"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

I am a couple months into the bowl with one regular SB and dabbling with other pots (and a SO who's not dumb). I want to know if there is better / newer advice. I have a prepaid burner and a encrypted / onioned email.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1819239]How I do it. I have a small kit of my SD accessories. It is packed in a small zipper case like you use for storing thumbdrives. It is very discreet.

Then when I get home I immediately go to the garage. No one dares set foot in the garage because that is where work gets done. LOL So this is primarily my domain. The closest anyone in my family goes to the garage is to throw something out there through the back door. But there are really high shelves in there loaded with all kinds of boxes and junk.

No one especially my short wife could reach these shelves. But up on one shelf is a nondescript cardboard box which I put my kit, and I have to step on the riding mower seat to get to it. And then I can barely get to it. You could not ever put a ladder there because the mower is in the way. Which no one would dare touch also. Then on the mower seat is a small towel to indicate if anyone has touched the seat.

Anyway you get the idea. I can reach up there and grab my kit in less than five seconds and be gone. By the way it is the last thing I take in my car and the first thing I put away when I come home. Don't want it left in the car.

It is working so far.

Revvo[/QUOTE]

I had one POT do this to me and I finally realized they were just cat fishing. They can have their fun.

[QUOTE=FScott;3020946]Brother Stark,

This is new and crucial intel. NOW I'm thinking one of two things: this girl is either a UTR pro, or just likes jerking guys around instead of jerking them off. The last minute cancellations, followed by the protestations that she "really wants to reschedule" is a warning bell to me. I chased a similar little bunny a few years back to no avail. If she is UTR, she'll go for the John in the Hand over the Meet for Coffee John in the Bush in an instant.

I think you need to rely on your local brothers for additional insight, but for what it's worth, this one now seems like mostly effort, and very little, if any, reward.

I hope I'm wrong, and I look forward to your post that proves me so.

Scott.[/QUOTE]

So, first off thanks to all that contribute. I wouldn't have ever joined SA without this forum. If you think you can't get er done, here's my experience. First I'm 59 claiming 52. Married, and yea I claim it on the site. I'm physically very fit but no Brad Pitt, (average looks). I have had all kinds of pots, great success bringing several babys out for drinks and ending the night with her bobbing for spluge. (in the car). I have a semi regular who has her own place, I've been with the hottest 18 year old You can imagine. This girl was hesitant to go for a hotel date right up, but car fun, oh yes indeed. Had her saying "fuck me daddy" over and over while I stroked her pussy into an electric orgasm. I have found the 18-20 crowd love the idea of getting to know someone, especially an older daddy in the privacy of an automobile. Mind you it has to be positioned correctly, it's an option I offer them if there a bit hesitant. Seams the 18-21 year old Crowd will suck dick like it was shaking hands, regular business. I'm working on an 18 year old That wants me to take her to her total limit. She's not a super baby, a little chunky, cute face, but wants to dominated in the worst way. I can't wait to have her tongue in my ass. Again thanks for all the posts, good hunting my friends.

[QUOTE=SouthShoreAlex;3021916]So, first off thanks to all that contribute. I wouldn't have ever joined SA without this forum. If you think you can't get er done, here's my experience. First I'm 59 claiming 52. Married, and yea I claim it on the site. I'm physically very fit but no Brad Pitt, (average looks). I have had all kinds of pots, great success bringing several babys out for drinks and ending the night with her bobbing for spluge. (in the car). I have a semi regular who has her own place, I've been with the hottest 18 year old You can imagine. This girl was hesitant to go for a hotel date right up, but car fun, oh yes indeed. Had her saying "fuck me daddy" over and over while I stroked her pussy into an electric orgasm. I have found the 18-20 crowd love the idea of getting to know someone, especially an older daddy in the privacy of an automobile. Mind you it has to be positioned correctly, it's an option I offer them if there a bit hesitant. Seams the 18-21 year old Crowd will suck dick like it was shaking hands, regular business. I'm working on an 18 year old That wants me to take her to her total limit. She's not a super baby, a little chunky, cute face, but wants to dominated in the worst way. I can't wait to have her tongue in my ass. Again thanks for all the posts, good hunting my friends.[/QUOTE]Do you find the best place for a car date is? I heard someone say church parking lot in the daytime.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3021927]Do you find the best place for a car date is? I heard someone say church parking lot in the daytime.[/QUOTE]Thats a trick in itself, I like the church idea. If it's a drink out I always scout a remote spot to park so if it goes there, I'm good. Daytimes can be tough, my last adventure was in a parking lot of overflow commuters. Figured most wouldn't be back till end of business. I'm always scouting when just out driving, good spots are gold.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3021927]Do you find the best place for a car date is? I heard someone say church parking lot in the daytime.[/QUOTE]Thousands of pages of secret squirrel shit as how to eva! De and escape detection and its now car dates. Guess that totally erases any trail to a motel unless you use the motel / hotel parking lot.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;3012516]...They will probably eventually invent a sex robot to do what she does, but she should be the pattern for the programming...[/QUOTE]BTW doesn't your dick get sore to the point of bleeding after prolonged sucking or does it depend on the technique? Some women have to be told to keep their teeth out of the way!

