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The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Vermont is open, not FS, or not that I can figure out, but well worth it. They're asking $80 for an hour. Be picky about who you choose, there are some ugly ones walking around, but some very nice ones, too.
Yes, I RTFF but it seems like no one knew for sure why the closings took place.
Maybe it was a kind of provider strike for higher prices. The know we got yellow fever from the closings and now they're jacking up the prices only jacking us --i.e. no FS.
I'm amazed at you guys. You collude to keep prices low and then wonder why the providers leave town. Don't forget that the supply and demand curves work both for those who demand a good or service, but also for those who supply or produce the good or service.
And on the supplier side of the relationship, both the capital (owners) and the labor (girls) can and will analyze the situation at any point. If they decide that the work, danger, risk, etc. of providing the service in a particular location outstrip the profit or income that they can realize, then they are free to either move to another location to do the same thing or to leave the industry altogether and use their resources in some other way.
One would hope you have all learned an important economic lesson. Of course I know this is not true for J.J.
LexLuther
[QUOTE=LexLuther]I'm amazed at you guys. You collude to keep prices low and then wonder why the providers leave town. Don't forget that the supply and demand curves work both for those who demand a good or service, but also for those who supply or produce the good or service.[/QUOTE]I see your point. There are no more hot girls left in downtown DC and only old girls trying to rip us off at M Spa and Jasmine are left. Now I have to make a trip to Sky or Angel Exotics to find a nice girl. I just wish there was something closer to work.
[QUOTE=Junky11]Yes, I RTFF but it seems like no one knew for sure why the closings took place.
Maybe it was a kind of provider strike for higher prices. The know we got yellow fever from the closings and now they're jacking up the prices only jacking us --i.e. no FS.[/QUOTE]
I'm not going to debate this, but the closings had nothing to do with prices. In fact it was indiscrete postings here that led to it.
Be patient, they're not gone for good...
[QUOTE=LexLuther]I'm amazed at you guys. You collude to keep prices low and then wonder why the providers leave town. Don't forget that the supply and demand curves work both for those who demand a good or service, but also for those who supply or produce the good or service.
And on the supplier side of the relationship, both the capital (owners) and the labor (girls) can and will analyze the situation at any point. If they decide that the work, danger, risk, etc. of providing the service in a particular location outstrip the profit or income that they can realize, then they are free to either move to another location to do the same thing or to leave the industry altogether and use their resources in some other way.
One would hope you have all learned an important economic lesson. Of course I know this is not true for J.J.
LexLuther[/QUOTE]
Lex is correct IMHO! You had a great thing going and and some of you listened to the "pontificating" by the sorts "Sleazebum"..Don't bring more than $.6 under any circumstances!!
Being a tight ass for an additional .2 or .4 is ridiculous. If you can't afford the product don't buy it or save till you got the cash!!! I used to try to get away with the absolute minimum tip at our local AMP..It works for a while but if you become a regular and get known as a "cheap charlie" service will eventually suffer...tip at or above the norm and you will be treated accordingly.
You had a great thing going there in DC...so many AMPs so little time.
[QUOTE=Jake Jj 1492]I'm not going to debate this, but the closings had nothing to do with prices. In fact it was indiscrete postings here that led to it.
Be patient, they're not gone for good...[/QUOTE]Oh thank the Maker*....[QUOTE=LexLuther]And on the supplier side of the relationship, both the capital (owners) and the labor (girls) can and will analyze the situation at any point. If they decide that the work, danger, risk, etc. of providing the service in a particular location outstrip the profit or income that they can realize, then they are free to either move to another location to do the same thing or to leave the industry altogether and use their resources in some other way.[/QUOTE]When these two gentlemen talk, I tend to listen.
LL
[QUOTE=Asianflu]Lex is correct IMHO! You had a great thing going and and some of you listened to the "pontificating" by the sorts "Sleasebum"..Don't bring more than $.6 under any circumstances!!QUOTE]
And, again, NEVER pay above the current going rate!!!
