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[QUOTE=BigTigger;1741654]Hollywood has inspired me. So let me see, maybe I'm underestimating the fun I'm having.[/QUOTE]Thanks. After a slightly rocky start I appreciate being a trusted member of this thread. And all those unattractive girls. You know, the spinners with the small boobs and tiny butts. Just send them over here.
Met a moderately attractive (with a nice body) white MILF on SD4ME for dinner. She refused any cash payment saying that would be prostitution. $.7 for the dinner. We then went for a romantic walk in the park which led to a park bench where we spent the next hour groping like teenagers by the light of the moon. She suggested her coming to my place for the second date for a sleepover.
She is not looking for any romantic entanglements. Only a guy that can help get her over her proclaimed shyness. Like when I was rubbing her pussy she wouldn't let me look into her eyes and kept forcing me to makeout instead. A common theme I have seen over the years is younger girls looking to gain sexual experience (hence the older guy selection). Even though I regularly date much younger girls, she said I was the oldest guy she had ever dated.
Not totally my type physically, but she had a sweet personality and was very interested in persuing her sex fantasies and desires. It's our job to help these girls achieve their highest possible sexual potential. They should actually be paying us.
Smokarz,
I am curious about this myself. I told the story of two friends of mine recently divorced and killing the pussy. They are in their early 40's not good looking in fact one could be considered kinda homely. Good jobs but not money by any means. Both have good personalities. And can hold a conversation. But they got on these dating sites and were just fucking these women left and right. Even up to doing two a day!
Here I am working my ass off. Paying lots of money and trying to coax these babies out of their shyness or whatever they have. Dealing with god knows what kind of emotional trauma. And to top it off. I make three times as much money as these guys. Have many more assets, and I am even better looking than them. (at the risk of sounding conceited, I am just trying to put into perspective). These guys have told me that if I was single I would be "slaying the pussy out there". Their words not mine.
What the fuck is wrong with this picture?
Now the latest story. I have another friend better looking guy, makes good money. I would consider his personality ok, a little goofy. Not a player by any means. He is going through a bad divorce and goes to the bar about twice a week to sit there and watch the game or talk to the bartender. In the span of two months he has gotten laid about 10 times. And he is not even trying! The women are coming up to him and he is getting hot women. I have seen the pictures! 27, 31, 39, 40ish. All white all good looking. Some are telling him to just call when he wants to fuck. And costs him nothing. With a few exceptions not even buying them dinner!
This is fucking frustrating. He was told by a friend who is a mid forties divorced woman. That if you are normal to good looking and have a good job in this age range. You have a 10 to 1 advantage with the women. Essentially you are the hot commodity.
I just can't help but think. I am going about this all wrong. Too much work, too much money. And for something I could get for free and easy?
What do you guys think?
Revvo
PS: I met this really cute tall 32YO white, brunette MILF, going through a divorce. I met her through a separate social encounter. I have her number. I think I am going to call her today and see if she wants to go and get a drink one night. Lets see what happens.
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1740533]Ok, not sure this is appropriate on this thread.
But have anyone tried fb dating? I just signed up for Zoosk within the FB environment.
This could potentially be a goldmine for digging up nubile / inexperienced young SBs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1741818]Met a moderately attractive (with a nice body) white MILF on SD4ME for dinner. She refused any cash payment saying that would be prostitution. $.7 for the dinner. We then went for a romantic walk in the park which led to a park bench where we spent the next hour groping like teenagers by the light of the moon. She suggested her coming to my place for the second date for a sleepover.
She is not looking for any romantic entanglements. Only a guy that can help get her over her proclaimed shyness. Like when I was rubbing her pussy she wouldn't let me look into her eyes and kept forcing me to makeout instead. A common theme I have seen over the years is younger girls looking to gain sexual experience (hence the older guy selection). Even though I regularly date much younger girls, she said I was the oldest guy she had ever dated.
Not totally my type physically, but she had a sweet personality and was very interested in persuing her sex fantasies and desires. It's our job to help these girls achieve their highest possible sexual potential. They should actually be paying us.[/QUOTE]Your approach is similar to what I like to do. Variety is the objective. All ages, sizes and shapes are welcome because the attitude is the key. The chase and the game should be half the fun. Groping in the park like teenagers with a plan to pursue her sex fantasies and desires? I love it!
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1741654]Hollywood has inspired me. So let me see, maybe I'm underestimating the fun I'm having.
NSA / Bootycall Group.
(Maryland)
- Thick 28 year old AA, with own place, career, etc. $200 per month. Met on SA Seeing her 2 to 3 times a month. #FreakyDentalAssitant.
- Thick big body AA 37 year old (H-Boobs. Big shapely butt. Almost no fat on her at all). Met on AM, meeting once a month. No cost #MsBigBody.
(Virginia)
-MsOxyMoron. $400 per month, seeing her once a week. I'm still paying for hotels, but found a 3 star for $88
-FreakyLatina. Thick Latina, met on AM. We meet Once a month. No cost.