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3021040]This is an old post I found by looking for more hints about how to keep under the radar. I wonder what the 3 years later assessment is. I feel I am taking a calculated risk b / c not being in the bowl means a certainty of not having any even barely adequate sex, and I can't really go to my grave that way. I am taking all the precautions I've learned from you masters, but I mess up times too. See my post in the LA thread about ModelMilf.[/QUOTE]I was about to write up a new post on this topic when I read your timely post with JohnGSmith's very relevant post from a few years ago. JohnGSmith was right on the money when he said a year in the bowl will put you at a 90% risk of getting busted. I have been very active (1 to 2 FCs a week) in the bowl for a year now, and the two years prior in the escort (incall) scene. Married 28 years, past 23 with zero intimacy. Basically went 20 years as the loyal husband. Enough was enough but didn't want to go the divorce route. Had some near misses the past 3 years on getting busted but made a critical mistake 10 days ago by leaving my computer on in my home office on the 2nd floor of our home. Worse was not changing my password. Left on an overnite trip to a city two hours away to see one of my regular SBs (very hot 18 yr old) and a POT for a m & g the following morning. As I am checking in to the hotel get a text and then a phone call from the SO. She had found just a few incriminating items on my computer, one of which had me dead in the water. BUSTED. My SO calmly suggested I drive the two hours back home "to talk" (I did). When I got home she had printed out copies of incriminating evidence and placed them on the table. I elected to say very little and let her talk. The infidelity aspect bothered her but the real anger seemed to be her finding out my # 1 SB who was 20 years old, six years younger than our daughter She had already called our daughter to fill her in on my sugar bowl activity, and since she lives locally I know that she and I will be having a delicate father / daughter conversation about this. Meanwhile my SO made me promise to cancel my SA account and not to see "Sarah" anymore. Although she continued to be pissy here and there the next couple of days she actually surprised me by not making my life miserable. If anything we have actually got along better. So where do I go from here? Before I go "anywhere" I had my IT buddy (he is one of 2 friends who knows of my secret life) set up better security barriers on my computer, including putting my xfiles and excel contact info on an password protected thumb drive. But seriously where do I go from here? I wish I could negotiate an open marriage but I just don't think I could sell it, even to an SO who made the statement 10 days ago " I am not required to have sex with you" (to which I should have said "but am I only required to have a sexual relationship with you? Admittedly I did jump back into the FC twice this week, rescheduling with the hot 18 year old and once with a former favorite escort (27 year old) I hadn't seen for over a year who texted me out of the blue. She has her own place and requires minimal funds from me, but our sex was just not as good as what I get from the 18 -22 SBs. I know the evening hotel FCs will be fewer and farther in between. I will no doubt wean the FC frequency down to 2 to 3 times a month, probably stick with a couple of current SBs and look for talent closer to home (less time away from the house) but know that increases the risk as well. My IT buddy keeps telling me I should just lock in on one SB who is older (30-40) who could be a LTR. He is probably right but I am afraid I have an addiction to the 18-22 year old pussy. Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3023612]I was about to write up a new post on this topic when I read your timely post with JohnGSmith's very relevant post from a few years ago. JohnGSmith was right on the money when he said a year in the bowl will put you at a 90% risk of getting busted. I have been very active (1 to 2 FCs a week) in the bowl for a year now, and the two years prior in the escort (incall) scene. Married 28 years, past 23 with zero intimacy. Basically went 20 years as the loyal husband. Enough was enough but didn't want to go the divorce route. Had some near misses the past 3 years on getting busted but made a critical mistake 10 days ago by leaving my computer on in my home office on the 2nd floor of our home. Worse was not changing my password. Left on an overnite trip to a city two hours away to see one of my regular SBs (very hot 18 yr old) and a POT for a m & g the following morning. As I am checking in to the hotel get a text and then a phone call from the SO. She had found just a few incriminating items on my computer, one of which had me dead in the water. BUSTED. My SO calmly suggested I drive the two hours back home "to talk" (I did). When I got home she had printed out copies of incriminating evidence and placed them on the table. I elected to say very little and let her talk. The infidelity aspect bothered her but the real anger seemed to be her finding out my # 1 SB who was 20 years old, six years younger than our daughter She had already called our daughter to fill her in on my sugar bowl activity, and since she lives locally I know that she and I will be having a delicate father / daughter conversation about this. Meanwhile my SO made me promise to cancel my SA account and not to see "Sarah" anymore. Although