Prices and/or my being a tightwad had NOTHING to do with our current situation.
BTW - NEVER, NEVER, NEVER pay more than the current going rate which is still $160.
JJ
[QUOTE=Bradley1]I see your point. There are no more hot girls left in downtown DC and only old girls trying to rip us off at M Spa and Jasmine are left. Now I have to make a trip to Sky or Angel Exotics to find a nice girl. I just wish there was something closer to work.[/QUOTE]No offense,but this is not being discreet.LE aren't the only ones against our hobby.All they have to do is put all the bits and pieces together and pass it on.
but the link did not take. I think you cannot post the word '********.' There is a DC blog called 'this too shall pass' it's url is howcanyoujustwalkaway.com.
Not long ago the author spent a day photographing customers going in and out of Jazmin Spa. She posted them on her blog and bascially said this is sex slavery.
I always scout the area before going in, I recommend the same.
New spa in DC, on Pennsylvania. Will have to go check it out. If somebody has already been, please post--no details per say, but maybe just if its worth the trip and is legit--versus a sting operation.
TIA
Lex, LL, and Dr. Bomb are on the mark. Good advice to heed. Let's not get what's left closed down.
XS
[QUOTE=Drunker Irish]New spa in DC, on Pennsylvania. Will have to go check it out. If somebody has already been, please post--no details per say, but maybe just if its worth the trip and is legit--versus a sting operation.
TIA[/QUOTE]There have already been at least two posts on this one.
Search the forum (RTFF).
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]
BTW - NEVER, NEVER, NEVER pay more than the current going rate which is still $160.
JJ[/QUOTE]
The Economists have proven to be wrong time and time again and now big time. How can we believe anything they say, with their fancy computer models and buyouts. I agree with Sleasebum.
[QUOTE=Sashimi]The Economists have proven to be wrong time and time again and now big time. How can we believe anything they say, with their fancy computer models and buyouts. I agree with Sleasebum.[/QUOTE]The proof is in the pudding or the pussy I think. Who were the hottest girls right before the AMPs disappeared? Who were the hottest girls two or three years ago? There's a big disparity.
[QUOTE=Rogoh]There have already been at least two posts on this one.
Search the forum (RTFF).[/QUOTE]Ah, I found one post, buried amongst the long winded arguing.
As far as RFTT You can FO. I'ved posted a lot more than others, and under my last screen name (which was messed up somehow) I was a senior member.
Your comment isn't helpful for encouraging people posting, its sure as hell isn't incentive for me to share information anymore.
Also, if you try searching "orange'" it just points you to a thread with hundreds of postings--it doesn't take you to the direct post. I'm not sure you've ever tried the search function, or anybody else for that matter because it doesn't work worth crap.
$160--maybe in DC, but in Nova and Md. it is now $180. Hard to find in DC these days, too. Also, if you are a regular, it is good business in many ways to slip the manager $20 from time to time. You get points--sometimes extra time, sometimes extra love.
In most boards you earn your respect from the other posters by sharing information. I think we need to rethink this practice on this board. Too many hostile eyes may be reading.
As new spas come on the scene, especially if they turn out to be good, I think it best to keep them under the radar. Just saying......
I too miss the days of Sharon and Maya at Downtown. And later Sun. Anyway, it's a bit tough to RTFF across all the regions. For those who travel lots, which city do you think is the best? (bargain, availability, quality)
My choice might be Dallas.
[QUOTE=MrSunnyHills]I too miss the days of Sharon and Maya at Downtown. And later Sun. Anyway, it's a bit tough to RTFF across all the regions. For those who travel lots, which city do you think is the best? (bargain, availability, quality)
My choice might be Dallas.[/QUOTE]I have not played in Dallas, but have always had fun in Seattle.
[QUOTE=MrSunnyHills]I too miss the days of Sharon and Maya at Downtown. And later Sun. Anyway, it's a bit tough to RTFF across all the regions. For those who travel lots, which city do you think is the best? (bargain, availability, quality)
My choice might be Dallas.[/QUOTE]
It's hard to beat Honolulu.