Potential Girlfriend Group (agreed gift amounts)
MsSuccessful. We stopped seeing each other. She's married and her situation just changed too much for us to be a good fit. (no cost)
Druggie College SB. Spinner, with great face, we are just not a good match. ($700 per month)
-South Carolina 24 Year AA, nice legs, big boobs, little extra around the waist. She's moving here in the fall. She will have her own place and be a full time student. We are meeting in a few weeks. ($750 per month)
-Baltimore 21 year old AA college cutie. Just started emailing, have not met yet.
-DC 21 year old AA, works and goes to school in accounting field. Only exchanging emails so far.
Long Distance Group.
-Atlanta Big Butt friend. Was meeting once a month, now once every 2 months. Cover cost of expenses and $200 cash spending money when she's here.
-Alabama friend. 5'11, big boobs, runner. Met on dating site many years back. I see her once every 3 to 4 months. Expenses only.
-California White Thick 4'11, big boobs and big butt. We've not met, but she's ready to cum visit. Expenses only.
-Delaware 5'7 AA with not butt but big boobs. We were meeting once a month, but now it's very sporadic. $60-100 when we meet.
-Delaware 5'4 AA with big butt and big boobs. She has a butt that's even distracting to women. We were meeting once a month, but now it's very sporadic. $60-100 when we meet.
-Tidewater area Virgina, very pretty AA. 44 years old, nice boobs. Absolutely flat as ironing board butt. Meeting once a month. Met on AM. No cost.
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Currently on the hook for $400 with MsOxyMoron, plus $360 in hotel bills.
Everyone else is pay as you go or we have not sealed the deal on the arrangement yet.
I have a big boobs or big butt fetish. Got to have one or the other or be really cute / pretty.
I'm trying to stay under a total monthly budget of $1500.
BigTigg.
"I'd rather have a 6 three times than a 10 once"[/QUOTE]Total agreement here. Three times six beats 10 times one.
I don't have the time or the energy to have the SB stable you or HollywoodGuy or Revvo and others keep but I have a small SB collection which is constantly evolving:
19 year old chubby freak: cute nympho who loves to be tied up, spanked and squirted for hours; meals and a show every once in a while.
45 year old MILF; newly divorced and feeling her oats; .5$ every now and then.
Pair of young lesbians (or so they say) .19 and 20: get a kick out of occasional cock; meals and $ for both for hours of fun.
19 year old; 6 rating overall with a 10 bubble ass; screamer and sucks like a Hoover; shopping is her thing.
When I grow up maybe I will have a real collection like you.
[QUOTE=Revvo; 1741968]Smokarz,
(That) if you are normal to good looking and have a good job in this age range. You have a 10 to 1 advantage with the women. Essentially you are the hot commodity.
I just can't help but think. I am going about this all wrong. Too much work, too much money. And for something I could get for free and easy?
What do you guys think?
Revvo[/QUOTE]I feel your pain Rev! I too am a decent looking young looking senior citizen and sat in bars with no hot babes approaching me, so I don't know what these guys have that I don't. Perhaps youth, but therein lies the problem. I have a desire for 20 somethings and am not interested in older girls (over 35ish) and the only access to this age group for me is Dough Re Mi. I could slay 40 somethings all day long but not my style.
Now there is one exception to this on the regular dating sites. And that involves girls who want to land a husband who has money and social status. For us mongers who don't want marriage or are already married we need girls to bang who are either attracted to us or our money. Some of you guys who are in your 30s and early 40s probably can attract the youngsters with your own charm.
So I have to continue to put the money out there and catch what I can.
Not that they are not hard to find, but if anyone is interested in a 40 something curvy-thick white sb, I have a lead on SA. She is easy to talk to, ok looking, big boobs, a little extra weight on her, willing to drive and willing to go to FC on the first date. I had a date scheduled, but I have too much going on to take on this adventure.
BigTigg
I guess it's time for to do another update as well. After having my SB stable pretty much burn to the ground around the beginning of the year, from the ashes my stable has reemerged younger, tighter, and cheaper.
Innocence SB now known as Girlfriend SB
She's the young 18 year-old AA girl (8/8/10) I met a little over a month ago. She had a genuine attraction to me and said it wasn't all about the money from the start. We've might twice in the FC and so far the romps have been smoking. We text every day throughout the day. I've given her a total 140 since we've been together. Insanely low CPO. Just the other day she said her feelings were getting stronger for me and that she wanted to officially be boyfriend / girlfriend. I agreed. Not only will this keep my costs down with her but I genuinely enjoy the attention she gives me. I may love her at somepoint but I don't ever see myself leaving my wife for her, so I'm not worried about the usual "E-invovelment" hazards. But it's just a great feeling having a nubile 18 year-old just infatuated with you, great for the ego and libido. Due to distance, I only see her 1-2 times a month. So as much as I like her, I still needed some additional SBs to fill in the gaps.
