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[QUOTE=Charlsalanhead; 1143496]Don't feel bad, I've been hitting up some social networking hook up sites and most won't give a married guy a second look. Kinda does hurt! Suck it up and try another. There are a bunch that are olny looking for black men too. So whats the beef?

I don't do fat chicks! [/QUOTE]No beef with her in particular at all. Just kinda tired of hearing it. Most of these ladies who put those stipulations in their ads probably couldn't even tell the difference between an African, an African American, or someone from the islands (hell you could probably lump Hispanics and Indians in there too). Golfcart mentioned below that going between the sheets is as personal as it gets, but the thing is that they're not differentiating based on compatibility, attractiveness, weight, hygiene or anything else besides race. So when you put a, by all accounts, handsome, clean-cut black / Hispanic / Indian guy that's well off enough to see this so-called high-end escort multiple times next to an overweight, under educated white guy with a sweating problem that will most likely be a one-time deal and the lady says that she won't see the first guy but will see the latter, it kind of irks you after a while (and please note guys that I'm definitely not saying that most or any of you mongers fit this description; just using it for illustrative purposes).

I typically give the low-end ladies a pass on this because they do next to no screening and one guy from a particular race can spook them (except of course if it's a white guy that's doing the robbing then everything goes on business as usual for some reason). But for the high-end ladies that require more info than most bank loans, I find it reprehensible and down right racist. Because the bottom line is that they're NOT attracted to all their clients from a particular race and with proper screening should have relative assurance of their safety from someone of any race. So, to me, all they're saying is "I don't like black people" which in this day and age just makes me stop and say "Really? They still make people like you?" And like I said before it just irks me.

Very well said. While it's true that getting naked with someone "is about as personal as it gets," these ladies have chosen to sell sex. And while they should definitely be treated with respect, and should definitely protect their own safety, whether or not they are attracted to the client is quite irrelevant. They're attracted to the money, after all.

Most of it is out and out racism; as you say, what it really means is "I don't like black people." These same girls would be annoyed to have a black doctor, a black accountant, or a black teacher in their kids' classroom.

(For the record, I'm white as could be, but seeing racial preferences / prohibitions on a girl's ad pisses me off just the same. I've never seen a girl who does that, and I never will.)

Dirty Dog's point about the age thing ("no men under 35") is a good one too, and that always annoyed me as well. Sadly, I myself am now north of 35 years old. But I did see a few girls back in my younger days who professed an age requirement. I simply honestly told them my age, and asked if they would see me, even though I didn't make their cutoff. A few said no, but most said yes.

[QUOTE=Bobbyj29; 1143944]No beef with her in particular at all. Just kinda tired of hearing it. Most of these ladies who put those stipulations in their ads probably couldn't even tell the difference between an African, an African American, or someone from the islands (hell you could probably lump Hispanics and Indians in there too). Golfcart mentioned below that going between the sheets is as personal as it gets, but the thing is that they're not differentiating based on compatibility, attractiveness, weight, hygiene or anything else besides race. So when you put a, by all accounts, handsome, clean-cut black / Hispanic / Indian guy that's well off enough to see this so-called high-end escort multiple times next to an overweight, under educated white guy with a sweating problem that will most likely be a one-time deal and the lady says that she won't see the first guy but will see the latter, it kind of irks you after a while (and please note guys that I'm definitely not saying that most or any of you mongers fit this description; just using it for illustrative purposes).

I typically give the low-end ladies a pass on this because they do next to no screening and one guy from a particular race can spook them (except of course if it's a white guy that's doing the robbing then everything goes on business as usual for some reason). But for the high-end ladies that require more info than most bank loans, I find it reprehensible and down right racist. Because the bottom line is that they're NOT attracted to all their clients from a particular race and with proper screening should have relative assurance of their safety from someone of any race. So, to me, all they're saying is "I don't like black people" which in this day and age just makes me stop and say "Really? They still make people like you?" And like I said before it just irks me. [/QUOTE]

Whether or not they are attracted to the client is quite irrelevant. They're attracted to the money, after all.

[QUOTE=Dirty Dog 1983;1143860]Don't forget us well educated white professionals under 35.[/QUOTE]I always lie and tell them I'm olfder. Worked buying beer why not pussy. These chicks know old guys can't hang more that a few miniutes. Why else do they say that. I bet many have had those 30 year olds cranked up on vodka and cialis and has an hour long hard on. That kind of date wears out a working woman. Now what really sucks is when they give your money back because you are hung like a donkey. That hurts deep!