LexLuther
[QUOTE=MrSunnyHills]I...For those who travel lots, which city do you think is the best? (bargain, availability, quality)
My choice might be Dallas.[/QUOTE]
For Stateside, I would go with either SF or Dallas, but if you really want to travel, BKK is without peer.
[QUOTE=Any Mouse]For Stateside, I would go with either SF or Dallas, but if you really want to travel, BKK is without peer.[/QUOTE]
I have had some luck in Dallas. The raunchy strip clubs on Harry Hines are fun and there are a couple of AMPs up there.
I just got back from LA, the local erotic market news (forgot the name, but it is free everywhere) lists a lot of AMPs by part of the city. They also have "hostess clubs", which from the intel are not what they used to be.
I didn't partake, but I did some research prior to going.
I travel a bit and I think it's LA and then NY. In NY you get the full hour and TS and the girls are a lot hotter than what's been in DC the past couple years. It costs $200. In LA there is no TS since they operate out of apartments but you get DFK and BBBJ and multiple pops. It costs $250.
Dallas is real easy if you fly Southwest into Love Field. Take a right turn out the of airport on Mockingbird Lane, then right on Harry Hines, and down a mile or 2 you'll see plenty of SC's and AMPs. There are several AMPs off a side street (Storey Lane?) along HH as well.
[QUOTE=Any Mouse]For Stateside, I would go with either SF or Dallas, but if you really want to travel, BKK is without peer.[/QUOTE]I have to agree on Bangkok. I have fond memories of that city. Manila might take second place for me. Some wild, hardcore times in BKK, but Manila in my experience was the ultimate GFE time.
I haven't adventured in SF or Dallas, but recently returned from Montreal and had an amazing time there. Extremely friendly and welcoming fellow patrons also.
[QUOTE=Baltimonger]Dallas is real easy if you fly Southwest into Love Field. Take a right turn out the of airport on Mockingbird Lane, then right on Harry Hines, and down a mile or 2 you'll see plenty of SC's and AMPs. There are several AMPs off a side street (Storey Lane?) along HH as well.[/QUOTE]
Those AMPs are 40-50 yr old hags and the SW scenes died out. But my news is at least 6 years old. Is your info more updated?
[QUOTE=Bradley1]I travel a bit and I think it's LA and then NY. In NY you get the full hour and TS and the girls are a lot hotter than what's been in DC the past couple years. It costs $200. In LA there is no TS since they operate out of apartments but you get DFK and BBBJ and multiple pops. It costs $250.[/QUOTE]
TS in NY? Hmmmm, I must have hit the wrong ones when I was there.
Interesting comments... tipping the manager is a good idea; visiting Pink @ Sun in the past (some might remember), new girls did TS for her... $20 paid off very well and the word spread.
In the last 6 years, it has gone from a bio on every provider within an AMP to not disclosing our favorite AMP because of the risk. Where ever you go, the key point is to become a regular, and switch if they don't deliver after 3 times... the same services are out there, and they are feeling the economy plus the loss of advertising.
[QUOTE=Ginger Man]$160--maybe in DC, but in Nova and Md. it is now $180. Hard to find in DC these days, too. Also, if you are a regular, it is good business in many ways to slip the manager $20 from time to time. You get points--sometimes extra time, sometimes extra love.
In most boards you earn your respect from the other posters by sharing information. I think we need to rethink this practice on this board. Too many hostile eyes may be reading.
As new spas come on the scene, especially if they turn out to be good, I think it best to keep them under the radar. Just saying......[/QUOTE]
Long time reader first time poster. Yes, I RTFF. I'm mainly in Nova but occasionally head up to DC for expanded services. About 4 years now. First off, I'd like to thank everyone for the info and updates. Many times I would think of posting but it was nothing more than what has already been expressed/reported on.