Punk SB.
Another young 18 year-old half asian / half latina (8/6/9) SB I met in the last week or so and this one is closer to home. She also still lives at home, so her allowance needs are extremely modest. She was over the moon with the 100 I offered her. She's completely new and I nabbed her off SDFM from the new sign-ups and then quickly had her close her profile. We met last week and after the M&G we went straight to the FC because both of us had a pretty tight schedule. We were pressed for time but I found a notel near her house and then quickly did the deed. I could tell she was new to everything, but when it came down to the bedroom activity she was relaxed and let loose pretty easily. She's not highly skilled yet but it's clear she's a fast and willing learner. We haven't established a routine yet, but I'm budgeting two meetups a month with her. She texted me the day after our romp, so she was still on board. I don't text her nearly the same amount as my Girlfriend, but we usually exchange maybe 3-4 texts per day.
Geek SB.
She's a 20 year-old half asian / half white (7/7/8). She's a geeky full-time college student. Technically she's still a pot since we haven't done the deed yet. She's also new to the SB world but had a friend who was a professional SB advise her. Because of this, she was in GPS territory initially. But I talked her off the edge and it also helped that we have quite a few common interests. We did the pre-negotiations and settled on 450-500 per month. She has her own apartment, so she would be able to host (though she does have a roommate). She doesn't live around the corner, but she's still in the local area. If I could see her at least 3 times a month, then it will be a pretty good CPO. So we did a M&G this weekend and I thought it went well but you can never really tell sometimes. But she texted me immediately afterward basically continuing the conversation we had over lunch. No specific FC plans yet, but she's also texted me everyday since we met (exchange about 6-8 texts a day). So she's clearly still interested. But I'm going to wait for her to initiate the FC date. I want her to want it and honestly my plate is a bit full at the moment, so I can be patient.
Backseat SB.
She's back! I've been seeing this 20-year old latina SB (7/8/6) off and on for about a year. She's a pure booty call SB. We had a bit of a falling out about 2 months ago but I reached out to her recently and was extremely eager to start back up again. It was almost like she had been waiting on me to contact her again. We don't really connect at all personality-wise, but she's local, spinner, amazing tits, and knows how to grind in the backseat of a car. I thought she might go UTR, but she never did. I found out I was basically the only guy she was doing P2P with. So even though we don't really click, I still like having a hot young latina who's exclusive to me (in the sugar world) and basically on call.
Gone out to Pasture.
I let a couple SBs go. The 18-year-old stripper SB still texts me every 3-4 days, but she's somewhat unreliable. Body-wise she's probably a 9/10 (face / body) , but I can see the stripper lifestyle taking over before my eyes. On her Facebook page, she's showing off the weed she's about to smoke and etc. I'm not a prude or anything but I'm extremely cautious of SBs who use drugs. Unpredictable and unreliable. There's enough clean SBs out there that I can avoid the ones that have "habits". The Escort SB is also in the wind. I didn't strike it when it was hot and honestly I have better options that I didn't really need her in my stable anymore, so I stopped pursuing her.
So I now have 3-4 SBs in rotation all under the age of 21. My Girlfriend is my favorite and the other 3 girls will fill in the gaps. All of them are pretty much on a twice a month schedule.
On a final note, some people may be surprised with the amount of texting I do. But I like it doing it because a) You can tell if she's a Pro or not, regular girls like to text, pros often just want to get straight to the point be) It keeps my costs down. Some girls like to be paid in "attention" as well as cash. If you take the time to talk with them for a bit, they are more likely not to see you purely as an ATM machine. See) As mentioned before, it feeds my ego. The personal touch is why I see SBs over pros. It's not just about costs, I like knowing that I'm talking to a real human being and not a glorified blowup doll. So text is worth the time investment for me.
[QUOTE=John G Smith; 1743025]I.
On a final note, some people may be surprised with the amount of texting I do. But I like it doing it because a) You can tell if she's a Pro or not, regular girls like to text, pros often just want to get straight to the point be) It keeps my costs down. Some girls like to be paid in "attention" as well as cash. If you take the time to talk with them for a bit, they are more likely not to see you purely as an ATM machine. See) As mentioned before, it feeds my ego. The personal touch is why I see SBs over pros. It's not just about costs, I like knowing that I'm talking to a real human being and not a glorified blowup doll. So text is worth the time investment for me.[/QUOTE]100% Agree, this has been one of my force multipliers. It is why I upgraded my phone to a virgin mobile android, $50 per month unlimited. I have found that I am preferring the younger ones now too.
BigTigg
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1743049]100% Agree, this has been one of my force multipliers. It is why I upgraded my phone to a virgin mobile android, $50 per month unlimited. I have found that I am preferring the younger ones now too.
BigTigg[/QUOTE]As I have said before, in order to talk to the youg ones, and successfully bed them, you need to speak their language. I text now almost exclusively, once initial contact has been made and I've got their email and cell info. It increases the gravitational pull on the panties by a huge degree, getting them on the floor much faster than before I started texting. I now have to guard against all the "text-ese" creeping into my regular business correspondence.
