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I don't have data to support my statements about tracking except for what I've read over the last years, however I do believe the phones ping even when turned off.
Now, I understand this site is for finding pussy, but I think its important for us to discuss tactics for avoiding problems. Yeah, if you get popped of course the rule is to shut the fuck up and say nothing, but its even better to not get popped in the first place.
Cheech.
[QUOTE=Cheech1;5574763]I don't have data to support my statements about tracking except for what I've read over the last years, however I do believe the phones ping even when turned off.
Now, I understand this site is for finding pussy, but I think its important for us to discuss tactics for avoiding problems. Yeah, if you get popped of course the rule is to shut the fuck up and say nothing, but its even better to not get popped in the first place.
Cheech.[/QUOTE]We need to share dos and don't so we stay out of stings.
I'd like to know if possible what the senior member walked into and how deceived.
Any explanation would be great to help others.
Be safe.
Goat.
[QUOTE=Rafter17;5570933]I'm not sure if this one is legit or LEO. She asked me what I wanted specifically and how long which raised some red flags. I ended up telling her something came up and I wasn't going to be able to see her that day. I'm don't know if this is related about Elyria councilman getting arrested since they don't give any details or just a coincidence.
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[URL]https://chroniclet.com/news/276735/elyria-councilman-mark-jessie-arrested-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution/[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure this is the ad that Elyria used. I was told an apartment near downtown Elyria when I was texting with them. The newspaper this morning said it was in the 300 block of Washington ave. There is an apartment building in that block. Glad I went with my gut and didn't go there since it wasn't feeling right.
There are a few ways to track phones that LE would might use. GPS and Device I'd are the two most likely. If they are spoofing a cell tower (using a stingray) or other tech that logs the actual device I'd, turning off GPS will not help. Any time the phone pings a cell tower it will give away an approximate position. You'd have to switch phones during your shopping trip in order to evade tracking and depending on what apps you used and how they are tracking you, even that might not be fool proof.
[QUOTE=Cheech1;5574763]I don't have data to support my statements about tracking except for what I've read over the last years, however I do believe the phones ping even when turned off.
Now, I understand this site is for finding pussy, but I think its important for us to discuss tactics for avoiding problems. Yeah, if you get popped of course the rule is to shut the fuck up and say nothing, but its even better to not get popped in the first place.
Cheech.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Asmoth;5574450]some rando police task force going to have that much juice sitting in a hotel room or stake out house? Nope.[/QUOTE]I'm no expert, but I will say these are not "random" task forces and even if they are local, and there is nothing preventing an industrious rookie cop from searching the internet and learning that for a few thousand you can make your own stingray and track who ever you want. Most likely they either purchased a system (six figure price tag) or are using a more low-tech tracker. Stingray use has not been reported in Ohio ([URL]https://www.aclu.org/issues/privacy-technology/surveillance-technologies/stingray-tracking-devices-whos-got-them[/URL]) but that doesn't mean they are not using them or that FBI or other task forces that have the tech are not working with local LE. The need for a warrant would be to lookup your identity based on the cell tracking. They can use the tech and track you all day as an "anonymous" monger and get your I'd once they have you in custody.
Either way, you are not Jason borne and if you are in a situation where you are soliciting and being tracked by LE no matter what method they use, you're not going to get out of it.
[QUOTE=Cheech1;5574763]I don't have data to support my statements about tracking except for what I've read over the last years, however I do believe the phones ping even when turned off.
Now, I understand this site is for finding pussy, but I think its important for us to discuss tactics for avoiding problems. Yeah, if you get popped of course the rule is to shut the fuck up and say nothing, but its even better to not get popped in the first place.
Cheech.[/QUOTE]It depends on what you mean by "turned off." If a phone is simply turned off by hitting the button to close the screen, it is still on. Apps still work in the background and the phone communicates with towers. If the phone is "powered off," that is a whole different story. If you "power off" shut down the phone, it no longer communicates until you reboot.
[QUOTE=Deton8;5574490]The law requires all cell phones to report your position (within 100 feet I believe) when you call 911. Turning off the location function does not and can not change this.[/QUOTE]There is a difference between a cell tower ping and a GPS location. A cell tower ping accuracy will vary greatly, depending on the number of towers and signal strength. Location by the GPS in a phone is completely different, and to do that the GPS function must be turned on.
This may help some of you.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Sb7e0ZT4k[/URL]
But I have seen where your phone can be tracked even when your phone is off no matter what your setting are.
[QUOTE=LenDavid;5575095]This may help some of you.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Sb7e0ZT4k[/URL]
But I have seen where your phone can be tracked even when your phone is off no matter what your setting are.[/QUOTE]Just get a faraday bag for your phone if one is this paranoid.
[QUOTE=CleWhoreMonger;5574759]Always appreciate the reports.
