"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=Wleakr;6389194]I respect getting "professional" advice. IMHO there are several "professionals" that will say the "right" thing or quote textbook to you, but may not have actual experience with the issue (meaning they've never tried it). Truthfully, you could just google the subject and get the exact same info a urologist would give and save yourself the co-pay and time. There is definitely value added in seeking those with actual experience.[/QUOTE]Completely agree. I had my first P2P encounter in 2007 and for the next two years indulged to an alarming degree with ladies, liquids and the gambit of recreational releases. One of the gals I liked to sportf**k said she'd waive donations if I could acquire and would use what she called "dick on demand". At that time viagra was still pretty new and cialis had just hit the market and it seemed most legit docs would only right a script if you could prove you were drawing Social Security. I had just turned 40 (I'm approximately same age as BobeSugar) and my doctor would not cooperate so I was SOL. As luck would have it, tho, a female client was having an affair with an older man who was having real ED issues so she figured out how to order online out of an Arizona online pharmacy with only one obstacle: she had to voice verify to complete the order. She asked me to do it and I said "no problem" so long as my commission came out of the delivery. I made a call and couple days later a batch of 10 mg Cialis showed up. I bit one in half and did nothing but fornicate for the next 48 hours. Fifteen years later I sometimes will pop one, but not always. Thing is, tho, if you have it in your arsenal you'll always be locked and loaded.

Couple recommendations:

1. On this topic I think every man has to decide for himself what works best for him. I've got friends who swear by viagra but I've tried a couple times and find it too unreliable. I'm a cialis man and find that 5 mg will do me for a couple days. I went to fill my last prescription for 5 10 mg pills and the pharmacist told me that I could get 30 of the "daily use" tadalafil (generic cialis) forth the same price and they were equivalent. I figured I'd try them and after a couple I sit here with a sore package and a lighter wallet and a grin on my face. . . And I've still got 20+ to go.

2. Over the years I've become a bit of an edgeer (sp?) and cialis is perfect if you're into that. You can start / stop over and over and then when it finally happens its all that and a bag of the best damn chips ever.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;6389075]1. Do you lose sensation? No.

2. Do you last longer? Yes, for me personally it takes me 50% longer to cum normally.

3. Can you go back to back pretty quickly? I would need a 10-20 minute break, & then be ready.

4. Are there side effects to deal with? Not really, a stuffy nose for me so I keep an afrin bottle nearby.[/QUOTE]Completely agree with Seeking on answers 1-3. As for side effects (question 4), I've never had a problem with nasal issues but I do usually end up with a sore package afterwards but that's because when I have Dick on Demand I inevitably end up demanding it boldly go where it normally would not be able (great for greek; and sometimes bbfs will occur because I'll convince myself it'll just be this once so I might as well run a marathon rather than a sprint) and forget to lube up for round 3, 4, etc.

[QUOTE=Shakal8021;6385679]Hey guys, I thought its about time I contribute back to the community. Haven't been active on here but still been active in the game. I'm going to post some encounters I've had. All of these have been personal meet ups. Either I won't see them again or I'm just willing to share them.

These will just be a brief description, if anyone wants an in depth review, DM or post on here and I may do so.

Lisapoo.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d72aaf51-2d82-4880-9770-437671bbdf85[/URL]

Wanted 3 $$ for a "quickie" claiming 15 minutes but she was here for an hr, can't host. Wouldn't budge below 3. Was GFE, all bare with CIP.

Sugarbabyyyy20.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8d6fe6b6-4a82-4f94-9ab5-ded2f7656260[/URL]

She's been reviewed on here before, if I had known I would have saved myself $1 $$, paid 3. But apparently she'll do 2 $$. Very mechanical and boring and kept holding off on the fun. 3+ hrs.

The Lioness Goddess.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4717b4da-aa00-4072-810b-80436751d397[/URL]

Attractive photos, a bit bigger in person imo. Very sweet girl, but required cover. Did anal though. 3 $$, hung out for about 2 hrs. Can't host.

Angel.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a1375f8c-b6bc-4fec-8a96-5d9fe4a2e082[/URL]

Seen her twice a while back. Very sweet girl. Great sex, all bare, GFE, and did anal the second time with CIA. 3 $$-35 $. 4-5 hrs w / multiple rounds. Lives in gainesville though and isn't mobile anymore. Can't host.

Germanbabe.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/51ddcbce-24b7-4987-b69c-d876c43e10e4[/URL]

Seen twice, all bare. Also does anal with CIA both times. 2 rounds. 2-3 hrs. 3 $$. Can't host.

Sultrybabe.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ba01bb09-6260-4fa6-bd08-c52cbfc2b580[/URL]

Pretty sure she's a LC girl. Doesn't give head but the rest YMMV. $50. Hosted out of hotel room.

