Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Willow1535;4745600]When you live in a bubble and only hear what you want to hear.[/QUOTE]I don't watch fox news anymore.

[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy;4745733]No, it's not minority rule. If you like the popular vote it simply means you would like for California and New York to decide all federal elections (and that of course, would mean liberal, and of course most liberals would enjoy that). We are not a democracy, we are a democratic republic. The founders did not want a consolidation of one massive group of people to determine the outcome of federal elections. The electoral college intends to balance the power of the vote so that those in rural areas and less populous states are not forgotten. It may not be perfect, but it is a far cry better than having LA and NYC decide virtually every election, unless of course, you're a democrat.

What I find interesting is that everyone, and EVERY candidate that enters the race KNOWS that it is governed by the electoral college and that's how it works; they only seem to complain about it if it doesn't go their way.

I have no desire to further engage in the political debate here. It serves no point to do so.[/QUOTE]I see this a lot on all the righty political boards. What it really means is while you don't want liberals to win elections, you're perfectly fine with some dipshit in Idaho having a vote that counts 5 times more than someone in CA or NY. But that's OK, right?

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4746416]I see this a lot on all the righty political boards. What it really means is while you don't want liberals to win elections, you're perfectly fine with some dipshit in Idaho having a vote that counts 5 times more than someone in CA or NY. But that's fine, right?[/QUOTE]How does a vote in Idaho count 5 times more than someone in California? Idaho has 4 votes in the Electoral. California has 55. I personally don't want "dipshits" in California or New York making the decisions for me. Like one said earlier on here it's only when a Democrat loses an election that they say it should go off the popular vote. If you know going into a campaign that the popular vote doesn't get you elected and then you should campaign to win the electoral. Pretty simple.

That dipshit in Idaho is more and more likely to be a West Coaster who moved to the potato state to escape the ridiculous cost of living, high taxes, stifling government regulations, etc., they endured in California. The same can be said for Utah which is now entering the medium stage of purple. While Colorado is headed towards being blue over the next decade. Montana and Wyoming are in the early stages of turning purple. So, in time, things will change in the mountain west and electorial college will favor the blue state of mind.

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4746416]I see this a lot on all the righty political boards. What it really means is while you don't want liberals to win elections, you're perfectly fine with some dipshit in Idaho having a vote that counts 5 times more than someone in CA or NY. But that's OK, right?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TigerKing;4745489]Yeah because Hillary has always told the truth. Jesus.[/QUOTE]Open your eyes tiger. Trump has told over 18,000 in three years. Not even close to the same by light years.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;4746497]That dipshit in Idaho is more and more likely to be a West Coaster who moved to the potato state to escape the ridiculous cost of living, high taxes, stifling government regulations, etc., they endured in California. The same can be said for Utah which is now entering the medium stage of purple. While Colorado is headed towards being blue over the next decade. Montana and Wyoming are in the early stages of turning purple. So, in time, things will change in the mountain west and electorial college will favor the blue state of mind.[/QUOTE]Texas will be blue by 2030 and our party may never win another election thanks to hating on Hispanics. ☹65039;.

It's sad what our party's turned into thanks to racists like trump.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;4746512]Texas will be blue by 2030 and our party may never win another election thanks to hating on Hispanics.

It's sad what our party's turned into thanks to racists like trump.[/QUOTE]Texas and Florida are both trending blue and will likely be reliable locked up EC votes for the Dems after 2024 or 2028.

I've already seen a few polls where FL could easily go blue this year.

A Republican winning a Presidential election in the near future is pretty much mission impossible.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;4746497]That dipshit in Idaho is more and more likely to be a West Coaster who moved to the potato state to escape the ridiculous cost of living, high taxes, stifling government regulations, etc., they endured in California. The same can be said for Utah which is now entering the medium stage of purple. While Colorado is headed towards being blue over the next decade. Montana and Wyoming are in the early stages of turning purple. So, in time, things will change in the mountain west and electorial college will favor the blue state of mind.[/QUOTE]I think I saw an article a while back where a mayor of a small midwest town was running on a platform of chasing the California transplants out of the area. LOL.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;4746512]Texas will be blue by 2030 and our party may never win another election thanks to hating on Hispanics. ☹65039;.

It's sad what our party's turned into thanks to racists like trump.[/QUOTE]The real irony is, that most Hispanics I've met tend to be conservative in their voting practices.

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4746599]I think I saw an article a while back where a mayor of a small midwest town was running on a platform of chasing the California transplants out of the area. LOL.[/QUOTE]Sure is / was such a candidate.

[URL]https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/29/for-this-idaho-candidate-the-enemy-is-california-exodus/[/URL]

And there is this read about the Californimmigration.

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-west-coast-transplants-pour-in-a-small-idaho-town-has-a-big-dilemma-11579611600[/URL]

[QUOTE=BengalMan;4746505]Open your eyes tiger. Trump has told over 18,000 in three years. Not even close to the same by light years.[/QUOTE]My eyes are open. 18,000. Sounds legit. No telling how many lies were on Hillary's server she smashed and destroyed. Maybe 18,001.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;4746654]Sure is / was such a candidate.

[URL]https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/29/for-this-idaho-candidate-the-enemy-is-california-exodus/[/URL]

And there is this read about the Californimmigration.

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-west-coast-transplants-pour-in-a-small-idaho-town-has-a-big-dilemma-11579611600[/URL][/QUOTE]Had to fish out my WSJ login info for that one. Usually reading on an iPad. Good article.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4746533]Texas and Florida are both trending blue and will likely be reliable locked up EC votes for the Dems after 2024 or 2028.

I've already seen a few polls where FL could easily go blue this year.

A Republican winning a Presidential election in the near future is pretty much mission impossible.[/QUOTE]There is a joke circulating in Germany:

"What borders on stupidity?

"Mexico and Canada!

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4746602]The real irony is, that most Hispanics I've met tend to be conservative in their voting practices.[/QUOTE]It's mostly an age thing. Latinos older than 55 vote Repub in a higher percentage than those under that age.

But overall, about 70% of all Latinos vote Democrat.

[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/09/how-latinos-voted-in-2018-midterms/[/URL]

I try not to watch any of the cable "news" shows and choose to read / research things for myself. I also stay away from Facebook and Twitter as well. I only discuss politics with my friends. Some tend to lean one way or the other, but that doesn't bother me. I can't deal with people who are entrenched and stuck in that mode where they think that "their side" is superior. I consider myself to be a Libertarian. I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats in the past and will continue to base my decisions on the issues, rather than vote along party lines.

I think that we should all have to pass a test (civics, political science, math, etc,) before you can vote. Maybe even spelling! Everyone should be able to vote, but you should have a clue on how our government works.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;4746277]I don't watch fox news anymore.[/QUOTE]