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Tell her "Michigan Weed" sent you.
[URL]https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/late-night-speciallets-get-tog/784931350814[/URL][/QUOTE]I second this. Have had a great time with her before.
[QUOTE=Rafter17;5574839]I'm pretty sure this is the ad that Elyria used. I was told an apartment near downtown Elyria when I was texting with them. The newspaper this morning said it was in the 300 block of Washington ave. There is an apartment building in that block. Glad I went with my gut and didn't go there since it wasn't feeling right.[/QUOTE]I don't think that ad is a setup. A couple of reasons. For one the ad is still up, normally after their sting they delete the ads. Two, there are graphic pics posted which could be construed as entrapment in court so they wouldn't use nudity, and three, stg uses a mega l disclaimer at the bottom so as long as you don't incriminate yourself you should be fine. Plus she even states no le at the bottom of her ad.
[QUOTE=BestDjInOhio;5575492]I don't think that ad is a setup. A couple of reasons. For one the ad is still up, normally after their sting they delete the ads. Two, there are graphic pics posted which could be construed as entrapment in court so they wouldn't use nudity, and three, stg uses a mega l disclaimer at the bottom so as long as you don't incriminate yourself you should be fine. Plus she even states no le at the bottom of her ad.[/QUOTE]I don't believe the disclaimers mean anything, after all, they are allowed to lie about being LEO. I don't know about the graphic pics. The bottom line is that I'm not going to take the chance. The ad hasn't been reposted since last week.
[QUOTE=Rafter17;5575673]I don't believe the disclaimers mean anything, after all, they are allowed to lie about being LEO. I don't know about the graphic pics. The bottom line is that I'm not going to take the chance.[/QUOTE]From how I understand is disclaimer = you have to enter the room and make an offer no disclaimer = they can arrest with no evidence and immediately arrest you upon arrival in your car. They can indeed use graphic pics, they just can't post a pic of the woman getting fcked or sucking a dude off. Sometimes they take the sting ads down, sometimes they do not. I too, would not take the chance. we cant really say for sure, but if it wasnt that ad, i havent seen any ads that it could have been. sumosear might have them though if that wasnt the ad.
I can 100% guarantee that they can't track you via "legal" court approved means.
What they will do is try and scare you with threats of arrest or detainment to get you to self incriminate.
Just obey their orders but say, "I'm sorry I don't speak to law enforcement without a lawyer present. ".
If they hold you for up to 72 hours, I can almost guarantee they won't even arrest you unless you self incriminate, they will have to explain why they had probable cause to do so in a victimless, your word versus their word, case of prostitution or whatever they charge you with, and they won't be able to because if you're smart you won't talk to them without a lawyer present.
Sure there is tech I can download on my phone to track cellular signals right now, but law enforcement can't use it and disclose the use of such technology without a warrant. Now will the cops try and get you to tell them your type of car? Will they do reverse searches on your phone, sure.
But trust me when I tell you I've been through this, recently too. Showed up, woman was a plant, they tried to get me to admit why I was there, wouldn't talk to them, they got pissed off and told me to get my shit and leave after an hour of trying to get me to talk.
Just keep it non explicit in text messages and in person. You'll be fine, I didn't even miss a day of work because they knew I knew they couldn't do shit. But during that hour I sat in the vehicle, I watched them just two other guys who folded like fucking cards because they threatened throwing the book at them and they admitted they were trying to fuck chicks.
They left in handcuffs I left in my vehicle and had a nice dinner then headed to another provider for the night.
I feel like this is the conspiracy theory side of the forum all the sudden, when guys get popped for fucking ****** they got popped due to lacking the balls to keep their mouth shut and ignore the threats of the police.
They will tell you that they will let you go if you admit it. They will tell you that it's not as big of a deal or a ticketable offense, they will say that they will impound and bold your car as evidence of a crime etc etc.
Just repeat after me, "I don't talk to police without a lawyer present, am I under arrest or detained?" If they say yes, then ask when you'll get a chance to speak with a lawyer and leave it at that. They are on the clock for how long they can hold you when you're asking for legal representation and not admitting shit.
Worse case if you get the most inept police LT in the world you'll spend is 72 hours detained, and I would bet money you won't spend a moment even detained beyond the time they try to frighten you.
[QUOTE=WishWish;5574864]I'm no expert…
Either way, you are not Jason borne and if you are in a situation where you are soliciting and being tracked by LE no matter what method they use, you're not going to get out of it.[/QUOTE]I am an expert and yes, if you don't tell them anything you're going to get out of it.
99% of the cases I've seen, the idiot John folded like a paper airplane be sure they were scared and the cops got to them.
I've never seen a single case prosecuted without self admission or a plea deal because of self admission. They aren't going to prosecute these cases and spend the money for the trial when they have nothing on you but text messages asking what a ****** rates are and where she's located.