Just got back from a lunch m&g with a hot mom who is good to go as soon as we can arrange a meeting in the FC. She is quirky, funny, artistic and smart, just how I like them, but at 32 is at the top end of my preferred age bracket. Something about her is extremely appealing, though. We spent about 15 minutes making out in my car before she got back on the train, and it definitely promised some very enjoyable things to come, so I am feeling happy. Got several flirty texts on the drive back to the office, which I also like.
Second date planned with an art student tomorrow, who frankly is out of my league in terms of attractiveness, but I think there are some daddy issues there, so I'm just going to roll with it. The fact that she is studying something that I do as part of my job is helpful. If I can land her in the next few weeks I'll be thrilled. She lives alone, so the scheduling will be much easier.
Thursday I have a "lunch" set with a 6' redhead who I spent the night with last week when my SO was out of town. She is absolutely gymnastic in bed, and, again, I find her immensely appealing. Scottie was at his most agile and alert all evening long, so I'm sure she is expecting a repeat performance, and I will do my best to give it to her.
It's great to see how active we all have become, and to see the posts of some new members of the club. Keep up the good work, gentlemen,
Scott
[QUOTE=Revvo; 1741968]Smokarz,
I am curious about this myself. I told the story of two friends of mine recently divorced and killing the pussy. They are in their early 40's not good looking in fact one could be considered kinda homely. Good jobs but not money by any means. Both have good personalities. And can hold a conversation. But they got on these dating sites and were just fucking these women left and right. Even up to doing two a day!
Here I am working my ass off. Paying lots of money and trying to coax these babies out of their shyness or whatever they have. Dealing with god knows what kind of emotional trauma. And to top it off. I make three times as much money as these guys. Have many more assets, and I am even better looking than them. (at the risk of sounding conceited, I am just trying to put into perspective). These guys have told me that if I was single I would be "slaying the pussy out there". Their words not mine.
What the fuck is wrong with this picture?
Now the latest story. I have another friend better looking guy, makes good money. I would consider his personality ok, a little goofy. Not a player by any means. He is going through a bad divorce and goes to the bar about twice a week to sit there and watch the game or talk to the bartender. In the span of two months he has gotten laid about 10 times. And he is not even trying! The women are coming up to him and he is getting hot women. I have seen the pictures! 27, 31, 39, 40ish. All white all good looking. Some are telling him to just call when he wants to fuck. And costs him nothing. With a few exceptions not even buying them dinner!
This is fucking frustrating. He was told by a friend who is a mid forties divorced woman. That if you are normal to good looking and have a good job in this age range. You have a 10 to 1 advantage with the women. Essentially you are the hot commodity.
I just can't help but think. I am going about this all wrong. Too much work, too much money. And for something I could get for free and easy?
What do you guys think?
Revvo.
PS: I met this really cute tall 32YO white, brunette MILF, going through a divorce. I met her through a separate social encounter. I have her number. I think I am going to call her today and see if she wants to go and get a drink one night. Lets see what happens.[/QUOTE]I don't know about you. But I LOVE going online and picking the exact type of face / body I am looking for out of HUNDREDs / maybe thousands of profiles. In a bar you get to pick from how many girls? I am very picky, hate pickup lines, and get the kind out girls that never go for them. So it's a different type of girl. Also I will not date a girl that drinks more than one drink, not likely in a bar.
Hollywood,
I see your point. It is like a candy store and you get to pick your flavor. And I have heard other comments on here about about how you do not get the drama with the SB. That you get with a civvie.
May be true. It just seems like there is so much work to this? Maybe I am still learning. I only started in February. I guess I need to get some more experience. I keep hearing about how my demographic has an advantage with these civvie women. The ones over 35. I actually prefer a woman that is a little more I. Touch with her own body. May give it a try.
By the way I got a M&G with a very hot AA young 20 yo. 8/10/7 this afternoon. We will see how it goes. She may have contracted a case of GPS. We will see how bad. I am also meeting my main Asian SB tomorrow for the day. And a new white 21 yo 7/9/7 POT on Monday for a m&g.
More reports to follow.
Revvo
[url]http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/henry-t-mudd/recent/2[/url]
I remember reading about this guy in the local paper and thinking. This is the way to do it. This was about 20 years ago and the seed was planted.
He had 7 SB's that he had ensconced each in their own home and saw each one once a week. He is my role model.
He is a man to admire for 1) living the American dream (inheritance) and 2) slaying the pussy.
It is all about the Money.
" If you got the money you get the honey." If I had $10 s of millions I would have girls all over the place.like Bigg Tigg, Hollywood, Scotty. Geez! If you guys had those kind of bucks (and maybe you do) your dicks would scar from overuse.
[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1744471]He is a man to admire for 1) living the American dream (inheritance) and 2) slaying the pussy.
