOTE]She has another profile in Pensie or DE with the same misspelled version of secret. Welliscreet. Yeah, she gives great convo, if you can keep her on track. She kept disappearing and coming back to the convo. Tried to nail her down on a time to meet and she kind kept diverting the convo. Claims she bought a "house" in the riverfront in Wilm. I dunno, I think she's a scam. Talks like a stripper or an escort, definitely NOT a SB.

I know it's been said 100's of times, but I don't think it can be stressed enough. NEVER send $ up front before actually meeting someone in person. Just my latest example to hammer the point home:

This one (EasygoingActress) [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/836c7a49-ac13-4bab-97af-f328a2036d95[/URL] wanted to move chat off site on first day of communicating (she offered Snapchat initially). We went to text on second day and discussions flowed well and seemed very natural. After a few days of general chat, we began to set up a date for the weekend. Wanted 300 ppm and was offering to stay until morning. Then the red flags went up. She was talking about coming to my house for the first date (my second hard no rule) and wanted 100 up front deposit. After several attempts of "you don't trust me, we have been taking for days" and "I would never rip you off" pleas, "She" (or he or it at this point) finally saw I wasn't going to budge.

Comically, immediately after the discussion ended, their profile location changed from North Philly to Lincoln Nebraska. At least their screen name was appropriate.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5973560]She has another profile in Pensie or DE with the same misspelled version of secret. Welliscreet. Yeah, she gives great convo, if you can keep her on track. She kept disappearing and coming back to the convo. Tried to nail her down on a time to meet and she kind kept diverting the convo. Claims she bought a "house" in the riverfront in Wilm. I dunno, I think she's a scam. Talks like a stripper or an escort, definitely NOT a SB.[/QUOTE]So her profile has her location in cherry hill. I ask if she can host, she says no my place is in Del but its undergoi9 ng construction. I have a friend in North Philly. HE LETS me use his place. She tell me she loves fmf. Just wants money for her gf. Hard pass.

[QUOTE=RedBaronDaron;5968087]It's like this current housing market. There is usually some clown out there willing to pay it.

RBD out.[/QUOTE]Yup big time ignore. Was seeing someone down the shore. She flaked out, had a date, drove to her place and not there. Called and she hung up. Weird because a few days before she even made me dinner. These girls are like feral cats. Never expect them to be stable.

[QUOTE=ReadyToTumble;5977022]So her profile has her location in cherry hill. I ask if she can host, she says no my place is in Del but its undergoi9 ng construction. I have a friend in North Philly. HE LETS me use his place. She tell me she loves fmf. Just wants money for her gf. Hard pass.[/QUOTE]Wellisecreet etc. Yes, she confirmed she has two profiles on SA and that her friend put the northern one up for her. Didn't realize the friend was a dude.

She says she was a stripper for 2-months at one point, "years ago! Pic of girl in red-orange bikini is her friend and apparently NOT at a strip club. Yes, sent me pics of her "house" under construction. She has several jobs, could not keep track of all of them, her convo wasn't a straight line, more like a woman in a store, pinballing around. Knows how to operate an excavator. Also heard she likes girls too.

Has GPS and as far as play goes [B]EVERYTHING is to be COVERED[/B] and has ZERO flexibility or compromise, even after several dates. Felt like I was talking to a stripper, but something was "off" in the overall presentation / delivery. I'm sure those who think she's a "smoke show" will race out to drop a TONNE of money on her, plus an expensive hotel she requires.

What I am finding is that few girls bother to flirt or even try during convos. It's all about the 500 PPM or whatever they want prerequisite to getting naked. I mean, at least TRY to entice me to open my wallet for you. You presence isn't "enough", Not impressed by a girl that is a 10 and lays there like a sack of potatoes! I guess there are plenty of Simps out there that the visual is all they need?

Me? Like RTT, I'll PASS!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5977533]Wellisecreet etc. Yes, she confirmed she has two profiles on SA and that her friend put the northern one up for her. Didn't realize the friend was a dude.

She says she was a stripper for 2-months at one point, "years ago! Pic of girl in red-orange bikini is her friend and apparently NOT at a strip club. Yes, sent me pics of her "house" under construction. She has several jobs, could not keep track of all of them, her convo wasn't a straight line, more like a woman in a store, pinballing around. Knows how to operate an excavator. Also heard she likes girls too.

Has GPS and as far as play goes [B]EVERYTHING is to be COVERED[/B] and has ZERO flexibility or compromise, even after several dates. Felt like I was talking to a stripper, but something was "off" in the overall presentation / delivery. I'm sure those who think she's a "smoke show" will race out to drop a TONNE of money on her, plus an expensive hotel she requires.

What I am finding is that few girls bother to flirt or even try during convos. It's all about the 500 PPM or whatever they want prerequisite to getting naked. I mean, at least TRY to entice me to open my wallet for you. You presence isn't "enough", Not impressed by a girl that is a 10 and lays there like a sack of potatoes! I guess there are plenty of Simps out there that the visual is all they need?

Me? Like RTT, I'll PASS![/QUOTE]I just want to put my two cents in. And with today's economy, it might not even be worth THAT, but generally speaking, these girls that are on these sites, asking for that kind of money. Either have NOT met anyone, OR they've found themselves a real sucker. I'm voting for the first.