she continued to be pissy here and there the next couple of days she actually surprised me by not making my life miserable. If anything we have actually got along better. So where do I go from here? Before I go "anywhere" I had my IT buddy (he is one of 2 friends who knows of my secret life) set up better security barriers on my computer, including putting my xfiles and excel contact info on an password protected thumb drive. But seriously where do I go from here? I wish I could negotiate an open marriage but I just don't think I could sell it, even to an SO who made the statement 10 days ago " I am not required to have sex with you" (to which I should have said "but am I only required to have a sexual relationship with you? Admittedly I did jump back into the FC twice this week, rescheduling with the hot 18 year old and once with a former favorite escort (27 year old) I hadn't seen for over a year who texted me out of the blue. She has her own place and requires minimal funds from me, but our sex was just not as good as what I get from the 18 -22 SBs. I know the evening hotel FCs will be fewer and farther in between. I will no doubt wean the FC frequency down to 2 to 3 times a month, probably stick with a couple of current SBs and look for talent closer to home (less time away from the house) but know that increases the risk as well. My IT buddy keeps telling me I should just lock in on one SB who is older (30-40) who could be a LTR. He is probably right but I am afraid I have an addiction to the 18-22 year old pussy. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]Don't think you need any advice. The so already has the goods that can be used anytime. Changing your security just shows that your guilty and covering tracks. The horse is already out of the barn, to latec to shut door now. Two options I see since your addicted. End the marriage or stay and play till she decides to drop the hammer.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3023612]I was about to write up a new post on this topic when I read your timely post with JohnGSmith's very relevant post from a few years ago. JohnGSmith was right on the money when he said a year in the bowl will put you at a 90% risk of getting busted. I have been very active (1 to 2 FCs a week) in the bowl for a year now, and the two years prior in the escort (incall) scene. Married 28 years, past 23 with zero intimacy. Basically went 20 years as the loyal husband. Enough was enough but didn't want to go the divorce route. Had some near misses the past 3 years on getting busted but made a critical mistake 10 days ago by leaving my computer on in my home office on the 2nd floor of our home. Worse was not changing my password. Left on an overnite trip to a city two hours away to see one of my regular SBs (very hot 18 yr old) and a POT for a m & g the following morning. As I am checking in to the hotel get a text and then a phone call from the SO. She had found just a few incriminating items on my computer, one of which had me dead in the water. BUSTED. My SO calmly suggested I drive the two hours back home "to talk" (I did). When I got home she had printed out copies of incriminating evidence and placed them on the table. I elected to say very little and let her talk. The infidelity aspect bothered her but the real anger seemed to be her finding out my # 1 SB who was 20 years old, six years younger than our daughter She had already called our daughter to fill her in on my sugar bowl activity, and since she lives locally I know that she and I will be having a delicate father / daughter conversation about this. Meanwhile my SO made me promise to cancel my SA account and not to see "Sarah" anymore. Although she continued to be pissy here and there the next couple of days she actually surprised me by not making my life miserable. If anything we have actually got along better. So where do I go from here? Before I go "anywhere" I had my IT buddy (he is one of 2 friends who knows of my secret life) set up better security barriers on my computer, including putting my xfiles and excel contact info on an password protected thumb drive. But seriously where do I go from here? I wish I could negotiate an open marriage but I just don't think I could sell it, even to an SO who made the statement 10 days ago " I am not required to have sex with you" (to which I should have said "but am I only required to have a sexual relationship with you? Admittedly I did jump back into the FC twice this week, rescheduling with the hot 18 year old and once with a former favorite escort (27 year old) I hadn't seen for over a year who texted me out of the blue. She has her own place and requires minimal funds from me, but our sex was just not as good as what I get from the 18 -22 SBs. I know the evening hotel FCs will be fewer and farther in between. I will no doubt wean the FC frequency down to 2 to 3 times a month, probably stick with a couple of current SBs and look for talent closer to home (less time away from the house) but know that increases the risk as well. My IT buddy keeps telling me I should just lock in on one SB who is older (30-40) who could be a LTR. He is probably right but I am afraid I have an addiction to the 18-22 year old pussy. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]There have been many brothers that have just mysteriously stopped posting in this thread, and I have to believe it's because many of them got caught and there wasn't enough left of them to post what happened. LOL. So congrats on reporting back.