It is all about the Money.
" If you got the money you get the honey." If I had $10 s of millions I would have girls all over the place. Like Bigg Tigg, Hollywood, Scotty. Geez! If you guys had those kind of bucks (and maybe you do) your dicks would scar from overuse.[/QUOTE]The funny (or not so funny) thing is. When I had the big money I had 3 or 4 gold diggers KILLING me. Now that I am a normal middle income earner I have 3 exclusive women that ADORE me and give me the best sex ever (and 3 more part timers that treat me right). If I ever go back up to even half of what I used to make prior to this administrations business strangling regulations (which are never going to be rolled back) I would possibly up the monthly allowances, but nowhere near what they were and just have more affordable (maybe up to 7) babies.
And I cut my X wifes alimony by 70 percent.
I've read a lot of posts on here about guys getting emotionally involved and thought I would share my experience.
So. I met this girl on SA about a year ago on a biz trip, we kept seeing each other, initially it was $$$$ per overnight (she's mid-twenties, rocking bod, Ivy league grad etc) , but after two dates she told me she liked me and I didn't have to pay for it anymore. She moved to NY, we've kept seeing each other fairly often, traveling together (she wants an exclusive bf relationship. And I'm good with free BBFS), all good.
Except I know she is still banging some of you guys (I may have seen some texts of hers.) Which is fine. It is what it is. Just a word to the wise, don't let yourself get caught up emotionally with these women or you will get burned. Just remember what you are dealing with. My $.02.
The weird part is sitting across the table from a hot, smart girl, and knowing that she is flat out lying to you. Adds an interesting emotional twist to the bedroom sessions.
[QUOTE=HighCotton; 1745122]I've read a lot of posts on here about guys getting emotionally involved and thought I would share my experience.
The weird part is sitting across the table from a hot, smart girl, and knowing that she is flat out lying to you. Adds an interesting emotional twist to the bedroom sessions.[/QUOTE]I am the poster boy for E Involvement and I'm trying to get past that. After the breakup with my ATF I discovered that she was working 3 full time SDs each of us thinking that we were the one and only. It was disquieting to think that we were all swapping spit and sperm and who knows what other STDs in the mix. I am envious of those of you (Commander) who don't seem to care that your SB is banging others. It is an easier way to be.
The thing is , They can't help themselves. If you put milk in front of a kitten they will drink . These needy Babies ,whether desperate or not , can easily gather serious coin from multiple Daddies who are throwing money at them . Many of us ( SDs ) act pretty desperate to bag a babe and offer crazy $ amounts to do a simple task like sleep with us ,which comes naturally to them . Morality is but a fleeting thought in their consciousness .
A hooker friend charges $1600/day to travel with a John to Vegas for example plus expenses . A SB will go for the trip only and a few hundred $ spending cash . How can they resisit temptation like this ? It's like shooting fish in a barrel .
Have Money Will travel
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1744338][url]http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/henry-t-mudd/recent/2[/url]
I remember reading about this guy in the local paper and thinking. This is the way to do it. This was about 20 years ago and the seed was planted.
He had 7 SB's that he had ensconced each in their own home and saw each one once a week.
He is my role model.[/QUOTE]Way too easy when you have millions of dollars at your disposal. Most of us work with a monthly budget of $1-$3k.
[QUOTE=Hernando; 1745414]I am the poster boy for E Involvement and I'm trying to get past that. After the breakup with my ATF I discovered that she was working 3 full time SDs each of us thinking that we were the one and only. It was disquieting to think that we were all swapping spit and sperm and who knows what other STDs in the mix. I am envious of those of you (Commander) who don't seem to care that your SB is banging others. It is an easier way to be.
The thing is, They can't help themselves. If you put milk in front of a kitten they will drink. These needy Babies, whether desperate or not, can easily gather serious coin from multiple Daddies who are throwing money at them. Many of us (SDs) act pretty desperate to bag a babe and offer crazy $ amounts to do a simple task like sleep with us, which comes naturally to them. Morality is but a fleeting thought in their consciousness.
A hooker friend charges $1600 / day to travel with a John to Vegas for example plus expenses. A SB will go for the trip only and a few hundred $ spending cash. How can they resisit temptation like this? It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Have Money Will travel[/QUOTE]Great analogy, kittens and milk. I think, like most of us, they can completely compartmentalize sex. Not a bad thing. I actually busted her about one guy, she swears she will never see him again. But I know at 3k per night she will see him again. And I saw his email address. Hmmm. That could be fun. But I won't go there.
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;1745429]Way too easy when you have millions of dollars at your disposal. Most of us work with a monthly budget of $1-$3k.[/QUOTE]My budget is the same. But it's nice to dream.
[QUOTE=HighCotton; 1745122]I've read a lot of posts on here about guys getting emotionally involved and thought I would share my experience.