And scored another home run on Be Naughty social site. 40 year old MILF in awsome shape. Killer ass flat tummy responsive tits and a face that belongs on TV. Second date is set up for Friday and this one should seal the deal for us.

Now If I could only bumb a viagra or cialas, I'd be golden. All she wants is to Fked the lights out of her. This will keep me out of the hobby for some time. Still will be looking.

I just recently put no African American on my ads because of the high volume of phone calls I was getting. When I asked them for references from other well reviewed providers they had none. Because of the scary situation here in Birmingham most providers aren't willing to take a chance unless someone can vouch for them. I had one guy yell at me why did he have to give me a reference? He's not applying for a job! I just told him to call someone else and hung up. Since there isn't a very good description of the guy who's robbing the providers or even his phone number to beware of. Just not seeing anyone from that guys race is all we can do to stay safe. After getting brutally beaten during a robbery, once is enough for me.

[QUOTE=Jasmine Smith;1144609]I just recently put no African American on my ads because of the high volume of phone calls I was getting. When I asked them for references from other well reviewed providers they had none. Because of the scary situation here in Birmingham most providers aren't willing to take a chance unless someone can vouch for them. I had one guy yell at me why did he have to give me a reference? He's not applying for a job! I just told him to call someone else and hung up. Since there isn't a very good description of the guy who's robbing the providers or even his phone number to beware of. Just not seeing anyone from that guys race is all we can do to stay safe. After getting brutally beaten during a robbery, once is enough for me.[/QUOTE]I really don't care about this issue either way, as there is some provider out there for everybody, black or white. But, is this what this forum has really been reduced to? Discussing race issues? I thought we were here to share our experiences about the hobby of mongering. Now, I do have an opinion on the issue, but I don't care to share it, becuase if we dig deep enough down, we are all in the same situation. I must say though, if you think black guys are the only one's who yell, steal, and beat, then there is something terribly wrong with your terminology! Although, that may have just been your experiences.

Just My 1 cent.

Hefty

It may not make sense to you, but if you were ever in a situation where you could have been killed then you are not going to take a chance. If it was a white guy doing these things then I would be cautious with white clients too. I have nothing against black people I have quite a few black friends and some of my long time clients are black men. I just won't be accepting any new ones until that one guy gets caught or he decides to go terrorize escorts in a different state. The reason I mentioned my phone conversation is Why should I accept someone who doesn't want to provide a reference. I'm not asking him for his private information like his work or any thing like that. I just wanted another provider to confirm that he was okay. I really don't think that's too much to ask for.

[QUOTE=Jasmine Smith;1144766]It may not make sense to you, but if you were ever in a situation where you could have been killed then you are not going to take a chance. If it was a white guy doing these things then I would be cautious with white clients too. I have nothing against black people I have quite a few black friends and some of my long time clients are black men. I just won't be accepting any new ones until that one guy gets caught or he decides to go terrorize escorts in a different state. The reason I mentioned my phone conversation is Why should I accept someone who doesn't want to provide a reference. I'm not asking him for his private information like his work or any thing like that. I just wanted another provider to confirm that he was okay. I really don't think that's too much to ask for.[/QUOTE]It isn't too much to ask for. But if you have different requirements for people of different races, you're not really protecting yourself at all.

[QUOTE=Jasmine Smith;1144766]It may not make sense to you, but if you were ever in a situation where you could have been killed then you are not going to take a chance. If it was a white guy doing these things then I would be cautious with white clients too. I have nothing against black people I have quite a few black friends and some of my long time clients are black men. I just won't be accepting any new ones until that one guy gets caught or he decides to go terrorize escorts in a different state. The reason I mentioned my phone conversation is Why should I accept someone who doesn't want to provide a reference. I'm not asking him for his private information like his work or any thing like that. I just wanted another provider to confirm that he was okay. I really don't think that's too much to ask for.[/QUOTE]If it is the preference of a provider to screen you for her safety (I have been screened many times including giving a work number where I could be verified or having another provider vouch for me) and you don't want to do that then pick someone else. Many providers especially high end girls and girls that actually live in the community, who would have you come to their homes for a session do this. So if you don't like the process don't ***** just move on to someone who will see you without it. Those of us who know Jasmine know she is a person of impeccable character, sweet and generous. She often screens clients and race is not a factor. Often it is a vibe on the phone; a hunch based on how the person speaks that prompts her to ask for a reference. Many of her clients are Black, including some of the most respected Senior members of this board. So if screening is not your thing just find someone who will see you without it.