I agree with JGS that getting caught is pretty much inevitable unless the addiction is controlled, by that I mean cutting ties with SBs for enough months or weeks that her subconscious awareness (believe me they all have it) is quelled.

I think the bowl can only work, long-term for a few types of situations:

1. You're single and have the right combination of game and / or disposable income.
2. You have an SO but also enough discipline to put it down periodically, forget about it, go on with life, and start up again later.
3. Open marriage.
4. You really want a divorce, but can't motivate yourself to initiate it and thus want to dissolve it the old fashioned way, and can afford the financial devastation of this approach.

Me, I'm in the second group. Managing addiction of any sort takes a lot of self-discipline and is not fun. Sometimes the "bummer effect" of forcing myself to terminate my website subscriptions and stop texting girls is so difficult, that I think it has a long term therapeutical benefit -- it conditions my mind to accept the unpleasant side of the hobby, and that serves as a constant reminder that if I let my addiction get out of control, the withdrawal is just going to be more difficult to endure.

Imagine a heroin addict that, for whatever reason, developed the will power to occasionally just put it down. However, doing so makes him sick -- to the point that once he is well, he thinks twice about picking up the pipe or the needle again. He realizes this might be a good thing -- by going on less frequent binges and with lower doses, he won't have to tolerate such a traumatic withdrawal. Eventually with practice he finds a good balance where he can dabble here and there, but back out before he gets too deep. The ups and downs of the use and withdrawal cycle never completely disappear, but become so undramatic that it becomes more like a sustainable way of life than a monkey on his back.

This is what I call addiction management. This is where I am with it all, except instead of heroin it's hot young pussy. I don't get as much of it as I'd like to of course, but I also don't have to deal with the extremes of the darker side of the hobby (I. E. Giving up my LTR, or watching my financial status erode after assigning my dick the job of chief financial officer of my life).

I recommend this whenever its an option, but for those who are just in sexless marriages I'd say get out of the marriage first. You have a valid case for getting out of the marriage with minimal damage (alienation of affection or whatever) -- the courts will understand this. Then use your single status (with your rightful finances still intact) to bang lots of hot young pussy. If for some reason its impossible to motivate oneself to do this, its a likely an indication of a greater emotional attachment to the SO, which is a real trouble sign because it means if the shit hits the fan, the devastation will be both monetary and emotional.

For those who don't feel they are up to developing the self-discipline for addiction management I described, but want to keep their marriage intact, I would HIGHLY recommend sticking to escorts. The bowl is infinitely more risky to a married guy than escorts, overall, notwithstanding the escorts that masquerade as SBs but basically function as an overpaid regular BP girl.

For your particular situation Stormy I'd suggest staying alert / cautious / careful. The behavior you described about getting along better is very common after a situation like this, but it does not foretell smooth waters ahead necessarily. Every situation is different but women have a tendency to be understanding at first, but then hard feelings begin to fester as they plan and scheme their optimal $$$ ExitStrategy $$$. You know your situation better than anyone but wanted to mention that's an incredibly common short-term pattern of behavior on the cheated on wife's part.

Agree with both you and JHC and appreciate the guidance. (if caught and unwilling or unable to disavow future dalliance, I see no way his SO sticks) Putting me in a dilemma. I have a SO I want to stay with, actually, and my SB who looks promising as a LTR (discreet finance is the challenge). I'm not the type to easily switch ladies. Given the SB is exclusive on an allowance, how do I switch her off and on like a faucet to enable me to ground myself with the SO? My SO has suspected me many times when I had done nothing (perhaps more as a threat / reminder than a fact-based suspicion).

