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[QUOTE=Seephor;2045651]The other day I was sitting at a bar with a buddy and overheard a MILF talking to her friend about men who pay for sex being suckers. How do you guys feel about it? I can personally say that at times I do when I don't get what I paid for or have been ripped off... Other than that the way I see it is just cutting to the chase skipping the "dates" song and dance for the end result. For me at least, it's not that I can't date women, it's just that I don't want to. I fucking don't want to have to make conversation with her. Most women I've dealt with lack any intelligence for me to have any interest conversing with them. I fucking don't give a fuck what her fat girlfriend said, did or does. Nor do I care about what stores she likes to shop at. Paying for it keeps me from having to listen to them basically is the way I see it.[/QUOTE]Of course we're suckers, but it's in all aspects of dealing with women. The true suckers are the ones that think that when they get married they will have absolute domain over the pussy, and they actually get waaaayy less sex than those of us who "pay for it", and they pay a lot more. I spent $20 Saturday night and got a great blowjob. I'll bet, at that exact same time, thousands of guys were spending $50-300 on an evening with a woman and got NOTHING. I guess the endgame is that I'm not going to marry this girl, and the guys dating are going to be lucky enough to find true love that will cost $2000 for an engagement ring, $15000 for a wedding, $400,000 for a house, $100,000 per kid and most everything they make the rest of their lives once the divorce lawyers are through with them. Oh, poor me, I'll never find true love. I guess it's a burden I'll just have to live with.

The true suckers are the assholes who let a woman convince them that "paying for it" is a bad thing. Every guy pays for sex. Those of us on this board have figured out that paying the girl directly is a hell of a lot cheaper and a hell of a lot more sensible than paying the waiter, bartender, cab driver, jewelry store clerk, real estate agent or divorce lawyer. Shit, taking a girl to a movie is $40 these days, and that's hardly a pussy soaking experience. Raise your hand if you've had good sex with a decent looking SW for $40 and gone home happy.

Oh, so you didn't get what you paid for from a streetwalker? Welcome to the club, but you got off light. We've all gotten a lot less from a real date and it cost us a lot more money. I have a friend who is on 20 years with the same wife and barely looks at her, and I'm telling you if you saw her walking down the street late at night you would pull over for this woman and hope she was sucking dick, and he doesn't give a shit and she's sharing his bed. We're three months into the new year, and I've already fucked two new girls, and he hasn't had new pussy in two decades.

So, who's the real sucker? All of us, that's who. Pussy costs money, and if you lose with a SW you lose a lot less than you lose in a divorce. I've had experiences where it wasn't exactly what I wanted, but I still got my dick sucked most of the time. Divorce rates are 55%, and I've never had to pay a hooker alimony or give her my house while I slept on a friend's couch. I have ex-girlfriends who have called me for rides, food, money and who knows what else, even when they've got new boyfriends. I had an ex who blew me so I would take her grocery shopping for food that she took home to her new loser husband. Which one of us is the real sucker? Both of us, that's who, because we're men. It's just how the game works. It's okay to be a sucker, just don't be a fool.

[QUOTE=Seephor;2045651]The other day I was sitting at a bar with a buddy and overheard a MILF talking to her friend about men who pay for sex being suckers. How do you guys feel about it? I can personally say that at times I do when I don't get what I paid for or have been ripped off... Other than that the way I see it is just cutting to the chase skipping the "dates" song and dance for the end result. For me at least, it's not that I can't date women, it's just that I don't want to. I fucking don't want to have to make conversation with her. Most women I've dealt with lack any intelligence for me to have any interest conversing with them. I fucking don't give a fuck what her fat girlfriend said, did or does. Nor do I care about what stores she likes to shop at. Paying for it keeps me from having to listen to them basically is the way I see it.[/QUOTE]Well, they are partly right. But for the most part, we don't "pay for sex." We pay to have minimal interaction with the woman before and after. To not get drawn into her drama and her moods and her expectations for our behavior.

Put more crudely, 'we pay them to leave.'.

[QUOTE=SuckerBill;2051791]Of course we're suckers, but it's in all aspects of dealing with women. The true suckers are the ones that think that when they get married they will have absolute domain over the pussy, and they actually get waaaayy less sex than those of us who "pay for it", and they pay a lot more. I spent $20 Saturday night and got a great blowjob. I'll bet, at that exact same time, thousands of guys were spending $50-300 on an evening with a woman and got NOTHING. I guess the endgame is that I'm not going to marry this girl, and the guys dating are going to be lucky enough to find true love that will cost $2000 for an engagement ring, $15000 for a wedding, $400,000 for a house, $100,000 per kid and most everything they make the rest of their lives once the divorce lawyers are through with them. Oh, poor me, I'll never find true love. I guess it's a burden I'll just have to live with.