Been awhile since in DC but, second, my report. Went to the Spa on M. Older Ladies except one or two. Got an older lady (easily 40+) with C/D bolt ons, short hair, smoky laugh, and very upbeat personality. Very nice. Her name C. Or was and I think I might have seen her before in other places in DC and Baltimore. No tattoos. Yes, I have been here before.
TS good, services fine/standard. All in all, 7-8. Maybe. I say maybe because for $$ total my hands not allowed to wander/touch anything up or down, nor, obviously, any DATY. Is this the new standard in DC? Or is it that older women have run the gambit and don't try to please customers or even seem to relax for simple things. Just wondering if others have the same, should I expect this, is it just this lady, just this place, did I TOFTT, not a regular, etc.
I'd appreciate any info, PM or otherwise, to ensure future understanding. Given my experience, I understand we all have off days and I'm cool with that. Just want to make sure I'm not supporting any new unwanted rule.
Thanks. In addition, please feel free to comment on post. I will hold back if this is still too 'open' for current conditions.
[QUOTE=Sleeping Bag]Those AMPs are 40-50 yr old hags and the SW scenes died out. But my news is at least 6 years old. Is your info more updated?[/QUOTE]That's what I'm afraid the DC scene is turning into. That's what happens when the girls chase the money.
Last night around 10:00
Vermont was closed. There is a sign for "Vermont Therapy" and the neon "open" sign is in the window, but the door was locked. the hours on the sign said 10-10, so maybe I got there too late. But the signage made it look pretty legit, not like the old days of just "open".
1829 was definitely open. The ladies were older as someone else said, but very spirited and accommodating. Many signs on the walls all the way up stairs, as if they aren't ashamed of themselves.
I notice they are advertising in the sports pages again.
N
[QUOTE=Nice 499]I notice they are advertising in the sports pages again.
N[/QUOTE]I hope nothing bad happens with them. I know 14K tried to defy the police when they tried to be nice and it ended up with the girls getting arrested.
[QUOTE=Bseeks]Last night around 10:00
Vermont was closed. There is a sign for "Vermont Therapy" and the neon "open" sign is in the window, but the door was locked. the hours on the sign said 10-10, so maybe I got there too late. But the signage made it look pretty legit, not like the old days of just "open".
They close around ten. Not like it used to be, but it can be fun given the limitations.
I’M really grateful to posters on this forum. Before a business trip to DC this summer, I RTFF’d and was able to set up two memorable sessions with Candy and Rose at 14K on the first try. For my current trip, it was hard to see what, if anything, was worth patronizing among all the doom and gloom over Black Weds. The AMP on PA ave SE seemed like the best bet, and I can testify after a fantastic session on Monday that the DC scene can still roar. With continuous anal attention during the TS, she had my member straining for attention. After CBJ she came hard during DATY, then got cozy in CG. I pounded her very tight kitty during DG. I still shiver at my pop in her mouth because this girl really knows how to suck cock. All this for $. 6, although I tipped it higher. TS-9; Looks-8; Service-10. I’ll tell you her name after my second helping later this week.
BTW if you come to SF, I can direct you to some scrumptious kitty about a half hour south of downtown. Our suburban AMPs are still very comfortable with no LE presence I can detect.
[QUOTE=Ginger Man][QUOTE=Bseeks]Last night around 10:00
Vermont was closed. There is a sign for "Vermont Therapy" and the neon "open" sign is in the window, but the door was locked. the hours on the sign said 10-10, so maybe I got there too late. But the signage made it look pretty legit, not like the old days of just "open".
They close around ten. Not like it used to be, but it can be fun given the limitations.[/QUOTE]It was open when I went there last Thurssday, but that was in the afternoon.
[QUOTE=Canick] With continuous anal attention during the TS, she had my member straining for attention. [/QUOTE]
Interesting first post. Anyway. This is interesting. I don't live in DC but I travel to this fine city quite often. In all my spa visits (DC), I have never had anything - at all - in a table shower except for a very nice wash. Perhaps the wash may be fairly thorough in the right areas, but just a wash. I read reports about AR and whatever this poster got, but I have never seen it. I think it would be a great service though. I would happily go just for the TS and have the event happen there (whatever that event might be), but obviously that would be difficult for the spa, because there is only one TS room and there is no door to lock, but anyway.