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;3023769]There have been many brothers that have just mysteriously stopped posting in this thread, and I have to believe it's because many of them got caught and there wasn't enough left of them to post what happened. LOL. So congrats on reporting back.

I agree with JGS that getting caught is pretty much inevitable unless the addiction is controlled, by that I mean cutting ties with SBs for enough months or weeks that her subconscious awareness (believe me they all have it) is quelled.

I think the bowl can only work, long-term for a few types of situations:

1. You're single and have the right combination of game and / or disposable income.
2. You have an SO but also enough discipline to put it down periodically, forget about it, go on with life, and start up again later.
3. Open marriage.
4. You really want a divorce, but can't motivate yourself to initiate it and thus want to dissolve it the old fashioned way, and can afford the financial devastation of this approach.

Me, I'm in the second group. Managing addiction of any sort takes a lot of self-discipline and is not fun. Sometimes the "bummer effect" of forcing myself to terminate my website subscriptions and stop texting girls is so difficult, that I think it has a long term therapeutical benefit -- it conditions my mind to accept the unpleasant side of the hobby, and that serves as a constant reminder that if I let my addiction get out of control, the withdrawal is just going to be more difficult to endure.

Imagine a heroin addict that, for whatever reason, developed the will power to occasionally just put it down. However, doing so makes him sick -- to the point that once he is well, he thinks twice about picking up the pipe or the needle again. He realizes this might be a good thing -- by going on less frequent binges and with lower doses, he won't have to tolerate such a traumatic withdrawal. Eventually with practice he finds a good balance where he can dabble here and there, but back out before he gets too deep. The ups and downs of the use and withdrawal cycle never completely disappear, but become so undramatic that it becomes more like a sustainable way of life than a monkey on his back.

This is what I call addiction management. This is where I am with it all, except instead of heroin it's hot young pussy. I don't get as much of it as I'd like to of course, but I also don't have to deal with the extremes of the darker side of the hobby (I. E. Giving up my LTR, or watching my financial status erode after assigning my dick the job of chief financial officer of my life).

I recommend this whenever its an option, but for those who are just in sexless marriages I'd say get out of the marriage first. You have a valid case for getting out of the marriage with minimal damage (alienation of affection or whatever) -- the courts will understand this. Then use your single status (with your rightful finances still intact) to bang lots of hot young pussy. If for some reason its impossible to motivate oneself to do this, its a likely an indication of a greater emotional attachment to the SO, which is a real trouble sign because it means if the shit hits the fan, the devastation will be both monetary and emotional.

For those who don't feel they are up to developing the self-discipline for addiction management I described, but want to keep their marriage intact, I would HIGHLY recommend sticking to escorts. The bowl is infinitely more risky to a married guy than escorts, overall, notwithstanding the escorts that masquerade as SBs but basically function as an overpaid regular BP girl.

For your particular situation Stormy I'd suggest staying alert / cautious / careful. The behavior you described about getting along better is very common after a situation like this, but it does not foretell smooth waters ahead necessarily. Every situation is different but women have a tendency to be understanding at first, but then hard feelings begin to fester as they plan and scheme their optimal $$$ ExitStrategy $$$. You know your situation better than anyone but wanted to mention that's an incredibly common short-term pattern of behavior on the cheated on wife's part.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3024252]Agree with both you and JHC and appreciate the guidance. (if caught and unwilling or unable to disavow future dalliance, I see no way his SO sticks) Putting me in a dilemma. I have a SO I want to stay with, actually, and my SB who looks promising as a LTR (discreet finance is the challenge). I'm not the type to easily switch ladies. Given the SB is exclusive on an allowance, how do I switch her off and on like a faucet to enable me to ground myself with the SO? My SO has suspected me many times when I had done nothing (perhaps more as a threat / reminder than a fact-based suspicion).[/QUOTE]Keeping with my belief that the four situations outlined in prior post are the only hopes for successful long term play in the bowl, I would say it should be possible to switch one SB on or off (just know that by staying exclusively with one your likelihood of getting caught increases the longer you're with her). I guess I would just tell the SB that due to domestic issues, you need to make some changes and that it's going to be cash-and-carry for the foreseeable future. If she's had an SD before, she's likely been down that road and the concept likely won't be new to her. Then hit an ATM machine or whatever before each date.