BellaRose.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/536bc084-f26f-4d13-a9f7-1809d583944c[/URL]

She agreed to 2 $$ since I was younger and she let me get a pass for that apparently. Made me take an instant oral HIV test to do bare so total was $$5. Was GFE. Also can't host. 2-3 hrs.

Nezzy.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d868bfcf-9d70-447a-b031-f9a26f7a1aa7[/URL]

She's been reviewed on here before. Seen her 3 x. 1 $$-50. All bare and CIP. She hosted out of her apartment. One round.

Cute_lover93.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5e7aee4-a6fc-40f5-bb97-be5b505b4ad0[/URL]

Took some convincing but got her to do bare, no cip though. Not really my cup of tea and the sex was boring. $$$5. Agreed to 2 rounds but did 1. 1-2 hrs. She hosts.

Babygirliriss.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de6210eb-2556-4030-9373-3b9c24067e1f[/URL]

Didn't look like pics imo. Was heavier. Can't remember the damage but think it was $$5. Wanted a cover. 1 hr. She hosts.

LunaLuvv.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4e8d6587-6905-4f33-8fcd-e77c3ba0b9e4[/URL]

All bare no CIP, 2 rounds. 3 hrs. Can't host. $$5.

Kay_C.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/337bfcd7-b38d-49c2-95c4-d3d42043906d[/URL]

GFE, All bare. Let me do anal second time. Can host, but was far for me. 3 $$-35 $.

InnovativeSmartness.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3dd8cd4f-16c1-48ca-870b-33dc68f60062[/URL]

Very sweet, GFE. All bare. CIP. 3 $$. Open for more than one round. Can host.

XJ.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/706e737b-fe11-42d0-8846-25b6998aaa77[/URL]

Very fun, GFE. All bare with CIP. 1-2 hrs. 2 $$. Can host.

LovelyCe.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6dbe95a9-48ce-475f-90fd-375ac3ec10bd[/URL]

Quick fun. Only done cardate with her as she can not host. Great bbj and all bare as well. CIP first time as she's not on BC anymore. 1 $$50.

That's all for now folks, at least the ones I can find and want to share. Got a couple from SDM I may share later on when I'm bored.

Enjoy.

Oh BTW has anyone ever seen latinmami?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/26551c64-5001-4313-860f-2251c5a10d26[/URL]

If so I'd love to hear about your experience, I've always wondered about her. Willing to share more. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. Your inbox is full, would like to ask you a question.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6388533]Before I meet a girl (M&G) or go to a FC meeting, I remove my (1 rear) license plate. This is fine in California, it might not be OK in other jurisdictions. I also have black tape across the VIN # on the windshield of my car.

IK a website where you can give them a plate or VIN # (and $40) and you get the full ownership of the vehicle.

Can you advise about what you exactly do w / your filter, that keeps you safe but satisfied the POT?[/QUOTE]As for filters, I find something on snapchat that changes facial features enough not to be recognized on one of those photo search sites. Usually it's a filter that firms up the jawline and cheeks for more of an angular or squared jaw look if that makes sense but it doesn't look too fake for the POT to call BS. And if they do I just tell turn it around on them and ask for them to send a real non filtered pic and that usually settles it because 99% of those girls won't send something that doesn't look like they have 5 layers of makeup on or some kind of filter. It seems like a fair amount of the girls I've talked to on there are trying to stay discreet as well as they have jobs, in a relationship, or kids.

[QUOTE=SmittyScott;6388906]I am not sure where to put this post, but I put it here because it started out in a sugar baby situation and I would love a little advice. I have been sugaring for about 8 years. Usually have 2-3 going at once and have had a few winners and a couple of flops. Most of the advice that I have used, I got from this website.

Current situation. I am 53 years old and one of my currents (9-10 months) has recently started an only fans account. This has allowed her (27 year old) to quit one of her two jobs and she has been making pretty good money at it. Most of her requests lately have been to fuck on camera. She asked me to be the guy in the video and she has managed to keep my face and voice out of her production. Since we started this. Her account has tripled. Not because of me, but because the demand for that is much greater than just nudes and masturbation. She suggested to me that maybe I look into Viagra or Cialis to be able to go twice back to back. This would us allow to film a couple of videos per session. I have never partaken of the stuff and was wanting some feedback. My questions are:

1. Do you lose sensation?

2. Do you last longer?

3. Can you go back to back pretty quickly?

4. Are there side effects to deal with?

I had my physical a week ago and got a prescription, but have not filled it. It feels like from my end, that there is no downside.[/QUOTE]This is the classic YMMV. Everyone is different. The dosage is important, you want to take the minimum amount of these medications to achieve the best results. If you take too much you'll just get hard and never cum. There are side effects with everything. I think Viagra overtime will cause blindness actually.

