Once again you Missed the Point
[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1316429]I moved this discussion from the now worthless Postive Escort Reviews section:
The point you seem to be missing is that OriginalSin did not just post that she was GFE; he went on to state what services she provided and implied that the experience TO HIM was at the GFE level. Although I know it is hard to believe but some men actually enjoy the company of women and not just getting off or one specific act performed in a specific way. OriginalSin apparently falls into that category since what he received was an experience that made him think of Sara as a girlfriend. I do get that for many here a girl is not GFE unless she provides a BBBJ. However, OriginalSin was clear in his post the services that were provided and that HE still felt the experience rose to the level of GFE. Seems to me if that is the case, then Sara understands that there is more to being a woman and making a man feel like a man than just one act performed in a certain way.
Kudos Sara and to OriginalSin, thanks for your informative post. Let's move on, shall we.[/QUOTE]If everyone creates their own version of what GFE is, then GFE means nothing. Yes, OS went to a detailed list and explained what he did with Sara, but just because he left very happy, it was not a GFE experience by what many of us on the board consider GFE. Now, we can move on.
Most know you miss it all
[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1316919]Those here who actually know me, know I miss very little including the desire to prolong a discussion that was largely meaningless in the first place. Your definition of GFE is very sterile and relies on a particular act performed in a specific way. OriginalSin's definition is based on how being with a woman makes him feel. I didn't miss anything other than that some men here only are capable of looking at women in one dimension, while others have evolved and it seems those less evolved are a little jealous.
NOW, we can move on.[/QUOTE]You say you evolved because you think every thing you do is right and everyone else is wrong. You have a theory that you visit a P4P lady and and treat her like you love her and want to marry as you have often said, but you only do this to make yourself feel good and by treating a lady like that, it helps you get off. It has nothing to do with the particular lady you are with. In P4P, we all have different ideas of what gets us to our goals. Just because we don't think the way you do, does not mean we disrespect women. It just means we view P4P different than you do.
You and OS are muddying up the waters of what GFE means. It is not my definition of GFE, it is the generally accepted view of this community, except for a few oddballs that don't want to go along with the majority. It is not about being jealous, it is about being annoyed that some guys can't get with the program and want to mess up the review system for all of us. It is perfectly ok for you to have your own ideas about what you want to do with a P4P lady, but when you say others are less evloved than you, you are missing the point once again, as you often do.
I have moved on and am done with this discussion with you. Now, can you try to stop insulting us that don't share you views on P4P?
VS and ET Are Right About GFE
Great points made by VS and ET. A sensual experience is not something that can be quantified with a slide rule. The computer geeks and the bean counters have screwed up virtually aspect of life in today's society. Now I guess they want to devise a mathematical formula or strict legalistic definitions to apply to sensuality and eroticism.
Montana
[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1317005]We sure have had our differences in the past. However your GFE post was completely on the money, a GFE experience is an emotional experience it is well outside a repeatable act such as the formula for 440 stainless steel or the formula for bread that quantifies the ingredients so as to insure the same result every time. A few years back many girls would perform BBBJ but would not KISS, this for most girls was a "Personal" act reserved for their personal sex life with their BF or GF. Then maybe 5 years or so ago some girls started kissing and "making out" which included " Deep French kissing" and some allowed dining at the Y which was another game changer. I'll leave the judgement on that to the individual to decide if that was a move in the right direction.
Personally I have enjoyed the pleasures of sex in many cultures in many areas of the globe and have had incredible, intense, experiences that did not include BBBJ or intercourse and were far more intense than most personal girlfriends I have had in America. So frankly the term really indicates as you have said the "Total experience" including the atmosphere (Is it candles and low light or bad breath+ hygiene or dirty laundry in a dirty apt or motel room?). Big difference no matter if their GFE or not.
So gents if you believe BBBJ is an absolute for a GFE experience I feel sorry for you as your missing out on some incredible experiences, as many girls do it better with a condom on than than basically uninterested, average, rushing provider who does it raw, in Europe many girls put the condom in their mouth and install it and their technique is so good you don't even know it's there. Some don't even put their mouth on it they do it with their tongue in their cheek on the outside of the condom.
So if your an Engineer I suppose a strict rule is important to you as everything must be quantified as an absolute, if your not lay back and enjoy and get the most out of the encounter that you can and then do it again.
There are so many so many great ladies that advertise and have been reviewed on here surely you can find a few that really ring your bell and you can define your own GFE, nobody has to tell me what it is when I feel it and so will you, it's that weak in the knees feeling and that urge to get back as soon as possible, that feeling so many of you have posted about, THAT iS GFE-VS[/QUOTE]
This arguement is getting old
[QUOTE=Otwist; 1318242]It is not about bean counting, it is just about having a way to write a review that could be understood by everyone without having to list the graphic details. The definition of GFE I put out there of good attitude, kissing, BBBJ, DATY and CFS is just a basic minimum list of what a good girlfriend would do for you. I compiled the list from reading many other GFE definitions I had read elsewhere, so I don't consider it my definition, but rather a majority view of what GFE is.
It does not mean I have to have all of these things every time I go out. I never do DATY with a provider, but others do and like it, so it is included in the list. It does not mean I have closed my mind off to other experiences and am missing something by posting a basic list of GFE criteria. I recently wrote a positive review of Merlot Parker. Other than a good attitude, Merlot does not do anything GFE, but what she does do was certainly a good time.