I will say that what you'd like to do is basically incompatible with my strategies for managing addiction, because staying with one SB long-term basically feeds the addiction. This is because you're forming additional behavioral patterns and habits that are dependent on your circumstances with that one person. When you jump from girl to girl, you are less prone to develop habits -- habits that are easier for your SO to learn and use to your disadvantage. Men are creatures of habit by nature and women are masters of exploiting those habits to our disadvantage. By never staying in the comfort zone for too long, you avoid her mental targeting system from locking onto your behavior. Women stay humble when you keep them guessing, it's when they've figured you out that they know they have the upper hand and start playing that hand against you.

Unlearning existing behavior can be hard. Pushing ourselves outside our comfort zones is not fun. We just want to get laid, we don't want to necessarily think up ways to challenge ourselves. But in my opinion it's necessary for someone doing this that wants to keep their marriage or relationship in tact. That's one reason I like to take breaks from it entirely from time to time, chasing SBs while making sure things at home are adequately taken care of can be a lot of work.

[QUOTE=Starkey2008;2933149]Not sure she was VeronicaSA. But definitely went by Veronica. She has deactivated her account. This girl's real name is Haley. She's brunette spinner, very tan, who used to dance at Pure Pleasure (she's been discussed on other forums before, so she is really more UTR). She's hot as balls, a great lay, and laid back personality. She is real college student and I really like her. But last time I saw her I caught her trying to lift one of the room keys while I was cleaning up in the bathroom. Guess she planned on coming back later. To do who knows what. I called her on it. She came clean, but then went dark. I also found a social media account where she discusses her shoplifting habit. Recently I think she reconciled with her loser boyfriend. Oh well. I will miss banging her.

Stay Safe.

Stark.[/QUOTE]This is why I love this site! So I had a meet and greet with Veronica from SA whose real name is Haley. Stark, you are correct she is hot as balls. She was asking for $$$ which I thought was high but for a hot chick like her I was willing to pay it. I did see in a previous review that she was at one time offering CFS for $. I guess prices went up. She seemed like such a wonderful person. I was getting ready to set up our next date and close the deal. However, after hearing how she tried to lift your room key I am going to have to pass on her. I was going to set up our next meeting at my place but I don't want to give her my address. I also found her facebook page and one picture had a bunch of money on her bed with two hand guns. She told me how she used to date a guy who went to jail and how she would visit him twice a week. I think I am going to have to go dark on her. Thanks Stark for saving me a lot of money. I would love to bang her but I don't like drama. I guess back to square one.

Scott,

I agree and red flags went up as soon as that happened. Which is why I posted to see if any of the brothers had actually closed the deal and met with her in person. That's really all the additional effort I have made. That, and a text message every couple of days. She's hot, so if the price is right, I don't mind if she is UTR. But my recent approach with her has changed. I know she drives, so my new strategy has been to get her to come to me. At this point I'm certainly not driving to NOVA or DC to be stood up. I'll keep you posted.

Stark.

[QUOTE=FScott;3020946]Brother Stark,

This is new and crucial intel. NOW I'm thinking one of two things: this girl is either a UTR pro, or just likes jerking guys around instead of jerking them off. The last minute cancellations, followed by the protestations that she "really wants to reschedule" is a warning bell to me. I chased a similar little bunny a few years back to no avail. If she is UTR, she'll go for the John in the Hand over the Meet for Coffee John in the Bush in an instant.

I think you need to rely on your local brothers for additional insight, but for what it's worth, this one now seems like mostly effort, and very little, if any, reward.

I hope I'm wrong, and I look forward to your post that proves me so.

Scott.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3021087]I am a couple months into the bowl with one regular SB and dabbling with other pots (and a SO who's not dumb). I want to know if there is better / newer advice. I have a prepaid burner and a encrypted / onioned email.[/QUOTE]Just to add my $. 02 here, the original quote referenced on this post was by a fellow Club Member that went by Revvo. I had known Revvo from a strip club discussion / review site and actually told him about this site. Those of us who have been here a good while may remember Revvo has being one of the more prolific and successful fishers of babies on here. I think he traveled regularly and had babies in every port so to speak. Then one day, he just stopped posting so I can only assumed that he got busted by the SO, even with all his precautions. If you have a SO with whom you wish to stay, this activity is definitely not for the faint of heart.