I would have to support Jasmine or any provider's choice to screen. They are inviting you into their world. The men on this board or any other do not usually just see an ad make a call and invite a total stranger into their home wihtout screening. The reviews and the posted profiles of providers are a big part of the screening we do. This is a screening forum. If we want to feel safe with the ladies why ***** about them wanting to feel safe with us. If any one of us is not comfortable with the screening process of a particular lady, move on and find another. As for the racial profiling thing it is sad but true to some extent it is there and will always be. If a lady does not want to see short dicked old white guys, I will move on.

[QUOTE=Ginal;1145550]If a lady does not want to see short dicked old white guys, I will move on.[/QUOTE]Blow Job Queen called me a short dick stalker. Happy to know there is a group forming of us! LOL That was on the Eccie forim. We all sort of ganged up on her shitty preformance and she dished it back. A very funny closed thread!

Short dick guys like should get our own special rates! LOL.

Bet I don't get any replies from the ladies on that one! Jaz you reading?

But my 2cents. Its been comfirmed with 3 seperate providers that its a short stocky bald black guy! Drives a tan lexus or maxima, If a tall lean good looking studd like Will Smith showed up, I bet he'd score a date. Mayb not an OJ but still money talkes and I know for a fact some providers are seeing their regular black gents. If you are a black George Kastanzas, then sucks is you.

Thats the profile I'd be keying on. Green is green no matter who has it. Don't be a puss and not even try. Go for it man. Class drips off each other. Show some. Providers like gents, we are all like the plam reader. We read everything. From the way the door is opened, looks on the face, shit in the room, to mannerisims. Ya can size up a red kneck chick fast. A slob or a skank crack head. Its the ones that have true class, I can't get enough of, "Stormy" where are you. Tristan ATL, yall know her. One class act and a must see if she ever comes back.

I've had a few wanting verification and reffrences. The ones I see don't give them out! So I'm stuck with my reviews on the other two sites and my contributions in here that have gone way over gaining some nomad with a reff.

Like Lexiestare. You should have seen her turn on the passion when I told her I review, and I'd give hera review too only if she wanted! Yes I aske, and then do it anyway, but why not prime the pump.

I'm all over the place not making sense. This site is just that, a place to score sex. Wheather ya pay of talk yourself into it. Its not all about providers.

I'll have to give my review of the T-town smok'and hot MILF that will be my new found girl friend! Where else am I going to kiss and tell?

I don't see the big deal on screaning either its just for their safety. And if you arn't lying it won't be a big deal.

Charlsalanhead glad things worked out for you on the t-town lady.

Forrest Gump once said," these girls are like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get"

[QUOTE=Jasmine Smith;1144766]It may not make sense to you, but if you were ever in a situation where you could have been killed then you are not going to take a chance. If it was a white guy doing these things then I would be cautious with white clients too. I have nothing against black people I have quite a few black friends and some of my long time clients are black men. I just won't be accepting any new ones until that one guy gets caught or he decides to go terrorize escorts in a different state. The reason I mentioned my phone conversation is Why should I accept someone who doesn't want to provide a reference. I'm not asking him for his private information like his work or any thing like that. I just wanted another provider to confirm that he was okay. I really don't think that's too much to ask for.[/QUOTE]Of course you make perfect sense Jasmine! I feel that you have the right not to meet someone simply because the sun didn't shine that day! ? Strange responses from some as if you MUST serve them?

I do agree that Jasmine is right. Any provider has a right not to service anyone they choose not to. However WE also have the right not to see them either. I have seen several and when they ask for a reference I just say never mind. Thats my choice. We will talk about a lot of things maybe kiss and tell some. I don't want to keep a scorecard, just me.

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I occasionally see a few girls beside the metal building at 1st & 52nd, but it has been a while. Anyway, last night between rain sessions, I saw a solo BSW lurking behind the building and decided to take a closer look. First pass, she ignored me. Second time around, she looked my way. Finally, I felt like I was spending too much time in one area and almost didn't make another pass. Like any of us would, I went for pass #3 and yes, it was a charm. She priced high, and I negotiated some light maintenance for a pair of Jackson's and after some light begging, received a full service oil change for a grant and a pint of vodka I had just purchased. Probably 25, slim with light junk. 5'-5", light skin, tramp stamp of a butterfly, cute face. Said that she was staying at the Motel 8.

[QUOTE=Greek Sneek;1150840]I occasionally see a few girls beside the metal building at 1st & 52nd, but it has been a while. Anyway, last night between rain sessions, I saw a solo BSW lurking behind the building and decided to take a closer look. First pass, she ignored me. Second time around, she looked my way. Finally, I felt like I was spending too much time in one area and almost didn't make another pass. Like any of us would, I went for pass #3 and yes, it was a charm. She priced high, and I negotiated some light maintenance for a pair of Jackson's and after some light begging, received a full service oil change for a grant and a pint of vodka I had just purchased. Probably 25, slim with light junk. 5'-5", light skin, tramp stamp of a butterfly, cute face. Said that she was staying at the Motel 8.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Did she give you a name?