Another observation about the TS. I wish they would put down a towel on the table. A halfhearted dump of water on the vinyl doesn't really do it for me. Granted they would then have to wash that towel, but at least my skin would be somewhat further removed from one of your guys's skin who was there last.
The type of post we DO NOT NEED! Thanks for the info, but now if you want to go again, you had better be quick since the likelihood of them being open when you return is diminished because of your careless posting.
The explicit detail you provide to satisfy yourself is NOT helpful to us here who would like for them to remain in business for a while. Please be much more discrete when posting, and maybe we will all have a chance.
stay safe.
AM
[QUOTE=Canick]I’M really grateful to posters on this forum. Before a business trip to DC this summer, I RTFF’d and was able to set up two memorable sessions with Candy and Rose at 14K on the first try. For my current trip, it was hard to see what, if anything, was worth patronizing among all the doom and gloom over Black Weds. The AMP on PA ave SE seemed like the best bet, and I can testify after a fantastic session on Monday that the DC scene can still roar. With continuous anal attention during the TS, she had my member straining for attention. After CBJ she came hard during DATY, then got cozy in CG. I pounded her very tight kitty during DG. I still shiver at my pop in her mouth because this girl really knows how to suck cock. All this for $. 6, although I tipped it higher. TS-9; Looks-8; Service-10. I’ll tell you her name after my second helping later this week.
BTW if you come to SF, I can direct you to some scrumptious kitty about a half hour south of downtown. Our suburban AMPs are still very comfortable with no LE presence I can detect.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Canick]I’M really grateful to posters on this forum. Before a business trip to DC this summer, I RTFF’d and was able to set up two memorable sessions with Candy and Rose at 14K on the first try. For my current trip, it was hard to see what, if anything, was worth patronizing among all the doom and gloom over Black Weds. The AMP on PA ave SE seemed like the best bet, and I can testify after a fantastic session on Monday that the DC scene can still roar. With continuous anal attention during the TS, she had my member straining for attention. After CBJ she came hard during DATY, then got cozy in CG. I pounded her very tight kitty during DG. I still shiver at my pop in her mouth because this girl really knows how to suck cock. All this for $. 6, although I tipped it higher. TS-9; Looks-8; Service-10. I’ll tell you her name after my second helping later this week.
BTW if you come to SF, I can direct you to some scrumptious kitty about a half hour south of downtown. Our suburban AMPs are still very comfortable with no LE presence I can detect.[/QUOTE]Weird first post.
Most people make their first post in their hometown.
If this person really RTFF,why would he be so explicit?
I have a bad vibe about this one
[QUOTE=Any Mouse]The type of post we DO NOT NEED! Thanks for the info, but now if you want to go again, you had better be quick since the likelihood of them being open when you return is diminished because of your careless posting.
The explicit detail you provide to satisfy yourself is NOT helpful to us here who would like for them to remain in business for a while. Please be much more discrete when posting, and maybe we will all have a chance.
stay safe.
AM[/QUOTE]My second helping of Yo-Yo on PA ave this afternoon was even better than the first. I was going to tell you all about it but was told that it would be foolish. In my first post, I wasn’t providing detail to satisfy myself, but rather exchanging information with forum readers to help them find the same quality of experience. It strikes me as much more self-serving for Anymouse to withhold that information, so that he can continue to enjoy the best AMPs while other forum readers are left to bounce around with tired hags at the AMPs that never were worth a damn, before or after Black Weds. We need to be very discrete about the physical locations, but LE and everyone else already knows what can and does go on in these places. Even more to the point, guys need to know which specific women at which particular AMPs are currently providing the services they want. I got just that information by RTFF this summer, and was returning that favor in my post. If the forum administrator thought my post was an asset to LE, then he would not have posted it. Any security issues need to be taken up with the administrator because he is the only person in a position to curb reckless information.