The true suckers are the assholes who let a woman convince them that "paying for it" is a bad thing. Every guy pays for sex. Those of us on this board have figured out that paying the girl directly is a hell of a lot cheaper and a hell of a lot more sensible than paying the waiter, bartender, cab driver, jewelry store clerk, real estate agent or divorce lawyer. Shit, taking a girl to a movie is $40 these days, and that's hardly a pussy soaking experience. Raise your hand if you've had good sex with a decent looking SW for $40 and gone home happy.

Oh, so you didn't get what you paid for from a streetwalker? Welcome to the club, but you got off light. We've all gotten a lot less from a real date and it cost us a lot more money. I have a friend who is on 20 years with the same wife and barely looks at her, and I'm telling you if you saw her walking down the street late at night you would pull over for this woman and hope she was sucking dick, and he doesn't give a shit and she's sharing his bed. We're three months into the new year, and I've already fucked two new girls, and he hasn't had new pussy in two decades.

So, who's the real sucker? All of us, that's who. Pussy costs money, and if you lose with a SW you lose a lot less than you lose in a divorce. I've had experiences where it wasn't exactly what I wanted, but I still got my dick sucked most of the time. Divorce rates are 55%, and I've never had to pay a hooker alimony or give her my house while I slept on a friend's couch. I have ex-girlfriends who have called me for rides, food, money and who knows what else, even when they've got new boyfriends. I had an ex who blew me so I would take her grocery shopping for food that she took home to her new loser husband. Which one of us is the real sucker? Both of us, that's who, because we're men. It's just how the game works. It's okay to be a sucker, just don't be a fool.[/QUOTE]Try explaining that to any guy that's never "paid" and they will never get it. I wish someone had clued me in years earlier.

We are NOT suckers.

Suckers are those who spent fortunes for women, getting stabbed in the back later, and getting used and abused in the name of a 'relationship'.

Does this sound familiar?

Yeah, that is the 98% of male populations' disastrous destiny in the USA, especially in California or other big cities!

I never been in a relationship with women and 100 % proud and confident of myself.

I was not born to be used and abused by women in the name of a relationship.

Modern day relationships are nothing but a robbery for guys.

Face it, there is nothing for us in a marriage or a relationship.
And if I have to choose between the life of a married man and a celibate, I'll choose to be a celibate, living the life of solitude and peace without sex and without women all together.
Other than an occasional release, there is no good things in a relationship.

[QUOTE=Seephor;2045651]The other day I was sitting at a bar with a buddy and overheard a MILF talking to her friend about men who pay for sex being suckers. How do you guys feel about it? I can personally say that at times I do when I don't get what I paid for or have been ripped off... Other than that the way I see it is just cutting to the chase skipping the "dates" song and dance for the end result. For me at least, it's not that I can't date women, it's just that I don't want to. I fucking don't want to have to make conversation with her. Most women I've dealt with lack any intelligence for me to have any interest conversing with them. I fucking don't give a fuck what her fat girlfriend said, did or does. Nor do I care about what stores she likes to shop at. Paying for it keeps me from having to listen to them basically is the way I see it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ddddan218;2052090]We are NOT suckers.

Suckers are those who spent fortunes for women, getting stabbed in the back later, and getting used and abused in the name of a 'relationship'.

Does this sound familiar?

Yeah, that is the 98% of male populations' disastrous destiny in the USA, especially in California or other big cities!

I never been in a relationship with women and 100 % proud and confident of myself.

I was not born to be used and abused by women in the name of a relationship.

Modern day relationships are nothing but a robbery for guys.

Face it, there is nothing for us in a marriage or a relationship.
And if I have to choose between the life of a married man and a celibate, I'll choose to be a celibate, living the life of solitude and peace without sex and without women all together.
Other than an occasional release, there is no good things in a relationship.[/QUOTE]Yes it gets old being in a relationship where the woman needs all kinds of help. They definitely get more than they give. I've cut emotional ties from all women this year. Spend my money at strip clubs, massage parlors, tijuana street walkers, ex-dancers otc. Score so far as of April 1st. FS with 4 Tijuana sws (one four times), 2 AMP techs, 2 strip club dancers in VIP, and 2 ex-dancers in motels. No emotional stress and all the women were happy. No brainer.

[QUOTE=Ddddan218;2052090]
Other than an occasional release, there is no good things in a relationship.[/QUOTE]You got that right!!

[QUOTE=Ddddan218;2052090]We are NOT suckers.

Suckers are those who spent fortunes for women, getting stabbed in the back later, and getting used and abused in the name of a 'relationship'.

Does this sound familiar?

Yeah, that is the 98% of male populations' disastrous destiny in the USA, especially in California or other big cities!