So. I met this girl on SA about a year ago on a biz trip, we kept seeing each other, initially it was $$$$ per overnight (she's mid-twenties, rocking bod, Ivy league grad etc) , but after two dates she told me she liked me and I didn't have to pay for it anymore. She moved to NY, we've kept seeing each other fairly often, traveling together (she wants an exclusive bf relationship. And I'm good with free BBFS) , all good.
Except I know she is still banging some of you guys (I may have seen some texts of hers.) Which is fine. It is what it is. Just a word to the wise, don't let yourself get caught up emotionally with these women or you will get burned. Just remember what you are dealing with. My $.02.
The weird part is sitting across the table from a hot, smart girl, and knowing that she is flat out lying to you. Adds an interesting emotional twist to the bedroom sessions.[/QUOTE]With the type of girl you are describing I can see with all her options why she does what she does. Ivy league Grad. I try to put my focus on lower income exotic girls that don't have the needs that a more financially upscale girl would. I used to date those girls but came to the conclusion they weren't any better looking or better in bed. They may be more educated but I am not looking for esoteric conversations about Chaos Theory or philosophical discourse on Deconstruction. I definitely have to do some fixing up (hair, nails, clothes) when I meet a new girl, but I am cool with that. I like diamonds in the rough. Also their maintenance level after that is a lot less as well. Overall it seems to cost a lot less to get a much greater level of appreciation.
As far as e-volvement. All my regulars want to marry me. Thats the way I like it.
Don't know if you guys saw this, almost too weird to be true. SB gets Mexican boyfriend, and end up duck taping and robbing the SD in the apartment he provided her.
[url]http://www.indystar.com/article/20130424/NEWS02/304240102?odyssey=mod[/url]|mostcom
[QUOTE=Buster Hymen; 1745646]Don't know if you guys saw this, almost too weird to be true. SB gets Mexican boyfriend, and end up duck taping and robbing the SD in the apartment he provided her.
[url]http://www.indystar.com/article/20130424/NEWS02/304240102?odyssey=mod[/url]
|mostcom[/QUOTE]And still, the poor bastard thinks she didn't have anything to do with it!
It is a wonder, is it not?
Scott
A little common sense to ferret out the scammers is a must! I met a girl the other day from AM who said she was an USC student.
What raised my alarm bells was when I asked her if she drove and she said "you can come over her" I asked where is here,
She said 55th and Western!
Now that area doesn't make me feel warm and tingly. She was ready to give up the goods though, come and get it. She said she need 2 books. 1 was $80, the other was $120.
As she seemed to have more professional ways, than I wanted I passed. She then texts me to say she needed $65 by 7:30pm (it was 7:15pm) to pay her rent or she would be evicted as she had been robbed.
She must have been scamming others on AM as they erased her email to me and restored the credits back to my account.
On the bright side the next day a girl I 1st talked to on SD4ME 3 months ago, called after I saw her on POF (plenty of fish,) and wanted to come over for a drink. As she works I let her come by for a drink, after half the drink she wanted a repeat of the hug she gave me coming in, and while that was going on she started grabbing my dick and gave some free head.
No money was discussed.
On the down side, she texts me 2 days later saying she needed gas money, as I'm not intending to see her again (she didn't match her photo recent enough) I have not offered her the gas money.
[QUOTE=Buster Hymen; 1745646]Don't know if you guys saw this, almost too weird to be true. SB gets Mexican boyfriend, and end up duck taping and robbing the SD in the apartment he provided her.
[url]http://www.indystar.com/article/20130424/NEWS02/304240102?odyssey=mod[/url]
|mostcom[/QUOTE]The moral of the story. Don't date average white girls.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1746411]The moral of the story. Don't date average white girls.[/QUOTE]This says more about character than some generic average-ness. I have met many average white girls that are quite upstanding in character. It better said to not date girls of questionable character regardless of race. My 2 cents.
[QUOTE=HappyHunter44;1746453]This says more about character than some generic average-ness. I have met many average white girls that are quite upstanding in character. It better said to not date girls of questionable character regardless of race. My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Was a joke. Because I date black and asian 90% of the time. Part of the reason is the most drama I have had is from white girls.
I had a fun night with a 23 year old blonde Tilted Kilt waitress that I met off SA last night. She stayed the night and I had 3 pops for $200 and I was very pleased with that. She gave great head. I had to think of cold showers and baseball to keep from cumming after 30 secs. I will definitely be seeing hear again in a couple weeks. She said she'll bring her Tilted Kilt outfit next time.
[QUOTE=Donwhite;1746545]I had a fun night with a 23 year old blonde Tilted Kilt waitress that I met off SA last night. She stayed the night and I had 3 pops for $200 and I was very pleased with that. She gave great head. I had to think of cold showers and baseball to keep from cumming after 30 secs. I will definitely be seeing hear again in a couple weeks. She said she'll bring her Tilted Kilt outfit next time.[/QUOTE]I love those outfits.
[QUOTE=BigTigger;1746728]I love those outfits.[/QUOTE]There's just something hot about schoolgirl esque outfits with plaid skirts.