When it comes to sex, we all have things we like and that is what we gravitate to. It is foolish to say that we are just butterflies being carried on the breeze and we just should take what ever comes our without any direction on our part. Some guys like to walk in the door and jump on and get off and walk out the door with a word, some guys like to have oranges thrown at them while they are tied up, others like to be kicked repeatedly in the balls, some like to do DATY for 90 percent of the time they paid for to show the provider they are good lovers. There are many ways to get off and all of them are perfectly fine between two consenting adults.
I generally like to visit mature ladies that I find attractive that are easy to talk to. I enjoy ladies that can give a good BBBJ. Sometimes the BJ is so good that the lady finishes things up that way, and other times the BJ makes me want to move on to CFS. I consider myself to have a flexible attitude and can deviate from that plan from time to time, but this works for me. I do understand that not everybody does things this way. As I said it is all good when it comes to sex, so do what you want that makes you happy. I will say that a brief BBBJ is better than any CBJ to me. The C in CBJ stands for covered, but to me, it means crappy. There is almost nothing that turns me off more than a CBJ. It completely ruins the experience. In years past, I have ladies tell me that you won't be able to tell the difference when I do the CBJ and I can tell you all that I knew the difference. So, I make an effort to avoid the CBJ ladies because I know before hand that I will not enjoy their services.
Now that we apparently don't have a defintion of GFE anymore, the reviews will mean nothing when someone says they had GFE from a provider because everyone will have their own view of what GFE is. We, as a community have somewhat agreed not to post as many graphic details, so where do we go from here? I am listening.[/QUOTE]This argument is getting old as if you really look at the gist of this hobby you will realize that YMMV from provider to provider / it's a gamble I for one have never agreed to post as a community nor will I. We are all individuals with our own style of writing and describing our experiences that in and of it's self is what makes this forum what it is. The monger should have enough common sense to weed out the good and the bad while realizing this hobby is a game and your mileage may vary. Everyone should feel free to post as they see fit.
I MUST agree with you Mr Talent & VS
[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1316919]Those here who actually know me, know I miss very little including the desire to prolong a discussion that was largely meaningless in the first place. Your definition of GFE is very sterile and relies on a particular act performed in a specific way. OriginalSin's definition is based on how being with a woman makes him feel. I didn't miss anything other than that some men here only are capable of looking at women in one dimension, while others have evolved and it seems those less evolved are a little jealous.
NOW, we can move on.[/QUOTE]For me. It's falling in love for an hour. Or 3. Walking out with a spring in the step & a song in the heart. (not to forget the relief that the fee absolves the lack of flowers, a fancy dinner, calling every day & jewelry.)
Rules? We don't need no steenking rules!
Orlando area bars to meet older women? Anyone used SLS, lavalife, adultfriendfinder?
Newbie here. Hope these questions fit in the General Reports forum. If not I apologize and will not repeat.
-I am an older guy, over 50. I was wondering if you any of you guys or ladies know of any bars anywhere in the area where a guy could talk to and maybe ask out older women ie. 40, 45, 50+. Bars besides the Blue Martini.
-All the bars around UCF / Waterford Lakes where I live seem to have a younger, college age crowd. I imagine downtown is the same. Not sure about other areas but I am willing to travel. Older, single women must go somewhere when they go out for a drink on ladies night. Not sure where.
-Related question: have any of you older folks had any luck meeting ladies- Not Pros- on swingerlifestyle, lavalife, or adultfriendfinder dot com? Not sure people are still using swinger websites or are using Craigslist or Facebook or others to hook up.
-How about the the Cypress Cove nude resort?
All of these websites and the resort seem to cater to mostly couples I think, but am not sure.
Thanks
What is the purpose of this thread?
We already have threads for escort reports, positive escort reports, negative escort reports, rip off reports, streetwalker reports, backpage advertiser reports and craigslist advertiser reports. What exactly is the purpose of a general reports thread? I am in favor of changing the title of this thread to more accurately reflect its true purpose. We should rename it the jokes, semantics debate and black men's penises report thread.
All in favor say aye.
Where to pick up women (not girls)
[QUOTE=NovaGuyswm; 1323486]Newbie here. Hope these questions fit in the General Reports forum. If not I apologize and will not repeat.
-I am an older guy, over 50. I was wondering if you any of you guys or ladies know of any bars anywhere in the area where a guy could talk to and maybe ask out older women ie. 40, 45, 50+. Bars besides the Blue Martini.
-All the bars around UCF / Waterford Lakes where I live seem to have a younger, college age crowd. I imagine downtown is the same. Not sure about other areas but I am willing to travel. Older, single women must go somewhere when they go out for a drink on ladies night. Not sure where.
-Related question: have any of you older folks had any luck meeting ladies- Not Pros- on swingerlifestyle, lavalife, or adultfriendfinder dot com? Not sure people are still using swinger websites or are using Craigslist or Facebook or others to hook up.
-How about the the Cypress Cove nude resort?
All of these websites and the resort seem to cater to mostly couples I think, but am not sure.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Try the bars in the Restaurant Row area (Sand Lake Road). Lots of well to do divorcees. I-Drive bars may turn up vacationing women looking to play.
Craigslist can turn up a gem every once in a while, but you have to weed through a lot of duds and crazies. Some of the main line dating sites can be good to find casual sex, but you may have to work at it.