I never been in a relationship with women and 100 % proud and confident of myself.

I was not born to be used and abused by women in the name of a relationship.

Modern day relationships are nothing but a robbery for guys.

Face it, there is nothing for us in a marriage or a relationship.
And if I have to choose between the life of a married man and a celibate, I'll choose to be a celibate, living the life of solitude and peace without sex and without women all together.
Other than an occasional release, there is no good things in a relationship.[/QUOTE]There are 2 things. Kids. It's usually best to have 2 parents in the home. The other is the perceived notion of unlimited awesome pussy presumably from the woman you found so hot you had to marry her. This typically diminishes over time for a variety of reasons. No denying the financial cost is high. In my case I got the kid as my reward for paying that price. And no regrets there.

But for now I seriously doubt I could go back to anything less than my absolute right to choose who, when and where I can have the best possible sex with.

OK, kids makes sense if you want to have one.

However, I have zero desire to have one so that does not motivate me to get married.

Also unlimited awesome pussy is, IMHO, fantasy. WOMEN in 21th century use sex as weapon to get what they want even in marriage.

Also initial magic disappears within few years.

So I'll stay single, being free.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2052658]There are 2 things. Kids. It's usually best to have 2 parents in the home. The other is the perceived notion of unlimited awesome pussy presumably from the woman you found so hot you had to marry her. This typically diminishes over time for a variety of reasons. No denying the financial cost is high. In my case I got the kid as my reward for paying that price. And no regrets there.

But for now I seriously doubt I could go back to anything less than my absolute right to choose who, when and where I can have the best possible sex with.[/QUOTE]

I used to be much more of a DATY guy when I was younger but I find myself wanting to just hit it pump and dump style and move on. This was until I recently hooked up with a 7/10 blonde non-pro. I can't even believe it myself but I look forward to DATY with her. She has the sweetest poontang and very clean / groomed the way I like. I've been hooking up with her almost weekly just to get a taste of her. After which we do CFS but I'm trying to work her to go BB with me. Never went BBFS with a working girl but if I were to make that one exception, it would be with this one. Not sure how much or what it would take but this is one of my goals. Hey, even this game can have goals, makes things interesting.

This is some bleak ish gentlemen. I am struggling with the path that I will take. I am a good looking, successful young buck in his prime and I have a slew of opportunities abound. What else would you expect? I'm a ClassAct.

After seeing first hand experiences of friends & loved ones; ups, downs, divorce, all types of garbage and even some happy endings. (No pun), I'd still like to believe that there is some hope. Is there some hope? You guys really challenge my belief system. I'm not religious but I feel like I stand at a crossroads. Most men are too pussy, lame or just boring to tell me the truth because I think the reality is, they don't take what they want and they live by fear. I don't believe that I need to follow the average expectation of marriage, kids, etc. Etc. The problem is I don't have any mentors or role models because the media demonizes men who don't nest. I really enjoy women. I just don't think I'll ever be happy with 1 piece...for ever? Ugh.

Maybe I'm the one with fear? I know the life I'd like to lead but with all my friends turning twat, becoming boring, never wanting to have any fun... I might just have to be the leader of the new school... And that scares me.

Any words of advice? Monger 4 eva? If you could look at your younger self and tell him the wisdom you have acquired today, what would it look like? Free free to PM.

#ByThePowerOfUSASG.

[QUOTE=ClassAct;2058203]This is some bleak ish gentlemen. I am struggling with the path that I will take. I am a good looking, successful young buck in his prime and I have a slew of opportunities abound. What else would you expect? I'm a ClassAct.

After seeing first hand experiences of friends & loved ones; ups, downs, divorce, all types of garbage and even some happy endings. (No pun), I'd still like to believe that there is some hope. Is there some hope? You guys really challenge my belief system. I'm not religious but I feel like I stand at a crossroads. Most men are too pussy, lame or just boring to tell me the truth because I think the reality is, they don't take what they want and they live by fear. I don't believe that I need to follow the average expectation of marriage, kids, etc. Etc. The problem is I don't have any mentors or role models because the media demonizes men who don't nest. I really enjoy women. I just don't think I'll ever be happy with 1 piece...for ever? Ugh.

Maybe I'm the one with fear? I know the life I'd like to lead but with all my friends turning twat, becoming boring, never wanting to have any fun... I might just have to be the leader of the new school... And that scares me.

Any words of advice? Monger 4 eva? If you could look at your younger self and tell him the wisdom you have acquired today, what would it look like? Free free to PM.