Haley. Also realized I misplaced this post. New format.

I was on a stroll. I noticed the ropeadopers everywhere. I wonder if they are trying to pay for all those trips with arrest and fines on the girls and mongers? I wonder if the Mayor really knows whats going on. Oh the crime is down look at all the arrest. WOW the violent criminals are the mongers for sure, NOT.

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I was riding around with my see*ck. The clock struck twelve and needed to release a rock. I found a nice little darling. She helped me out. Nice oral discussion, hahaha.

If you in the mood go near the hood. 1st was hopping. I met a newbie WSW named tracy. She was nearmcd's. Took to irondale for me to please.

P.

Other than CL are there any good sites to stumble on a non-pro. A chick that just needs a little help. The hardened business skank I just can't take anymore.

Whitney is cute. She's thick, but cute. And gives a GREAT BJ.

[QUOTE=Bigrmassage; 1137472]She was on E. Com until recently and then dropped off.

I have been in contact with her via email and she said she keeps in contact with those who she have contact info on.

Her pics are cute and her profile tempted me. Just not sure what to expect now.

Any info is appreciated.

R[/QUOTE]

Any recommendations for Cullman?

[QUOTE=Slska20;1166473]Any recommendations for Cullman?[/QUOTE]Go to Huntsville.

Hey Guys, thought I'd share some info with you all if you don't already know. Try browsing CL and BP in the Services sections and click on Household. Then click on each ad that offers 'Household cleaning' services. I have contacted most of them, in the Montgomery section as well, and most seem as if they would offer more! Suggestive comments, etc. I already know we know about the ones we already mentioned but I am giving a new one a try tomorrow evening that I found in the Birmingham section and will let yall know how it goes!

Prince

[QUOTE=Slska20;1164228]Whitney is cute. She's thick, but cute. And gives a GREAT BJ.[/QUOTE]And now her number is no good and no response to emails.

I'm going to visit Bham next week and thinking about calling Ices from E. Com up for a date? Anyone had experience with her before?

She may be out of the business.

[QUOTE=Bigrmassage;1175980]And now her number is no good and no response to emails.[/QUOTE]

I am in the process of setting up a new "throw away phone". I was already doing this because the old phone has been with me for several years. For those of you who have not invested in one of these pay as you go phones consider this. Yesterday I was in Bessemer driving past Ace Motel. Phone rang and it was a woman I have not seen in over a year. In fact, I do not think I ever saw her but one time. She stays at the Ace and I will not go there. The amazing thing is that it was not the number I had stored in my phone. She had changed phones and reprogrammed it with all her old numbers. She was outside watching traffic and prospecting. If you are giving your personal or business phone to ladies, it could bite you at some point with a call that might be hard to explain. Can you imagine explaining to SO that the call was someone wanting to sell you a quick blow job!

Play safe

[QUOTE=Ginal; 1182316]I am in the process of setting up a new "throw away phone". I was already doing this because the old phone has been with me for several years. For those of you who have not invested in one of these pay as you go phones consider this. Yesterday I was in Bessemer driving past Ace Motel. Phone rang and it was a woman I have not seen in over a year. In fact, I do not think I ever saw her but one time. She stays at the Ace and I will not go there. The amazing thing is that it was not the number I had stored in my phone. She had changed phones and reprogrammed it with all her old numbers. She was outside watching traffic and prospecting. If you are giving your personal or business phone to ladies, it could bite you at some point with a call that might be hard to explain. Can you imagine explaining to SO that the call was someone wanting to sell you a quick blow job!

Play safe[/QUOTE]How do you transition from everyone having your. Reg phone to a throw away? If you give everyone the new phone and they don't get messege that could still happen.

Absolutely correct David. I have used throw away for years. NO ONE gets personal phone

[QUOTE=Ginal;1182361]Absolutely correct David. I have used throw away for years. NO ONE gets personal phone[/QUOTE]If any of you gents out there have a personal phone that's an Android based phone, I can share some info that will eliminate the need for a burner and still give you the level of anonymity you need. Don't want to post just in case LEO tries to replicate my technique. PM me for more details.

[QUOTE=Ginal;1182361]Absolutely correct David. I have used throw away for years. NO ONE gets personal phone[/QUOTE]Someone recomended Google voice but it is telling them that it is a google number and is trying to reach the number so buying a throw away is the better route.