[QUOTE=Buster Hymen; 1745646]Don't know if you guys saw this, almost too weird to be true. SB gets Mexican boyfriend, and end up duck taping and robbing the SD in the apartment he provided her.
[url]http://www.indystar.com/article/20130424/NEWS02/304240102?odyssey=mod[/url]
|mostcom[/QUOTE]He was a former low-level officeholder so the TV was bound to interview her. I thought she came off looking pretty normal and he came off looking needy. Boy that hurts.
Clinton looked stupid. He never looked needy.
Nobody likes needy.
I wonder if he is stuck on the apartment lease.
With all this talk of millionaire sugar daddies, I wanted to ask a forum wide question. If you were to come into a large sum of money, millions, would you run your game and approach differently, if so how? Some of you guys would probably just get divorced and move to Sugar Baby Island. LOL!
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1745594]With the type of girl you are describing I can see with all her options why she does what she does. Ivy league Grad. I try to put my focus on lower income exotic girls that don't have the needs that a more financially upscale girl would. I used to date those girls but came to the conclusion they weren't any better looking or better in bed. They may be more educated but I am not looking for esoteric conversations about Chaos Theory or philosophical discourse on Deconstruction. I definitely have to do some fixing up (hair, nails, clothes) when I meet a new girl, but I am cool with that. I like diamonds in the rough. Also their maintenance level after that is a lot less as well. Overall it seems to cost a lot less to get a much greater level of appreciation.
As far as e-volvement. All my regulars want to marry me. Thats the way I like it.[/QUOTE]But I love chaos theory.
Great point, most of the GPS girls I have run across have been "hi-brow" types. Had one recently that worked a $12 an hour job who was thrilled to session with me for 60 bucks. So I think you are on to something!
Added a keeper today 19, Hispanic, Petite, Spinner, Gymnast, College student, Very intelligent. Likes the adventure and mind games as much or more than the money. $ is satisfactory. Loves sex and can twist up like a pretzel. Makes for unusual positions. Likes to explore and wants to try role playing especially BDSM games. Likes girls too and wants to include a friend some time.
[QUOTE=TreasureHunter;1747687]With all this talk of millionaire sugar daddies, I wanted to ask a forum wide question. If you were to come into a large sum of money, millions, would you run your game and approach differently, if so how? Some of you guys would probably just get divorced and move to Sugar Baby Island. LOL![/QUOTE]I love these mind games!"What ifs "
I would move to SB Island, Yep! Absolutely true. I would divorce and have 2 or 3 regulars 1 or 2 days / week each, then intersperse a rotation of newbies in and out, in and out Sorry, I got carried away with the thought of it all.
" one recently that worked a $12 an hour job who was thrilled to session with me for 60 bucks." and " $ is satisfactory"
Where do you guys find these cheap dates? I can't get these girls in central Va to give it up for less than $250. I figure one of three things is happening
1) My taste is too high for bottom fishing.
2) I am not as hot as you guys.
3) this area is more competitive and is driving the prices up.
It is probably a combo of the three.
[QUOTE=TreasureHunter;1747687]With all this talk of millionaire sugar daddies, I wanted to ask a forum wide question. If you were to come into a large sum of money, millions, would you run your game and approach differently, if so how? Some of you guys would probably just get divorced and move to Sugar Baby Island. LOL![/QUOTE]Being that I am already the governor of my own SB Island, I guess I would to try my fare out to sea and find some other SB packed retreats
[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1748159]I love these mind games!"What ifs "
I would move to SB Island, Yep! Absolutely true. I would divorce and have 2 or 3 regulars 1 or 2 days / week each, then intersperse a rotation of newbies in and out, in and out Sorry, I got carried away with the thought of it all.
" one recently that worked a $12 an hour job who was thrilled to session with me for 60 bucks." and " $ is satisfactory"
Where do you guys find these cheap dates? I can't get these girls in central Va to give it up for less than $250. I figure one of three things is happening
1) My taste is too high for bottom fishing.
2) I am not as hot as you guys.
3) this area is more competitive and is driving the prices up.
It is probably a combo of the three.[/QUOTE]I am not "hot" by any stretch of the imagination but I am not ugly either and women do like a nice personality and I have that. SBs who want a lot are like SWs who want a lot or even gfs or wives who want a lot. They just do because that's the way they are. I avoid them. Money is all they want and IMHO if the attitude isn't accommodating then no amount of money will produce it. I have had hot young SWs for an enthusiastic and very enjoyable BJ for 20 bucks. I have enjoyed SBs for hours at a time for 50. $ is my standard donation for a SB date sometimes also including a meal or a little shopping. There is some relationship of money demanded to the way a girl looks but it is not always just about that either. Girls willing to meet my monetary guidelines had the right attitude to start with or were so new to it that they weren't yet jaded enough to think their mouths and pussy were made of gold. Either way is fine with me but nothing substitutes for the right attitude. This is definitely about money but it is about more than money too.