#ByThePowerOfUSASG.[/QUOTE]If you don't want kids. No problem. If you do, find the smartest, best looking girl you can to impregnate. Do not marry her. But be a real dad and take care of your fatherly responsibilities. The only possible issue is if either of the parents need to relocate due to work or family in the future. BTW. I have been married twice and have an adult daughter. I only stayed married thinking it was best for the kid and was worried about custody in a divorce. In the end I got full custody. Most women today do NOT marry their baby daddy.

Preliminary data indicate that 40.7 percent of all 2012 births were out-of-wedlock, and there are vast differences among racial and ethnic groups. Among non-Hispanic blacks, the figure is highest, at 72.2 percent; for American Indians/Alaska Natives, it’s 66.9 percent; 53.5 percent for Hispanics; 29.4 percent for non-Hispanic whites; and a mere 17.1 percent for Asians/Pacific Islanders.

So unless your intended is white or asian you shouldn't have a problem with this strategy. Even then the numbers are pretty high.

[QUOTE=ClassAct;2058203]This is some bleak ish gentlemen. I am struggling with the path that I will take. I am a good looking, successful young buck in his prime and I have a slew of opportunities abound. What else would you expect? I'm a ClassAct.

After seeing first hand experiences of friends & loved ones; ups, downs, divorce, all types of garbage and even some happy endings. (No pun), I'd still like to believe that there is some hope. Is there some hope? You guys really challenge my belief system. I'm not religious but I feel like I stand at a crossroads. Most men are too pussy, lame or just boring to tell me the truth because I think the reality is, they don't take what they want and they live by fear. I don't believe that I need to follow the average expectation of marriage, kids, etc. Etc. The problem is I don't have any mentors or role models because the media demonizes men who don't nest. I really enjoy women. I just don't think I'll ever be happy with 1 piece...for ever? Ugh.

Maybe I'm the one with fear? I know the life I'd like to lead but with all my friends turning twat, becoming boring, never wanting to have any fun... I might just have to be the leader of the new school... And that scares me.

Any words of advice? Monger 4 eva? If you could look at your younger self and tell him the wisdom you have acquired today, what would it look like? Free free to PM.

#ByThePowerOfUSASG.[/QUOTE]It's not just the media that demonizes single men, it's women, and it's how they pressure us into settling down and bearing with the misery for the sake of appearing normal. I wish I could tell my younger self that I should have been peeling off twenties for some good sucky-sucky instead of crying into my empty beer bottles because I couldn't find love. Love comes from within, but a good blowjob will put you in a mood so good that you will be able to accomplish so much more in life. In Japan, they have blowjob bars, and the line in the morning before work is like the line at any American Starbuck's in the morning before work. Japan is in much better shape, so I'm going to have to claim victory for the morning blowjob vs the morning candy / milkshake disguised as a cup of coffee.

The good news is that marriage is declining. More and more younger guys are figuring out that marriage sucks and it's only good for the woman. Men get fucked over in the divorce and women live better than you on your own money and in your house. Most animals fuck and run, and we are animals. That doesn't mean act like an asshole, but it also doesn't mean you should see your parents and friends and every asshole family at the supermarket and movie theater and they're all fucking miserable but you get this idiotic idea that when you get married it will be different for you because you're special. My friend keeps telling me that married men live longer. No, it just feels like it's longer because the misery drags on forever. It's way better to have 40 great years than 90 horrible years.

You are not the leader of the new school, just its newest enrolled student. Welcome, Grasshopper.

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[QUOTE=Deerom;2059313]I was near downtown and stopped into a burger king to take a leak and get a coke. While I was waiting for the mans toilet to become available the women's door opened and out walked this cute, thin, light skinned black chick, wearing tight jeans and absolutely no top on! She had tiny little bandages covering her nipples and that was all. As I stared at her walking by me I realized I knew who she was. An interesting black chick who advertises on some internet sites for nuru massages in LA. I've been wanting to partake of her services but have not had the chance yet. BTW, no one else seemed to notice that she was out in public with no top on, as if it is something that happens every day around there.

[URL]http://classifieds.myredbook.com/sensuousbeauty1/photos/419981[/URL][/QUOTE]Was her winter Bush showing?

[QUOTE=Deerom;2059313]I was near downtown and stopped into a burger king to take a leak and get a coke. While I was waiting for the mans toilet to become available the women's door opened and out walked this cute, thin, light skinned black chick, wearing tight jeans and absolutely no top on! She had tiny little bandages covering her nipples and that was all. As I stared at her walking by me I realized I knew who she was. An interesting black chick who advertises on some internet sites for nuru massages in LA. I've been wanting to partake of her services but have not had the chance yet. BTW, no one else seemed to notice that she was out in public with no top on, as if it is something that happens every day around there.

[URL]http://classifieds.myredbook.com/sensuousbeauty1/photos/419981[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow! I would like to explore that jungle. Anyone seen her?