Most of the guys on the sb sites are regular mongers, and do NOT have the means NOR the want to spend that kind of money, even once, let alone repeatedly. Talk to these girls. Let them feel like they're going to have multiple dates. And GIVE then multiple dates. Most guys are one an done, from what info I'VE heard from any SB I've ever spoken to (may be untrue, but I'm a believer). You'd be surprised what you can get by continuing to date a girl (from one of THESE sites, not our usual STG, and kitty ads, etc) on the regular. A few dates, on the more expensive side, treating them with respect, and flattering them a bit, might just get you one that will stick.

Don't get me wrong, no chance in hell, I'm paying 500/ ppm. But a reasonable price, repeatedly, and the girl gets attached. (In a sense). She still going to go bang ya brother, if he's got money in his pocket! But if she's shown a sense of regularity, she'll be less likely to turn down future dates, even if they are longer / less money.

The ppm method is SUPPOSED a temporary thing, transitioning to a more steady "allowance". Which, if given multiple dates over multiple hours, can yield WAY less, per meet.

I could be all wrong, but, hey, give it a shot, or don't. Either way, good luck, happy hunting, and be safe.

[QUOTE=PPJones;5977694]I just want to put my two cents in. And with today's economy, it might not even be worth THAT, but generally speaking, these girls that are on these sites, asking for that kind of money. Either have NOT met anyone, OR they've found themselves a real sucker. I'm voting for the first.

Most of the guys on the sb sites are regular mongers, and do NOT have the means NOR the want to spend that kind of money, even once, let alone repeatedly. Talk to these girls. Let them feel like they're going to have multiple dates. And GIVE then multiple dates. Most guys are one an done, from what info I'VE heard from any SB I've ever spoken to (may be untrue, but I'm a believer). You'd be surprised what you can get by continuing to date a girl (from one of THESE sites, not our usual STG, and kitty ads, etc) on the regular. A few dates, on the more expensive side, treating them with respect, and flattering them a bit, might just get you one that will stick.

Don't get me wrong, no chance in hell, I'm paying 500/ ppm. But a reasonable price, repeatedly, and the girl gets attached. (In a sense). She still going to go bang ya brother, if he's got money in his pocket! But if she's shown a sense of regularity, she'll be less likely to turn down future dates, even if they are longer / less money.

The ppm method is SUPPOSED a temporary thing, transitioning to a more steady "allowance". Which, if given multiple dates over multiple hours, can yield WAY less, per meet.

I could be all wrong, but, hey, give it a shot, or don't. Either way, good luck, happy hunting, and be safe.[/QUOTE]You're not all wrong -- which you obviously know because it's worked for you. I've worked out similar deals with multiples from SA. It's a pretty good system.

A female member wrote me, with the following and in fact it's the second one to write the same word by word description of what they were seeking:

Ideally Iq would like to meet over dinner or lunch first with a small cash gift of $400 to establish a connection and then we continue with friends with benefits arrangement that would hopefully last long term. $600 allowance per week. Meeting once or twice at my place or yours. But I'm open to suggestions. Just want to get that out of the way so we don't waste time.

Her photos are super hot. Is she real? Who knows but my thinking is if you give her 400 for meet and greet you will have 1 dinner and that's it. They will cut off contact after that.

I just said I have only given something for meet and greet when I liked the girl so much and I knew she was going to be a good friend, and the amount was under 100. And she was. But my gut here, it's a fast scam taking a few guys here and there.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a44215b9-0117-43eb-b9c7-4dfb70397b42[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnLongDong;5985451]A female member wrote me, with the following and in fact it's the second one to write the same word by word description of what they were seeking:

Ideally Iq would like to meet over dinner or lunch first with a small cash gift of $400 to establish a connection and then we continue with friends with benefits arrangement that would hopefully last long term. $600 allowance per week. Meeting once or twice at my place or yours. But I'm open to suggestions. Just want to get that out of the way so we don't waste time.

Her photos are super hot. Is she real? Who knows but my thinking is if you give her 400 for meet and greet you will have 1 dinner and that's it. They will cut off contact after that.

I just said I have only given something for meet and greet when I liked the girl so much and I knew she was going to be a good friend, and the amount was under 100. And she was. But my gut here, it's a fast scam taking a few guys here and there.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a44215b9-0117-43eb-b9c7-4dfb70397b42[/URL][/QUOTE]If you giver her money at the meet and greet you'll never see her again.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2017e3ac-3de7-40a0-919e-c6f29d89d2c4[/URL]

She looks good.

[QUOTE=ReadyToTumble;5990518][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2017e3ac-3de7-40a0-919e-c6f29d89d2c4[/URL]

She looks good.[/QUOTE]Have not met her, but she gives off pro vibes based on the language she uses. Offered to meet for 450 with her hosting.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a4ed996d-dd17-4541-8427-58e5f5ebd34e[/URL]

Open to PPM. Asked for 300. I passed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9d07d278-1204-4e62-aff4-c2b55042c65c[/URL]

Open to PPM but wants to get drinks first. It sounded like she was willing to skip the drinks if I insisted. But the PPM was a no-starter at 500.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c93b65b6-22b4-4b7a-a2de-704bb3144d1d[/URL]

Wants to be wined and dined and showered with gifts with little in return.