As has been said many times. You just do not know what is going to happen in the bowl. One of the things that keeps it interesting.
So my ATF that left me a couple of weeks ago is gone still. Not the best experience I have ever been through. Because of how great she was in all aspects made her leaving very difficult. She did tell me that she wants to stay in touch and we could do stuff later. But I am not so sure. I may contact her I may not. But I am definitely not going to do anything right away.
REVVOATF: Still going strong. She is as sweet as can be. Does just anything I want her to do. Best blow jobs, enthusiastic and fun to be with. Not like my former ATF but still pretty damn good. On our last visit we spent 5 hours together fucking, sucking, playing napping, went out and got ice cream. It was great. She really seems to be attracted to older men. And I don't know if it is daddy issues since she has a father. Anyway she is tiny and when doing the deep penetration I can feel my dick actually bottoming out. And I am not that big. Just normal size. Never experienced that before.
REVVOPOT1: Gone. Not sure what happened she was good to go with the FC meet. Texted me twice she was ready to visit the FC. I texted her back with time and date, and plans. And poof just like that she vanished. Called her twice over three days. Even sent her an email and nothing. I think she may have gotten cold feet. She is very inexperienced 20yo latina. Cannot say. Oh well on to others. Certainly not as disappointed as I was when my ATF left.
REVVOPOT2: Another young one. 22YO White, cute and sexy and a little cocky. 7/9/8. As usual this rating may change after the meet and greet and then again after she gets fucked. (I can tell you my former ATF went way up on all scales after some quality time tearing that shit up.) But she seems to be fun. A little harder to nail down. She is a server and is ready to do a M&G on Monday at 1pm. We have had a few fun and flirty texts a little light but definitely got the flirt on. She is coming around slowly. She has a sexy body, and a cute smile and attitude. This one needs to be worked slowly.
REVVOPOT3:22 YO AA, thick and juicy. She is a model also. And she has the booty to prove it. Let me tell you she has one power ass. I have seen her work, magazines and music videos, and it is pretty good. This one is a handful. She is sexy attractive, and a killer body, give her a. 7/10/9. I have met her and she is good to go. She likes the $100 per visit thing. Which is a big plus when you are doing multiples. She is also in nursing school. Texts me every day and wants to talk about all the things we are going to do. I am giving her a little. But I do not want to go too far. I found this can spook them before the FC. We are scheduled to get down to it on Tuesday. Man I am going to have to wax that ass good.
REVVOPOT4:22 YO White blond haired green eyed. A little different but very cute. Early to tell. But 8/9/9 at this time. She wants to meet and looks like she is a hairdresser. Kind of on the mellow side conversing we are still trying to get a date and time. But I am shooting for next Wednesday. This one is not 100% there so I will have to muster my skills to get her to the FC. Very much an amateur dipping her toe in the water. We shall see.
Others: There have been at least four others that I have either not contacted or decided to let go. For a couple of reasons. They were a little less good looking. 5 thru 7 max, and they seemed to be wandering into NANDO1 territory. Plus I only have so much time and money. I am a bit picky, I like attractive women. I think this is why I have a harder time than some.
Traveling with the babies. So I have talked with my current ATF about going on a trip soon. I am going to be out of town on business and have her come in at the end of the week and stay with me for a couple of days extra. Any advice on doing this. I know Subcommander and maybe FSCOTT have been down this road. Security concerns? Things to not do?
Thanks guys.
Lets be careful out there.
Revvo
I see you guys reporting regularly I have been more into professionals would like to try this see if I am successful, have membership not paid in sb. Com site all I get is older, can I get some guidance need some college girls with out going bankrupt.
S2568
[QUOTE=S2568; 1748681]can I get some guidance need some college girls with out going bankrupt.
S2568[/QUOTE]College girls go to the head of the class (pun intended ). They aren't everyone's cup of tea but they generally are smart, cute, and unspoiled yet if you catch them before their pussies get plated with gold and silver. SA dot com seems to be the best consistent source of College SBs. They are marked and certified as such. My ATF ATF came from SBFM though so you never know where you will luck into a SB with the right attitude for you.
I am currently seeing my new ATF who is an elderly upper 20s. The only thing I see different from the 18 to 22 yr old group is a more mature way of looking at things. They look just as hot and young. There is less drama since she has her own place and there is no issue with flea bag notels. She uses my $$ for clothes, and she likes to dress up and go out to dinner.
I recommend 25 to 30 age group, never married, no children, gainfully employed, owns a car, has her own place / no room mates, and professes to need money for the "extras" in life rather than the necessities. Most of my SBs are not sex maniacs, which suits me fine. I like teaching them what I like and I don't want her to be trolling the sites to get her daily bang when I am not available for her. Nymphos are fun but they need more than most guys can give them. In fact, these girls I like are usually size 0 to 2 and all are tight. I have to be very slow and gentle to start or I seem to hurt them.