Every transaction pertaining to a disposable phone best be in cash for the anonymous element to be maintained. CC# used for adding minutes provide a link to the user. Just use common sense and assume that everything you buy on CC is coded. Side note for those who use Smart Phones: Smart Phones are used to track certain things via gps and with your consent-read your contract, or have your attorney read it for you. Example: Iphone Traffic flow patterns for google maps application are formulated by phones location, direction and speed whether in use or not. I am a little paranoid, and leave my Bberry elsewhere when I am dedicatedly mongering. I can imagine the pattern I have left behind.

[QUOTE=Davidonecall;1182413]Someone recomended Google voice but it is telling them that it is a google number and is trying to reach the number so buying a throw away is the better route.[/QUOTE]

Cash is the only way to transact any business in this hobby. If you do not have disposable cash you can not afford to hobby. Never let the hobby cause family and other commitments to suffer. I am a firm believer in a cash system. Seldom use credit card for any reason unless I know 100 % for sure I can pay bill completely when it arrives. Old fart and do not use debit cards ever. When I am out of cash I am broke and it is time to go home.

We have probably seen our worst week of storm damage in history. If you are alive, safe and still looking for strange pussy the you like myself were most likely not seriously impacted by the storm.

We need to help our neighbors. When Japan had earthquakes and floods all the news coming out was of neighbors helping neighbors. Here at home in Alabama the news within hours is looters and curfews. WTF Alabama! WTF USA!

These folks who have lost everything they cherished in life need help. Not all of us are in a position to go physically help in the street. We are ALL capable of making a money donation and the Red Cross among other agencies has a way of accepting donations.

If you can afford to spend $20 to $300 and up on the companionship of one of our gracious southern ladies then you can give to help our neighbors. I know our ladies need the money but think most would understand if you donate what you would have spent this week visiting them to storm efforts this one time.

[QUOTE=Ginal; 1185045]We have probably seen our worst week of storm damage in history. If you are alive, safe and still looking for strange pussy the you like myself were most likely not seriously impacted by the storm.

We need to help our neighbors. When Japan had earthquakes and floods all the news coming out was of neighbors helping neighbors. Here at home in Alabama the news within hours is looters and curfews. WTF Alabama! WTF USA!

These folks who have lost everything they cherished in life need help. Not all of us are in a position to go physically help in the street. We are ALL capable of making a money donation and the Red Cross among other agencies has a way of accepting donations.

If you can afford to spend $20 to $300 and up on the companionship of one of our gracious southern ladies then you can give to help our neighbors. I know our ladies need the money but think most would understand if you donate what you would have spent this week visiting them to storm efforts this one time. [/QUOTE]Also you can text REDCROSS to 90999 and a $10 donation will be charged to your phone bill.

[QUOTE=Ginal; 1182316]I am in the process of setting up a new "throw away phone". I was already doing this because the old phone has been with me for several years. For those of you who have not invested in one of these pay as you go phones consider this. . Can you imagine explaining to SO that the call was someone wanting to sell you a quick blow job!

Play safe[/QUOTE]I broke a Samsung phone I had for years, Loved it, so I go to e-Bay and look for the same, Well, I score the same for some $15. It came with the previous owner's Sim card. So I'm playing with it and a recording comes on to add cash for more time, SO I add $20 off my Amex. Works great and I have some odd ball area code, just like the pros.

Funny thing is it was owned by an apparent lesbian that got burned in a love triangle. I got all the texts and were just delicious. I use this for my calls. I get the standard two call system and before I get out of my car, its a quick switch of the Sim card and I never called. Hell she never called me. Just one big mistake and must have gone to the wrong Motel to pick up my buddy officer!

[QUOTE=Charlsalanhead; 1185447]I broke a Samsung phone I had for years, Loved it, so I go to e-Bay and look for the same, Well, I score the same for some $15. It came with the previous owner's Sim card. So I'm playing with it and a recording comes on to add cash for more time, SO I add $20 off my Amex. Works great and I have some odd ball area code, just like the pros.

Funny thing is it was owned by an apparent lesbian that got burned in a love triangle. I got all the texts and were just delicious. I use this for my calls. I get the standard two call system and before I get out of my car, its a quick switch of the Sim card and I never called. Hell she never called me. Just one big mistake and must have gone to the wrong Motel to pick up my buddy officer![/QUOTE]I like the switching sim card thing. I have a go phone from Wal-Mart. I don't use my CC to put minutes on, though. I buy the phone cards from Wal-Mart or target or wherever and pay cash.