[QUOTE=MacLuvin;6389437]As for filters, I find something on snapchat that changes facial features enough not to be recognized on one of those photo search sites. Usually it's a filter that firms up the jawline and cheeks for more of an angular or squared jaw look if that makes sense but it doesn't look too fake for the POT to call BS. And if they do I just tell turn it around on them and ask for them to send a real non filtered pic and that usually settles it because 99% of those girls won't send something that doesn't look like they have 5 layers of makeup on or some kind of filter. It seems like a fair amount of the girls I've talked to on there are trying to stay discreet as well as they have jobs, in a relationship, or kids.[/QUOTE]What sites do you recommend that will run these sorts of filters on your photos?

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6389766]What sites do you recommend that will run these sorts of filters on your photos?[/QUOTE]Quick, easy and free. It's not fool proof but if you find a good filter it will work and not match with your real photos online.

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;6386910]Like others, I tested with a photo I normally share and it found some matches. It won't let me see where they are from without paying though. I did click on the link to have my pics removed, but you have to do that for each individual result and I have no idea if they will really honor that request. I used to only share fake photos and then I lost 2 SB's I really wanted to see because they were upset that I used a fake pic. Not sure what I'll do going forward.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;6386935]There is a link where you can upload a pic as well as an anonymized version of your I'd and they will supposedly stop showing any results for your face. I gave it a shot and removed all info from my DL other than my name and photo. Hoping I'm not making it worse.[/QUOTE]I submitted the request to not have my face indexed and got a notice that it was approved. I did a test with a different photo and this time it didn't find any hits for me, but found several that looked somewhat similar to me. I suspect this is going to become a game of whack-a-mole as more of these sites start to appear.

If you decide to go through with submitting the request, you do need to upload a copy of your driver's license however you redact all of the identifiable information. You could even edit your name using a photo editor, but I didn't do that.

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;6389899]I submitted the request to not have my face indexed and got a notice that it was approved. I did a test with a different photo and this time it didn't find any hits for me, but found several that looked somewhat similar to me. I suspect this is going to become a game of whack-a-mole as more of these sites start to appear.

If you decide to go through with submitting the request, you do need to upload a copy of your driver's license however you redact all of the identifiable information. You could even edit your name using a photo editor, but I didn't do that.[/QUOTE]I can't think pimeyes will be unique in this technology, but at least it's a paywall service.

I will say that back in the day it was alot easier to find info via phone numbers and / or pics. Reverse google search seemed much better than it is today, and you could enter a SBs phone number into facebook and get her fb page every time. You can still find people but it's a lot harder.

I loath all these damn pic filters women use b/c the catfish risk is so much higher. If I don't see some up close and personal unfiltered pics in a dating bio, I assume the worst and avoid.

I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.

I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?

[QUOTE=PornRider;6390331]I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.

I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?[/QUOTE]That rate seems double for the procedure in the few google results I checked.

Not saying she's lying, but I would ask for a pregnancy test at minimal. After that, you can decide how far you want to take it.

Is she threatening you? Wants to out you? Etc. ?

[QUOTE=PornRider;6390331]I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.

I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?[/QUOTE]If you saw her 4-6 weeks, then she obviously had a cycle somewhere in there. 28 days is 28 days. Do the math and see if it's possible. If it's within possibility then tell her you're paying, you decide where and what she has done. $400 for the pill at a clinic south of Atlanta.

[QUOTE=PornRider;6390331]I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.

I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?[/QUOTE]Man it sounds like you are in a pickle. You hear about women all the time planning an exit strategy as a way to cash out on an arrangement so they can come out ahead. I try to follow common sense. Who would want to travel 2-3 states away for a surgical procedure that's invasive instead of just popping a pill? Then the cost seems high, extremely high. Almost seems as if she expected more money out of the arrangement, it ended abruptly and now she's trying to make sure she makes her bank and cash you out. Tread carefully. Ripper.

[QUOTE=PornRider;6390331]I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.

I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?[/QUOTE]It seems highly suspicious to me. I would take her to a pregnancy test place and make sure she is pregnant. Nowadays, they can also do DNA test. I think she just wants to scam you.

That's the problem with these SBs. So shortage of scams in their mind. A friend of mine faced similar situation 10+ years ago. He spent so much money on the kid and loved the boy as his own. Turned out the kid was from someone else, she just needed someone who is reliable and makes money to take care of her and the money. Found out about it after asking for DNA test. So first, check her pregnancy. Second, ask for DNA. They can check DNA inside mother.

P.S. I really want to have a child. If I were in that situation, I would ask her to keep the baby. But that's my situation.

[QUOTE=PornRider;6390331]I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.

I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?[/QUOTE]Man you guys that haven't done it yet- Get Fixed!! I have no worries about this. I know it isn't mine because mine are blanks!!

[QUOTE=PornRider;6390331]I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.

I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?[/QUOTE]I'd call her bluff & setup a doctors appointment to get a pregnancy test done by a medical professional. $100 she goes radio silent.